Jim Cornette on If Paul Heyman Could Fix AEW

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2022
  • From Episode 274 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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  • @nssatomic
    @nssatomic Рік тому +462

    Heyman could turn AEW around, but first he'd have to defeat final boss Chris Jericho.

    • @markcampbell2702
      @markcampbell2702 Рік тому +67

      Oh lord...at this point, that would be a multi phase boss fight....Tony Khan phase 1, Jericho phase 2, 3, and 4.....EVP's phase 5

    • @undertakernumberone1
      @undertakernumberone1 Рік тому +77

      "Brock! Get him!"

    • @DaggerPrince
      @DaggerPrince Рік тому +12

      Maybe Paul would ask for help from the Aliens.

    • @Ghost-Face420
      @Ghost-Face420 Рік тому +8

      Man I love these comments😂

    • @robertnapier624
      @robertnapier624 Рік тому +10

      Battle of the bloats?

  • @ProjectDevilEye
    @ProjectDevilEye Рік тому +262

    If AEW's people won't listen to Jim Ross they won't listen to Paul E.

    • @jeepernj99
      @jeepernj99 Рік тому +9

      Good point

    • @JoeR203
      @JoeR203 Рік тому +19

      Paul would have to go in like Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse: "It's my way, or the highway." Then he can bring in Terry Funk and tell him "Morgan, you're outta here. Take the train."

    • @DarkBlueBaker
      @DarkBlueBaker Рік тому +11

      If they won't listen to William Regal, 🤷 too

    • @mikefrost1312
      @mikefrost1312 Рік тому +4

      Jim Ross doesn't have a beast, a Samoan dynasty and a dozen hardcore legends behind him either 🤷 they do share Austin though 🤣

    • @ProjectDevilEye
      @ProjectDevilEye Рік тому +4

      @@mikefrost1312 JR is one of the top respected names in the business, any old school wrestling fan will immediately think "Good old JR" along with the late great Mean Gene Okerlund and Gorilla Monsoon. You can't tell me if you weren't offered advice from one of the legends of the business itself you wouldn't listen to every word they say.

  • @SwagAli
    @SwagAli Рік тому +280

    Tony will never give up creative control. He literally financed AEW just so he could turn his efed into a real wrestling promotion.

    • @frankE91210
      @frankE91210 Рік тому +36

      AEW is just 40 year old man-child TK playing with his toys

    • @dankelly5150
      @dankelly5150 Рік тому +6

      **JIM** could fix AEW !!

    • @ecwwrestling
      @ecwwrestling Рік тому

      Yep, it's not run like a business, because it doesn't have to be. Similar to WCW which was run more like a subsidiary "brand" not funded on merit but on how much Turner was willing to spend on it. Vanity project, loss leader. That would be okay, but it is unfortunate when every promoter out there is a psychotic arrogant control freak about it.

    • @JW-vl5or
      @JW-vl5or Рік тому +7

      He should atleast bring his two e-fed friends in. Let them run Rampage

    • @scottbreon9448
      @scottbreon9448 Рік тому +7

      The fact that he was still efedding in his 30s speaks volumes. LOL. I quit doing that shit when I was like 20. LOL

  • @mattypaul87
    @mattypaul87 Рік тому +490

    At this rate, the catering crew could run the show better than Tony.

    • @OscarRamirez-vt4sm
      @OscarRamirez-vt4sm Рік тому +37

      Plot twist: they've been running it all year...

    • @Forever_Thatter
      @Forever_Thatter Рік тому +27

      with the Head Janitor as General Manager.

    • @mattypaul87
      @mattypaul87 Рік тому +50

      @@OscarRamirez-vt4sm Nah catering is usually more organized and doesn't have staff going into business for themselves by replacing the chicken with burnt tofu.

    • @markcampbell2702
      @markcampbell2702 Рік тому +16

      At this point....the part time security team could give us something more memorable than Tony Khan

    • @greghuffman3061
      @greghuffman3061 Рік тому +15

      Theyre too pissed at him for destroying all of their tables

  • @joleree1
    @joleree1 Рік тому +141

    Only a short time ago the Punk/MJF feud was on fire. Wardlow was building. Bryan Danielson was having stellar matches, FTR we're in TV and Malakai Black was fearsome and scary.
    Goddamn you tiny Con for giving me hope.

    • @bryansansone3301
      @bryansansone3301 Рік тому +16

      You pretty much hit every single thing that immediately comes to my mind, as well.

    • @ladistar
      @ladistar Рік тому +9

      cm punk buried AEW with the media scrum

    • @cameroncrisamore2871
      @cameroncrisamore2871 Рік тому +42

      @@ladistarnot his fault for telling the truth 🤷‍♂️ blame the EVPs

    • @hmdwgf
      @hmdwgf Рік тому

      And… the Elite come along and bury all those people except MJF.

    • @ThaTruth223
      @ThaTruth223 Рік тому

      @@cameroncrisamore2871 both parties are dickheads for that whole situation

  • @msmjsiajdgdhsjajahgshsjaje8990
    @msmjsiajdgdhsjajahgshsjaje8990 Рік тому +95

    The way they all went at JR after he tried to give valuable critism none of these indy trampoline marks or death match marks would listen to paul heyman

    • @TheMrAlgoh
      @TheMrAlgoh Рік тому +14

      Meanwhile, The Evps and Death Triangle are doing gymnastic routines inside Jim Ross's locker room to spite him as he sits there sighing..

    • @bootneyfarnsworth2844
      @bootneyfarnsworth2844 Рік тому

      The funny thing about all of that is that u can still the EVPs do their thing. As long as u put other things that are better around it. U could have something for everyone. But, they are afraid of people seeing through what they do and instead of looking at it as a positive for the company they are threatened and resort to the whole we started the revolution and u are just riding our coattails schtick

    • @stephano1019
      @stephano1019 Рік тому +3

      Bro.. They really gonna treat JR like how Vince treated him in WWE?

