Yeah, Claude was f*cking with Caitlin by sending her roses after blowing his head off. And by killing himself, too. It was his way of punishing others. He projected his problems onto others. Caitlin could be bitchy but it wasn't her fault he killed himself. He was a very selfish person.
One of my best friends committed suicide and her name was Deidre. She was one of the most beautiful and caring people I ever knew and I loved her with all my heart. I think of her every day and would give anything to just talk to and see her again.
Brandon Cedarleaf my ex killed herself too I couldn’t sleep for days afterwards because I called her to make sure she’s alright and told her that I loved her but she killed herself when I was at work
One of my best friends committed suicide too in July '07, his name was Billy, we grew up together. I really miss him, I wish I coulda gone to stay with him up in Toronto after my mom passed away.
Julie Erin well he is paying money to her and he still gets treated like crap at least show respect cause with out that money I don't know what would've happen to her
@@UniqueBeingMe Shane’s money hardly made a dent considering he was institutionalized a few years later because doing acid left him mentally disabled. Spike got her own ass up to support Emma
When I was in grade 11, a student took her own life. I was heavily involved in the music department and she was too. We saw each other and talked everyday, we sat together during band and talked about things we both liked. I always forgot my sheet music and she would always let me look off of hers and we’d laugh about it. We were also in show band together and had a big show happening that year. It was the very end of February/early March when it happened and our show was in May. Not as close as 2 weeks like in this episode but it still was so hard to go on without her. We had a moment in the show where we talked about her and how she was part of our music family and we dedicated a specific song to her + changed the lights to her favourite colours for it. The whole show was definitely done in her honour because of the effect of dealing with that loss and just how much she meant to a lot of us. She was a really amazing person and I miss her a lot.
@AllyLautner , I agree. While Claude clearly had a lot of problems, he killed himself at school to "show everyone" - but he had no idea just how damaging his actions would be. It's so sad. The fact that he felt that life wasn't worth living and that he wanted to cause others pain by taking his own life - shows how long-reaching and devastating suicide is.
I am so glad Wheels paid Joey's mom back for the money he took. That was very good/right of him. And it is good to see he and Joey talking again. Claude sent Caitlyn flowers just to fuck with her. That is sick. How would he know he'd be someplace thinking of her after he killed himself?? That is so creepy. I wonder if he's shocked after he killed himself about where he ended up...
I don't get the point of canceling the talent show because of what happened - it's not disrespectful to anyone, in fact, I think it would be better for them to have something that makes them happy instead of sitting around and being sad about all of it. And suicide is awful and its very sad when someone decides to do that, however claude was a creep and a terrible person to everyone around him - he sent those flowers to Caitlin and he knew it would fuck with her, that is messed up as hell
very true..he was just feeling so sorry for himself n acted like he was this big activist when all it was just an act to get cait. n when he couldnt get back with her . he had to start planning what he did n last but not least sends her flowers to make her feel bad..n i dont call reading a poem talent show..maybe for a drama club reading ya but not all sorts of talent the others were doing..glad he wasnt ard throughtout the yrs of DH
From someone with a lot of mental illnesses: Life is tough, I won't sugar coat it. But it is worth living and there is a God in Heaven who has a plan for all of us.
When you find Jesus Christ and accept him into your life and become born again regardless of what problems happen scripture says " he will never leave you nor forsake you" and this is true 100%. There will be problems including mental issues at times but he will help us and this is a fact. Much ❤ to all of you.
It was more about the principle of representation than it was about her own will or actions, but, hey, who cares when its not someone you know personally right? Since the situation doesn't affect you whether you're a character in a fictional show or just the viewer watching...
I can understand Joanne's sadness but i disapprove her idea to cancel the show.Why would a show be cancelled because a dude killed himself? Life goes on and the other students need to have fun and laugh.A student died by committing suicide but the other students are ALIVE..Lucy is right "he's gone but most of us are HERE.."well said Lucy! Shut up Joanne!
+gooberdan1 Come on! These students are not guilty of Claude's suicide! Life should stop because he killed himself and everyone should mourn and stop laughing..Life goes on!!! Wheels lost his parents and that's not the same thing. They have to laugh and be happy to show that life is stronger.
