Arenas Fan Movie - Quake\Doom

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024

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  • @SubZeroMarineMegaMan
    @SubZeroMarineMegaMan Рік тому +17

    It's been 12 years and I still love this movie. It's just fucking glorious. That's my childhood, rewatching this beauty.

    • @SuperLeosid
      @SuperLeosid 5 місяців тому

      Same lol, I love visiting this in 2024.

  • @enclavehere.7995
    @enclavehere.7995 3 роки тому +65

    I honestly think this Doomguy is the most accurate representation of what I think the classic Doomguy’s personality. A shame this series hasn’t continued, because this is something I always wanted: a series focusing on Doomguy meeting and helping out other characters that ID created. Imagine if they made Season 2 and BJ Blazkowicz comes in as well? Then you’d have the ID trinity (Doomguy, Blazkowicz, and Ranger).

  • @jasonmcfadden3395
    @jasonmcfadden3395 2 роки тому +38

    This is still the best Doom movie. One day Joe Goss will return, and with all new software. And he'll blow us away. This is his baby, and he wont abandon it.

    • @DirectorGoss
      @DirectorGoss  2 роки тому +25

      Honestly, I'm waiting for Lumion Pro to accept bone animation rigging. Then I'll be revisiting it.

    • @larasynthwave5052
      @larasynthwave5052 Рік тому +6

      ​@@DirectorGoss OH MY GOD, HE IS ALIVE!!!!

    • @Inception1338
      @Inception1338 Рік тому +3

      ​@@DirectorGossany making of or documentation on how you did this? - the 1st person stuff is absolutely nuts. I whish I could play it like that.

    • @karlostorres7745
      @karlostorres7745 Рік тому +2

      I'm watching this right now while I'm working.

    • @yakusodrawsstuff
      @yakusodrawsstuff Рік тому +3

      here to re-watch this

  • @Soosisya
    @Soosisya 3 роки тому +50

    this is still better than the official movie

    • @okayboozy
      @okayboozy 2 роки тому +1

      You tallking about doom starring dwayne the rock johnson?

    • @madness5604
      @madness5604 Рік тому +3

      @@okayboozy Annihilation

    • @larasynthwave5052
      @larasynthwave5052 Рік тому +3

      The new one cant even compare!!

    • @chooky1413
      @chooky1413 Рік тому

      2005 is a great movie with mates... sadly agree with you on Doom Annihilation though@@larasynthwave5052

  • @guyg.8529
    @guyg.8529 6 місяців тому +3

    Rewatching it 10 years after first watch., after reminding the existence of the serie. Yep, it's good, i love it, it was a nice rewatch. It didn't age badly, even after all this time, especially for a small production. It's sad it didn't have the success of Red versus Blue, or something like that.

  • @1o98765rtg
    @1o98765rtg 8 років тому +83

    quake guy and doom guy in the same room is already sick af

    • @Agencyagent33
      @Agencyagent33 8 років тому +1

      Who was the Quake guy?

    • @1o98765rtg
      @1o98765rtg 8 років тому +2

      Agencyagent33 the guy with the helmet an the necklace thing

    • @michaelmtv
      @michaelmtv 8 років тому +3

      +sam spud Ranger I believe his name was

    • @GoldieMethrans
      @GoldieMethrans 8 років тому +3

      +Michael Tabbut
      He`s Ranger.

    • @th3lonef0x4
      @th3lonef0x4 7 років тому

      sam spud all we need now is BJ blaskavitce from wolfeinstien.

  • @Beta_Mixes
    @Beta_Mixes 2 роки тому +7

    This still holds up as one of the best movies I've ever saw together with EVE Online Clear Skies and Star Trek Specter...
    Thanks a lot once again for everyone involved.

  • @adnanchowdhury4050
    @adnanchowdhury4050 3 роки тому +19

    This is what a Doom or Quake movie should be.

  • @shcdemolisher
    @shcdemolisher 8 місяців тому +3

    Oh my god I remember watching this series YEARS ago! Man… time has flown.

  • @ZakroyGlaza
    @ZakroyGlaza Рік тому +5

    Смотрел его... как раз лет 12 назад, ждал прямо выхода новых серий.
    Это очень добротный продукт!

