The actress who played the female changeling in DS9 also appeared in TNG's "The Chase" as a member of the race who seeded the galaxy with humanoid life. It would have been ever so cool if the two stories were to have been linked somehow
Alex Brittain . It would be disappointing that the same race that created humanoid life and tried to bring races together ended up stagnating or going backwards in technology and also created the Dominion. I would prefer the idea that they did this across the galaxy, and included the race that would become the changelings in their genetic tampering. It would also conveniently explain why they chose (unwittingly) that similar humanoid form and it wasn't just a mimicking Odo thing.
When I was a kid Mark Leonard in Balance of Terror really confused me. One of the bridgemembers expressed concern about Vulcans and how close they were to and potentially with the Romulans, then Spock's father shows up as the captain of the Romulan Bird of Prey.
Barrett was all federation computers the DS9/Cardassian computer was Judi Durand who confusingly was the voice of the staircase computer in TSFS where Barrett was an unnamed officer (as she was dark haired it isn't Chapel so could perhaps be No1)
There is even an episode where I think they wrote in Lwaxana breaking character. Yes, she is talking about herself, but it also felt very much like it was Majel Barrett Roddenberry talking about her feelings after Gene Roddenberry's passing too.
Ron Howard's brother Clint Howard has appeared many times in Star Trek. The first was as Balok in the TOS episode "The Corbomite Maneuver". Years later, he appeared in the two-part DS9 episode "Past Tense" as the homeless man Grady, the Enterprise episode "Acquisition" as the Ferengi Muk, and the Discovery episode "Will You Take My Hand?" as a creepy Orion.
Jeffrey Combs has played nine different onscreen roles in the Star Trek universe, he was also in Voyager I think. The fun thing is though that now the fandom speculates if he will appear in Star Trek Discovery as well, which I think would be super cool.
The only one that I didn't spot immediately, was Brunt. The prosthetics, and fake teeth, changed his look (and sound) just enough to throw me off. Now that I know, I can't unsee it. It's the way he moves his mouth mostly. Always gives it away.
Robert O'Reilly. He's no stranger to sci-fi and fantasy as he has also played on two episodes of 'Knight Rider', and an episode each of 'The Incredible Hulk', 'Fantasy Island', 'Max Headroom' and 'Voyagers!'.
The original idea was that Solar would be a recurring character and do all the heavy lifting for Polaski in the same way Riker did for Picard plus she would have have a relationship with Worf.
She was also a Lawyer on Babylon 5 & recurring Character N'Toth Ambassador G'Kar's attache (Season One). She's quite a striking woman - looks a bit like M. Barret did as 'Number One'. There is that bloke the Doctor murdered on The Orville who has been in all kinds of things from multiple Star Trek Episodes to The Terminator. I've been rewatching Babylon 5 and a lot of Star Trek cast show up - Jeffery Combs played a sympathetic Telepath for example. Lyta Alexander is Major Kira's Stunt Double on Ds9 and she was also a back ground artist (usually someone in security). The ubiquitous W. Morgan Sheppard was on there more than once too as well as in Star Trek shows and a main Character "Blank Reg" in Max Headroom. Speaking of which Matt Threwer (Max Headroom) was Rasmusen the thieving Time traveller (from the 22nd Century). I wonder if he could show up on Discovery - if they wanted to say he'd already had a go at looking a Century ahead and not two ?
Thank you for another fun video! Not only did Jeffrey Combs play both Weyun and Brunt, he played both of them in the same episode, in "The Dogs of War." This makes him only one of three Trek characters to play unrelated roles in the same episode, and the only actor to be credited for both roles in the same episode.
I'd really like to see you do a Trekonomics video. Trek has been very vague and sometimes contradictory about it. It would be interesting to see all the info from the show combined.
It should also be noted that the original intent was to have Robert Duncan McNeil reprise his role as Lt. Locarno in Voyager, being given a "fresh start". However, there were some rights issues something having to do with the original writers of "The First Duty" receiving royalties if Locarno's character was used in a regular series. So they just changed his name to Paris and gave him a similar troubled background story.
Hi EC Henry, Here are some ideas for future videos: Reused sets (for example I recall during watching the first season Voyager that the cylindrical corridor in the power plant in the episode "Time and Again" was reused in a following episode "Phage" as the Vidiian corridor protected by a holographic image and force field). Or how the bridge of the Enterprise-A was also reused as the bridge of the Excelsior, Enterprise-B, and the Prometheus on Voyager. I'm sure that such examples are numerous, but it shows the creativity of the art and set departments when working with a budget, using existing set pieces and redressing them to look new and different. You could pick some of best and worst examples of reusing sets. Reused ship models that appear as different alien ship models on TNG, DS9, and early seasons of VOY. Or a video of all the Star Wars easter eggs that appear in Star Trek, and perhaps vice versa. Here is a good source: memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars#Star_Wars_in_Star_Trek
That round Corridor is the one Scotty is walking through just before he bumps his head and says "I know this ship like the back of my hand" - it shows up a lot - I think it was used as part of the Klingon sets and many other times too.
It should be noted that Nana Visitor was a guest star in MacGyver, Armin Shimerman was in Stargate SG-1, and René Auberjonois was in The Little Mermaid.
The woman who plays B'Lanna Torres also plays a ships captain on Sci Fi Show "Seven days" Just about everyone ever from everything has been on Murder She Wrote (not an exaggeration the list is huge : I've spotted Kate Mulgrew, the actor who played Airwolf creator, Wilma Deering (Erin Grey) From Buck Rogers and many many more; Columbo to as well - Heck Shatner was on it twice as two different people and (non-canon) spin off Mrs Columbo was Mulgrew too. People get around though - especially when a lot of genre shows were made in Canada you'd see people like Lexa Doyle repeatedly in different shows.