People all have their own opinions when it comes to suicide. Both Campbell and Claud (idk), had Reasons. When people say it’s selfish they have to realize it’s not like they asked to be in that space. Depression, Anxiety, and Suicide are all big problems. The way your mental state can go to such an extremely dark place is scary. But the warning signs are there, schools should talk about it. Provide Counseling that won’t tell your parents so you are more comfortable. Suicide isn’t selfish, it’s a way that shows your mind can’t Handle it no more. Like Maya tried to kill herself, that all happens when a series of even happen beginning with the death of her lover, Campbell Saunders. But she didn’t know cause he wouldn’t let her help
Suicide inherently isnt selfish, I agree with you. But it can be done with a selfish intent. Think about school shooters who kill 20 before they take their own life, theyre not doing it to end their depression, theyre doing it to avoid punishment and having their motives questioned. Claude did it to punish caitlyn, he did it in a place he knew a student would discover his body, he planned it out. Cam did it because he was under a world of pressure and he felt hopeless. Maya did it because she had a lot of untreated trauma. Neither of those were selfish. Claude was
I don't know for sure why Claude did it but, they make it seem like he did it to somehow get back at people and yes you can see it that I honestly could think that too but I don't like how they make it seem like everyone who chooses to suicide is selfish or had a reason like that it was kind of annoying seeing some of the characters talk about it like that
Well it was 1990s , people didn't talk about mental health and for the vast majority they did think it was selfish. No social media , no campaigns, no acknowledgement of suicide and prevention
I kind of wish I didn't know about Claude's suicide before I started watching. Because every episode was a " is this the episode? Is it this one? " It was less of a shock for me. But. It's also like 20+ years old so lol. But. I liked Claude's character. He could of been worked on
+Arielle S. She's acting like this, because she's afraid that if she admits to herself that it ment something to her (which leads to her being emotionless) she will break down and she feels like he doesn't deserve that. Same with Maya
I think she's angry - at the situation and doubly angry that she still feels guilty when she has NOTHING to feel guilty about. The guy was an asshole. Him killing himself doesn't magically change the fact that he was an asshole.
I think Caitlin's reaction makes a little more sense. Their relationship was not a good one. And Claude was mostly out for himself. He ignored his friend who tried to help him. He even sent Caitlin a creepy note beyond the grave. Maya's reaction seemed more heartless. Maya and Cam had something decent going. Cam was actually depressed and did not want to let anyone down, and was under a lot of pressure. Trivia: One of the producers(?) said that Maya reacted that way because they did not want to "romanticize" suicide.
Cause she is so god damn annoying as a character they're hoping she pulls a Claude and jumps off the roof or jumps in front of a car and offs her self. Two birds one stone lol
I had a mutual friend in high school. That friend you see in every class but never found the time to hang out with but you know you were buddy buddy with? He took his own life a few years ago. His name was Jaime. I think of him from time to time and wish I could have known him better.
The picture quality is terrible. 144p? Hopefully someone uploads Season 2 of Degrassi High with 360p at least for picture quality. Even 720p would be far better. Not 144p.
Snake got therapy but us in the hood see shit like this and have to keep goin like nothin happened, we got real ptsd but hope he feel better and wheels doin good 👏🏾
Exactly. There should be more mental health services and free therapy given to those in the hood. Instead of having to just bottle it and forget your emotions
When I was in 12th grade, a sophomore who got picked on a lot lured two bullies into the science lab and beat them to a pulp. Then he walked into the hallway and socked another one in the mouth and smashed his upper jaw. They had to put those three sh-ts on painkillers. Then the boy ran away. When he was caught three weeks later, he said, "I thought of killing myself, but why cash my chips before the game is done?"
nah that note was manipulative and messed up to do to caitlin when he knew how she felt and just wanted to make her feel guilty. not all suicides are selfish and his wasn't all selfish, but that was manipulative of him and sooo selfish of him to do with that note wow..
@xosuperchickox It wasn't that he was despicable. He became a little annoying...he was "different". And you know how folks treat kids who are "different"...or as I like to say eccentric.
No one should show any kind of sympathy to ppl like that. Besides if they didnt respect the person during that persons life, theres no need respecting them after death. Its too late
blackxcherry22 I agree. My dad killed himself. His family didn't care about him when he was alive. After he died. They act like they loved him so much. It's b.s.
If Claude was such a despicable person, then why does every feel so bad about his suicide? Shouldn't they be overjoyed instead since this world was better without him anyways?
@@kaileyobumsawin5000 But it shouldn't be THAT sad. If anything, any sadness should be overshadowed by ecstasy that someone which the world could do without anyways decided to punish themselves by killing themselves is totally fine and acceptable for me.
Your right I mean he should have gotten help but no he wanted everyone to feel bad for him when cam killed him self he thought everyone's lives would be better because of what zig said but Claude he wanted everyone to feel bad
@groovylocks Did he talk Caitlin into the vandalism...I don't remember that. I REALLY have not seen this eps since they first aired back in the early 90s.
