For whatever reason, it seems like they want to remove humans from the Sonic universe entirely. Which I don't think they realize they CAN'T because Robotnik is a human and Shadow's backstory VERY thoroughly involves humans.
Infinite could’ve really fucked with Shadow by making himself look like Maria with the Phantom Ruby and forcing Shadow to fight him, while looking like her
@@Electrix21yeah well keep in mind that would have been too dark for a kids game probably, and in character all this would do is piss shadow off even more, he’d kill infinite next time he saw him no hesitation. What would have been better is a hallucination of Maria that berates him, asking him why wasn’t he strong enough to save her, how much she hates him for failing her, add in a Gerald hallucination telling Shadow how disappointed he is in him, how the prototype was a better fit for the title of ultimate life form because at least it tried to fulfill its purpose, and then they tell him in the end he was just TOO WEAK… too weak repeats causing shadow to realize it’s all a fake, remoralizing him and making him even more determined to stop infinite. Infinite realizing the jig is up tries to throw phantoms of Shadow’s past at him like the bio lizard and black doom at him in a boss rush but shadow comes out on top.
@@drbuni I think the chorus in this version is the best of all the versions. The added guitar rift/synth in the back are a nice addition and the repetition of the first two lines really adds to the build up imo.
probably not, considering the song marks a change in his character and not his original character. it plays when he fights the biolizard, which is also the point where he steps up and becomes a hero
Shadow: This is where Omega was destroyed. But there's no sign of him here... Rouge: Sure seems that way, Probably because it never happend! Shadow:What!? Omega:Affirmative I have not known to d- d- de- Defeat! Shadow:Omega!?!? Omega: I'm not defeated I am not weak I Am Not Weak! I AM NOT WEAK! I AM NOT WEAK! I 4M N0T W34K I A# N0/ W3^K!!!... Shadow: Ngh... What is this...? My head...
I remember I first heard that line with the JP audio, and just hearing Omega go: Watashi wa yowakunai. Watashi wa yowakunai. Watashi wa yowakunai. Was so funny to me at the time.
My top 5 songs in this game: 5. Rhythm and Balance (Eggman's Facility) 4. Fading World (Imperial Tower) 3. Supporting Me (Virtual Reality) 2. Nowhere to Run (Prison Hall) 1. Moonlight Battlefield (Aqua Road)
Rolling swaths of green hills begin to spin and swirl faster than even his own supersonic speed would justify, first the shape and then the color of his surroundings distorted and morphed into strange polygonal objects. For a moment, he felt as if he was in one of those insane "special stages" Sonic had told him about in his early years. But those polygons soon began transforming once more, into objects far more disturbing, and familar. The green grass became metallic flooring, the blue sky became empty space, and the Eggman robots became the hostile faces of GUN soldiers. For the first time in many years, he felt his heart quicken and his chest tighten out of fear and anxiety. But why? These GUN soldiers posed no threat to him, only to the girl who hand he firmly clutched as they ran down the hallw- Maria! Maria is with him. Suddenly, any confusion he had about his surroundings had to be cast aside. He pulled the girl along and ran as fast as he could with her following closely behind, the thunderous stomps of the boots of the soldiers gaining on them. They came to a door that lead to the ARK observatory. If he could get them in there, they'd be safe, at least for a while. He smashed his hand against the control panel, the door slide open and they dashed inside. He looked behind him to see the door close, but when he turned back, he found himself inside the Ark's Emerald Shrine, with the enormous, thick-hided, rasping reptile snarling back at him from above. He looked to his right, but Maria was gone. But he could still hear her voice in his ears. "It's okay, Shadow. I'm still here. Cheering you on. Supporting You."