With Robert McNeill being in Voyager; the original pitch was have him play his TNG character Locano but because the rights of that character were held to the writers of the episode to TNG, it was infeasible to have McNeill play Locano so they invented Tom Paris.
The producers also thought that Locarno's character was irredeemable. Tom Paris could have walked away from his trial a free man but chose to confess anyway. Locarno on the other hand had no intention to confess to anything. He even bullied his teammembers into keeping quite about the true cause of the accident.
Ziim of which I disagree he was a scared and stupid kid. When push came to shove he made sure he took the fall alone. He didn’t have to do that and I’ve always believed that while yes some his motives for covering up were selfish I also believe he truly believed covering it up was best for the team.
Harder for VOY to distance itself from the other Treks when the helmsman recalls (or conspicuously never mentions) his classmate Wesley, or that time he met Picard, etc etc.
I had no idea Majel Barret did so many roles throughout Trek! Lwaxana Troi is one of my favourite characters...! And I am a huge fan of Jeffrey Combs popping up time and again in... almost all scifi? Always a pleasure to recognize him in random minor roles. :)
He also played Dr Zimmerman on DS9, having originally played a holographic representation of Zimmerman in 'Voyager' and would go on to play the real Zimmerman in a later 'Voyager' episode 'Life Line' that he also co wrote.
My favorite role by Picardo has to be his movie nigh every alien role, and main character in the movie scene at the drive through in the movie... river phenix etc, “Explorers” from 1985
I'm not sure having the same actor cast as yet another one (of many) EMH-1 holograms really counts this way, lol, still the "same" character in "same" role and "same" costume.
Even though he was only a major character by name, james cromwell who played zefram cochran in first contact had a couple obscure roles in next generation.
In voyager the episode “flashback” that shows tuvok as a bridge officer in the Enterprise B. So that might be tuvok before tuvok exists. But it was under command of sulu
Sulu commanded the Excelsior during the destruction of Praxis, and the battle at Khitomer. Tuvok served as a junior science officer assisting in the mission to catalog gaseous anomalies in Beta Quadrant.
breotan Yes! Good memory, sir. He wore a blue uniform in his first appearance, although in the style from the TOS pilots. Nonetheless, this would make George Takei one of the few actors to wear all three division colors, including mirror-Sulu wearing red.
Actor Peter Weller played the antagonist Paxton in Enterprise then Admiral Marcus in Into Darkness. From a two episode villain to a movie villain is a big upgrade.
I just learned that Diana Muldaur also played Dr. Pulaski in the second season of The Next Generation. Now I appreciate her return to Trek and her time in TNG.
Agreed! I was halfway through typing a comment about what they missed about people who were already mentioned who were also in Enterprise, and then he mentioned them. Very thorough.
There is one you missed: Joseph Sisko, father of Captain Benjamin Sisko, was played by Brock Peters (who also played Admiral Cartwright in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country) (And his best role was Tom Robinson (the wrongly convicted black man) in To Kill a Mockingbird)
Majel Barret Roddenberry was the voice of the computer in all Star Trek eras...even the first JJ Abrams Trek Movie, which was filmed shortly before her death.
Since frequantly reoccurring characters seem to be honorable mentions in the video, I'd like to mention Randy Oglesby. He's tied for second place with 3 other actors in _Trek_ appearances with seven, next to Vaughn Armstrong. Oglesby most notably played the Xindi weapon creator, Degra, in season 3 of _Enterprise_ in a frequently reoccurring role. His other roles were in _TNG_ "Loud As a Whisper", _DS9_ "The Darkness and the Light", _VOY_ "Counterpoint", _ENT_ "Unexpected", and twins in _DS9_ "Vortex".
Tom Paris' bit part character actually has the same back story as Tom being a rookie pilot who was kicked out of the academy for performing a dangerous maneuver.
@@michaelramsey1299 No no no no, can't be. Sickbay and the EMH were both from _VOY,_ which was still on the air when _First Contact_ came out; all Philips had to do was show one day _without_ make-up, and BAM! done.
@@EVAUnit4A been three years since I made the comment but if I remember right this video was discussing actors that appeared as side characters before being a main character which was my point he was already playing Neelix by the time he appeared in First Contact and as such doesn’t count fir this list and is instead a cameo.
Every time I watch one of your videos I check if I already subscribed, because even the most seemingly boring topics turn out to be really well researched, interesting, fun videos.
Jeffrey Combs was easily my favorite recurring actor. I mean, Weyoun, Shran, AND Brunt?! honestly if I didn't have an ear for picking out voice actors, I would've never known.
I like to think that all those other appearances of Tim Russ was just Tuvok under cover for Star Fleet Intelegence (he would have been a part of Star Fleet at the time of Enterprise B since he was working under Sulu during the Praxis incident.)
I'm just going to come out and say it... Jeffrey Combs is one of, if not THE most important actors in the ST series history. His collection of characters often stole the spotlight, and in some cases (Enterprise I'm looking at you) saved an episode or two. Shran, Brunt, Weyoun, etc... were all brilliantly portrayed, and all unique.
Someone forgot about Laas, the other changeling that Odo met during the dominion war played by J.G Hertzler. Funny thing is that poor bastard was infected by Odo, and will infect other changelings he planned on finding. Buddy had nothing to do with the war but missed out on odo's cure
Jeffrey Combs would also move on to other sci-fi/fantasy franchises- one of which was the voice behind the Autobot Ratchet in the animated series Transformers: Prime.
Its worth noting that part of the reason Robert Duncan McNeill played both Nick Larcano and Tom Paris is because there was a point where they considered Nick Larcano as the character in Voyager. Sometime shortly between the official signing of Robert McNeil and the premier, they decided to course correct this and change the character.
It wasn't really a course correction. They couldn't/didn't want to pay the creators of Lacarno royalties to use the character. The writers of the TNG episode own the rights to him. So Tom was created so that everything could stay unchanged with who his character was... a guy who was getting a second chance.
