UK General Election Livestream - 35 Days Until the Election.
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Alastair Campbell talking about his mental health helped me many years ago. I'm eternally grateful to him as I'm still here today because of his advice. It's great to see him and Rory doing so well with the podcast too I love this duo.
👋 Hello to Rory's mum.
Very impressed by his chiming clock, as well. Top bloke altogether.
Saw her last night ;)
Please keep up the hard work with these streams. Honestly the pair of you are doing amazing work, keep it up!
I’m visiting England from the US and visited London. I was excited to see Alistair and Rory poster for the podcast in the tunnel. Thoroughly enjoy the conversation.
Excellent as ever! Thanks again for giving us such great insights. Keep well and keep going xx
I’ve got a great slogan for Rishi Sunak “ Get Exit Done” 😁😅🤣
GENIUS! REXIT!
I prefer "Vote out to help out."
That works too 😅
I’m 75 and there is no way I’m voting 4:19 Tory. I never have. I’m going to try to vote tactically.
A while ago we were promised a special on Universal Basic Income. Can we discuss economic policies like UBI, wealth tax (see Gary's Economics) etc? The main parties refuse to talk about anything of note economy-wise. So can we do it for them?
I worked out if they got rid of the DWP and the state pension, every person over 18 could receive £650 pcm. it's not far off £1k UBI! which is recommended. It's achievable, but i think we'd need rent controls.
does your calculation take the admin costs of DWP and pension into account? one of the oft forgotten benefits of the UBI of how the admin cost is so minimal, so there’s more money to go
into paying people.
Whilst I think a UBI could work, i really wish minimum income guarantee (MIG) was a policy discussed more often, as it gives all the benefits of UBI without as many risks to inflation.
@@rebekkahill4664 then you effectively have a 100% marginal tax rate. UBI can be combined with a flat rate of tax to basically remove all the nonsense in our current income tax system
I’ve just found the entire election night BBC coverage on UA-cam from 1997. Amazing to watch it all moment by moment. Hopefully a repeat performance next month! It’s so interesting how then conservatives then constantly talk about out how disunity has been their downfall. No lessons learned it seems!
I love the podcast! Just a small point. A good teacher is always listening! I student’s misconceptions are identified and addressed through questioning and listening to responses. Maybe I’m being overly sensitive about it, but 'At least minimally listening' does not suffice. Keep up the good work.
These summaries of thoughts on how the election is going are great. I love to hear the thoughts and stories of past government ministers and figures of interest surrounding how what went on in the past, and in regards with who it went on with, fits in with the politics of today. It's such a good mix of history and personalities. Gives you that little insight into UK politics that we need, in order to get a sense of perspective, humour and insight into where we as the audience fit politically. Great podcast. Love it.
Not all over 65s vote Tory - please don't lump us all into the same camp
I am rather more concerned by the boomers who do vote for sewage in rivers than any number of forrins, dishington is rather too friendly with American think tanks for my taste
Statistically, your age group does, though. Though, that is starting to change now.
This 65 year never has, never will. The youngest of six, none of my working class siblings or our parents ever did either. I voted Remain too. Divide and Rule, Divide and Rule. Set us all against each other, meanwhile the true culprits operate with impunity.
Love you guys. Your experience and knowledge of all things political is almost second to none!
Clowns out. Vote out to help out. Vote Labour give them a chance we can always vote them out. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Yes, give Labour a chance but we can't vote them out at the next election or any other election if their majority is too big.
On Rory’s point on Wes Streeting and using spare capacity in the private sector to help the public waiting list in health, I am an Orthopaedic Surgeon in Queensland, Australia . I work full time public which is 4 days per week plus 1 in 6 on call and weekends. We have been using my day off per week for the last two years to perform surgery on public patients in the private sector and in two years we have cut my public waiting list from around 540 days to 250 days wait for a joint replacement. Still not where we were pre covid at 180 days approx but dramatically improved. This is a great idea and works well.
Here on Malta the MRI, CT and PET scan machines are operating 24/7 and it’s not unusual to have an 10pm scan booked.
The difference between the politicians and the drs/priests/teachers is that the latter understand what they're talking about and are trying to find multiple ways to express the same ideas.
Meanwhile the former are just reading lines off a script.