Not a bad remix. It keeps it's original sound intact, but like half the soundtrack in this game it feels more flat due to the electronic instruments. The again.......this might be better handled than the rest of the soundtrack. Still good but it's a good song so it's hard to destroy
I honestly think the composer which i forgot the name of did a smart choise. Many people didn't like his new direction, though i think that he tried to do something like, 2017's pop, so basically it's all instrumented with synths and stuff, which was really popular back then, which leads me to belive Sonic Forces was trying to attract kids on getting into Sonic. Sad it became a Royal Flush down the toilet of gaming
I like to think the change of direction in instruments used reflects Infinite's themes. Combined with the swapping of the vocals, the remix works well for this stage.
I commented on the Eggmans facility one and how it sounds like white jungles track from sonic adventure 2, but this one absolutely samples the shadow Vs Ultimate lifeform prototype boss fight music
If the level was transcurred in the space colony ark, the enemies are GUN soldiers, and whe heard maria or gerald robotnick talking shadow, this level will be the best in the shadow episode
Y'know I'm sick of acting like I hated sonic forces, I fuckin loved it, hell I 100% completed it for christs sake Edit: i have gotten older and thus my tastes have vastly improved I was coping so hard when i made that comment cause i cant stand this game nowadays lmao
Forces isn’t a good game, I really liked it personally though but I think it’s something about Sonic, people enjoy even the worst games, because it’s Sonic, it’s something about him
@rasby977 oh absolutely, even as someone who liked the game im more than willing to admit it was far from perfect Hell even the writing wasn't the best, sonic more or less felt like a caricature of sorts of what he used to be, but I primarily like it for the ideas it introduced & the music Even if some of those ideas probably aren't coming back
To talk about this theme it must of been the best in the series of sonic(i like never play adventure 2 or Battle) (which is the same? Sonic Adventure 2,Sonic Adventure 2:Battle what's the difference? I still can't tell!?🤔lol😆)
Sonic adventure 2 battle has more multi-player content. In the dream cast version there were significantly less levels, like 10 between all styles. Battle made it so almost every level is available in multi-player. Otherwise other than some Chao functionality and a few tweaks, the single player content is near identical.
The crazy thing is I just finished playing sa2 and then I was jamming to supporting me and then I started playing sonic forces ep shadow and I heard this
To the pressure everything is just like an illusion I’ll be using you to the pressure everything is just like an illusion I’ll be using you before long. I believe in my future farewell to the shadow it was my place to live but now I need your hand lead me out of your light I have breathed in the disgusting air of darkness but I never lose you. To the pressure everything is just like an illusion I’ll be using you to the pressure everything is just like an illusion I’ll be using you before long. I believe in my future farewell to the shadow it was my place to live but now I need your hand lead me out with your light I have breathed in the disgusting air of darkness but I never lose you.
I don't understand why this theme is here, seeing as though Biolizard doesn't make an appearance in Sonic Forces, and this is his boss fight music after all. Glad to see it's here though.
well shadow is ultimate lifeform 2. after biolizard the theme plays for bio vs shadow so technically its the ultimate lifeform/shadow theme in a im jumping to conclusions way
All I want to know is why they made the live and learn melody have such a low volume in this version? I almost thought it wasn't even there until I heard the faded sound of the guitar. Why even add it if the odds of hearing it are so obscure.
this song is supposed to be a Boss music yet they made it a normal stage music and thus had to scrap some of the instruments that made it good from generations/sa2 and made it worse in comparison, they couldve just gone with a different song
It has it on the electric guitar but you can barely hear it. It's on the right earbud only for me so if your sound doesn't work on the right that may be why you can't hear it. And it's only on the second repitition of that verse
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There is a better version of this game on roblox called despicable forces, it has 14 levels but is really really good but you need a good working iPad, iPhone, MacBook or Windows computer to get the full graphic experience for the game
Seeing hallucinations of Maria, Biolizard and black doom would’ve made this level a lot better. But whatever
For whatever reason, it seems like they want to remove humans from the Sonic universe entirely. Which I don't think they realize they CAN'T because Robotnik is a human and Shadow's backstory VERY thoroughly involves humans.
i am so sad they basically removed his entire backstory
@@starlit-rain Yea me too. Shadow is my favorite character and the current Sonic team has ruined him.