    • @TheMrAlgoh
      @TheMrAlgoh Рік тому +14

      @@stephano1019 except its 10x worst. The few people he hated in WWE were Vince, Dunn and Ace. All the wrestlers in WWF at the time respected Jim and took his advice, now most of the AEW roster treats him like an afterthought and Adam Page is their poster child of not taking advice. He sounds so miserable most of the time on AEW commentary.

    • @stephano1019
      @stephano1019 Рік тому +2

      @@TheMrAlgoh I can imagine. Well AEW is gonna reap what they sow which might happen in 1 or two years

  • @SonnyK248
    @SonnyK248 Рік тому +50

    I sometimes wonder what would have happened if WCW had hired Paul Heyman instead of Vince Russo. Imagine that version of Heyman who doesn’t have to worry about finances or the threat of every talent he builds into a star walking away from him. This was basically what held ECW back from becoming a true powerhouse.

    • @antology7
      @antology7 Рік тому +7

      Best “what-if” I’ve ever heard.

    • @Lunacyk
      @Lunacyk Рік тому +8

      That and he would need Gabe Sapolsky and a few others to shadow him. Fully financed or not, Paul CANNOT do it by himself. People forget, it wasn't just the bounced checks. He was running himself into the ground. Gabe did the same in ROH's golden era. But you've gotta have a support system and a safety net, as it would be national television.

    • @SonnyK248
      @SonnyK248 Рік тому +2

      @@Lunacyk Well yeah in this instance Paul would only be in charge of creative. And when Russo came over he took Ed Ferrara with him so I'm guessing Paul would be able to bring guys with him too. It would be like when he was in charge of Smackdown. Which funny enough was built around him booking legends like The Undertaker and superstars like Brock but also elevating the Guerrero, Benoit, Edge and Rey Mysterio into main eventers which is just what WCW needed at that time. They had the young talent like Rey, AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, The Natural Born Thrillers stable had some solid raw talents. Plus he could have just gone to ECW and signed RVD and a bunch of other stars as that place was about to shut down. Paul was an expert at taking chicken shit and making chicken salad out of it about as well as anyone has ever done, especially back then. Imagine him working with Sting, Goldberg, Booker T, Steiner, Flair etc. Even guys like Kanyon, Konan, Vampiro and Bagwell would have been interesting in a Paul Heyman environment. Basically if you could do one or two things well, Paul could make you a star. Look, promo, wrestling skills. If you were good at two or even just really good at one he could find a way to get you over.

    • @M-E_123
      @M-E_123 Рік тому +7

      Wouldn't change anything - Warner AOL wanted out of wrestling because it didn't fit their brand. Even if ratings had held up the executive's didn't want WCW on their Network anymore - allegedly WCW was still profitable when they sold it all to Vince for $1, that's how bad they wanted it gone. Hayman being the booker wouldn't have changed their minds.

    • @decepticonxhunter4850
      @decepticonxhunter4850 Рік тому +3

      The over the top swearing and borderline pornographic production had a whole lot to do with ECW not becoming bigger as much as the lack of money and stars going to greener pastures.

  • @ChrisManley1994
    @ChrisManley1994 Рік тому +21

    “He’s a few years younger than I am as I like to remind everybody.” Had to make sure he got that in there! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby Рік тому +96

    Given how they pushed back on Jim Ross for his criticisms I don't think he would even want to

    • @scrappy93
      @scrappy93 Рік тому +2

      Since Paul is a Dave Meltzer supplier of news they may listen to him.

    • @anonymousbo0318
      @anonymousbo0318 Рік тому

      @@scrappy93 You're a goof. You actually think that clown Meltzer has anyone in WWE actually speaking to him 🤣

    • @thejanglezclan
      @thejanglezclan Рік тому +5

      Jim Ross is one of the most overrated figures in wrestling history. Been involved in so much nonsense and never accepts any blame or accountability, even when he's been in positions of power. I know it fits the anti-AEW narrative to credit JR for being outspoken on that company, but he hasn't cared to learn the wrestler's names or the show titles. He's just collecting a check at this point and it's obvious.

    • @nickcastronovo1358
      @nickcastronovo1358 Рік тому

      @@Kalbuir66 kids ji

    • @gullyblanchard5750
      @gullyblanchard5750 Рік тому

      @@thejanglezclan boo hoo. I bet you were meat riding JR when AEW first acquired him and are now crying about it since it didn’t work out.

  • @1972Russianwolf
    @1972Russianwolf Рік тому +61

    You hit the nail on the head..... "If they'd listen to him"

    • @TheRuns2
      @TheRuns2 Рік тому +6

      They'd listen to him. And many of them wouldn't realize they did.

  • @Jay_76
    @Jay_76 Рік тому +91

    "Could Paul Heyman Fix AEW?"
    No, but Heyman would convince people he could.

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 Рік тому +5

      Regal and Punk bailed out on Tony. Heyman could make Tony the Ultimate Mark!! Thank the good Lord $#it$tain doesn't try it.

    • @markcampbell2702
      @markcampbell2702 Рік тому +16

      I'm inclined to agree with Corny.....if Tony Khan gave Heyman the booking role, stayed out of the way, and gave absolutely zero pushback unless network execs said something that was detrimental to the tv product...I think Heyman could right the ship. But I'll be honest with myself....it's a pipe dream, it'll never happen. Every single opportunity AEW had to push ahead of WWE has been squandered. It's outright offensive that AEW had everything handed to them on a silver platter and chose not to take advantage.