AC is obviously right when he says that in his day, you didn’t kick people out of the party, although he weighs his words carefully. I think it’s a really worrying thing, kicking out first Corbyn and now Diane Abbot. Also, deeply disloyal against people who have given their entire life to the Labour Party
And short sighted as so many Labour voters share their values
Both Corbyn and Abbott are serial troublemakers who displayed disloyalty towards Labour leaders for all of their careers.If you can't pick who you want in your party then there is no point being the party leader. The mainstream media is always seeking new angles to cover but this campaign cannot pivot on one or chronically unintelligent MPs when the future of the nation is at stake. Serious debate on the NHS and the economy is being stiffled in favour of someone found guilty of anti semitism. Does the British media want a Labour party free of antisemitism or does it prefer to indulge the failed Corbynista hacks.
Theyre also not even close to being the first or last left winger thsts been blocked for opposing genocide. The party is a mess
What about Ken Livingstone not being allowed to stand as Labour candidate for London mayor then?
@@alphabetaxenonzzzcat Oh! Ken! How could I forget Ken?
Well questiontime will definitely be one to miss. I've never been a massive fan since they expanded the panel in the 90s/00s which always felt like there was too little time for each contributor. It was the game to get your soundbite out as there was little challenge or discourse.
Morgan and Farage? Battle of the egos to kick off their GE coverage. Hopefully they'll cancel each other out, but it seems unlikely.
Lizz Truss is my MP too - if you want to get her out vote Labour.
VERY GOOD-Rory
Memez
“Stability is the Change” Exactly what business wants - let alone the rest of us.
Question Time equals, shouty/talk over everybody time!!
Certainly not watching that one! Why BBC is Farage & Piece Morgan on?
Another entertaining & enjoyable listen Alistair & Rory 👌
Thanks guys.
No, Blair didn’t kick out the Left. Kinnock did it, after 4 consecutive defeats.
Labour should let Dianne Abbot stand. People don’t want MORE party machine politics. They want LESS! More authenticity, more local accountability is what’s needed. Barring her also suggests the Labour leadership is so insecure that it can’t handle the odd voice of dissent inside the party. Shame on them.
I don't get it. If the agreement was for Diane Abbott to retire after having the whip restored, or even if there wasn't, why would anyone in Labour (unnamed source) say she wasn't allowed to stand, only for Starmer to deny it? None of it adds up. Sounds like someone is causing mischief to undermine Starmer's campaign.
It will be the usual suspects.
@dondoodat Mischief!
@@TrevorBarre Usual suspects = the left and the right!
It's definitely a stitch up job and it absolutely REEKS of sour grapes from Starmer's enemies. Moronic - finally in a position where the left wing might be able to have some influence over government policy, however limited, but because they don't have total power over the party they want to undermine the current administration and hand the Tories a few more seats. It's so short sighted
Starmer is the one blocking her candidacy. The disciplinary measures ended in December. She was only given back the whip if she didnt run again.
39 I think you will find the Bishop of Dover is not a fan of either Farage or the current government's immigration policy
As a Norwegian interested in world politics and especially US/Uk - these podcasts are extremely addictive. Well done guys!
@Rory - do you think Tories after this election will shift even further to the right and thereby make the unelectable for another 2 more elections? Before maybe coming to their senses and go for the center/right ground?
What about Jess Phillips' letter to Sunak about Liz Truss appearing on extreme right platform of the guy who made rape jokes about Jess Phillips?
@@SassyTheSasquatch96 if you actually read what I said, I said "made rape jokes". But sure, carry on perpetuating that talking point.
And the issue here is that a former Prime Minister is legitimizing his platform by appearing on it.
Im sorry but i replied to your comment, I gave context to the situation pointing out he is a scumbag. If anything you are perpetuating it by incorrectly stating the events, Yes is stupid that a former pm is on his platform. These two things aren't contradictions.
@@AGSSSH So by correcting you still agreeing his a scumwad im perpetuating the talking point even though im replying to your original comment bringing attention to the matter? I agree its stupid that a former pm is on that space nor do i think itsa good thing, Not everyone is either with you or against you sometimes people just want to add context to better understand a situation but sure just try to misrepresent my point.
Who cares about that pearl clutcher?
Yougov are the pollster with the best results and have Labour 27% ahead. The next most reliable one is IPSOS with a 21% lead. Vote Tactically, as LibDems are 2nd in 80 Tory seats
The £11k charges for roaming is actually criminal - networks should not be allowed to charge such obscene rates.