@Daniel Kochofar Yeah... chances are they were just shown a five-minute video of each one and Iizuka was like, "So can you make something like that?"
@@GMaster4308 fr cuz i remember in 06 and unleashed they had humans. now they replaced them with half assed custom characters
A phantom Biolizard fight would've been fucking sick
Infinite could’ve really fucked with Shadow by making himself look like Maria with the Phantom Ruby and forcing Shadow to fight him, while looking like her
@@Electrix21yeah well keep in mind that would have been too dark for a kids game probably, and in character all this would do is piss shadow off even more, he’d kill infinite next time he saw him no hesitation. What would have been better is a hallucination of Maria that berates him, asking him why wasn’t he strong enough to save her, how much she hates him for failing her, add in a Gerald hallucination telling Shadow how disappointed he is in him, how the prototype was a better fit for the title of ultimate life form because at least it tried to fulfill its purpose, and then they tell him in the end he was just TOO WEAK… too weak repeats causing shadow to realize it’s all a fake, remoralizing him and making him even more determined to stop infinite. Infinite realizing the jig is up tries to throw phantoms of Shadow’s past at him like the bio lizard and black doom at him in a boss rush but shadow comes out on top.
Wish granted
I got some good news for you buddy
THANK GOODNESS OUR PRAYERS HAVE BEEN HEARD
0:41 I REALLY like the undertone of live and learn in this version.
0:54 that's where it is
I liked the original, where you can hear it more.
I don’t know why everyone hates this, I actually kind of like it.
wait.... people hate this?
Nobody's hating this
@@KeltkeGH I wish that were true but sadly people do, I don't know why, but they do.
@@drbuni I think the chorus in this version is the best of all the versions. The added guitar rift/synth in the back are a nice addition and the repetition of the first two lines really adds to the build up imo.
I hated that game because Sega lied to us we we’re getting a great game but instead we ended up with something that’s worst than 06
I like that this has a different feel but it’s still recognizably Supporting Me. The song itself fits the idea of the level like a glove
I feel like it’s what shadow hears now; he’d made peace, and memories haunt him, but he knows those ghost are just memories that make him stronger
I feel like supporting me was supposed to be originally shadow's theme
Well, in the Canon, biolozard was originally going to be shadow! ;)
Yes I know this comment is 7 months old.
@@mystictortoise5404 it's good bro I frequent this song alot
probably not, considering the song marks a change in his character and not his original character. it plays when he fights the biolizard, which is also the point where he steps up and becomes a hero
@@mystictortoise5404 Lol and now your comment is 7 months old
It is and what do you think they could remix it like this in 2001 or 2005 when shadow the hedgehog came out the best we got then was all of me.
Shadow: This is where Omega was destroyed. But there's no sign of him here...
Rouge: Sure seems that way, Probably because it never happend!
Shadow:What!?
Omega:Affirmative I have not known to d- d- de- Defeat!
Shadow:Omega!?!?
Omega: I'm not defeated I am not weak I Am Not Weak! I AM NOT WEAK! I AM NOT WEAK! I 4M N0T W34K I A# N0/ W3^K!!!...
Shadow: Ngh... What is this...? My head...
Remember when Infinite got so triggered over getting called weak?
I AM NOT WEAK. I AM NOT WEAK. I AM NOT WEAK.
Infrared Toa that scared me
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I remember I first heard that line with the JP audio, and just hearing Omega go: Watashi wa yowakunai. Watashi wa yowakunai. Watashi wa yowakunai. Was so funny to me at the time.