    • @TimeBomb014X
      @TimeBomb014X Рік тому +1

      @@markcampbell2702 plus you know Paul would ask an owning share of the company

    • @DragONheart27X
      @DragONheart27X Рік тому +1

      I agree. People seem to forget he was in charge of RAW around 2018-20 if I remember. It was different but I wouldn't say it's better. I do know The House of Black would be the top faction there lol.

  • @jeritobabilla3843
    @jeritobabilla3843 Рік тому +15

    Paul heyman is comfortable where he is, part of the biggest storyline, on tv every week and most importantly doesn’t even have to use his gift of gab. He doesn’t need the stress that comes with all elite.

  • @Boudica234
    @Boudica234 Рік тому +15

    Imagine Jim and Paul running AEW. God that would be epic. Of course it would NEVER happen because Tony will NEVER give up creative control. But I can dream.

  • @thejoshandcharles1
    @thejoshandcharles1 Місяць тому +4

    I'm listening to this a year later. Still holds up.

  • @convictionnotice1
    @convictionnotice1 Рік тому +10

    I don't know why people backstage fantasy book for AEW. AEW has (or had) Jim Ross, the veteran wrestling minds of Dean Malenko, Jake the Snake, Dustin Rhodes, Big Show, Mark Henry, CM Punk, and William Regal. Not to mention, Jim Cornette literally giving away advice on his podcast for FREE. And Khan STILL books the way he does and allows guys like the Elite and Hangman ignore advice and "wrestle" according to their vision. Nothing will help AEW until Khan humbles himself and listens to common sense.

    • @stephano1019
      @stephano1019 Рік тому +2

      Don't forget Sting. He's been around for the highs and lows of wrestling companies like being around the the highs of WCW and the lows as well as TNA.

  • @dman9152
    @dman9152 11 місяців тому +3

    The smackdown 6 is paul heyman's greatest work.

  • @Hyde_Hill
    @Hyde_Hill Рік тому +22

    Gabe Sapolsky would probably have been a better pick. As with what he did with ROH shows he can keep the indy crowd happy, while his ECW and WWE experience can help with the mainstream fans. Seems they missed their chance as he resigned in September.

  • @hartfoundationhq
    @hartfoundationhq Рік тому +19

    Sounds great of a what-if for Paul Heyman. But look at the other vets that AEW brought in and they got ignored. Paul would in time get the exact same treatment by the Hardly Boys, with the same bad press written about him by Uncle Dave.

  • @JDotWill
    @JDotWill Рік тому +44

    It’d be interesting to see how he’d coexist with the EVPs.

    • @Lunacyk
      @Lunacyk Рік тому +5

      Push them out! They do good business or get gone! And knowing Heyman and his hustling ability and connects? The EVPs will be M.I.A. in no time!

    • @Let_The_World_Burn
      @Let_The_World_Burn Рік тому +7

      He'd fire them the first day more than likely

    • @vodkagal28
      @vodkagal28 Рік тому +2

      He wouldn't.

    • @cabutler1
      @cabutler1 Рік тому +6

      Paul would drop an ultimatum. Get in line or get out. He will not take that kind of BS.

    • @iceman-hw7kb
      @iceman-hw7kb Рік тому +2

      he would fired the evps

  • @Debrody1
    @Debrody1 Рік тому +31

    Paul Heyman is the best. I remember Wrestlemania 3 when he beat The Macho Man for the intercontinental title. It was a small package. He then teamed with the British Bulldogs to defeat The Hart Foundation and crooked referee Mike Chioda. He returned for the main event to slam hulk hogan with special referee Andre The Giant. His beautiful speech at the end of the night when he grabbed the mic and yelled, "Yo Adrian, I've done it. Wooooooo."

    • @kingsportsone3613
      @kingsportsone3613 Рік тому +4

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @SpiralPoliFemboy
      @SpiralPoliFemboy Рік тому +4

      I remember when he was bleeding in the Sharpshooter and wouldn't quit.
      And the time he took 10 singapore cane shots to the back from Sandman as the fans watched in horror and he gained their respect.
      Let's not forget when he won the 2004 Royal Rumble from the entrant one spot.

    • @robintst
      @robintst Рік тому +1

      Just don't let it distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.

    • @RAZERDsXe
      @RAZERDsXe Рік тому

      No, no that's Paul E if Russo was booking him

    • @Methodius93
      @Methodius93 Рік тому

      🤣😅

  • @mikefrost1312
    @mikefrost1312 Рік тому +6

    If Paul even showed up on AEW as nothing more than talent to manage someone & cut promo's, the ratings would blow ! Paul is Gold & he knows what he's doing. Especially with wrestling

  • @ck_idgaf1680
    @ck_idgaf1680 Рік тому +38

    Exactly, Paul would have to be motivated. He has always said, "Vince motivates me". He love getting over the guys they say can't get over, being a "heyman guy" means he goes to bat for you bts and on-camera. I don't know if he would be motivated, he liked helping Vince, I don't think he sees Tony Khan the same way. Plus he's looking to retire at some point he said.

    • @socialistbatman1211
      @socialistbatman1211 Рік тому +1

      Curtis Axel looked like he had some promise with Heyman

    • @coreyhall1150
      @coreyhall1150 Рік тому

      @@socialistbatman1211 Even Heyman can't help you if you have absolutely NO personality what-so ever. 90 percent is on YOU. The other 10 percent they can handle but at the end of the day it's on YOU to get whatever over.

    • @jimbowlan5804
      @jimbowlan5804 Рік тому +1

      Vince did help ecw keep afloat for a little longer

  • @frankdeblasio1109
    @frankdeblasio1109 Рік тому +80

    Happy Holidays Jim and Brian! Thanks for always keeping me entertained!

  • @dadgonegamer2654
    @dadgonegamer2654 Рік тому +10

    I think Paul E. from the early 2000’s Smackdown days could turn AEW into a money printer.