Funny thing about Robert Duncan McNeil, it was suppose to be Nick Lacarno who was to be on Voyager as helm officer, but they didn't want to pay all that extra royalty nor Lacarno and so Nick Lacarno became Thomas Eugene Paris while still having McNeil.
Ethan Phillips also appeared as a hologram in First Contact :-) Interestingly, he asked not the appear in the credits to make it difficult for people to quickly confirm if what they saw was indeed the same actor who played Neelix (way back before IMDB or Wiki was available).
Idea to cover: Memory Alpha writes about Tom Paris: "Reasons for not simply bringing back the Locarno character have varied. It may have been because they would have had to pay royalties to the writers of "The First Duty" every episode, even though in interviews the producers of Voyager have said they felt Locarno's actions in that episode made him irredeemable. ("Memorable Missions Year Five" ("The First Duty"), TNG Season 5 DVD special feature) Later, a photo of McNeill as Locarno was used as a photo of young Tom Paris on Admiral Owen Paris's desk in the episode "Pathfinder"." I also remember something like that Worf was to appear in one of the Mirror Universe DS9 episodes, but he didn't so they invented a new klingon character. So there are these almost-canon connections. And the whole royalties things seems interesting to me, how does that work, who wrote which episodes and characters and so on.
I'd always heard he was supposed to be Locarno in _Voyager_ but they just created a nearly identical character to avoid paying royalties. I was really expecting him to mention it in the video.
i noticed a few years back certain scifi shows would hire each others actors. star gate especially was taking cast from various shows including farscape & andromeda, then some of their actors went on to star trek as well. even before that i used to watch gargoyles & noticed how much of the cast came right out of STNG. might be interesting to track all the different actors & see where certain films & series have some interesting cast overlaps. for starters, check out the 1989 film Arena, which has Marc Alaimo & Armin Shimerman years before DS9.
I guess it doesn't fit the parameter of the video, but one casting choice that I found totally bizarre was JG Hertzler as the changeling Laas in the season 7 DS9 episode "Chimera" - just so odd because Martok was such a frequent presence on the show, I would imagine most of the audience figured out it was the same actor almost immediately. Why not hire someone else?
I noticed it at the time as well but the name he was credited with for that episode war Garman Hertzler so I just presumed it was his brother or something. The internet wasnt really what it is today back then so it was only in recent years that I figured out that I was right at the time and it was actually him. Garman was the "G" in JG Hertzler apparently.
I think Voyager producers originally wanted the Tom Paris character to actually be Lucarno from that TNG episode, but it would've meant giving a lot of money to the writer of the original story so they just changed his name and back story.
Ya forgot James Cromwell, from the movie generations and two episodes of enterprise, also played several guest episodes of TNG, AILENS... only recognizable by his voice.
He was also on DS9 as the alien from the Gamma Quadrant that Quark swindled, got stuck in a room on the Defiant with when a faulty torpedo stuck in the wall they had to disarm while attempting to take Odo home to be cured. For years I thought it was Auberjonois as Odo only made one brief appearance in the show but nope it was Cromwell.
Kang, Kor, and Koloth all appeared in TOS and DS9 played by the same actors. 25+ years after there inital roles. Also Spock's father Sarek also appeared in TOS and TNG, a 15+ years gap. These are the ones i remembered that didn't appear on your list.
wow, how could you overlook Mark Lenard who Is the first Romulan seen in (Episode 15 "Balance of Terror" of Season 1of TOS)then went on to play Spock's Father (Episode 10 "Journey to Babel" Season 2 of TOS) and in all the movies and TNG
You should do an episode on how often Troi crashes a ship. I know that 'Skin of Evil', 'Generations' and 'Nemisis' (although the latter she was ordered too) she crashes but there must be times she piloted shuttles or whatever and didn't crash.
I think the times they drag her ass out of a crashed shuttle she wasn't driving she was just jinxing the pilot perhaps.But everyone crashes shuttles in Star Trek they go through them quicker than I get through socks.
'Skin of Evil' Prito is knocked out and Troi takes over, although it could be that her intervention was the reason the shuttle didn't burn up and both her and Prito survived. (unfortunatly for Prito he was later killed by Nagelum after sitting for Wesley who inexplicably vanished during the commercial) But it is a fan thing that she crashes everything, but there must have been times when she helmed a real ship (not holographic) and didn't crash.
Most of these have also played other minor characters in Star Trek, I think some of the instances were given names so I understand why the weren’t mentioned here
Here's an idea: it's probably not considered a big deal in this day and age, but once upon a time, DS9 and B5 fans had a bitter rivalry over the marked similarity between the two shows. And, there were certainly a number of jabs the two productions took at each other (Bashir having to babysit bickering ambassadors, Ivanovna using the words "Deep Space Franchise" verbatim, etc), but also the occasional shared cast (Bill Mumy, Lenir on B5, played a small role on 'Siege of AR558'; Patty Tallman played Lyta Alexander on B5 and a number of bit parts on DS9) and who could forget the infamous double-booking of Robert Foxworth (Admiral Leyton, General Hague)? But then there are the virtually identical roles filled by main cast members; Kyra and Delenn are both deeply spiritual people at odds with their brethren dealing with a violent history, Londo and Garak are disgraced men who love their home, the Dominion/Cardassian relationship mirrors the Shadow/Centauri relationship, the Narn might as well be the Bajorans and Klingons combined, Sisko and Sheridan both become messianic figures, the Whitestar and the Defiant are two ships I'm hoping Daniel @ Spacedock will duel at some point, etc. I have always wanted to see a comprehensive look at the parallels of these two excellent shows. Care to have a crack at it?