Sonic storytelling
Garrulous64 asked, what if sonic team actually wanted to give sonic forces more than 30 minutes to write a story
My top 5 songs in this game:
5. Rhythm and Balance (Eggman's Facility)
4. Fading World (Imperial Tower)
3. Supporting Me (Virtual Reality)
2. Nowhere to Run (Prison Hall)
1. Moonlight Battlefield (Aqua Road)
My top:
5. Ininite
4. Set In Motion (Guardian Rock)
3. Supporting Me (Virtual Reality)
2. Metal Sonic Remix US Ver.
1. Justice (Park Avenue)
Big arms
You forgot big arms
Sorry didn't read nvm
Infinite (Showdown) slaps too
Also really like Capital City
Rolling swaths of green hills begin to spin and swirl faster than even his own supersonic speed would justify, first the shape and then the color of his surroundings distorted and morphed into strange polygonal objects. For a moment, he felt as if he was in one of those insane "special stages" Sonic had told him about in his early years. But those polygons soon began transforming once more, into objects far more disturbing, and familar. The green grass became metallic flooring, the blue sky became empty space, and the Eggman robots became the hostile faces of GUN soldiers. For the first time in many years, he felt his heart quicken and his chest tighten out of fear and anxiety. But why? These GUN soldiers posed no threat to him, only to the girl who hand he firmly clutched as they ran down the hallw- Maria! Maria is with him. Suddenly, any confusion he had about his surroundings had to be cast aside. He pulled the girl along and ran as fast as he could with her following closely behind, the thunderous stomps of the boots of the soldiers gaining on them.
They came to a door that lead to the ARK observatory. If he could get them in there, they'd be safe, at least for a while.
He smashed his hand against the control panel, the door slide open and they dashed inside.
He looked behind him to see the door close, but when he turned back, he found himself inside the Ark's Emerald Shrine, with the enormous, thick-hided, rasping reptile snarling back at him from above. He looked to his right, but Maria was gone. But he could still hear her voice in his ears.
"It's okay, Shadow. I'm still here. Cheering you on. Supporting You."
Fuck this is good
NOW ITS GONNA BE CANNON
"Ngh... What is this...? My head..."
Me: oh my head where I am?
Not a bad remix. It keeps it's original sound intact, but like half the soundtrack in this game it feels more flat due to the electronic instruments. The again.......this might be better handled than the rest of the soundtrack. Still good but it's a good song so it's hard to destroy
The original had electronic instruments as well.
Less like a really shitty disco version. Like you can’t imagine shadow going against illusions. You can just imagine him on the dance floor.
I honestly think the composer which i forgot the name of did a smart choise.
Many people didn't like his new direction, though i think that he tried to do something like, 2017's pop, so basically it's all instrumented with synths and stuff, which was really popular back then, which leads me to belive Sonic Forces was trying to attract kids on getting into Sonic.
Sad it became a Royal Flush down the toilet of gaming
HOLY SHIT VIDDO3K HELLO
Bro never said hello back
0:55 we can hear Live and Learn in the background
3:19 I like this part for some reason
"What the....... What's going on, where am I? This doesn't feel like an illusion but......... Could it be a trap? Fine, I'll play along
Damn not here!
"You...are you really Rouge?"
This version hits different tho
ikrrr
When remixes are better than the original, absolute banger, I want them to remake SA1 and 2 now
@@Electrix21Sonic Adventure Ultimate
let's just hope it doesn't turn out like colours at launch...
I played forces before I played adventure 2 to figure out that that was where this theme came from
Pathetic Human
It is! They sampled some of Shadows tracks from SA2 for the music here
I like to think the change of direction in instruments used reflects Infinite's themes. Combined with the swapping of the vocals, the remix works well for this stage.
It is used in Shadow Mania, a mod for Sonic Mania, this music plays in Titanic Monarch and fits exactly
I'm glad they never forgot the times of SA and SA2
This version is my favorite version of this song.
Same
0:40 I started crying
why?
@@al3xm3rc3r0the Words I think
Where am I? That guy... What happen to Infinite?
I really like this theme
Bruh, Supporting Me is my favorite SA2 song and I didn't even notice it was in Sonic Forces when I played this stage
Guess we're gonna fight the Lizard again
I commented on the Eggmans facility one and how it sounds like white jungles track from sonic adventure 2, but this one absolutely samples the shadow Vs Ultimate lifeform prototype boss fight music
Yeah, egg man’s facility uses white jungle.
this level with the music provided is so hard for me to beat on the switch version of the game.