  • @MadCaril
    @MadCaril Рік тому +89

    Paul can't fix it. AEW has an issue that is plaguing the whole industry - "wrestlers" that have the emotional fortitude of a teenager and are bad actors and just keep diving around the ring.

  • @Simouno
    @Simouno Рік тому +19

    Heyman would help, a lot. But what AEW lacks is a level of seriousness from the workers than only a complete overhaul of the roster could revert especially when it comes to the top stars. MJF is the exception, the elite is the trend in that company and i think if tomorrow Tony Khan would have the guts to cut ties with them, everything would improve overnight since the boys would have better examples to look up on rather than people who go to business for themselves at the expense of the betterment of the company they work for

  • @mattyf8604
    @mattyf8604 Рік тому +21

    AEW is a wrestling company owned by a huge mark and that's the problem

    • @matthewroller5412
      @matthewroller5412 Рік тому +2

      Yeah to me AEW is doomed it is just a matter of when and not if Politics are always gonna run wild there based on who Tony likes and doesn't like rather then what is best for business and he will never give up creative its the whole reason he started the company he has talked alot about how he used to book for years with his Efed online. He also for some reason thinks he is good at Pr and does too much press only to not anwser most questions people actually want to know its just not good all around I wouldn't be surprised if they are losing tens of millions or more yearly they are not making money its sustaining off of Tony Khans money he gets from his dad on his personal account not money AEW has made.

    • @scottbreon9448
      @scottbreon9448 Рік тому +1

      He's basically Dixie Carter with a penis, only difference is that Tony never hired Shitstain

    • @mattyf8604
      @mattyf8604 Рік тому

      @@scottbreon9448 dude i spat my damn coffee reading this

  • @OllieByGolly
    @OllieByGolly Рік тому +45

    Two words: Smackdown Six
    When he was able to just book without having to worry about running the business end, Heyman established Smackdown as the "pro wrestling" show as opposed to Raw as the "sports entertainment" show. As far as I'm concerned, that brief era of Smackdown was just as much fun to watch as a wrestling fan as Ric Flair's booking run in 1989 WCW.

    • @nathanguffey4204
      @nathanguffey4204 Рік тому +4

      Ya but Brian is the only one in AEW with the talent, experience and personality of any of those 6.

    • @MrBlazemaster525
      @MrBlazemaster525 Рік тому +7

      There are no 6 guys in Hacksonville with the combined cred of just Chavo, never mind the rest of the OG Six

    • @edewence3797
      @edewence3797 Рік тому +2

      Agreed.... But Heyman could of still built an actually compelling show around:
      1. Bryan
      2. Punk
      3. Miro
      4. MJF
      5. Starks
      6. Hobbes
      HM: Ethan Page, Adam Page, Darby Allin
      Where the less established guys could get more over instead of less over with good storylines.
      Add credible jobbers who look good and can work (eg.Tony Nese, Andrade) and a tag team division that makes sense.
      That could have been a good 2 hour show each week.

    • @nathanguffey4204
      @nathanguffey4204 Рік тому +1

      @@edewence3797 see the think with Paul is 1 ECW which is him hiding the short comings of all the guys and made the most out of a limited budget. TK already is trying to make AEW and new Japan ECW
      Hybrid because that’s his favorite. With the other being the smackdown 6 shoes that had a Vince filter like the attitude Era with Shitstain. Paul would at this stage of his life, if he where to give up on his WWE cushy job milk TK for all the money he could like most of the people in AEW.

    • @vb2806
      @vb2806 Рік тому +3

      @@edewence3797 that is not gonna draw, you need larger than life people, not Punk and Bryan

  • @Renodrums-vq8nv
    @Renodrums-vq8nv Рік тому +3

    I gotta say, Paul Heymans smackdown was my favorite smackdown era.

  • @wilcee238
    @wilcee238 Рік тому +12

    All Petite “Wrestling” could hire Paul Heyman Paul Levesque and Paul Hogan and it wouldn’t change a damn thing. Tony Khan is a mark who doesn’t listen, who hires marks like Hangma’am Page who don’t listen. Regal admitted as much.

    • @tonedover
      @tonedover Рік тому +1

      Crocodile Dundee??

    • @wilcee238
      @wilcee238 Рік тому +1

      @tonedover The one and only.

    • @planexshifter
      @planexshifter Рік тому

      @@tonedover Like Crocodile Dundee wasn't a bad ass......

    • @thelastmotel
      @thelastmotel Рік тому

      All Effete Wrestling*

  • @alexandru5369
    @alexandru5369 Рік тому +7

    Yeah this question is actually a huge example of a massive problem wrestling has had for decades i.e. severely overelying on past guys (obviously i know Heyman is around but he's not exactly a spring chicken) constantly. Wrestling is dead mainstream because of looking too the past and not building for a future hence the multitude of issues wrestling has now. Fans are also part of the problem i.e. "I miss the AE, the 80's, Oh look Austin came back" etc.

    • @MyMediaConsulting
      @MyMediaConsulting Рік тому +1

      The stories were better in the 1980's but that required a thin veneer of Kayfabe. Watching some of the "best of" matches on Peacock opened my eyes to the reality of the matches.
      Go back and watch Flair vs. Harley Race, Flair vs. Sting, or most of the 1980s stuff. It is boring in an age of MMA. It was even boring for the time. The Road Warriors popped so hard because they were fast aggressive and completely different.
      The matches of the 1980s would flop hard in the modern age. Yet, a lot of fans still hold those matches as holy.

  • @specialeffox
    @specialeffox Рік тому +4

    I want to love AEW, I truly do. They have provided so many great moments and memorable matches for me, as well as given me a newfound love for wrestling at this stage in my life, but it is feeling more and more like a disconnect these days. Ever since Miro dropped the strap to Sammy, it's kinda never felt the same....