Was Tim Russ actually just playing Tuvok in Generations? It sounds possible, they retconned him being on the Excelsior during The Undiscovered Country in Voyager, so he'd just be moving from one Excelsior class ship to another. Time to check memory alpha, I guess!
is the books Macet is Dukats cousin. From Memory Alpha "Macet appeared in several of the Deep Space Nine relaunch series novels, including the Gateways Deep Space Nine entry Demons of Air and Darkness, Unity, and Worlds of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Volume One. The similarities between Macet and Dukat were explained as being due to the fact that they were cousins. However, Macet was a much more honorable man than Dukat. The Pocket DS9 story Fearful Symmetry implies that he grew facial hair as a conscious effort to lessen this resemblance. Macet joined Damar's Cardassian Rebellion and fought against the Dominion - in Demons of Air and Darkness, it was established that he commanded the fleet which attacked Rondac III in "The Changing Face of Evil"."
Watching this episode reminded my that the character Tom Paris was supposed to be that cadet the actor played on TNG. Are there other characters that got weirdly reshuffled despite original planing.
Kira was originally intended to be Ro Laren from TNG but the actress decided to take another role in a different series. So Kira was created and given all of Ro's characteristics instead. Interesting to note that that other role went so poorly that Ro had to come back to TNG in season 7 probably just for a quick paycheck. Ouch! lol
The actress who played the female changeling in DS9 also appeared in TNG's "The Chase" as a member of the race who seeded the galaxy with humanoid life. It would have been ever so cool if the two stories were to have been linked somehow
There's the theory that that race evolved into the changelings. So that's cool I guess.
GREAT linked?
@@soljafon ba dum tiss
Alex Brittain . It would be disappointing that the same race that created humanoid life and tried to bring races together ended up stagnating or going backwards in technology and also created the Dominion.
I would prefer the idea that they did this across the galaxy, and included the race that would become the changelings in their genetic tampering. It would also conveniently explain why they chose (unwittingly) that similar humanoid form and it wasn't just a mimicking Odo thing.
Max Grodénchik (Rom, extremely recurring character) originally played the Ferengi Sovak in the Next Generation episode "Captain's Holiday".
I like to think that was Rom. i vividly remembered him from TNG when i began watching DS9
Mark leonard played a Romulan commander in TOS Balance of terror and went on to play Sarek on TOS and TNG.
he was also the klingon on the motion picture
I thought that was James Doohan...
True, but the clip is only about regulars in the various series. Mark Leonard was great in balance of Terror, he stole the show
When I was a kid Mark Leonard in Balance of Terror really confused me. One of the bridgemembers expressed concern about Vulcans and how close they were to and potentially with the Romulans, then Spock's father shows up as the captain of the Romulan Bird of Prey.
Majel Barrett was also all the computers until she died...
Death didn't stop her - they recorded her voice so they could use it after she was gone too.
She was also Nurse Chaple on the ST: TOS
Barrett was all federation computers the DS9/Cardassian computer was Judi Durand who confusingly was the voice of the staircase computer in TSFS where Barrett was an unnamed officer (as she was dark haired it isn't Chapel so could perhaps be No1)
And Lwaxana
There is even an episode where I think they wrote in Lwaxana breaking character. Yes, she is talking about herself, but it also felt very much like it was Majel Barrett Roddenberry talking about her feelings after Gene Roddenberry's passing too.
Ron Howard's brother Clint Howard has appeared many times in Star Trek. The first was as Balok in the TOS episode "The Corbomite Maneuver". Years later, he appeared in the two-part DS9 episode "Past Tense" as the homeless man Grady, the Enterprise episode "Acquisition" as the Ferengi Muk, and the Discovery episode "Will You Take My Hand?" as a creepy Orion.
Jeffrey Combs has played nine different onscreen roles in the Star Trek universe, he was also in Voyager I think. The fun thing is though that now the fandom speculates if he will appear in Star Trek Discovery as well, which I think would be super cool.
Jeffrey Combs and J.G. Hertzler guest starred on voyager, the episode was called Tsunkatse
Combs originally wanted the part of Will Riker that went to Frakes. I think he played 3 different roles in one episode
I hope so, that would be good for discovery, I still have issues with that series but there is potential.
Would they feel the Brunt of that?
Jeffrey Combs has such as distinctive voice and speech pattern I can spot in him in any role instantly.
The only one that I didn't spot immediately, was Brunt. The prosthetics, and fake teeth, changed his look (and sound) just enough to throw me off. Now that I know, I can't unsee it. It's the way he moves his mouth mostly. Always gives it away.
Always loved J.G. Hertzler as Martok, his gruff voice is perfect for the role.
Kevin Norris he was great as the villian in the old Zorro show
And lets also not forget he plays Admiral Samuel Travis in (that fanfilm that shall not be named) :P
Female founder was on tng first as the original humanoid. And Zephram cochran played the president of some planet
the actor who played Gowron first appeared as a holographic bad guy in one of Picard's Dixon Hill novels. you cannot miss those eyes.
Robert O'Reilly. He's no stranger to sci-fi and fantasy as he has also played on two episodes of 'Knight Rider', and an episode each of 'The Incredible Hulk', 'Fantasy Island', 'Max Headroom' and 'Voyagers!'.
"Scarface".
Great episode. What about Majel Barrett as Lwaxana Troi?
tarquinnff3 and the voice of all the computers
She wasn't major enough. She was only in five episodes of TNG, and two of DS9.
Worf's half klingon wife, in an earlier episode played a vulcan.
The original idea was that Solar would be a recurring character and do all the heavy lifting for Polaski in the same way Riker did for Picard plus she would have have a relationship with Worf.
That would of been great, shame it never happened. I think the name is Selar.
She was also a Lawyer on Babylon 5 & recurring Character N'Toth Ambassador G'Kar's attache (Season One). She's quite a striking woman - looks a bit like M. Barret did as 'Number One'.
There is that bloke the Doctor murdered on The Orville who has been in all kinds of things from multiple Star Trek Episodes to The Terminator.