I had to restart the level a buncha times doing so.
why does this make me picture Tails flying the tornado over an eggman base under heavy fire?
That would've been epic!
Thank you for extending this!
Generations remix: Who the f%ck is that guy?
Original: Uuuhhh... wutabout meh?
Btw I really like this version.
0:40 THIS IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR!!!!!!!!!!
Who's hyped to see Shadow on December 20th?
I am!
I love how the beginning sounds like Green Hill
I dont know why this no one hears it its beoutifull and it goes well with shadow and his hidden emosions
"I AM NOT D-D-DEFEAT-TED!"
We all know why were here! Shadow Generations new trailer.
0:39 only part of the song I think tops the original
POV: you're trying to get amogus out of your head, I think shadow agrees with this statement
Oh! This is the biolizard!!
Hearing this Soundtrack in the Game was a pleasant surprise for me.
If the level was transcurred in the space colony ark, the enemies are GUN soldiers, and whe heard maria or gerald robotnick talking shadow, this level will be the best in the shadow episode
bro this is so good! this remix to the old theme
POV: the good procussion kid was away.
YES Family MY FAVORITE SONG OF SONIC FORCES!!!!
When play this stage I was like shadow is being mindfucked
Y'know I'm sick of acting like I hated sonic forces, I fuckin loved it, hell I 100% completed it for christs sake
Edit: i have gotten older and thus my tastes have vastly improved
I was coping so hard when i made that comment cause i cant stand this game nowadays lmao
Always good to have your own opinions.
Forces isn’t a good game, I really liked it personally though but I think it’s something about Sonic, people enjoy even the worst games, because it’s Sonic, it’s something about him
@rasby977 oh absolutely, even as someone who liked the game im more than willing to admit it was far from perfect
Hell even the writing wasn't the best, sonic more or less felt like a caricature of sorts of what he used to be, but I primarily like it for the ideas it introduced & the music
Even if some of those ideas probably aren't coming back
Same, my guy.
BrO, yOuR oPiNiOn Is InVaLiD aNd YoU nEeD tO gEt PsYcHiAtRiC hElP iF yOu LiKeD fOrCeS 🤓🤓🤓
To talk about this theme it must of been the best in the series of sonic(i like never play adventure 2 or Battle) (which is the same? Sonic Adventure 2,Sonic Adventure 2:Battle what's the difference? I still can't tell!?🤔lol😆)
Sonic adventure 2 battle has more multi-player content. In the dream cast version there were significantly less levels, like 10 between all styles. Battle made it so almost every level is available in multi-player. Otherwise other than some Chao functionality and a few tweaks, the single player content is near identical.
I like this remix
The crazy thing is I just finished playing sa2 and then I was jamming to supporting me and then I started playing sonic forces ep shadow and I heard this
Everyone know's Gerald's a lunatic, he was in here tonight, raving
At least Shadow got one of his boss themese remixed
This song gives me ptsd for every attempt to get the damn S-Rank 💀
i still like this version
To the pressure everything is just like an illusion I’ll be using you to the pressure everything is just like an illusion I’ll be using you before long. I believe in my future farewell to the shadow it was my place to live but now I need your hand lead me out of your light I have breathed in the disgusting air of darkness but I never lose you. To the pressure everything is just like an illusion I’ll be using you to the pressure everything is just like an illusion I’ll be using you before long. I believe in my future farewell to the shadow it was my place to live but now I need your hand lead me out with your light I have breathed in the disgusting air of darkness but I never lose you.
Fits with there’s something about Amy well
I don't understand why this theme is here, seeing as though Biolizard doesn't make an appearance in Sonic Forces, and this is his boss fight music after all. Glad to see it's here though.
well shadow is ultimate lifeform 2. after biolizard
the theme plays for bio vs shadow so technically its the ultimate lifeform/shadow theme in a im jumping to conclusions way
The song includes l
Lyrics like "everything's just like an illusion" which fit with the level, which is in fact some kind of fake illusion.