  • @MrLisso98
    @MrLisso98 Рік тому +3

    this dude right here tried to keep more stylistic consistency than ID in all their Proyects lmao. What a leyend

  • @doctorstainy
    @doctorstainy Рік тому +4

    EPIC movie! Why have I never seen this before. Ive played quake and doom for ages so this was so satisfying to watch, with the familiar arenas and stuff.

  • @GentleHeretic
    @GentleHeretic 8 років тому +49

    I love that the villain is literally some hack with cheats active.

  • @RAAM855
    @RAAM855 Рік тому +4

    Holy shit I finally found this. Idk if this was a fever dream or what. Gosh this deserves a lot more attention!

  • @notturok7841
    @notturok7841 3 роки тому +5

    WHAT A LOVE LETTER. I HATE THAT I HAVENT KNOWN ABOUT THIS. BUT IM SO HAPPY THAT I FOUND IT.

  • @nawzy202
    @nawzy202 Рік тому +3

    This is sick must have taken long time to make 11 years ago Holly shhhhh i still play quake live

  • @Cloxer
    @Cloxer Рік тому +2

    It's impressive seeing how long it has been since this film came out and there's a strong amount of respect i wanna give for creating something that brings this type of tribute to a game series like Quake & Doom and even more with Quake 3 in a way since that's the game i feel it deserved a lot more than being a focused Multiplayer game and this film expressed to me why, little after this movie came out i used to check the Quake Rebellion website multiple times because i fell in love with Quake 3 Arena again as well as the other iterations of the game that have come out over the next couple of years, Quake Live, Quake 3 Revolution (PS2 port), Quake 3 Mods, Quake 3 Machinima, Quake Champions if we count that one which i sort of do, i looked up whatever interesting material i could find of Quake 3 Arena in general and i am so happy this fan film is one of them, it takes a stab in trying something interesting using the game's basic or barebones plot as a base and has fun with it like so many underrated fan projects I've seen that i fell in love with as well have
    Honestly, Goss, whether you are working on something or enjoying your life or whatever you are doing nowadays I'll keep supporting and saluting ya because you are one of the content creators who has managed to fully create a project that brings a tribute to Quake and Doom like this, I'd still wish more people were aware of this project but i am thankful that at least i am one of them and i am proud to be a part of it even if just watching it from the sidelines.

  • @TheMrDewil
    @TheMrDewil 4 роки тому +14

    I, for one, consider this as an absolute classic. Even in 2020 this is a piece of art. Love it.

  • @cirobata3890
    @cirobata3890 9 років тому +30

    I've found this just today and I already feel like it's the best thing I've found online in the last good years, just a fantastic job and so faithful to the original game on its whole. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @Brodoomer
    @Brodoomer 11 місяців тому +2

    This is very underrated. Amazing movie.

  • @DRKONE
    @DRKONE 5 місяців тому +1

    i discover this serie like 7 or 8 years ago, still an amazing job, worth to watch it at least 1 or 2 times in a year

  • @carloscristero
    @carloscristero 6 років тому +11

    I hope a HD version will come. This was awesome!

  • @psi9000
    @psi9000 2 роки тому +7

    5:52 When Doom marine holds the chaingun, to me, it really looks like the Doom slayer’s silhouette, very prescient of the animator.

  • @therealshug
    @therealshug Рік тому +2

    Man, I can't believe I forgot about this. Holy shit, you must have put in a lot of work, really it's so goddamn good man. When I first watched this 9 years ago, I don't think I really appreciated how much effort and work went into it. I'm sure I still don't, but hey, good job dude.
    My appreciation for your work only continues to grow as I age, much like my love of Quake and CPMA lol.
    I love that you had a fight take place on cpm1 (visor v xaero 41:25), big platonic kisses for that one.

  • @Zelousmarineinspace
    @Zelousmarineinspace 10 років тому +27

    Saw this again: THIS NEEDS MORE VIEWS!!!
    This is the greatest videogame film ever made, & you NEVER find shit like this today.
    Goddamn, I'm almost thinking of getting a petition to make more views for this, this is so awesome.
    Joe Goss: You have accended into iDGodness, alongside SGtMarkIV, John Romero, & Justin Fisher.
    Shame you didn't get the budget to make Season 2.
    Oh well, this STILL needs more views anyway.