I've been rewatching Babylon 5 and a lot of Star Trek cast show up - Jeffery Combs played a sympathetic Telepath for example.
Lyta Alexander is Major Kira's Stunt Double on Ds9 and she was also a back ground artist (usually someone in security).
The ubiquitous W. Morgan Sheppard was on there more than once too as well as in Star Trek shows and a main Character "Blank Reg" in Max Headroom.
Speaking of which Matt Threwer (Max Headroom) was Rasmusen the thieving Time traveller (from the 22nd Century).
I wonder if he could show up on Discovery - if they wanted to say he'd already had a go at looking a Century ahead and not two ?
She is certainly striking. That would be funny if Rasmusen showed up though I find it highly unlikely given the tone of discovery.
She was also a female Q on voyager
Great video. I’m a life long Trekkie, i always noticed and enjoyed the recurrences of some actors as different characters.
Thank you for another fun video! Not only did Jeffrey Combs play both Weyun and Brunt, he played both of them in the same episode, in "The Dogs of War." This makes him only one of three Trek characters to play unrelated roles in the same episode, and the only actor to be credited for both roles in the same episode.
I'd really like to see you do a Trekonomics video. Trek has been very vague and sometimes contradictory about it. It would be interesting to see all the info from the show combined.
EC Henry - doing all the cool Trek research so you don't have to
Odo's bajoran dad also appeared on tng first as a romulan and a klingon and some other alien
He played Jetrel, the genocidal alien with a change of heart, in the Voyager episode, er, "Jetrel".
It should also be noted that the original intent was to have Robert Duncan McNeil reprise his role as Lt. Locarno in Voyager, being given a "fresh start". However, there were some rights issues something having to do with the original writers of "The First Duty" receiving royalties if Locarno's character was used in a regular series. So they just changed his name to Paris and gave him a similar troubled background story.
Hi EC Henry, Here are some ideas for future videos:
Reused sets (for example I recall during watching the first season Voyager that the cylindrical corridor in the power plant in the episode "Time and Again" was reused in a following episode "Phage" as the Vidiian corridor protected by a holographic image and force field). Or how the bridge of the Enterprise-A was also reused as the bridge of the Excelsior, Enterprise-B, and the Prometheus on Voyager. I'm sure that such examples are numerous, but it shows the creativity of the art and set departments when working with a budget, using existing set pieces and redressing them to look new and different. You could pick some of best and worst examples of reusing sets.
Reused ship models that appear as different alien ship models on TNG, DS9, and early seasons of VOY.
Or a video of all the Star Wars easter eggs that appear in Star Trek, and perhaps vice versa. Here is a good source: memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars#Star_Wars_in_Star_Trek
A reused sets and models video is a great idea! Maybe two videos :)
That round Corridor is the one Scotty is walking through just before he bumps his head and says "I know this ship like the back of my hand" - it shows up a lot - I think it was used as part of the Klingon sets and many other times too.
TNG’s Ten-Forward doubled as the president’s office in Undiscovered Country.
Michelle Forbes was offered the role of Ro Laren because she brought great depth to a one-off guest spot on the otherwise forgettable “Half a Life.”
It should be noted that Nana Visitor was a guest star in MacGyver, Armin Shimerman was in Stargate SG-1, and René Auberjonois was in The Little Mermaid.
Armin Shimerman was also the second principal in Buffy The Vampire Slayer
The woman who plays B'Lanna Torres also plays a ships captain on Sci Fi Show "Seven days" Just about everyone ever from everything has been on Murder She Wrote (not an exaggeration the list is huge : I've spotted Kate Mulgrew, the actor who played Airwolf creator, Wilma Deering (Erin Grey) From Buck Rogers and many many more; Columbo to as well - Heck Shatner was on it twice as two different people and (non-canon) spin off Mrs Columbo was Mulgrew too.
People get around though - especially when a lot of genre shows were made in Canada you'd see people like Lexa Doyle repeatedly in different shows.
+90 Lancaster
I can attest to Murder She Wrote as I saw my mother watching episodes with Ricardo Montalban and John de Lancie in the past year.
Nana Visitor also appeared in an episode of Battlestar Galactica
Kenneth Rogers many Star Trek actors have been in Babylon 5 &
Stargate franchise .
With Robert McNeill being in Voyager; the original pitch was have him play his TNG character Locano but because the rights of that character were held to the writers of the episode to TNG, it was infeasible to have McNeill play Locano so they invented Tom Paris.
The producers also thought that Locarno's character was irredeemable. Tom Paris could have walked away from his trial a free man but chose to confess anyway. Locarno on the other hand had no intention to confess to anything. He even bullied his teammembers into keeping quite about the true cause of the accident.
Ziim of which I disagree he was a scared and stupid kid. When push came to shove he made sure he took the fall alone. He didn’t have to do that and I’ve always believed that while yes some his motives for covering up were selfish I also believe he truly believed covering it up was best for the team.
agreed Michael
Harder for VOY to distance itself from the other Treks when the helmsman recalls (or conspicuously never mentions) his classmate Wesley, or that time he met Picard, etc etc.
I had no idea Majel Barret did so many roles throughout Trek! Lwaxana Troi is one of my favourite characters...!
And I am a huge fan of Jeffrey Combs popping up time and again in... almost all scifi? Always a pleasure to recognize him in random minor roles. :)
Another fantastic video, loving this channel. :)
Picardo played the doctor on both Voyager and in ST: First Contact
He also played Dr Zimmerman on DS9, having originally played a holographic representation of Zimmerman in 'Voyager' and would go on to play the real Zimmerman in a later 'Voyager' episode 'Life Line' that he also co wrote.
My favorite role by Picardo has to be his movie nigh every alien role, and main character in the movie scene at the drive through in the movie... river phenix etc, “Explorers” from 1985
He was the Johnny Cab in the Schwarzenegger Total Recall, they even modeled the mannequin after his features.
