I loved doing this when I was at college, it must be at least twenty years since I did any metal trunking. Fantastic job you did there mate better than I could do, Fantastic video mark as always 👍👍👍❤️
Happy days Mark . It’s a skill they should be teaching because there’s always a job where off the self bends are not sustainable . We would also put extra lid fixings in to stop it flapping around . And do all this with just a hacksaw , so I recon with a grinder I could make it cost effective and even more so if an apprentice was doing it . A win win situation as they say , educational and money saving . I wonder how many jobs have come to a standstill because know body has the relevant skill set to do this . Finally call me old fashioned but I think it actually looks better , what do your lads think ? 😂. Best wishes and kind regards as always 👍👍👍
I bet it has stopped a few jobs and then. Seems to be that many tendered bigger jobs state pre made fittings only. Shame really. My lads like to do this stuff I think. They can metal munch when needed lol.
Nice effort. I like manufacturing my own but haven`t had to for a while now. I usually only cut out half of what you did and use the bit we don`t cut off to form the inner join. I was waiting to be impressed by your skill with a hacksaw and then you brought out a battery grinder lol.
Hi Mark, we do the same thing with the trunking around the board usually 150 x 150 as for the number of cables and sometimes bush and lockring left and right wholesalers never seem to stock the square edge 90's always the gusset type so we have got wise and order ahead but well done I could see the gray matter going there on recall. Ps don't lose the stickers and door handle my mate always does.
Haha good tip with the handle and stickers lol. Always keep them in the dB until we use them. Yeah we lock ringed another dB this week. Fancied a change lol
would be intrested to see a more in depth video on slotting. I'd like to become better at it. straight cuts paxalin possibly lining up 2 boards sharing the same slotted trunking its an artform
The 90s take about 10 mins each. Liding up another 10 mins of cutting. So 45 mins just on the bends for this setup is about right I would say. Obviously more time with the slotting and fixing to DB/joining. But we would be doing that anyway on pre made. Whats a 90 100x100 these days about £15-£18 + VAT ish? So £45-£54 + VAT approx. In fairness we would have to lid up pre made as well so around 30 mins is probably a fair comparison. Not a lot in it I would argue but allows us to be more productive on site and less hot works. We will still be using pre made put it that way lol
I agree mate, it absolutely stinks. I’m still yet to find which blade is best for cutting it with. We used a jigsaw for years but it takes forever, we tend to use a grinder now seems to do the trick. Have you any tips on what you use to cut the paxolin with?
i do this all the time at the board. as the company i work for always gets guseted bend and you cant get them tight to the board.a flat 90. usually take about 10 min and all i use is a roofing square a grinder a file and a drill. i also score the back of the bend with a gengle pass with the grinder and it leave a nice square clean edge. Thats just how i do it. but your way did look good
Hi Mark just wondered I was told on site that I couldn’t fabricate bends as butted joins we’re not allowed anymore as the butted join is not to standard or IP rating is that correct?
It is and isnt lol. Only some pre made trunking meets the IP requirements for it. Legrand salamandre being one that is rated for that. But most other stuff has the same IP rating as making it yourself. You can fabricate to maintain a higher IP rating with a different method to the cuts. But generally this way is totally fine. For example on these little cuts once on the wall will be nearly air tight lol. Lots of site work instructs manufactored bends in tenders and contracts of work so that is why most dont like us making stuff.
Shouldn't you fillet it? If you just cut one 45 and cut the lip off the other 45 then you can just put in some self tappers and have a better earth on the trunking.
There are other ways as I said Gary at GSH shows that in another video. Won't effect the earth though. Still got a full slab in place with cross bolts. Just different methods. This is the way it was always done once upon a time. No to self tappers tho, they shouldn't be used. Bolts or pot rivets only imo
👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽 good fabrication and the Eaton gaskets are the one saves messing with pax
I loved doing this when I was at college, it must be at least twenty years since I did any metal trunking.
Fantastic job you did there mate better than I could do,
Fantastic video mark as always 👍👍👍❤️
Cheers sean
When I did trunking fabrication we would cut fish plates to put inside and then drill and pop rivet.Happy days when time was not an issue
Used to do the same. Our rivet gun is broken sadly.