    • @Zelousmarineinspace
      @Zelousmarineinspace 9 років тому

      +Quaker540 You're saying SGtMarkIV isn't an idGod for creating Brütal Doom?

    • @Zelousmarineinspace
      @Zelousmarineinspace 9 років тому

      ***** well if Doom 4 is taking quotes from it, and it is the greatest doom mod to come out for some time now, I think we can assume he's an idGod. Same with anyone who does anything just as good like that in any of id's other games

    • @themaniacboy
      @themaniacboy 9 років тому

      +Quaker540 One of the greatest for me.

    • @themaniacboy
      @themaniacboy 9 років тому

      ***** What is the greatest in your opinion ?

    • @Zelousmarineinspace
      @Zelousmarineinspace 9 років тому

      ***** Your opinion,
      That's fine if you don't think that way.

  • @PhoenixBird9000
    @PhoenixBird9000 7 років тому +3

    I remember when Triton was working on these in episodic format. It was good stuff then, even better to see the complete movie. I had no idea this had been posted as a complete film until I decided to search for the Arenas Episodes. When I saw the first Quake Champions teaser with Ranger teleporting it immediately reminded me of Ranger and the Rune amulet, so I ran across this again. It's just as good as I remember it.

  • @AB-xd8hm
    @AB-xd8hm 10 років тому +1

    This is one of the best fan movies ever made. Brings back the good old days when talented people could make something great even on a shoe string budget.

  • @snakeeater3458
    @snakeeater3458 10 років тому +5

    When I saw doom guy vs sarge I shat bricks until I reached the ceiling, the best fan made movie period

  • @Mercuriusfm
    @Mercuriusfm 2 роки тому +2

    That really wasn’t bad tbh, especially for a free fan project.

  • @davemustang8173
    @davemustang8173 10 місяців тому +1

    Doing an RT Podcast binge to relive the old days, and I didn't know Jack did this

    • @SuperLeosid
      @SuperLeosid 5 місяців тому

      Could you send a link to the podcast where you saw/heard Jack?

    • @davemustang8173
      @davemustang8173 5 місяців тому +1

      @SuperLeosid that'll take some time. It was back in the Drunk Tank days so I'd guess somewhere around between episode #50 - #90?

    • @SuperLeosid
      @SuperLeosid 5 місяців тому

      @@davemustang8173 That's plenty information, thanks a lot!

  • @nicogesellbarrios7956
    @nicogesellbarrios7956 6 років тому +1

    Joe! i know its been some many years but you should give it a try again! people are playing quake champions non-stop! and your movies are so well rendered! why you dont give it a try again! join the quake champions community, try these series once more please!

  • @spacehunter2004
    @spacehunter2004 6 місяців тому +1

    The cacodemons facial expressions are flawless

  • @rentenversicherung
    @rentenversicherung 10 місяців тому +2

    Yup, a Masterpiece of Art. I love Visors/Gorre Cyborg Voice, its sick as fuck.
    In Generally, the selection of Sound effekts is really nice.
    Sry for my bad english

  • @hbombpvp
    @hbombpvp 8 років тому +3

    This is fantastic. All the music and levels/arenas brought back great memories!

  • @glitchoftheunknown1351
    @glitchoftheunknown1351 2 роки тому +4

    when i was like 5 i watched this like so many times like 5 times a day

    • @DirectorGoss
      @DirectorGoss  2 роки тому +1

      That makes me feel so good!

    • @glitchoftheunknown1351
      @glitchoftheunknown1351 2 роки тому +1

      @@DirectorGoss I started playing quake 3 arena at 2 years old I am 13 now and still enjoy this and the games

    • @DirectorGoss
      @DirectorGoss  2 роки тому +1

      @@glitchoftheunknown1351 My son also started playing when he was very little. He's 10 now and plays all the time!

  • @AlexanderHickz
    @AlexanderHickz 5 років тому +1

    As fun as I remembered. Glad that it's still here

  • @AtonPL
    @AtonPL 9 років тому +25

    q3dm17 in rain (24:30).......amazing !