I'm not sure having the same actor cast as yet another one (of many) EMH-1 holograms really counts this way, lol, still the "same" character in "same" role and "same" costume.
Even though he was only a major character by name, james cromwell who played zefram cochran in first contact had a couple obscure roles in next generation.
One of my favorite things about watching Star Trek is spotting recurring actors in their smaller roles.
In voyager the episode “flashback” that shows tuvok as a bridge officer in the Enterprise B. So that might be tuvok before tuvok exists. But it was under command of sulu
Ton13579 it was, however, after he was a main character on Voyager
Ton13579 that was Excelsior, not Enterprise B
Sulu commanded the Excelsior during the destruction of Praxis, and the battle at Khitomer. Tuvok served as a junior science officer assisting in the mission to catalog gaseous anomalies in Beta Quadrant.
Wasn't George Takei a botanist / background character early on before he became part of the main cast?
breotan Yes! Good memory, sir. He wore a blue uniform in his first appearance, although in the style from the TOS pilots. Nonetheless, this would make George Takei one of the few actors to wear all three division colors, including mirror-Sulu wearing red.
JG was also one of the 150 changelings that were sent out. Odo encountered him later in the series as the one that could become fog.
Actor Peter Weller played the antagonist Paxton in Enterprise then Admiral Marcus in Into Darkness. From a two episode villain to a movie villain is a big upgrade.
I just learned that Diana Muldaur also played Dr. Pulaski in the second season of The Next Generation. Now I appreciate her return to Trek and her time in TNG.
J.G. Hertzler also played the changeling Laas in the DS9 episode "Chimera."
This is one of those videos where I was thinking 'ooh, I bet he misses ...' and I was wrong each time. Very good.
Thanks! That’s great to hear!
Agreed! I was halfway through typing a comment about what they missed about people who were already mentioned who were also in Enterprise, and then he mentioned them. Very thorough.
There is one you missed: Joseph Sisko, father of Captain Benjamin Sisko, was played by Brock Peters (who also played Admiral Cartwright in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country) (And his best role was Tom Robinson (the wrongly convicted black man) in To Kill a Mockingbird)
A real miss considering he used a clip with Brock Peter's in it in this video. Lol. Can't get em all I guess.
Majel Barret Roddenberry was the voice of the computer in all Star Trek eras...even the first JJ Abrams Trek Movie, which was filmed shortly before her death.
Another fun theme: how many Star Trek actors also did voice work for Disney's Gargoyles? It's a lot. Dig deep, even more than you may think!
Since frequantly reoccurring characters seem to be honorable mentions in the video, I'd like to mention Randy Oglesby. He's tied for second place with 3 other actors in _Trek_ appearances with seven, next to Vaughn Armstrong. Oglesby most notably played the Xindi weapon creator, Degra, in season 3 of _Enterprise_ in a frequently reoccurring role. His other roles were in _TNG_ "Loud As a Whisper", _DS9_ "The Darkness and the Light", _VOY_ "Counterpoint", _ENT_ "Unexpected", and twins in _DS9_ "Vortex".
Tom Paris' bit part character actually has the same back story as Tom being a rookie pilot who was kicked out of the academy for performing a dangerous maneuver.
Michael Dorn played Kirk's Lawyer in Undiscovered Country prior to playing Worf.
@@Timmy_K I did not know this piece of lore. That's actually pretty neat, thanks! I'll have to look up more on that.
I think you missed one. I believe Neelix was the host in the club that Picard tricked the Borg with in First Contact. Unless I'm mistaken.
邪児 Kronaz no you’re right but that came after he was Nelix and would more justly be called a cameo appearance.
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No no no no, can't be. Sickbay and the EMH were both from _VOY,_ which was still on the air when _First Contact_ came out; all Philips had to do was show one day _without_ make-up, and BAM! done.
@@EVAUnit4A been three years since I made the comment but if I remember right this video was discussing actors that appeared as side characters before being a main character which was my point he was already playing Neelix by the time he appeared in First Contact and as such doesn’t count fir this list and is instead a cameo.
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Ah, perhaps so. My mistake then.
0:08 This man always messed with my head.
Doesn't he look like that officer that thought Sisko was crazy on the episode he was foreseeing the future?
Every time I watch one of your videos I check if I already subscribed, because even the most seemingly boring topics turn out to be really well researched, interesting, fun videos.
Tim Rus was also in Star Trek IV as the Helecptor Pilot who delivered the Transparant aluminum.
Jeffrey Combs was easily my favorite recurring actor. I mean, Weyoun, Shran, AND Brunt?! honestly if I didn't have an ear for picking out voice actors, I would've never known.
I've never even seen Star Trek but I love your videos
This is exactly the nerdy trek stuff I’ve been craving thank you I watch all your videos
After the Janoit part you quick cut away from a federation admiral that’s played by Sisko’s father too, wow didn’t know that!
I like to think that all those other appearances of Tim Russ was just Tuvok under cover for Star Fleet Intelegence (he would have been a part of Star Fleet at the time of Enterprise B since he was working under Sulu during the Praxis incident.)
I'm just going to come out and say it... Jeffrey Combs is one of, if not THE most important actors in the ST series history. His collection of characters often stole the spotlight, and in some cases (Enterprise I'm looking at you) saved an episode or two. Shran, Brunt, Weyoun, etc... were all brilliantly portrayed, and all unique.
How about a video on how many stat trek cast members were on Boston Legal. I count at least a dozen.
Armin Shimerman has gone on record saying Quark was his apology for the previous Ferengi appearances
You completely neglected neelix, who later played a hologram in first contact and a ferengi in enterprise
He only wanted to cover roles cast members played before they were cast.
FramedHamProductions well he could’ve at least mentioned post roles, those are more interesting due to how they’re more recognizable at that point
I actually think previous roles are more interesting BECAUSE they’re less recognizable.
