The biology of race in the absence of biological races: Rick Kittles at TEDxNorthwesternU

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  • Опубліковано 24 січ 2011
  • Defining "race" continues to be a nemesis. Knowledge from human genetic research is increasingly challenging the notion that race and biology are inextricably linked, engendering tremendous ramifications for human relations, identity and public health. It has become fashionable for geneticists and anthropologists to declare that race is a social construction. However, there is little practical value to this belief since few in the public believe and act on it. Thus race is mainly a social concept which in the US has been based on skin color and ancestry. Yet biomedical studies continue to examine black/ white differences. Kittles discusses why using race in biomedical studies is problematic using examples from U.S. groups which transcend "racial" boundaries and bear the burden of health disparities.
    Rick Kittles, PhD, received a BS in biology from the Rochester Institute of Technology in 1989 and a PhD in biological sciences from George Washington University in 1998. He then helped establish the National Human Genome Center at Howard University. Currently, Kittles is an associate professor of medicine in the Division of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), as well as the associate director of the UIC Cancer Center.
    Kittles is well known for his research of prostate cancer and health disparities among African Americans. He has also been at the forefront of the development of ancestry-informative genetic markers, and how genetic ancestry can be used to map genes for common traits and disease. His work on tracing the genetic ancestry of African Americans has brought light to many issues, new and old, which relate to race, ancestry, identity, and group membership.
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  • @BKMiller1970
    @BKMiller1970 7 років тому +68

    great talk really lousy cameraperson.If he is talking about something in his powerpoint, you really should show the powerpoint.

  • @ivanaamidzic
    @ivanaamidzic 11 років тому +38

    Why doesn't camera show all what he shows on the screen?

    • @IceBlueLugia
      @IceBlueLugia 3 роки тому +1

      @@MJ-hg1mk that seems really random

    • @Steve_Jarrett-Jordan
      @Steve_Jarrett-Jordan 2 роки тому

      They do it on every ted talk. Every single one.

    • @Propain4eva
      @Propain4eva 3 місяці тому

      @@MJ-hg1mk You are truly onto something there! 🤦‍♂

  • @tahliah6691
    @tahliah6691 4 роки тому +16

    People need to understand the difference between race ethnicity and nationality ...... and inbreeding to understand genetics and origin

  • @zephsmith3499
    @zephsmith3499 6 років тому +26

    I continue to be amazed as how often people argue about a word as if there can be only one concept for race, and it must be the one they are trying to prove exists or doesn't exist. So often the arguments are semantically circular, relying on everyone using a specific chosen meaning for the word which makes their assertion true.
    If someone says "race is a social construct", that is absolutely true - for some meanings associated with the word "race" and not for others. If they were speaking more clearly, they would say "when 'race' refers to the social construct of race, it is a social construct", in which case the circularity would be more obvious. Leaving out the explicit qualifiers can disguise the meaninglessness of the argument.
    Someone else might refer to a set of fuzzy categories based on multifactor cluster analysis of measurable biological traits. Race in that sense is not a social construct in the sense above, it emerges from mathematical analysis of physical traits. A Martian anthropologist with no ax to grind and no knowledge of human cultures would find the same clusters. Of course, by changing parameters and thresholds, you might get different numbers of clusters, so a cluster analysis is meaningful (the strongest clusters will remain in all cases) but not comprehensively definitive (eg: the number of minor clusters depend on your arbitrary thresholds).
    These two conceptions of race will correlate to some degree, but inexactly (see Kittles' slides). And of course, we cannot categorize every individual as being exactly one of N races (from somebody's favorite set, socially defined or as biological trait clusters). For example, the boundaries of clusters are fuzzy and there are many data points between the clusters. Just as the concepts of day and night are meaningful concepts that should not be discarded, even tho the existence of twilight means that we cannot meaningfully categorize every single moment of the day as always being either day or night (and our chosen thresholds between day/twilight/night are arbitrary).
    Kittles parses this in part by distinguishing between social race and biological ancestry, acknowledging that both exist - rather than fighting endlessly for the existence or non-existence of one these different concepts which are often subsumed under the same word "race".
    It's important to keep in mind his purpose - identifying meaningful groupings for things like medical statistics. For example, is some medical condition statistically associated with people with a strong African genetic ancestry, or with a socio-economic status which in turns correlates to some degree with social race (environment, behavior)? He's saying you have to tease these our before you can make scientifically strong associations which could guide research or treatment.