  • @digitalmarketinghumans
    @digitalmarketinghumans Рік тому +3

    I love the thumbnail and how Heyman looks here. Hahaha!

  • @greghuffman3061
    @greghuffman3061 Рік тому +7

    Apparently Jim Ross taught Heyman a lot about how you run a wrestling tv show

    • @kylehayden4885
      @kylehayden4885 Рік тому +2

      Yeah I remember hearing that Ross was a big mentor to him during their wcw days in the early 90s

    • @kwizzeh
      @kwizzeh 2 місяці тому

      Paul makes it no secret that his mentors in WCW were Dusty and Jim Ross

  • @Epsilonsama
    @Epsilonsama Рік тому +3

    Paul Heyman, George Scott, Eddie Graham, Pat Paterson and Dusty Rhodes could all be working in AEW and TK would still want to have the book.

    • @maynardperalta3188
      @maynardperalta3188 Рік тому

      HE’S THE BOOKER OF THE YEAR! How hard is that for you to understand?

  • @XombieLejon66
    @XombieLejon66 Рік тому +4

    Nothing will fix AEW except for giving Kenny and the Cucamonga Clown Brigade the boot

    • @jd9119
      @jd9119 Рік тому +1

      They need to make a rule "you do a flippy move and you're canned."

  • @SlipperyGoulet
    @SlipperyGoulet Рік тому +13

    Such a good episode

    • @undertakerfanz628
      @undertakerfanz628 Рік тому +1

      Jake Stone Jake The Snake from Stone mountain Georgia is that where the name came from?

  • @nubreaks2
    @nubreaks2 Рік тому +1

    Paul had a full roster with ECW, so he can handle one. And he was able to make the product interesting. I never was bored with that promotion, even when the major stars like Taz, Sabu, and Shane Douglas left. Just don't let Paul handle money or business.
    As far as what the product would look like, you probably did not watch or follow ECW. He provided what the people wanted. It was not all weapons all the time. It had great technical matches, brought Lucha Libre to America, had highflyers, Japanese Strong Style, traditional wrassling, and other forms and the ECW crowd ate it up giving "This is awesome!" chants to all of them. Remember, New Jack left SMW and went to become the most popular wrestler in ECW. That's what Paul E can do.

  • @vinylhorror
    @vinylhorror Рік тому +2

    I would actually LOVE to see what Paul Heyman could do with AEW. Obviously it couldn’t be any worse, and only get better. Not sure he could turn it around and have it work for years to come but it would definitely be a watchable show for a while. Great question and dang I wanna see it happen

  • @kishoremb9809
    @kishoremb9809 Рік тому +19

    I think he can't fix it. Tony Khan hates when someone wants to tell him what should be done and he wants everyone to see his vision only. Vince even when at his most senile state had some flexibility in his thought process. The biggest problem with AEW is Tony Khan and the real problem is he can't fire himself!!

    • @stephano1019
      @stephano1019 Рік тому

      And yo know TK is a lost cause when even Vince on his worst day would be willing to receive advice or suggestions even if it meant he would reject t

    • @kishoremb9809
      @kishoremb9809 Рік тому +2

      @@stephano1019 WWE beat WCW not because they are the better product but because they are the better business. Vince had the common sense to put experienced people on positions of power and let youngsters at the time like the rock, stone cold, Undertaker etc be the face when WCW was relying on old heads like Hogan, macho man etc.

  • @MatthewHWise
    @MatthewHWise Рік тому +1

    I can imagine Paul Heyman saying:
    "Ladies and Gentleman my name is Paul Heyman and welcome... to All Extreme Wrestling!!!"

  • @exiaR2x78
    @exiaR2x78 Рік тому +6

    Its funny looking back, TNA had such a better roster then AEW at the time when TNA had a shot

    • @philloomer
      @philloomer Рік тому +2

      TNA was awesome even when it was shit, too bad wrestling "fans" shit on it at every opportunity

    • @exiaR2x78
      @exiaR2x78 Рік тому

      @@philloomer Im in NZ we only had TNA on tv here briefly when Hogan was there. It had a shot during that period to grow ircc more international tv markets opened up for TNA then too but the horrible booking killed the chance it had.
      AEW's current trend is leading that way too which is kinda sad.

    • @jeremiahclaussen3000
      @jeremiahclaussen3000 Рік тому +1

      Impact is better now than AEW. But no one sees it

  • @Riccardo-kw5dc
    @Riccardo-kw5dc Рік тому +14

    I love the way Jim talks about Heyman. You can feel the respect

    • @jamescollins4068
      @jamescollins4068 Рік тому +3

      I totally felt that! Its been long said they were equals in a sense never associated together & of different styles. This was a great Podcast I would recommend

    • @AsDfler12
      @AsDfler12 Рік тому +3

      true. he respects him but doesnt like or trust him.

  • @sigmablock
    @sigmablock Рік тому +1

    Tony Khan has legitimately some of the best veterans in the business working for him, like Jim Ross, Arn Anderson, Jerry Lynn, Mark Henry, Dean Malenko, Christopher Daniels, and now former employees like William Regal, he chose The Elite over all of them.
    The Elite have like at most a decade of wrestling experience, the actual veterans have worked in WWE, NWA, WCW, TNA, ROH, and some worked in the business for more than 2 decades.
    What's the point of hiring Paul Heyman if Tony doesn't have the balls to shelve The Elite in favor of veteran minds?

  • @ammagnolia
    @ammagnolia Рік тому +1

    10:54
    Jim showing Paul that respect made my heart grow three times bigger

  • @spookerredmenace3950
    @spookerredmenace3950 Рік тому +1

    merry Christmas Jim and Brian

  • @danthemancushecan
    @danthemancushecan Рік тому +9

    Absolutely, ANYONE booking AEW would be better at this point. I just watched the Friday 12/23/22 episode of Rampage and it was fucking ATROCIOUS!! That opening Battle Royal showed how much dreck and unnecessary trash that company has on the pay role. Something needs to happen because AEW is just awful.