A Brexit benefit for sure! 😂
@@belbrighton6479 You know obscene roaming rates have been a thing long before Brexit lol
@@Sumonebody The issue is when inside the EU then charges inside the EU were gone. However, I think this gentleman was elsewhere. I was once on vacation in Africa when a young Australian accidently used their Aussie phone for data and ended up with AUD 2k bill. Thankfully, their provider waived the charges.
@@SumonebodyNot any longer in the EU. But you’ve got to be a bit of an idiot not to set a cap on your monthly spend and not to use WiFi. Unless it was on purpose and he thought no one would notice.
@@___Rick___😊
I loved the closing comments, it struck me as genuine affection between these two wonderful plonkers.
While apparently courting the 65 plus group they're the ones with the longest memories ow how things used to be and therefore the understanding of what a terrible state of decay and relative decline we're in...
I’m in my mid 70’s the government / s over the last 8 years have been the worst in my lifetime by a vast margin.
But the 65 plus class is the cause of many of today's problems from egging on Thatcherite privatisation of utilities to constant demands for tax cuts at the expense of essential public services.The meonly# category is reaping the aftermath of collapsing medical services,bad train services and potholes. Milking the pension system with the triple lock is the ultimate slap in the face of the British nation.
I'm in my late 70s. Actually, standards have been declining since the early 1980s. Has been downhill all the way since then. Labour's brief interlude served only to place a restraint on the overall trajectory, which is the Road to Hell. Once Labour were ousted, the forces of negative evolution set in again with redoubled force. Fast forward to today…
There's only one question worth asking right now: how come the English are so stupid, so dozy, so completely addled and brainf***ed, that even now they are unable to perceive the broader direction of history? Yes, I do mean Rory and Alastair. A wonderful podcast, an addictive listen, much worthy comment and valuable content, an infallible guide on how to vote in the best lot this time round… as long as you don't look beyond the next 10 years… and as long as you still live spiritually within the invisible bounds of the present world-dominating Anglosphere.
Oh, and by the way, for those of us who live in Tuvalu, Outer Mars and Australia, but who have broken free from the ethnoconstraints of our local heredity, HOW ABOUT TELLING US CHANNEL 4 STILL ONLY BROADCASTS TO BRITAIN???
THANKYOU!
Oh wow, they’re doing live streams now. Excellent stuff. 🙂
Question for both of you - My local MP (Justin Tomlinson) has been radio silent since the election has been announced. What’s the chances he is going to be moved from here to a safer seat?
On National Service, I suspect the military don't want people who don't want to be there. One option to help with recruitment is to offer a tax incentive for those who serve 15 years with an honourable discharge. Say 1% off income tax for life for earnings below national mean wage. If would have to be fixed to a function of the national salary profile to prevent inflation devaluing it. That would encourage people to apply, allowing the military to select the best from those standing up.
My 74 year old father thinks people over 65 shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Are you rushing down from Scotland on foot, Rory?
Plans v What Actually Happens....as a famous sportsman once said, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".
I dont care about creed or people colour how they identify, shim, him, her, they, them, us or donkey, what we need is talent in politics and we seem to be lacking......
Respect both of you. For me, I am done in terms of this election. I like countless many since Covid have watched my world begin to collapse. My rent has increased by 50% (£650 to £900), Electricity (£100), Council Tax, travel grocery shopping, child care of my granddaughter, and Water have also risen. It is now at the point, where despite my wife and daughter working along with me and doing good jobs, we cannot afford to live a life, with the essential bills taking all our salary. I have been made redundant, with me and the team having had our work go overseas to a cheaper location.
Both Kier and Rishi are the same as far as I am concern, with no real choice. I will probably vote Labour simply because Rishi is only concentrating on the elderly, but Kier is no better really and I know that this Labour will do nothing for people like myself and my family. This isn't a real democracy of choice. I anticipate it will be the lowest turnout in this election.
Fortunately I am not financially struggling, and I truly am upset by your struggles. I know I am one of the lucky ones, I don't take that for granted, and I know that a lot of the country is really struggling. And it frustrates me so much that Labour are basically copying Tory ideas, that it seems as if, since the tories have moved right, Labour have moved right too, to become the new centre right. So the traditional party who champions working people and works to improve their standard of living has abandoned us.
I unfortunetly have decided to use my vote as a protest and will be voting Green. It will probably make no difference, but I'm hoping for some luck where enough people reject Labour and vote for other parties that it forces them to re-analyse what they truly stand for.