    • @anominousanonymous9344
      @anominousanonymous9344 6 років тому +2

      How do you explain the higher likelyhood of depression and other potential cognitive differences between those w Neanderthal DNA and those without? Race is obviously not a construct but that should be OK! Acknowledgement of the existence of races in no way condones racism.

    • @dlat1825
      @dlat1825 5 років тому

      You make a good point. I do use the word as it was originally intended, as a determinable sub-species taxonomy that has predictive ability. I would call what the Americans have as "caste".

    • @misterlyle.
      @misterlyle. 5 років тому +4

      Zeph Smith -- Your comments in this context are uniquely thorough and meaningful. If I understand clusters, it should follow that while some people may be strongly associated with a certain group, there are too many whose position is transitional--part of overlapping groups.

    • @mrsgolden6526
      @mrsgolden6526 4 роки тому +1

      @@anominousanonymous9344 well even Sub-Saharan africans have a tiny bit Neanderthal DNA, it's just that the others have a lot more of it

    • @mrsgolden6526
      @mrsgolden6526 4 роки тому +2

      @@misterlyle. exactly, everybody can be categorized in a certain way, but what's important to know is that the point where you would draw the line can't be really found, because the transition from one to the other is fluid
      It's almost like you could say that "race" is like a spectrum, everybody can be placed somewhere and some may be closer together on it than others but nobody will be on the same spot

  • @OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro
    @OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro 4 роки тому +12

    I REALLY enjoyed listening to this brutha! There is still so much we don't understand about ourselves! It's going to see how genetics plays a part in the ethics of Health care delivery. ☺❤👨🏾‍⚕️🔬📚💊

  • @rickrogers951
    @rickrogers951 10 років тому +3

    Very enlightening. I've also realized how use of the gentleman's census tracts can be of invaluable assistance with my Economic Awareness Seminars

  • @Ethiokarate1
    @Ethiokarate1 8 років тому +62

    This guy really broke it down, people in the comments are idiots for bashing his segregation of biological and social factors. And the odd importance to keep race in the discussion in a world that wants it out (baby with the bathwater statement)

    • @user-ug5jy4lm1y
      @user-ug5jy4lm1y 8 років тому +8

      We can substitute the term race with ethnic groups which are groups that come from certain geographical and cultural backgrounds making the diagnosis based on ethnic group more accurate depending on where specifically in the world they came from

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 7 років тому +1

      yeah i can read some coments
      people arownd here are ingnorant and maby geneticaly idiots
      hahahah this kind of idiots think that they are superior
      ha ha ha , the best advice LOL , Go Back To School

    • @Edruezzi
      @Edruezzi 5 років тому +1

      @Techroach Darwin recognized biological race is impossible to define. He did that in the 19th century, more than 100 years before genomics.

    • @robinsss
      @robinsss 5 років тому

      I think it's clear that he was wrong...…………………………...the features clearly result in three clear groups

    • @LesterBrunt
      @LesterBrunt 5 років тому +6

      @@robinsss Why only look at features like skin color? If you group people along eye color there are 4 races, green eyed, blue eyed, brown eyed and mixed color, why aren't that races?

  • @carolinejames9053
    @carolinejames9053 3 роки тому +5

    A great talk and super helpful!

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 9 років тому +4

    He's talking about disease being more prevalent in particular ethnic groups than others, but he has to define ethnicity before making that claim. Is not the definition of ethnicity just as slippery as race?

    • @theespatier4456
      @theespatier4456 6 років тому +2

      sleepyeyeguy Ethnicity includes cultural factors and this probably is publicly known.