EC Henry well the first contact one was definitely unrecognizable
He played a ferengi in a voyager episode
Fun fact: Vaughn Armstrong is the only ST actor to have appeared in TNG, DS9, VOY, and Enterprise (every non-TOS show prior to the reboot).
Someone forgot about Laas, the other changeling that Odo met during the dominion war played by J.G Hertzler.
Funny thing is that poor bastard was infected by Odo, and will infect other changelings he planned on finding. Buddy had nothing to do with the war but missed out on odo's cure
Haven was filmed before The Last Outpost, so the head box thing was Armin Shimerman's actual first role in Star Trek.
Dr. Flox from Enterprise also plays the collector of one-of-a-kind objects in The Next Generation
Jeffrey Combs would also move on to other sci-fi/fantasy franchises- one of which was the voice behind the Autobot Ratchet in the animated series Transformers: Prime.
Its worth noting that part of the reason Robert Duncan McNeill played both Nick Larcano and Tom Paris is because there was a point where they considered Nick Larcano as the character in Voyager. Sometime shortly between the official signing of Robert McNeil and the premier, they decided to course correct this and change the character.
It wasn't really a course correction. They couldn't/didn't want to pay the creators of Lacarno royalties to use the character. The writers of the TNG episode own the rights to him. So Tom was created so that everything could stay unchanged with who his character was... a guy who was getting a second chance.
Funny thing about Robert Duncan McNeil, it was suppose to be Nick Lacarno who was to be on Voyager as helm officer, but they didn't want to pay all that extra royalty nor Lacarno and so Nick Lacarno became Thomas Eugene Paris while still having McNeil.
Never realized Quark was the gift box!
Also, you left out Gowron appearing as a baddie in a TNG holodeck episode!
Armstrong played eight characters. That's gotta be a record. He must have a unique perspective on Star Trek.
Michael Dorn, was in TNG and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, but the movie came out after TNG started
james boucher Right! He was playing his own grandfather!
Max Grodénchik, who played Rom on DS9 first played the Ferengi Sovak in TNG 3x19 Captain's Holiday
Wow, totally missed that! Thanks for sharing!
Ethan Phillips also appeared as a hologram in First Contact :-) Interestingly, he asked not the appear in the credits to make it difficult for people to quickly confirm if what they saw was indeed the same actor who played Neelix (way back before IMDB or Wiki was available).
Good work. Why rush the Vaughn A. bio at the end though? I’d like to see exactly what and when he played.
Idea to cover: Memory Alpha writes about Tom Paris:
"Reasons for not simply bringing back the Locarno character have varied. It may have been because they would have had to pay royalties to the writers of "The First Duty" every episode, even though in interviews the producers of Voyager have said they felt Locarno's actions in that episode made him irredeemable. ("Memorable Missions Year Five" ("The First Duty"), TNG Season 5 DVD special feature) Later, a photo of McNeill as Locarno was used as a photo of young Tom Paris on Admiral Owen Paris's desk in the episode "Pathfinder"."
I also remember something like that Worf was to appear in one of the Mirror Universe DS9 episodes, but he didn't so they invented a new klingon character.
So there are these almost-canon connections. And the whole royalties things seems interesting to me, how does that work, who wrote which episodes and characters and so on.
I'd always heard he was supposed to be Locarno in _Voyager_ but they just created a nearly identical character to avoid paying royalties. I was really expecting him to mention it in the video.
Gene Dynarski played two characters. He played Ben Childress in “Muds Women” and Commander Orfil Quinteros in “11001001”.
Let's not forget JG Hertzler's portrayal of Laas in DS9.
i noticed a few years back certain scifi shows would hire each others actors. star gate especially was taking cast from various shows including farscape & andromeda, then some of their actors went on to star trek as well. even before that i used to watch gargoyles & noticed how much of the cast came right out of STNG. might be interesting to track all the different actors & see where certain films & series have some interesting cast overlaps. for starters, check out the 1989 film Arena, which has Marc Alaimo & Armin Shimerman years before DS9.
I guess it doesn't fit the parameter of the video, but one casting choice that I found totally bizarre was JG Hertzler as the changeling Laas in the season 7 DS9 episode "Chimera" - just so odd because Martok was such a frequent presence on the show, I would imagine most of the audience figured out it was the same actor almost immediately. Why not hire someone else?
Adam Lytle yeah it ruined it for me cause i recognized the voice.
I remember reading somewhere that he wanted to try something new. But that was years ago so don't ask me to source it.
I noticed it at the time as well but the name he was credited with for that episode war Garman Hertzler so I just presumed it was his brother or something. The internet wasnt really what it is today back then so it was only in recent years that I figured out that I was right at the time and it was actually him. Garman was the "G" in JG Hertzler apparently.
I think Voyager producers originally wanted the Tom Paris character to actually be Lucarno from that TNG episode, but it would've meant giving a lot of money to the writer of the original story so they just changed his name and back story.
Wayuun character actor also played the main Andorian in Enterprise.
Tim Russ also appeared as a thief in TNG, one of the thieves on board the enterprise during it's sweep, when Picard went back to get his saddle.
Swidhelm That was in the vid. “Starship Mine”
I recognized all of the recurring roles when they were out of makeup, but had no idea about most of the rest ... 🖖
Ya forgot James Cromwell, from the movie generations and two episodes of enterprise, also played several guest episodes of TNG, AILENS... only recognizable by his voice.
He was also on DS9 as the alien from the Gamma Quadrant that Quark swindled, got stuck in a room on the Defiant with when a faulty torpedo stuck in the wall they had to disarm while attempting to take Odo home to be cured. For years I thought it was Auberjonois as Odo only made one brief appearance in the show but nope it was Cromwell.