Astonishing! I too followed your path, but here in Australia! Here, it is now said that our Labor governments have to be seen as Centre Right, the only true leftwing party we have left being the Greens.
The difference? We have proportional representation, and as a result, we've been able to elect significant numbers of both Greens and "Teal" Independents to our Parliaments. They have already made huge differences across a significant range of policy areas.
So the moral for you in the UK? Get rid of first-past-the-post and institute proportional representation plus compulsory voting. The latter will save you cartloads of wasted time and money trying to get out the vote. Our donkey vote is negligible in its effect by comparison with your non-voters. Who can best get you this change? Looks like Labour with LibDems snapping at their heels…?
Do I understand you need to travel from Creith to London after this? On what transport? That sounds so tiring!
Like Rory’s facial expressions 😬
Very shocking about the Evening Standard.
My wife & I have read and talk about Trollope, but I suppose that's an American thing 😁
Rory, being ex military what's your opinion on the Tories desperate National Service policy?
RS had suggested policy of National Service when he was in parliamentarian, though disappointed it was being included by Sunak as a campaign strategy for election purposes (he explained reasoning in recent podcast). RS spoke on one of this week’s regular podcast or Q&A episode… heard on Apple podcast so unsure which one (episodes are coming thick and fast and meshing together (happy to have increased coverage and not complaining lol) - not all are uploaded to UA-cam in timely manner unless live. 🤷🏻♀️
@@royjames4224 judging by the books Rory has written, I’d say he’s quietly very pro NS albeit service of a non-military nature.
Just for context Rory, it wasn’t ’Irish Travellers’ that Diane referenced, it was ‘Jewish people’ ‘Irish people’ and ‘Travellers’ - terms matter. Her article said: ‘In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus’ and ‘Racism takes many forms and it is completely undeniable that Jewish people have suffered its monstrous effects, as have Irish people, Travellers and many others.’
A slip of the tongue, I’m sure but, particularly, the terms ‘Irish’ and Traveller’ come with complex and multifaceted identities are not simply interchangeable.
We need some kind of standardisation for how politicians get their policy ideas and promises out during an election campaign. The fact that downright lies are still permitted to be circulated in a bid to trash the opposition is ridiculous at this point.
I live in Scotland and I love our health service.
I live in Scotland and have been waiting over 2 years for hip replacement and I am on the urgent list.
@@lizdocherty3067 I hope labour give the English NHS more money which will mean Scotland can also. 2 years is far too long for an urgent opp.
Whilst Scotland get more mo next if England got more money, the SG wouldn't necessarily spend it on the NHS. In percentage terms, SG spending g on NHS has been lagging behind En gland's for a few years (settlement with junior doctors included).
@@ancientbriton7295 indeed and they should invest more if possible. Our NHS is still publicly owned and doing better than England which is positive.
The tax burden is higher than it has been for 50 years. Nearly half of all govt spending is on the NHS. Nobody can be asking for higher tax to support for health.
They've got a week till nominations close, and I think Labour's put a candidate in every constituency with a good few to spare. I don't even know if there's a way for a nominated candidate to withdraw! Mind you, she could always claim to be the Tory Candidate for the new Constituency I'm in, Southgate and Wood Green. The odd thing here is that Bambos Charoulambos is the Labour Candidate, and he's been suspended for even longer - and we're still none the wiser why.
Labour Party very strong in 2024
The view from sunny honiton was of helicopters wizzing around
The money that’s currently going into the NHS is astonishing and throwing more money at an organization that’s running more like its own fiefdom isn’t going to solve its horrendous self imposed problems .
What solutions do you propose?
What is self imposed? NhS waiting list in 2010 was 2.2m , pre covid 4.4m and now nearly 8m. Who’s been in charge during that period?
You spelt the conservative party wrong. It's not spelt NHS.
The wedge issue of the moment is surely Dianna Abbot. For obvious reasons. The tories will say that NEC pulls the strings and the LP dances to there tune.
That’s its job isn’t it? It’s the Party’s governing body. During Corbyn’s time, his loyalists were in the majority, and Labour danced to his tune.
I asked Alexa if Keir Starmer was a socialist, no but he’s a monarchist
I wonder when the BBC is going to finally let go of the nationally-unimportant Diane Abbott story and concentrate on the issues that the public care about?