    • @gangofheroes
      @gangofheroes 6 років тому

      sleepyeyeguy yeah what he should have said is breed.

  • @stephenmealing6366
    @stephenmealing6366 6 років тому +3

    I am trying to hear more people who disagree with race realism, just trying to hear both sides. Any good people to listen to?

    • @jermaineedwards8384
      @jermaineedwards8384 5 років тому +6

      Their is no such thing as race other then that we have all been conditioned from birth in believing their is and people have died and been made slave's and law's and policies have been created based on race, so on a societal level race is most definitely real it's just not real biologically so on a biological level their is no hearing the other side because their is no different race's so an opposing opinion on race biologically is irrelevant socially now that's an interesting debate to have.

    • @abdihakimhashi8621
      @abdihakimhashi8621 4 роки тому +4

      Darth Skater no. Science completely disproves race realism and race science and puts them in pseudo sciences.

    • @abdihakimhashi8621
      @abdihakimhashi8621 4 роки тому +2

      I’m here, there is no scientific basis for race because white ancestors couldn’t even say what was white. For a while Irish, polish, Italians, Scottish, and Slavs weren’t considered white

    • @tunjilegba
      @tunjilegba 4 роки тому +2

      Jermaine Edwards On a biological level all dog breeds are the same Race

    • @mrsgolden6526
      @mrsgolden6526 4 роки тому +1

      @@jermaineedwards8384 what the average person sees as race, are people that evolved in different directions, and that undoubtedly happened, race just may be the wrong term for it

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 9 років тому +4

    He's looking at populations of different "ancestry" without clearly defining ancestry beforehand. Is it based on self report or what? And how is that in any way scientific or reliable?

    • @nefertitiqueenofegypt4964
      @nefertitiqueenofegypt4964 8 років тому +6

      You sad because you wish race exist sorry it NEVER HAD AND NEVER WILL EXIST ! ! ! !

    • @___Truth___
      @___Truth___ 7 років тому +2

      Nefertiti QueenOfEgypt I agree that race is a social construct, but you literally made no attempt at arguing his points, instead you go straight to an ad hominem, that says more about you then him. It says alot about your ability to critically reason with someone.

    • @___Truth___
      @___Truth___ 7 років тому

      Nefertiti QueenOfEgypt I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

    • @angelicadayanafernandez1525
      @angelicadayanafernandez1525 2 роки тому

      @@nefertitiqueenofegypt4964, woke clown

  • @trollunion54
    @trollunion54 5 років тому +10

    I like his laugh.

  • @matthewronson5218
    @matthewronson5218 4 роки тому +9

    "Race and biology are inextricably linked" is a fact.

    • @lot110
      @lot110 4 роки тому +5

      How? race is not identifiable

    • @Bocbo
      @Bocbo 4 роки тому

      @@lot110
      Being pedantic is not an argument.

    • @LesterBrunt
      @LesterBrunt 4 роки тому +4

      @@Bocbo Then define the human races.

    • @Bocbo
      @Bocbo 4 роки тому

      @@LesterBrunt
      This usually gets censored.
      Homosapien sapiens
      Homosapien x Neanderthal
      Homosapien x Neanderthal x Denisovan

    • @LesterBrunt
      @LesterBrunt 4 роки тому +5

      @@Bocbo so how would you recognize those genetics by someones skin color or eye shape?
      Where would Indians (dot, not feather) be within those catagories?

  • @laurieberry162
    @laurieberry162 Рік тому

    Biology?

  • @limitless1692
    @limitless1692 7 років тому +7

    great video
    i understand the genes and race a bit more clearly
    thanks TEDx

  • @4TIMESAYEAR
    @4TIMESAYEAR 3 роки тому +5

    Stop calling it race. It's ethnicity. Not all blacks are "Africans".

    • @overtonpendulum2071
      @overtonpendulum2071 2 роки тому

      Ethnicity is not the same as race. Ethnicity is culture and language, race is biology.