  • @xDopingFightings
    @xDopingFightings 3 роки тому +1

    Making music for second season was inspiring experience.
    Even considering that it was canceled )

  • @GhoulRUSva
    @GhoulRUSva Місяць тому +1

    I would kill for an HD remaster of this or a remake

  • @jetpower1485
    @jetpower1485 12 років тому +3

    Awesome. Seriously, this is one of the best flicks I've seen lately. Good ending, interesting characters and nice twists. Has everything a good movie SHOULD have.
    5 Stars

  • @Phobos_Deimos
    @Phobos_Deimos 5 років тому +3

    It's sad it has no continuation.

  • @alexdelarosa6770
    @alexdelarosa6770 9 років тому +4

    10\10 mix of quake 3 and doom if this movie was part of the timeline it would be the reason why doom 4 is not out yet and why doom guy was in quake 3

  • @forveillelier
    @forveillelier 4 роки тому

    I remember this. When I was child i see this movies all the days. I love it.

  • @BruhPK
    @BruhPK 8 років тому +6

    "RAAAHHH! OOUGH, AAAH!" I love the fighting sounds, absolutely entertaining. As a whole though, a good interpretation!

  • @BILLTHORPE
    @BILLTHORPE 2 роки тому +1

    This looks great, will give it a watch tonight!!

  • @totara3463
    @totara3463 9 років тому +5

    This Is awesome! We need more videos like this!

  • @jamesbrennan3985
    @jamesbrennan3985 9 років тому +10

    This is amazingly awesome, we need a sequel!!

    • @Zelousmarineinspace
      @Zelousmarineinspace 8 років тому +2

      He tried Twice.
      It never worked out

    • @spikereef4260
      @spikereef4260 8 років тому +1

      +Zelousmarineinspace Why?

    • @BuckFastZombie
      @BuckFastZombie 8 років тому +1

      +James Brennan Awesome, what tool was used to make this? Any other Machinima anyone can reccomend. The stuff ive seen in the past is usually crap, youtube poop, skyrim poop stuff like that, theres no skill involved, this and Civil Protection are the best ive seen.

    • @jamesbrennan3985
      @jamesbrennan3985 8 років тому +2

      +Bucky Monk Unfortunately Arenas is the only good one I have found

    • @BuckFastZombie
      @BuckFastZombie 8 років тому +1

      James Brennan Try civil protection, or freemans mind. Half life machinima.

  • @Altraly
    @Altraly 8 років тому +2

    Compared to any other video game movie, this one is amazing. It even showed defraging! Wish there could be a movie for Quake Champions once it comes out.

  • @Shaman_Igromag
    @Shaman_Igromag 5 років тому

    I want to see continue. It's really good product! I'm sorry for
    nobody don't do such great films anymore. everything is fantastic!

  • @redrevanantarcdemon441
    @redrevanantarcdemon441 3 роки тому +2

    It's like Transformers Beast War all over again.

  • @杉村敏子
    @杉村敏子 3 роки тому +2

    I wish there was a Doom movie based on these epic levels.

  • @the_out_worlder
    @the_out_worlder 2 місяці тому

    HD remastered!!
    I actually watched this when I was growing up. Great series and I would love to see it. Remastered

  • @thibautmerlin2376
    @thibautmerlin2376 Рік тому

    Wow the memories.. I discovered these episodes like, 15 years ago ? Didn't know there were others.
    I especially loved the first ones with Doom, Visor, Sarge first meetings.
    And that operation Overlord clip with Q4 ennemies which finishes in Quake 3 arena intro ; a pure masterpiece.

  • @christopherbrand3805
    @christopherbrand3805 7 років тому

    Wow this is awesome why hasn't a movie company taken this on the idea of the most bad ass characters together is very cool I'm just glad fans are around to do this

  • @r4vencito.
    @r4vencito. 8 років тому +3

    AWESOME ! we need a sequel

  • @Myuu
    @Myuu 12 років тому +18

    why is there no HD version for this awesome movie?

    • @bowiesantiago518
      @bowiesantiago518 3 роки тому

      pro tip : you can watch movies on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies recently.

    • @grantlegend8872
      @grantlegend8872 3 роки тому

      @Bowie Santiago yea, I've been watching on Flixzone for since november myself :)

  • @BlazerProject
    @BlazerProject 13 років тому

    HELL YEAH! Over an hour of the episodes with deleted footage is better than watching reruns on the TV let alone satalite.
    DirectorGoss you need an award for doing this and also the work you have done is AWSOME!