We need something to amuse and make us smile now the Man Utd soap opera has lost a few bubbles 😊
Why bottom left of Alister Campbell screen does it tells us the AC (Air Conditioning) is on?
Initials
On Kier and Dianne Abbot, I disagree with it being framed as people on the left of the party already being annoyed etc. For me it's about integrity and honesty. The narrative around the whole matter from Labour/Kier just doesn't really add up and leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
Can I make a suggestion for Rory? As this is a political podcast for, dare I say, political nerds, I would not think it necessary to interject every time Alastair is half way through a sentence to provide "context for listeners". I'm sure most people listening are aware of the Diane Abbott situation, and if they aren't I think Alastair saying "Diane Abbott becomes the story" might push them into finding out for themselves.
I know what you mean, but I kind of like his politics teacher tone as he runs through the details that you should know if you've done your homework, but there's probably someone at the back of the class that hasn't done the reading that was set.
Impossible to avoid the Diane Abbot thing if you watch Newsnight. They are so obsessed with it, you would think that there were no important policy or strategic issues in this election. I've stopped watching.
Inauthentic is something I can say about Starmer as well. I don’t always agree with Stewart but I know he is authentic. I love Alistair so I can’t be objective about him even though I will always disagree with him on Iraq.
Given the value of TV in Elections, why not interview Jonathan Munroe , Dana strong or Carolyn McCall?
This election seems to be a perfect storm for independents to get in to Parliament.
The Labour leadership looks awful and out of touch with the people, especially on Gaza, and they're only slightly better than the Tories!
Instead, local candidates who are not identifying with either party are looking much more appealing.
Rory! Give Alistair a chance!
Is this what you reference at 20 mins in? 😂😂😂
I'm not watching live but I'm 17 minutes in with comments coming up continuously and you haven't interacted with live viewers once.
I enjoy the podcast but what is the point of you streaming live?
25 minutes in and Campbell technotwittishness is the problem. Fair enough 😂
I hope the UK election doesn’t mean we get no international analysis from AC and RS for a month.
There are separate podcasts for more 'normal' TRIP topics, the schedule is just slightly changed because of GE.
Not sure if they will all be uploaded to UA-cam. Best to get it on a podcast app.
It’s interesting to hear the take on the left side of labour here. Let’s be clear, much of the reason for that faction to have failed is less to do with the politicians and much more to do with the media. It is the media, with power resting on conservatives that really decides who wins elections, referenda, etc.
Rory wearing his conservative shirt!
God Rory doesn’t need to interrupt and to give such laborious context all the time. Make your point when the other person has finished.
Just because you don’t agree with people’s politics doesn’t mean you should kick them out. That’s is mcarthysm
Labour should take a quick and firm stance on Abbotgate and move on. Either she stays or goes I don't care. But quick and firm.
bring back Andrew Neil and his programme 'This Week'
Definitely don't make pension tax emept. We need more taxes from rich people not working to enable us to cut taxes on those who are working to ensure work pays. Only effective way to grow the economy. Get rid of NI - put it on tax instead. No impact on those on low pensions. No impact on workers.
£12,570 tax free state pension doesn’t make anyone rich. If you’ve got a private or final-salary pension on top of this, it will still be taxed at 20%, 40% or 45% depending on how much the pension is worth.
@@___Rick___ Even full state pension doesn't hit 12 570. If someone is getting paid more than that without working each year - they should pay at LEAST as much tax as those who are working for that money and contributing to our economy. When they accumulated that money tax wasn't paid on it. It is only fair they do in the end if they are earning enough to enter thresholds.
@@dddddbbb if the tax threshold doesn’t increase for the next 3 years, the RPI increases on the state pension will take it over the tax threshold.
@@___Rick___ Why would those not working for their money get a hand out over those that are?
@@dddddbbb You say not working but they've worked for the last 40-50 years. I'm not suggesting that all pensions shouldn't be taxed, only the state pension. I can't see the point in paying a state pension out and then clawing it back in taxes.
God i hope they increase spending on the nhs. I dont care how much it raises taxes, I'll take it if it means i can actually get the health care i need.
Same
The health care you need? This is somehow about you? Going on to half over all govt spending is on the NHS already.
I think it’s ‘inside baseball’ (not ‘indoor’)
Rishi suffers from being a NPC
He is a car park?
Six weeks run up then election. (Bliss) from America.
On Labour (and the other parties) on TikTok, from what I've seen it's been a decent mix of serious down the camera stuff and memes. Both trying to achieve slightly different things.