@@Houndfluffwell the biolizard is the prototype of the ultimate lifeform.
Is this the same singer from Devil May Cry 2?
??? No
Might get slack for this opinion: This is honestly my favorite version of this theme.
I mate play this again on the xbox one x
All I want to know is why they made the live and learn melody have such a low volume in this version? I almost thought it wasn't even there until I heard the faded sound of the guitar. Why even add it if the odds of hearing it are so obscure.
5h0ckblock it's there in the beta version tho.
Cuz it was kinda like that in the original supporting you from sa2
sounds like you were used to the generations version of this song
@@impulse5674 nah I heard it clearly in the original too.
Infinite: whos the chad now slag
SQUIDWARD LIVE
PEAK ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
SpongeBob chasing Squidward with the music on
Remember when Infinite got so triggered over being called 'weak'?
Missed opportunity for a Biolizard boss
Guess what
When does this even play? Was this in the game?
it was then they patched it for some reason
Maybe it went too hard for them.
THEY ARE WEAK.
THEY ARE WEAK.
THEY ARE WEAK.
Fox McFog this song played for me in Episode Shadow, which I just recently played the game, so it should be there if you haven’t gotten it yet
Never new about that one
Where does it plays ?
It plays in the Virtual Reality stage in the Sonic Forces Episode Shadow DLC.
Biolizard battle
goofy ah ah synths 😭😭😭
From sonic adventure 2
...I'm really sad they didn't list the track as supporting me- for infinite possibilities.
I mean it was _RIGHT FUCKING THERE_
It's not that clever or good
🐺🎧💢
>Removed live and learn motif
what is this bullshit
Shadow focusing on another boss battle? :)
At least we got an awesome guitar.
this song is supposed to be a Boss music yet they made it a normal stage music and thus had to scrap some of the instruments that made it good from generations/sa2 and made it worse in comparison, they couldve just gone with a different song
8 people weren't supported
Ge3te3 final form fight
i love I love this song but Ñ
Why did they get rid of the Live and Learn melody??? Would have made it sound a lot less generic
PlainIguana Its there but the guitars for it are at an EXTREMELY low volume. I was so mad when I heard it.
Tbh I believe to make the lyrics more loud for the theme of the level, that everything is an Illusion
Still disappointed it doesn't have Live And Learn leitmotif
It has it on the electric guitar but you can barely hear it. It's on the right earbud only for me so if your sound doesn't work on the right that may be why you can't hear it. And it's only on the second repitition of that verse
Not an excuse though, they definitely should have made it clearer
The other version is much better. much creepier, and just better.
No
SHADOW THE EDGEHOG
can you link your prolife ur your sonic forces game on roblox
Flash Gamer DX Nope you can't. sorry pal
Roblox
Roblox sucks
i
what?
Messed up a perfectly good song.
Eh i like the original way more
thank god supporting me didnt got another rave remix
Nope, it is getting a more metal remix in Generations X Shadow
Look how they massacred my boy
You should consider uploading more music from Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Sonic Adventures DX and 2 Battle, Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog (2006), Sonic and the Secret Rings, Metal Gear Solid 1, Dragon Ball Z Budokai 1, and Hyrule Warriors. What do you say?
There is a better version of this game on roblox called despicable forces, it has 14 levels but is really really good but you need a good working iPad, iPhone, MacBook or Windows computer to get the full graphic experience for the game
THEY REMOVED THE ORCHESTRAL LIVE AND LEARN MOTIF?! WHY?!
A year later. It's still there as a guitar riff
This one was boring compared to the other two versions.
Original better
This sounds pretty generic imo
its okay. doesn't beat the original. at all
Sa2 > generations > forces. They make it worse every time
This is absolutely disgusting.
awful