    • @4TIMESAYEAR
      @4TIMESAYEAR 2 роки тому +4

      @@overtonpendulum2071 No such thing as race. There's only one. HUMAN.

    • @overtonpendulum2071
      @overtonpendulum2071 2 роки тому +1

      @@4TIMESAYEAR Wrong.

    • @4TIMESAYEAR
      @4TIMESAYEAR 2 роки тому +4

      @@overtonpendulum2071 Wrong.

    • @overtonpendulum2071
      @overtonpendulum2071 2 роки тому

      @@4TIMESAYEAR Race is subspecies. The genetic distance among many widely recognized animal subspecies is equal to or less than among human races. The fact races aren't called subspecies is entirely political.

  • @alifasl533
    @alifasl533 3 роки тому +1

    perfect

  • @oliverphippen1957
    @oliverphippen1957 2 роки тому

    Your biological brother is not the same as you nor is your sister ????

  • @MJ-hg1mk
    @MJ-hg1mk 5 років тому +3

    He should do this over! After he firmly defines the terms he is using, and stops conflating them. An American geneticist of color should know better and must do better.

    • @Bocbo
      @Bocbo 4 роки тому

      All these race isn't real videos are pendantic and dishonest.

    • @stephenrochester6309
      @stephenrochester6309 4 роки тому +9

      Bocbo
      The way race has been used to categorise people thus far has been dishonest.

    • @sarah-jl8cr
      @sarah-jl8cr 4 роки тому +2

      @@stephenrochester6309 Even been debunkend in the 50's/60's.

    • @mrsgolden6526
      @mrsgolden6526 4 роки тому +1

      @@stephenrochester6309 we should be able to detect "race" without automatically categorizing it

    • @simonbright2975
      @simonbright2975 3 роки тому +1

      @@Bocbo Unfortunately for you, that's called scientific consensus.

  • @deckiedeckie
    @deckiedeckie 7 років тому

    Crusaders are like remoras...

  • @bastardtubeuser
    @bastardtubeuser 5 років тому +11

    search "Douglas Whitman: "Amazing Racial Differences""

    • @TremendousSax
      @TremendousSax 4 роки тому +11

      Good job at recommending pseudo scientific nonsense that's been thoroughly debunked and unambiguously rejected by the scientific community. Racial realism is at odds with what's known about genetics

    • @calroach1
      @calroach1 4 роки тому +1

      bastardtubeuser at the end of the day it all began in Africa so chew on that.

    • @abdihakimhashi8621
      @abdihakimhashi8621 4 роки тому +1

      Andre Knowledge357 you understand that most of those things you said are because of geological isolation right? IQ is not inherited at all, there are so many other factors that contribute to low IQ right? Socioeconomic standing, motivation, education. You can’t sit here and say race is “biological” than go off and point physical and geological features. The wonder of the human gene pool is how diverse we are.

    • @sicknness1
      @sicknness1 4 роки тому

      @@abdihakimhashi8621 ?? man... evolution it's about adapting to the enviornment... geological features are going to made a change... it's obvious. geological isolation its what's make differences in our genes and phenotype.... so... race is biological. ¿whats the problem with races after all? it shouln't make any differences in human rights, respect and fairness, etc.

    • @Bocbo
      @Bocbo 4 роки тому

      @@calroach1
      And at the end of the day Africans were eaten and bred out of existence north of the Sahara.
      Neanderthal admixture... It's a thing.

  • @bjrnn.2689
    @bjrnn.2689 2 роки тому +2

    "Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free."
    - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -
    Culture is just the fenotype of a population.
    Iq is genetic like everything else.
    There will always be deviants and outliers.
    Haplogroup is a better term than race.
    Plato described this 2500 years ago in the myth of the metals
    Crime is not a result of poverty, its a result of RELATIV poverty.
    Mixing groups with large diffrence in iq creates RELATIV poverty and political polarisation.

  • @nordriket
    @nordriket 5 років тому +10

    No white privelige then?