  • @katamishi
    @katamishi 13 років тому +1

    Episodes were amazing, this is just pure case of WIN.
    Awesome work, D00M FTW!

  • @PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial
    @PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial 8 років тому +4

    THIS IS INCREDIBLE! THANK YOU!

    • @PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial
      @PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial 8 років тому +2

      +PROcrastiDRIVE SV Honestly, this sort of creativity is what is seriously lacking in game plots these days. I'm just thinking of the possibilities of new DooM if it were more like this! Well done mate, this video was well worth the trouble you've obviously gone to.

  • @ManuelJordan317
    @ManuelJordan317 2 роки тому

    Excellent movie fan! - I hope watch it in HD .... huge thanks for your efforts!

  • @HyperfixationWizard
    @HyperfixationWizard 11 років тому +4

    Loved the ending; Can't wait for Arenas 2

  • @ToucanSonofSam333
    @ToucanSonofSam333 8 років тому +19

    Quake 1 is ranger quake 2 is bitterman

    • @Kratos-jz5cl
      @Kratos-jz5cl 7 років тому

      i thought quake 2 was sarge?

    • @zael7848
      @zael7848 7 років тому +1

      I thought he was Grunt

    • @griffingower1883
      @griffingower1883 5 років тому

      Quake 4 is kane he hasn't been chosen by the vadrigar to become a gladiator

    • @shahnoormerchant6468
      @shahnoormerchant6468 5 років тому +1

      Quake 1 was Ranger or wrack
      Quake 2 was bitterman bit showed no face
      Quake 3 was Doom or Sarge

    • @szoszy8916
      @szoszy8916 4 роки тому

      @@griffingower1883 it was later, here are all from Q3

  • @EnclaveSOC-102
    @EnclaveSOC-102 4 роки тому +1

    It's been unblocked?! FUCKING FINALLY!!!

  • @Zelousmarineinspace
    @Zelousmarineinspace 11 років тому +1

    That will be explained in Season 2. That's because sarge didn't kill the Makron: Bitterman did. Sarge was fighting in the battle AFTER Bitterman killed the Makron. Proof of this is at 36:39 because you can see the Makron's corpse.

    • @griffingower1883
      @griffingower1883 5 років тому

      And then kane killed the makron in at the end of quake 4

  • @Viddaric
    @Viddaric 13 років тому

    Fun fact: Every single level in Doom is beatable from a pistol start, which is why there are so many redundant weapons lying around.
    Kickass movie, dude. Hope to see some more!

  • @L.J.HALL197
    @L.J.HALL197 13 років тому +2

    Give the Man a Medal-This is an Absulute MASTERPIECE!

  • @greengamma569
    @greengamma569 8 років тому +11

    You should consider trying to get id's attention for an animated movie. Maybe with an online petition or Kickstarter.

  • @gionnidigei
    @gionnidigei 13 років тому

    Thank you DirectorGoss, the real master of the arena is you.

  • @javasoldier5926
    @javasoldier5926 Рік тому

    this movie story and idea was awesome! I got good time watching

  • @stephanepichette6449
    @stephanepichette6449 3 роки тому +1

    This is Great Good Job : )

  • @TankSenior
    @TankSenior 11 років тому +1

    That was surprisingly good, especially as a long time Doom/Quake fan. Nice job!

  • @Bigoto
    @Bigoto 11 років тому

    Holy shit. I'm out of words, this movie was an absolute blast to watch, so much love and effort was cleatly put into this.

  • @KaijuMaster2099
    @KaijuMaster2099 Рік тому +2

    *IMPRESSIVE*

  • @fkeejf3830
    @fkeejf3830 Рік тому +1

    10:20 bu sahneler bir fan yapımına göre aşırı etkileyici.

  • @Hiddenus1
    @Hiddenus1 4 роки тому +2

    Imagine if the Doom of this story was the DOOMguy from newest DOOM
    He'd rip and tear through all of them without need of a story. To be honest within this one season he'd Rip and Tear through everyone, including the "masters" of this tournament (probably beyond too)

  • @NeoRocket001
    @NeoRocket001 6 років тому +1

    Wow, surprisingly good. Well done, I didn't expect an actual story. One I got into. Now, if only Hollywood could make this into a real movie! With Duane Johnson to make up for that waste of a movie DOOM they squandered his talents in.