I'm 21, so maybe am just the target demographic, but I think if a Party didn't even try to operate in that space that would be a mark against them. It wouldn't be accepted for a major party to boycott TV or the newspapers, so why should modern social media be any different.
Karim Khan would like a word
Nearly half way through & im guessing there’s going to be nothing about Faiza Shaheen & the Labour NEC removing candidates who have been critical of Israel. Pfffff
5 weeks to go & Starmer is trying his hardest to throw away the poll lead. 🤦
The treatment of Dr. Faiza Shaheen is an absolute disgrace that you glossed over quite quickly.
I just cant understand these Tory pledges with National service going to cost 2.billion and the pledge for pensioners going to cost another 2.5 billion, but they not going to give Junior Drs the pay increase
National Service is £3.5Bn , with 775,000 18yo, that’s £451k per teenager!
Do not let Michael Gove join the Labour party. After all the damage he's done, everywhere he's been shoehorned in, any party that accepts his overtures is not to be trusted at all. Brazen leaving his gravy train so early, too.
Imagine having a clock bigger than your TV
Jealous because you've got a small clock?
@@thunderslug1066 a little, yeah
@@David-Poli-ij8pg me too, but my small hands make the one wrapped round my wrist look bigger
This whole election reminds me of a film our choices Labour or conservative the film obviously being Dumb and Dumber if there is a god we really need his help at the moment
who would Rory Stewart like as the new tory leader?
Why does Labour struggle so much in Scotland?
Because SNPhas conned the people of Scotland mot labour voters moved to support Snp
Is it too late for Rory to stand for Labour?
It's going to happen sooner or later.
Im sure the NEC would happily by-pass another local parties democratic right to vote for their own candidate, not stopped them so far.
I asked myself the same question. And it seems he’s much happier in himself which is good to see.
I'm sure Starmer's Labour would welcomehimwith open arms.Another right winger to add to the ranks!
Rory is a Tory, even if you like some of his attitudes.
I subtly get the sense that he might be a liberal...
Campbell is wrong about Farage, attempting to ignore, insult or belittle him is exactly how Brexit happened. You need to engage him seriously and dismantle his argument so he can't use the 'establishment' line.
Campbell is suggesting making the exact same mistake again.
You make some excellent points. Not sure though you can dismantle his arguments with logic and facts, his support is more of a vibes thing.
@@mauromatos3124 He is using polls to back up his points while his opponents just call him racist. Why couldn't they use data to try and dismantle his arguments instead? I suppose because they know they have zero charisma to back it up, but it doesn't change the fact that he makes an argument that he can back up and they don't.
@@adam7802he regularly gets asked what should be done and all of his answers are either legally impossible or entirely unrealistic but that doesn’t matter to the people who are convinced by him. No one else on the planet could get as much air time as he does having already bowed out of being an MP. He’s already established that America means more to him yet we’re meant to take him seriously ?
Yes, and I watched that Farage speech on BBC, they cut him off before Reeves began hers. And whether it was 'inflammatory' or not, it wasn't for the BBC newsreader to give her opinion - newsreaders are there to read the news (duh) and link items.
I don't support Farage or the Reform Party, but didn't think it was inflammatory, nor did I agree with cutting him off. It would be dangerous to try to silence Farage, and the Reform Party, on democracy grounds.
Plus, migration is a very real issue, that many see as important. To dismiss a Farage speech that includes migration as 'inflammatory' is not the right way forward.
@@karmaascendant3936 Can you give an example of something that is impossible or unrealistic that he's said?
There's a halo effect to Alistair...😇
So in ten years time i have to swap sides and vote Tory........? How about no.
not one word on how unfair and horrible the labour has treated Diane Abbott; from people who talk about how damaging politics has been to their mental health.
Even from Rory who’s usually fair and objective.
Tut tut.
Somewhat agree with you OC - not surprising has become a thing for people who say they actually care all of a sudden or clickbait for Momentum
3 WEF candidates to select between is no choice at all.
An eloquent and comparatively rational promotion of poor calibre politics. That realisation will dawn later.
there's nothing in Rory's mug
Any more labour MPs being banned this evening?
Does Rory really not understand the psychology of politics atm?! Trump is another example of a technique that sends the message. Quality is obviously not the issue. They talk lies, deceit… 3 time repetition is what trump uses. Thats what lands the message and ensure its learnt. Apparently.