    • @themikedemoz8330
      @themikedemoz8330 3 роки тому +1

      There isnt white perivlige.....you are the product of the all events ....

  • @geraldjinx
    @geraldjinx 4 роки тому +1

    *_The whole video he spent "uhm"_*

  • @jakemcnamee9417
    @jakemcnamee9417 5 років тому +11

    This is like saying shape is a social construct because you can get hybrid shapes

    • @TOITN
      @TOITN 5 років тому +11

      Autistic comment.

    • @abdihakimhashi8621
      @abdihakimhashi8621 4 роки тому +2

      Tyler Rech it’s is? You can’t compare race to “shapes” because “shapes” don’t have genetics.

    • @simonbright2975
      @simonbright2975 3 роки тому +3

      :l More like, you can go up to infinity in terms of shapes and variation, and never draw the line (heh puns). We decide who is what race depending on clusters of variation. Currently, we base these clusters continentally (but this hasn't always been the case.

    • @angelicadayanafernandez1525
      @angelicadayanafernandez1525 2 роки тому

      @@TOITN, clown comment

  • @TS-tv2ik
    @TS-tv2ik Рік тому

    Dr. Rick is so intelligent! Thank you for showing truth.

  • @Tony-hv6mo
    @Tony-hv6mo 5 років тому +8

    I disagree with him. We don't "need" race today to study certain American groups. Most groups disenfranchised today are struggling from either past social mistakes or modern class struggle. We may need the idea of race to study the lasting effects of slavery, jim crow, etc...but we only need to understand it as a crazy idea that previous generations made up.
    Example: We don't need to see the sun as a god to be educate ourselves about how past civilizations were influenced by this idea.

  • @d3g3n3r4t3
    @d3g3n3r4t3 5 років тому +7

    what? ya there are races...what they say is that we are all one species

    • @wilburmcbride8096
      @wilburmcbride8096 4 роки тому +1

      I think this is the best observation too. It sounds to me like someone is trying to history. This is no different than having 52 genders.

    • @simonbright2975
      @simonbright2975 3 роки тому +2

      @@masterpalladin No. There's no sub species. The variation is too little and too smooth to be the case.

  • @txrcher
    @txrcher 7 років тому +14

    I'm glad that he was willing to admit that there's no such thing as race, but I don't see the need to continue to use such a false term.

    • @contactkeithstack
      @contactkeithstack 6 років тому

      what disastrous consequences?

    • @willowb1527
      @willowb1527 6 років тому

      And the truth shall set you free.

    • @user-ee5om8wy7u
      @user-ee5om8wy7u 5 років тому +2

      Agree. African ethnicities are more specific and useful. Afro-descendants are real and nobody denies that. Euro-descendants are no less real. But most Americans are simply Afro-European or Afro-Indian or Euro-African without even knowing it.

    • @lord_cobi
      @lord_cobi 4 роки тому

      @Jarod Rieth Italian is a nationality bud

    • @bonsummers2657
      @bonsummers2657 4 роки тому

      ​@@PlzPr3sspl4y Race is historically geographically mostly separate genetically-morphologically distinctive populations.

  • @christat5336
    @christat5336 Рік тому

    Hahahahah 😂😂... ..

  • @TokenTeran
    @TokenTeran 4 роки тому +6

    His credibility dropped when he used Hispanic as an example of a race with large variations. Hispanic is not a race.

    • @anotherpointofview222
      @anotherpointofview222 4 роки тому +3

      @Token, Who's the defining authority on what a race is, what races there are, and who belongs to what race?

    • @josealbertoherreramelian5413
      @josealbertoherreramelian5413 4 роки тому +2

      Ad a Spaniard I would say that Hispanics were those who lived in Hispania, the Roman province of the Iberian Península. Nowadays a Hispanic is somebody who has Spanish as mother tongue.

    • @anotherpointofview222
      @anotherpointofview222 3 роки тому +1

      @Sam Houston
      You don't have to have one. But if you are going to play the race game, identify by race, speak that language, The rules, characteristics, and meaning has to be defined.