Nice neat job Mark the mini grinder looks good
Happy days Mark . It’s a skill they should be teaching because there’s always a job where off the self bends are not sustainable . We would also put extra lid fixings in to stop it flapping around . And do all this with just a hacksaw , so I recon with a grinder I could make it cost effective and even more so if an apprentice was doing it . A win win situation as they say , educational and money saving . I wonder how many jobs have come to a standstill because know body has the relevant skill set to do this . Finally call me old fashioned but I think it actually looks better , what do your lads think ? 😂. Best wishes and kind regards as always 👍👍👍
I bet it has stopped a few jobs and then. Seems to be that many tendered bigger jobs state pre made fittings only. Shame really. My lads like to do this stuff I think. They can metal munch when needed lol.
Thank you. Makes sense since I've just completed year 2 C&G!
Nice effort. I like manufacturing my own but haven`t had to for a while now. I usually only cut out half of what you did and use the bit we don`t cut off to form the inner join. I was waiting to be impressed by your skill with a hacksaw and then you brought out a battery grinder lol.
That's the way they teach it in college these days. My way is old school lol. Plenty of ways to skin a cat. What's a hand saw? Never heard of it.
Hi Mark, we do the same thing with the trunking around the board usually 150 x 150 as for the number of cables and sometimes bush and lockring left and right wholesalers never seem to stock the square edge 90's always the gusset type so we have got wise and order ahead but well done I could see the gray matter going there on recall. Ps don't lose the stickers and door handle my mate always does.
Haha good tip with the handle and stickers lol. Always keep them in the dB until we use them. Yeah we lock ringed another dB this week. Fancied a change lol
Great presentation. Problem with using a grinder on site is you could be into hot metal works and it's surprising how far sparks can travel.
Yes this is the case. But then still very commonly used on most metal containment
would be intrested to see a more in depth video on slotting. I'd like to become better at it. straight cuts paxalin possibly lining up 2 boards sharing the same slotted trunking its an artform
Its on the channel on earlier videos but can always do more lol thanks
Nice work Mark, if you costed the time, how does it compare with using preformed angles
The 90s take about 10 mins each. Liding up another 10 mins of cutting. So 45 mins just on the bends for this setup is about right I would say. Obviously more time with the slotting and fixing to DB/joining. But we would be doing that anyway on pre made.
Whats a 90 100x100 these days about £15-£18 + VAT ish? So £45-£54 + VAT approx. In fairness we would have to lid up pre made as well so around 30 mins is probably a fair comparison. Not a lot in it I would argue but allows us to be more productive on site and less hot works. We will still be using pre made put it that way lol
Great job mate, we have to use paxalin inbetween DB and trunking.
Yeah we use paxolin also but this was 15 quid for both. Done and no stinky smell lol
I agree mate, it absolutely stinks. I’m still yet to find which blade is best for cutting it with. We used a jigsaw for years but it takes forever, we tend to use a grinder now seems to do the trick. Have you any tips on what you use to cut the paxolin with?
@@Dibbo1979 we use a laminate cutting blade in the jigsaw. Normal wood blades take forever and blunt after a few cuts.
i do this all the time at the board. as the company i work for always gets guseted bend and you cant get them tight to the board.a flat 90. usually take about 10 min and all i use is a roofing square a grinder a file and a drill. i also score the back of the bend with a gengle pass with the grinder and it leave a nice square clean edge. Thats just how i do it. but your way did look good
Are you using the trunking as the CPC?
Nope
Hi Mark just wondered I was told on site that I couldn’t fabricate bends as butted joins we’re not allowed anymore as the butted join is not to standard or IP rating is that correct?
It is and isnt lol. Only some pre made trunking meets the IP requirements for it. Legrand salamandre being one that is rated for that. But most other stuff has the same IP rating as making it yourself. You can fabricate to maintain a higher IP rating with a different method to the cuts. But generally this way is totally fine. For example on these little cuts once on the wall will be nearly air tight lol. Lots of site work instructs manufactored bends in tenders and contracts of work so that is why most dont like us making stuff.
Cheers for your reply keep up the good work👍🏼
Shouldn't you fillet it? If you just cut one 45 and cut the lip off the other 45 then you can just put in some self tappers and have a better earth on the trunking.
There are other ways as I said Gary at GSH shows that in another video. Won't effect the earth though. Still got a full slab in place with cross bolts. Just different methods. This is the way it was always done once upon a time. No to self tappers tho, they shouldn't be used. Bolts or pot rivets only imo
How do you find the m12 cut off tool?
It's brilliant. 6ah batteries a must tho. Obviously limited by its size but for most jobs its bang on.