    • @bootneyfarnsworth2844
      @bootneyfarnsworth2844 Рік тому +1

      Another Battle Royal? TK should be banned from using them for 2 years!!

    • @socialistbatman1211
      @socialistbatman1211 Рік тому +1

      So you’re the guy that’s giving that show it’s 1 viewer rating.

    • @danthemancushecan
      @danthemancushecan Рік тому

      @@socialistbatman1211 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
      @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Рік тому

      @@danthemancushecan Trash.

    • @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
      @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Рік тому +1

      @@bootneyfarnsworth2844 Wrestling as a whole needs a ban on battle royals (the Rumble can stay), ladders, and multi-man matches. For AT LEAST two years.

  • @FrankC71
    @FrankC71 Рік тому +3

    AEW should have a roster of 22, Back to basics like JCP had it

  • @christhornycroft3686
    @christhornycroft3686 Рік тому +19

    If Paul Heyman had had Tony Khan's father's money in 1994, ECW would have been formidable. They came along at just the right time for that era and inspired the Attitude Era in many ways. I'm sure Paul would do a better job than Tony, and after all these years, maybe he's mellowed out a bit on the more insane in ring stuff that ECW did back then. The promos and the storytelling in the early days of ECW, probably 1994-98 or so, was terrific because they still had the talent on their roster to do it. By 99, everyone, including Shane Douglas, their top heel, had left to make more money. But I think if Paul and Jim could coexist in a wrestling company, it would be terrific. Unfortunately, I think both of them would need people to manage the finances of the company, because both of them struggled with that.

    • @lsj6721
      @lsj6721 Рік тому

      That might be correct, but, I think, any other company (ECW or WCW) not WWE, will be a victim of its own success and will not survive on the modern time

    • @juicyfartsofjimcornette1154
      @juicyfartsofjimcornette1154 Рік тому +2

      Jim and Paul maybe bad at business, but at least they are not Lucha Underground.

    • @brandonselitetv1436
      @brandonselitetv1436 Рік тому

      @@juicyfartsofjimcornette1154 LU was more of Cinematic Wrestling promotion which worked just their contracts for hot garbage. I would've rather wrestle for Jim Cornette's SMW or maybe Heyman's ECW

    • @maynardperalta3188
      @maynardperalta3188 Рік тому

      @@brandonselitetv1436 what about Vince’s ECW?

    • @juicyfartsofjimcornette1154
      @juicyfartsofjimcornette1154 Рік тому +1

      @@brandonselitetv1436 - They also didn't have House Shows, and lacked on merchandise big time. And that is why Robert Rodriguez and especially Mark Burnett can go
      6th letter
      21st letter
      3rd letter
      11th letter
      themselves!

  • @randyruger9063
    @randyruger9063 Рік тому +8

    Paul has too good of a job right now. He isn't doing all the heavy lifting like he was with Brock. Some nights he doesn't even talk at all, just makes great facials while he lurking.

    • @toddkonrad2407
      @toddkonrad2407 Рік тому +3

      100%. Easiest job he could get at this point while still getting national tv time and paid. Gets along with the current regime and can probably cherry pick who he wants to manage on screen. That’s a lot to give up at his age, especially when AEW talent already doesn’t listen to Jim Ross or any of the other old school vets there.

    • @Dankbanana1
      @Dankbanana1 Рік тому

      Also isn''t he now like , 3rd or 4th in line to take over things if something happens to Hunter? Maybe even higher than that.

    • @randyruger9063
      @randyruger9063 Рік тому +1

      @@Dankbanana1 Maybe on paper, but Stephanie would never allow Heyman to get into that spot lol.

  • @Mattjw24
    @Mattjw24 3 місяці тому

    I love how Tony is smiling in every artwork, no matter the context. 😂

  • @rl318
    @rl318 Рік тому +12

    Heyman did a lot with almost no roster in ECW at times due to various factors, so creatively, Heyman could make something out of nothing. People would have to be on board, and many in AEW are so sure of their style that it would never mesh.

    • @EazyE11
      @EazyE11 Рік тому +3

      Except that he didn't pay them.

    • @silasclayton7777
      @silasclayton7777 Рік тому +3

      ​@@EazyE11well, at least if he's playing with the Khan's money he won't stiff the boys?

    • @micahjohnsonboxing6409
      @micahjohnsonboxing6409 Рік тому +2

      ECW roster was miles ahead of AEW, they just constantly left.

    • @ecwwrestling
      @ecwwrestling Рік тому

      @@EazyE11 He wouldn't have to be the one paying them with a billionaire backing them in the ultimate point. They also agreed to work for free.

    • @rl318
      @rl318 Рік тому

      @@EazyE11 Heyman was never a money guy and was said to have a gambling problem, so he would not be given free-reign with money. The fact that Heyman got people to work without paying them on time (if at all) would work in AEwWs favor because Tony Khan has the opposite issue where he is paying people not to show up and work.

  • @taylorsmith9629
    @taylorsmith9629 9 місяців тому

    The way Travis draws Tony and Heyman here it’s just perfect

  • @atodamadre3197
    @atodamadre3197 Рік тому +1

    I always cut the video clips off when you guys start with the sponsors nonsense except for Stephen p new because the jingle reminds me of my childhood growing up in Texas

  • @henrikschmidt3964
    @henrikschmidt3964 Рік тому +1

    Heyman has had several succesful 'runs' as a booker. I would certainly take a chance on him if it was on the table.
    I would be excited to see him do more than just be a manager.