    • @anotherpointofview222
      @anotherpointofview222 3 роки тому +6

      @Sam Houston Words mean different things to different people. The same word can have different meanings to different people. If races are is a scientifically defined there should be quantifiable, authoritative, genetically determined metrics.

    • @soccerchamp0511
      @soccerchamp0511 2 роки тому +5

      I don't think he's saying it's a race. I think he's using that group designation because it is a designation used by the government. But I think he is trying to show why it shouldn't be.

  • @kelleyknapp1499
    @kelleyknapp1499 5 років тому +2

    I guess then I am Irish Scotch French Dutch English an Indian American. Why hyphenate I am American.

    • @jermaineedwards8384
      @jermaineedwards8384 5 років тому +1

      You are African.

    • @abdihakimhashi8621
      @abdihakimhashi8621 4 роки тому

      Because you live in America? There is a difference between race and nationality. You know for a long time Italians, Scottish, Irish, and polish weren’t considered white right

    • @aaronrodriguez1410
      @aaronrodriguez1410 3 роки тому

      @@abdihakimhashi8621 they've always been white

  • @hammockcamping2500
    @hammockcamping2500 Рік тому +1

    There's no reason to blindly conclude that all population groups are blessed with the same genetic endowment. It's important that we don't ignore the biological genetic differences between various population groups. Failure to properly identify the genetic origin of population level differences between groups could cause folks to infer that systematic racism is a greater cause of racial disparities than is really the case. For example, African American students study half as much as European American students, who in turn, study half as much as Asian American students. African American women are more likely to drive a luxury car than European American women. These groups have different locations on The r/K spectrum as well. Even as different dog breeds have different temperaments, different human population groups should be expected to do so as well (perhaps not as pronounced).
    Here's a quote about temperament
    "Temperament refers to an individual's characteristic or habitual modes of behavioral and emotional responding that are present at an early age and often believed to have some basis in biological processes partly determined by heredity. It is typically discernible at birth. That infants differ systematically is shown by research observations starting in the first few days or weeks of life and extending, in some cases, for over a decade. In their book,Temperament and Behavior Disorders in Children, Thomas, Chess, and Birch (1968) were able to classify babies shortly after their birth into three types-"easy children" (adaptable, cheerful, regular in habits), "difficult children" (irritable, crying, withdrawn, irregular in habits), and "slow-to-warm-up children" (inactive, slow to adapt, gentle). About 70% of the difficult babies later developed behavioral problems calling for psychiatric attention; only 18% of the easy ones had such problems (Thomas & Chess, 1984)."

    • @elzheffner5209
      @elzheffner5209 10 місяців тому +4

      Is this your measuring stick for racism?

    • @hammockcamping2500
      @hammockcamping2500 10 місяців тому +1

      @elzheffner5209 is what my measuring stick?

  • @darrylevans4401
    @darrylevans4401 Рік тому

    Good speech brotha but your walking to much. Stay still for a second!!!!!!!!

  • @gangofheroes
    @gangofheroes 6 років тому +4

    What we all race is actually breed.

    • @supernsansa
      @supernsansa 4 роки тому

      Breeds are also not real, look it up

    • @masterpalladin
      @masterpalladin 4 роки тому +1

      one species......with subspecies

    • @mrsgolden6526
      @mrsgolden6526 4 роки тому

      @@supernsansa so every animal has different breeds besides us?

    • @supernsansa
      @supernsansa 4 роки тому

      @@mrsgolden6526 Like I said, the idea of dog breeds being equivalent to subspecies of canine is just as fictional as race. Look it up if you don't believe me.