  • @exium6976
    @exium6976 8 років тому +2

    It's.. amazing... Great work!

  • @xboxgamer8026
    @xboxgamer8026 8 років тому +1

    I remember watching this when i was 10 years old.

  • @ThePlanetvideos
    @ThePlanetvideos 11 років тому

    Featured on our website and channel. Good work, guys!

  • @herbyherb4149
    @herbyherb4149 10 років тому +1

    Haha, E1M1! The cacos look oldschool as well
    .
    It's a little different so far from the serialised version I saw the other week. Really enjoying it though. Will continue watching it tomorrow.

  • @kneekoo
    @kneekoo 8 років тому

    Great work. I wish it came in better quality but it still didn't spoil the fun for me. :) Just awesome!

  • @Psychoangel-d23
    @Psychoangel-d23 11 років тому +1

    I always knew it that using a chainsaw with one hand looks pretty badass :D

  • @krnt13
    @krnt13 8 років тому +4

    30:00 Holy shit!, LOL!
    This was soo good!

  • @Rednospunk
    @Rednospunk 13 років тому

    Thanks for this amazing vid, yo! I'v always been interested in the Doom/Quake universe too.

  • @quintensteele8363
    @quintensteele8363 10 років тому +2

    Hollywood should seriously make this into a real movie

    • @residentevil327
      @residentevil327 9 років тому +2

      Quinten Steele They did make a Doom movie but it was not good...

  • @jesterday2222
    @jesterday2222 13 років тому

    Thank you! You did an awesome job on this series. And remember people, Once a quaker, always a quaker =D

  • @Hellseeker1
    @Hellseeker1 Рік тому +1

    I remember way back in the 90's some kid at a store gave me shit for wearing a Quake 3 Arena shirt, he's like Unreal Tournament is better. I just kept walking thinking whatever I played both but preferer the Skill Ceiling of Quake. Anyways here we are 2023 and I have never seen a fan made film on Unreal Tournament. They made like 6 of them and nobody plays them, Quake and Doom still getting played today.

  • @davetaylor9300
    @davetaylor9300 12 років тому

    The sign of a brilliantly developed villain :). I think Joe Goss did a better job creating a hated villain than most movies do these days haha.

  • @adoknightofficial832
    @adoknightofficial832 8 років тому +8

    why doesnt this have more views?

  • @Hariarmannaz
    @Hariarmannaz 13 років тому

    Oh I so love the Level 5 music from Doom 1 you put in here!

  • @mikesully110
    @mikesully110 4 роки тому

    I love how a trickmap is part of the story lol with plasma climbing

  • @markhovscrch4050
    @markhovscrch4050 2 роки тому +1

    Looking Good hope they remake this for modern era

  • @ElekiSerket
    @ElekiSerket 12 років тому +6

    So, wait, Klesk was the big cheese all along?

  • @Zelousmarineinspace
    @Zelousmarineinspace 11 років тому

    Skrew Dwayne Johnson, THIS is a Doom/Quake film made by the RIGHT people, the RIGHT way. I bet my bottom dollar that IGN rated this 10.0/ 10.0

  • @TheBOR1S
    @TheBOR1S 11 років тому

    I LOVED THIS! great job guys, THANKS a lot

  • @LtSprinkulz
    @LtSprinkulz 12 років тому +1

    The Grunt vs Ranger fight was the best part imo.

  • @JackTheRaccBot
    @JackTheRaccBot 11 років тому

    Thanks for bringing my childhood memories to me!

  • @screwlewse
    @screwlewse 12 років тому

    Oh.. and love the Doom 2 sounds and maps etc.. so cool!

  • @spartan3924
    @spartan3924 12 років тому

    that was way better than I expected it to be

  • @SuperJackdam
    @SuperJackdam 7 років тому

    Algo que me enseño este juego, es.... que simplemente siempre va a haber alguien mejor que uno y es a base de .... trabajo, esmero, esfuerzo y pasión.. cuando yo jugaba QUAKE III ARENA, ((((Yo concurse con el Número UNO y me hizo TRIZAS, pero para mi fue Grandioso el momento, porque aprendi del MEJOR. mi nickname era..... JACKDAM. Gracias por la paliza.