  • @wrestlingwithjay3770
    @wrestlingwithjay3770 Рік тому +1

    Happy Holidays!!! ❤💚🎄

  • @lovelywaz
    @lovelywaz Рік тому +2

    Two things!
    1) At this stage, why the heck would he even bother. Specially knowing how bad die-hard fans of AEW can be/already are.
    2) He would demand/want/need total control (creative at least) and that's simply not gonna happen
    He is better in WWE right now, hardly doing much and (hopefully) getting paid handsomely!

  • @brianlogan4243
    @brianlogan4243 Рік тому +2

    Tony sees it as HIS wrestling world and he would NEVER let anyone lese control it. Its the very same issue VKM had. AEW is Tony Kahn's favorite toy and no one else gets to play with it. Maybe if his father gets mad at him, instead of being grounded, he lets someone else run AEW.

  • @Hedgehobbit
    @Hedgehobbit Рік тому +2

    As long as the wrestlers can all veto stroylines because of their creative control, then no one can book AEW in any coherent fashion.

  • @AHeroAlmost
    @AHeroAlmost Рік тому +2

    TK will never let anyone else even have a small bit of creative control incase it ever proved him wrong …

    • @adrianalog
      @adrianalog Рік тому

      He is such a arrogant man, really hate listening to him, such an ego manic,

  • @MrItzreal
    @MrItzreal Рік тому +2

    15:30 to 16:10 Had me dead! LOL

  • @thelastape7736
    @thelastape7736 Рік тому +2

    If Paul had that financial backing in the ECW days who knows where that could have went because he had the talented wrestlers.

  • @youngzeus87
    @youngzeus87 Рік тому +1

    Ok I want this now, SD 6 was 20 years ago. Paul E had two decades rest. It's time...

  • @justmarcus33
    @justmarcus33 Місяць тому +1

    based on paul's hall of fame speech, maybe he was blowing smoke, but I think he's at this point in his life very happy with where he is -- he respects HHH, likes are things are being run, likely has alot of say backstage the headache that would come from "fixing AEW" is prob just not worth it to him

  • @ItsTrinton
    @ItsTrinton Рік тому

    The only positive thing I could say about Heyman going to AEW is he wouldn't go broke the same way (buying tv time).
    His on screen talent should not be confused for his ability to run a wrestling company and if he went to AEW almost nothing would be different. Largely it's the same model as ECW already: the roster is built the same way, the "top" talent is given a free hand to do what they want, some of the boys are doing "office" work. I'm sure if can be described better then I am but Heyman is a better agent polishing a thing then creative running it.
    Dixie not giving up a piece of TNA is just a story, probably that Heyman came up with. In the fall out with Billy Corgan we found out there were pieces all over town. My speculation is that Paul came up with that story to baby face himself while he was never really in consideration on the other side. Instead is was probably offered something lower like a place on the creative "team" and that's what he turned down if he was ever even offered it.

  • @thebigz3786
    @thebigz3786 Рік тому +1

    Just let that promotion bleed and die. Rather start from scratch with another promotion instead of prolonging the life of a cesspool of a promotion.

  • @davidowen6625
    @davidowen6625 Рік тому +1

    Paul would make Tony say "ACKNOWLEDGE ME!!!"

  • @sarkissamuel
    @sarkissamuel Рік тому +2

    Forget Paul, hire Jim Cornette. He doesnt even need to leave his house. Use him on speaker phone in creative meetings.

    • @grant1739
      @grant1739 Рік тому

      Yeah he'd want them to wrassle like it's 1983

    • @wilcee238
      @wilcee238 Рік тому +6

      @grant1739 you mean when wrestling drew money? Simpleton.

    • @vb2806
      @vb2806 Рік тому +5

      @@grant1739 so with logic and not breaking their body for a cheap pop

    • @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
      @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Рік тому

      TK tried to hire him. Corny flatly refused the job, partly because of who else Tony hired but mainly because he doesn't want to work for anyone but himself.

  • @JayWhiteMadden
    @JayWhiteMadden Рік тому

    The art for this one is hilarious! 😂

  • @standardofexcellence
    @standardofexcellence Місяць тому

    Paul heyman's birthday is 6 days before jim

  • @Stubby1085
    @Stubby1085 2 місяці тому

    One of the nicer things Jim has said about anyone. He basically said yes Paul could have done it at one point.

  • @4cuttime
    @4cuttime Рік тому +4

    Lmao @ "he is a few years younger than I am as i like to remind everybody. " Cornette is mess 😂

  • @TDrewCook
    @TDrewCook Рік тому

    Merry Christmas fellas

  • @ryanbrantley3648
    @ryanbrantley3648 Рік тому

    God bless Steven P. New segments!

  • @willmarkley4237
    @willmarkley4237 Рік тому +1

    Heyman may bring an old friend back... CM Punk.

  • @ratedmgamer9819
    @ratedmgamer9819 Рік тому +2

    The presentation of AEW is a reflection of a boss that doesn't enforce rules or standards. That's what AEW needs. A boss that actually put a stop to a lot of the circus, clownshow nonsense. Jericho and The Elite would be target #1.

  • @sterlingwillis8026
    @sterlingwillis8026 Рік тому +1

    Travis GREAT ART 🎨🎭

  • @xylsky1300
    @xylsky1300 Рік тому +1

    Paul would babyface himself and ask for half the company just so Tony can turn it down so he can say "welp, i tried" 😂

  • @thommytsunami
    @thommytsunami Рік тому

    I dunno why people ask questions about alternate universes that veer so much from reality. Like wondering what JCP would have been like if Magnum didn't have his accident is one thing. This one requires AEW to be something other than a company that exists to buy the owner friends while he plays fantasy booker on a grand scale and for Paul Heyman to be in a different place in life than he is. It's too much of an idealized scenario to be a worthwhile thought exercise.