  • @haas5991
    @haas5991 9 років тому +42

    This is a really disingenuous discussion. Just because the races often overlap and fade into one another it does not mean there isn't a biological element to race. Our skin color is determined by generic components and therefore is biological. Plus race doesn't just involve different skin colors. Different races of people are different sizes on average, they have different features such as hair and shapes of things like noses. The different races have different brain sizes which do in fact have a significant correlation with intelligence on average. It's not a perfect correlation but it is noteworthy. The different races also have different time periods for things like gestation periods or the amount of time it takes for a baby to walk. Africans tend to develop faster with whites developing faster than Asians in the same way. Race is completely biological and genetic. While it's true that the terms and classifications are social constructs the actual things they are based on couldn't be more real.

    • @rolandixor
      @rolandixor 9 років тому +21

      There are creams you can buy for such extreme butthurt, in case you're still in pain.

    • @bonsummers2657
      @bonsummers2657 8 років тому

      +007MrYang the source is our eyes, noticing consistent morphological differences of populations with traits distinctive from other populations.

    • @007MrYang
      @007MrYang 8 років тому +4

      Bond Summers That's not exactly a reliable source. Our eyes can be easily fooled, that's why illusionists and "magicians" are still a thing.

    • @bonsummers2657
      @bonsummers2657 8 років тому +2

      007MrYang You're wrong, racial distinctions are very noticeable in a way that is not 'magic'.

    • @godzillamegatron3590
      @godzillamegatron3590 7 років тому +8

      Joe Haas so your going this genetists that he's wrong. A person who studied human genetics, able to analyze and isolate DNA , that he his wrong?

  • @NO-yx6yl
    @NO-yx6yl 8 років тому +27

    The art of the double think

    • @KokuzumaHatena
      @KokuzumaHatena 6 років тому +16

      The art of purposely not understanding.

  • @Food4thought1234
    @Food4thought1234 4 роки тому +2

    They majority of his talk was ok. I just lost it at the end with his DNA test. He is very wrong in that his siblings or even a twin. They could take the same test and come out with different results. I thought he was a biologist, and was about to ask how didn’t he know this. Overall, I agree with what he said. But DNA doesn’t work that way.

    • @tunjilegba
      @tunjilegba 4 роки тому +2

      The results are questionable in terms of specificity

  • @Tony-hv6mo
    @Tony-hv6mo 5 років тому +7

    We should stop talking about race as if it is a concept which objectively exists.

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 7 років тому +11

    A White person is not a Yellow person the same way a Polar Bear is not a Panda Bear. A White Person is not the same as a Red person the same way a Polar Bear is not a American Black Bear. A White Person is not a Brown Person the same way a Polar Bear is not a Sloth Bear. A White Person is not a Black Person the same way a Polar Bear is not a Sun Bear. I can make more examples but I think you get it.

    • @mtl9441
      @mtl9441 7 років тому +19

      matthew mann except those species of bear can't breed offspring while people regardless of color can reproduce without any problems.

    • @mathewdaniel5467
      @mathewdaniel5467 6 років тому

      matthew mann
      In nature they're separated speices with different behaviors adopted to different environments, although they are still peers, God will punish race mixers.

    • @salc8870
      @salc8870 6 років тому +6

      Humans all over the earth are of one species capable of interbreeding. Those are distinct species of bear. Therefore, your analogy is false.

    • @LonelyGuitarKid
      @LonelyGuitarKid 5 років тому +4

      @@salc8870 all domesticated dogs can reproduce with each other therefore the concept of breeds is useless.

    • @salc8870
      @salc8870 5 років тому +1

      The concept of breeds is distinct from the concept of species. A breed has unique characteristics that humans like in a given species and have selected. It's known as artificial selection. Eugenics would by definition be the attempt to breed humans according to certain characteristics that are seen as favorable or good.

  • @user-qn4gv1rk4t
    @user-qn4gv1rk4t 3 місяці тому

    Yes/ NO

  • @nichoalsnastari8335
    @nichoalsnastari8335 4 роки тому +4

    We’re all the same

    • @mariussielcken
      @mariussielcken 4 роки тому

      We belong to the same species because we can procreate with eachother.