Kang, Kor, and Koloth all appeared in TOS and DS9 played by the same actors. 25+ years after there inital roles. Also Spock's father Sarek also appeared in TOS and TNG, a 15+ years gap. These are the ones i remembered that didn't appear on your list.
Never liked Koloth. Too small and wimpy and polite for a proper Klingon, in my opinion. Although still not as effete and ineffectual as Kras.
hertzler also played another changeling in the ds9 episode "chimera"
wow, how could you overlook Mark Lenard who Is the first Romulan seen in (Episode 15 "Balance of Terror" of Season 1of TOS)then went on to play Spock's Father (Episode 10 "Journey to Babel" Season 2 of TOS) and in all the movies and TNG
Was also first Klingon onscreen in the movies. Speaking the first Klingon dialog written in Klingon, written by James Doohan.
Tim Russ was also in star trek 6 on the bride of the Excelsior.
Ethan Philips also played (uncrediet) the holographic host in First Contact
Majel Barrett also played Deana Troi's mother in TNG.
You should do an episode on how often Troi crashes a ship. I know that 'Skin of Evil', 'Generations' and 'Nemisis' (although the latter she was ordered too) she crashes but there must be times she piloted shuttles or whatever and didn't crash.
I think the times they drag her ass out of a crashed shuttle she wasn't driving she was just jinxing the pilot perhaps.But everyone crashes shuttles in Star Trek they go through them quicker than I get through socks.
Djarra she wasnt a pilot so only rarely piloted anything
90 Lancaster and Armus was the reason that shuttle crushed. So it wasnt her fault or the black pilot
'Skin of Evil' Prito is knocked out and Troi takes over, although it could be that her intervention was the reason the shuttle didn't burn up and both her and Prito survived. (unfortunatly for Prito he was later killed by Nagelum after sitting for Wesley who inexplicably vanished during the commercial)
But it is a fan thing that she crashes everything, but there must have been times when she helmed a real ship (not holographic) and didn't crash.
Most of these have also played other minor characters in Star Trek, I think some of the instances were given names so I understand why the weren’t mentioned here
The actor who played Kirk's son (David Markus) in ST 2&3 played a role in one of the TNG episodes.
Saalk Z. A. Yes, “Symbiosis”, which also starred Khan’s son.
Raja1938 Yes you're right, how could I forgot that.
Here's an idea: it's probably not considered a big deal in this day and age, but once upon a time, DS9 and B5 fans had a bitter rivalry over the marked similarity between the two shows. And, there were certainly a number of jabs the two productions took at each other (Bashir having to babysit bickering ambassadors, Ivanovna using the words "Deep Space Franchise" verbatim, etc), but also the occasional shared cast (Bill Mumy, Lenir on B5, played a small role on 'Siege of AR558'; Patty Tallman played Lyta Alexander on B5 and a number of bit parts on DS9) and who could forget the infamous double-booking of Robert Foxworth (Admiral Leyton, General Hague)? But then there are the virtually identical roles filled by main cast members; Kyra and Delenn are both deeply spiritual people at odds with their brethren dealing with a violent history, Londo and Garak are disgraced men who love their home, the Dominion/Cardassian relationship mirrors the Shadow/Centauri relationship, the Narn might as well be the Bajorans and Klingons combined, Sisko and Sheridan both become messianic figures, the Whitestar and the Defiant are two ships I'm hoping Daniel @ Spacedock will duel at some point, etc.
I have always wanted to see a comprehensive look at the parallels of these two excellent shows. Care to have a crack at it?
You know I made the comment the other day that Jeffrey Combs needs to appear in Discovery because he has been in pretty much in every Trek spin off:P
Jeffrey Coombs also is Shran on Enterprise....a really bad ass Andorian
Was Tim Russ actually just playing Tuvok in Generations? It sounds possible, they retconned him being on the Excelsior during The Undiscovered Country in Voyager, so he'd just be moving from one Excelsior class ship to another. Time to check memory alpha, I guess!
is the books Macet is Dukats cousin.
From Memory Alpha "Macet appeared in several of the Deep Space Nine relaunch series novels, including the Gateways Deep Space Nine entry Demons of Air and Darkness, Unity, and Worlds of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Volume One. The similarities between Macet and Dukat were explained as being due to the fact that they were cousins. However, Macet was a much more honorable man than Dukat. The Pocket DS9 story Fearful Symmetry implies that he grew facial hair as a conscious effort to lessen this resemblance. Macet joined Damar's Cardassian Rebellion and fought against the Dominion - in Demons of Air and Darkness, it was established that he commanded the fleet which attacked Rondac III in "The Changing Face of Evil"."
Jeffery Combs might be my favorite Star Trek actor.
Great video, great channel!
Jeffrey Combs also played another Vorta named Keevan.
Thanks for the ST6 spoiler alert.
1:59 Isn't that Ben Sisko's dad?
yes
Gowron appeared as a human holodeck character in tng before he was Gowron
There was also a character with different actresses that was important in Voyager.
Janeway was an ensign on TNG, for 1 episode. Season 1 episode 1, but it wasn't Kate Mulgrew in TNG
Kor was played by John Colicos in both TOS and DS9
Delvareus as well as Michael Ansara as Kang and William Campbell as Koloth. All three were TOS Klingons
I caught a mistake. The box that announces Troi's wedding was not played by Armin Shimmerman. It was Jeffery Combs
Is luggage-box-face the same actor as holodeck-balloon-face?
Watching this episode reminded my that the character Tom Paris was supposed to be that cadet the actor played on TNG. Are there other characters that got weirdly reshuffled despite original planing.
Kira was originally intended to be Ro Laren from TNG but the actress decided to take another role in a different series. So Kira was created and given all of Ro's characteristics instead. Interesting to note that that other role went so poorly that Ro had to come back to TNG in season 7 probably just for a quick paycheck. Ouch! lol
Don't forget Mark Leonard was a Romulan before he was Spocks dad...