  • @iamdb1990
    @iamdb1990 Рік тому

    my head hurts from the Stephen P New spot, Jim was all over the place on that one lol

    • @impalaman9707
      @impalaman9707 Рік тому

      BUM--BA-DA-DA-DUM...BA-DA-DA-DUM!🤣🤣🤣

  • @kvinche8120
    @kvinche8120 Рік тому +1

    I cant believe Paul is that young lol

  • @christophermusso
    @christophermusso Рік тому

    Thought Jim would've gone with either "sue the spots off a leopard" or "sue the stripes off a zebra".

  • @oliverpearson8361
    @oliverpearson8361 Рік тому +1

    That Steven p. New ad he cut at the end was awesome 🤣🤣🤣

  • @smsv2806
    @smsv2806 Рік тому

    Honestly, Heyman is better on camera than behind the scenes if we go off recent events…

  • @lomaudit9674
    @lomaudit9674 Місяць тому

    If I could get Tony's ear for 30 minutes, I could convince him to hire me as creative and I know, KNOW, I could get AEW back to the million viewer mark within 6 months.

  • @RIDGEMATIC
    @RIDGEMATIC Рік тому +1

    Heyman is fantastic IMO

  • @tywilder9697
    @tywilder9697 Рік тому

    I think without a shadow of a doubt Jim cornette is a genius when it comes to pro wrestling stuff

  • @Ai14106
    @Ai14106 Рік тому

    No, Tony is not going to pass his controller during his gm mode

  • @brandonperkins176
    @brandonperkins176 Рік тому

    Heyman has been in the business for years and I remember Cornette said about the deal with Dixie Carter, which he knew it was no good

  • @johannesnuka3908
    @johannesnuka3908 Рік тому

    Even if Tony gives somebody, anybody, full creative control, you have to wonder - would the wrestlers listen to the new guy?

  • @canigettawhatwhat
    @canigettawhatwhat Рік тому +1

    Paul can get punk back and set up one of the best storylines in history

  • @ANonymous-bq7wg
    @ANonymous-bq7wg Рік тому +1

    Paul Heyman would help a lot, but he has to want to help, and TK needs to let Paul run creative. Paul is tight with Triple H, and he liked working with Vince. He didn’t want to work with Dixie, so he gave her an outrageous offer so she’d turn him down. I can see TK giving Paul a small piece of the company, but the problem is that TK is living his childhood dream, and I don’t think that TK cares about whether it makes a profit, so I can’t see him giving Paul some power.

  • @DarkBlueBaker
    @DarkBlueBaker Рік тому

    I know not to put too much value into anything Bruce Prichard says and I know Paul is a slick salesman. I heard Bruce tell a story about spending an evening out with Paul in New York. From what Bruce said, it sounded like an interesting, crazy time and I would have loved to experienced that.
    On the topic of him running creative for AEW, I think he'd have some success but IMO, he's kinda to the point Jim is. I don't think you could really pay him enough money to deal with the children in AEW.

  • @mrdone4065
    @mrdone4065 Рік тому +3

    Paul Heyman could rectify a few things. He might even be able to get CM Punk to come back.

    • @sol_nb7143
      @sol_nb7143 Рік тому

      Why would you want somebody back that’s completely unhinged and physicaly assaults people?

    • @mrdone4065
      @mrdone4065 Рік тому

      @@sol_nb7143 are you talking about Vince?

    • @sol_nb7143
      @sol_nb7143 Рік тому

      @@mrdone4065 nah talking about Punk brudda

    • @sol_nb7143
      @sol_nb7143 Рік тому

      Well Vince too

  • @8Bitorbust
    @8Bitorbust Рік тому

    I think we just have to accept that what it is, is what it's going to be. Some Indy guys who somehow convinced just enough people that they rejected WWE and made their own show instead of owning that they're robbing a billionaire blind and couldn't hack it outside of a few guys.

  • @jaybee4288
    @jaybee4288 Рік тому

    No one single person has ever been able to fix a failing promotion. Bischoff didn’t fix impact, Jim didn’t fix ROH, JR didn’t fix AEW. The only guy that would make a difference is vince McMahon because he’d hire the right people in the right spots.

  • @SRG1966
    @SRG1966 Рік тому +1

    I always thought Vince should've handed WCW to Heyman when he bought it and given him creative control, with WWE controlling the budget. He couldve done a ECW/WCW invasion angle the right way and still given WWE the competition they needed to keep them fresh.

    • @decepticonxhunter4850
      @decepticonxhunter4850 Рік тому

      There was virtually no better to execute that invasion angle when most of the talent on the WCW roster wasn't ready to be in front of a WWE camera. All the creative talent in the world wasn't going to make those guys look better.

    • @SRG1966
      @SRG1966 Рік тому

      @@decepticonxhunter4850 which is why you keep WCW as a separate promotion and work an ECW invades WCW angle. Paul's revenge on the company that fired him kinda thing. And you'd have a combined roster that could compete.

    • @SRG1966
      @SRG1966 Рік тому

      @@decepticonxhunter4850 Booker T? Goldberg? Steiner? Keibler? DDP? Hall and Nash? They couldve done fine in the post austin/foley era.

  • @Smeeeeeghead
    @Smeeeeeghead Рік тому

    Yes, but Tony would never give it up.
    And even if Tony gave it up, the EVP's would never give up control.
    And if the Elite gave it up, I don't think a lot of the over the hill WWE guys like Jericho and Mox who have been put on a pedestal and pretty much get whatever they want would be very happy to take any kind of orders.

  • @marquesmorgan7297
    @marquesmorgan7297 Рік тому

    Yes! He'd be amazing

  • @rebal180
    @rebal180 Рік тому

    What AEW needs is someone that isn't a part of the status quo. Heyman would make Dynamite and Rampage exactly like RAW and SmackDown. Tony is already making those shows like Nitro and Thunder.