    • @anotherpointofview222
      @anotherpointofview222 3 роки тому +1

      People are people. We're all different but we are all people. No two people are the same. No two are equal.

    • @mariussielcken
      @mariussielcken 3 роки тому

      @Sam Houston genetic heritage does not correspond with skin tone, so race in the classical does not. we all descend from Africans.

    • @roylangston4305
      @roylangston4305 3 роки тому

      Darwin says no.

    • @jocelyngonzalez3960
      @jocelyngonzalez3960 3 роки тому +1

      @Sam Houston how do you differentiate from two different races and what does it mean to you. Ever heard about exposure to the sun??

  • @CUZZINT
    @CUZZINT 5 років тому +2

    you need to cover or start with who is actually human and who is actually sub-human original vs gmo races

    • @MCPretzelM999
      @MCPretzelM999 5 років тому +9

      Genetically-modified organism races? What does that mean?

    • @stephenrochester6309
      @stephenrochester6309 4 роки тому +4

      MCPretzelM999
      It means he just smoked a biiiiig joint

  • @Sage93x
    @Sage93x 5 років тому

    Sounds a little "Uncle Tom-ish" to me

  • @overtonpendulum2071
    @overtonpendulum2071 2 роки тому +6

    Races exist. The idea that it doesn't is a politically motivated logical fallacy.

    • @angelicadayanafernandez1525
      @angelicadayanafernandez1525 2 роки тому

      @Racialist Slayer, are you a clown by any chance🤡

    • @LilReezy_1437
      @LilReezy_1437 2 місяці тому +1

      [Lol] That's like saying Schrödinger's cat exist.

    • @overtonpendulum2071
      @overtonpendulum2071 2 місяці тому +1

      @@LilReezy_1437 Saying race doesn't exist is saying heredity doesn't exist.

    • @LilReezy_1437
      @LilReezy_1437 2 місяці тому +2

      @@overtonpendulum2071Well, it's not like you could use heritability as a factor anyway. High heritability is simply a correlation between child and parents, it does not describe the causes of heritability which in humans can be either cuz of lifestyle choices genetics or environmental factors {see "cultural"-epigenetics and developmental plasticity}. Therefore, a high heritability measure does not imply that a trait is genetic or unchangeable. In addition, environmental factors that affect all group members equally will not be measured by heritability, and the heritability of a trait may also change over time in response to changes in the distribution of genetic and environmental factors {see clinal variation}. Subsequently, providing any kind of absolute racial proof becomes little more than speculation based on random data {see missing heritability problem}. Or in layman's terms: Race. {...} is hypothetical.

    • @overtonpendulum2071
      @overtonpendulum2071 2 місяці тому

      @@LilReezy_14371. Is there human biodiversity or are human generic clones?
      2. Is HBD randomly distributed in all humans or does it come in clusters? 🤨 🤔

  • @kelleyknapp1499
    @kelleyknapp1499 5 років тому +4

    There is only one race. That is the human race. It doesn't matter the color of your skin. That is not race. There are dog races,horse races foot races, bicycle races.
    I do not think the color of your skin or the shape of your eyes or anything else is a race. We all have the same Anatomy do we have to live with.

    • @jocelyngonzalez3960
      @jocelyngonzalez3960 3 роки тому

      People will always differentiate themselves from others because we consciously COMPARE OURSELVES to those around us. Whether we give out more energy than your partner or siblings while doing more work around the house or as growing adults we compare ourselves to other online or in our realm

  • @Jamaal4Jesus
    @Jamaal4Jesus 6 років тому +3

    We are all descendants of Adam and Eve. Born again Christians are born from above.

    • @702boi
      @702boi 5 років тому

      Jamaal Williams ehh Idk about all that but I will say yes we are all human. It doesn’t matter what “race” we are.

    • @CayeDaws
      @CayeDaws 5 років тому

      Lol.

  • @mattnewman12345
    @mattnewman12345 6 років тому +4

    This brother hasn't mastered the relatively simple English language, forget about the complexities of advanced white discoveries in the field of genetics.