Caitlyn is right he was a creep and very abusive. They should signify his death be donating money to a battered women’s shelter. That would be better not honoring a perverted predator
Yeah, Claude was f*cking with Caitlin by sending her roses after blowing his head off. And by killing himself, too. It was his way of punishing others. He projected his problems onto others. Caitlin could be bitchy but it wasn't her fault he killed himself. He was a very selfish person.
Suicide is enjoyable for haters
I understand why Caitlin did what she did. Some guys you can't be nice to at all or they think you're in love with them 🙄
Poor Snake, having to find that body. He is my favorite character
I know! Mine too!
Joey is my favourite character
It would be pretty cool to see a dead body like that. So long as it wasn't anyone that I cared about or anything.
Smooth Triston wow u fucking demom
Smooth Triston Way to advertise the fact that you're a psychopath!
One of my best friends committed suicide and her name was Deidre. She was one of the most beautiful and caring people I ever knew and I loved her with all my heart. I think of her every day and would give anything to just talk to and see her again.
Brandon Cedarleaf sorry man 🙏🏾🙏🏾😓
Brandon Cedarleaf my ex killed herself too I couldn’t sleep for days afterwards because I called her to make sure she’s alright and told her that I loved her but she killed herself when I was at work
One of my best friends committed suicide too in July '07, his name was Billy, we grew up together. I really miss him, I wish I coulda gone to stay with him up in Toronto after my mom passed away.
So sorry for your loss. There is still so much that is not understood about suicide. Stay strong.💪
Spike is seriously so perfect!!
WoodsTV Shut up bitch... 😑
Not how she treated Shane. That was ridiculous.
How would you feel if you were 14 and got pregnant?
Julie Erin well he is paying money to her and he still gets treated like crap at least show respect cause with out that money I don't know what would've happen to her
@@UniqueBeingMe Shane’s money hardly made a dent considering he was institutionalized a few years later because doing acid left him mentally disabled. Spike got her own ass up to support Emma
When I was in grade 11, a student took her own life. I was heavily involved in the music department and she was too. We saw each other and talked everyday, we sat together during band and talked about things we both liked. I always forgot my sheet music and she would always let me look off of hers and we’d laugh about it. We were also in show band together and had a big show happening that year. It was the very end of February/early March when it happened and our show was in May. Not as close as 2 weeks like in this episode but it still was so hard to go on without her. We had a moment in the show where we talked about her and how she was part of our music family and we dedicated a specific song to her + changed the lights to her favourite colours for it. The whole show was definitely done in her honour because of the effect of dealing with that loss and just how much she meant to a lot of us. She was a really amazing person and I miss her a lot.
Archie/Snake's reaction was so realistic. It was excellent. Degrassi was way ahead of its time.
I'm so proud of the girl for standing up for her deceased friend Claude.,
Why he certainly didn't care about her
he did care about her u dumbfuck
Glad to see Wheels do the mature thing and pay back Joey's mom
@AllyLautner , I agree. While Claude clearly had a lot of problems, he killed himself at school to "show everyone" - but he had no idea just how damaging his actions would be. It's so sad. The fact that he felt that life wasn't worth living and that he wanted to cause others pain by taking his own life - shows how long-reaching and devastating suicide is.
So this was what mr. Simpson was talking about to Eli about findin a classmate body like how Eli found Cam
I am so glad Wheels paid Joey's mom back for the money he took. That was very good/right of him. And it is good to see he and Joey talking again.
Claude sent Caitlyn flowers just to fuck with her. That is sick. How would he know he'd be someplace thinking of her after he killed himself?? That is so creepy. I wonder if he's shocked after he killed himself about where he ended up...
I don't get the point of canceling the talent show because of what happened - it's not disrespectful to anyone, in fact, I think it would be better for them to have something that makes them happy instead of sitting around and being sad about all of it.
And suicide is awful and its very sad when someone decides to do that, however claude was a creep and a terrible person to everyone around him - he sent those flowers to Caitlin and he knew it would fuck with her, that is messed up as hell
very true..he was just feeling so sorry for himself n acted like he was this big activist when all it was just an act to get cait. n when he couldnt get back with her . he had to start planning what he did n last but not least sends her flowers to make her feel bad..n i dont call reading a poem talent show..maybe for a drama club reading ya but not all sorts of talent the others were doing..glad he wasnt ard throughtout the yrs of DH
From someone with a lot of mental illnesses: Life is tough, I won't sugar coat it. But it is worth living and there is a God in Heaven who has a plan for all of us.
When you find Jesus Christ and accept him into your life and become born again regardless of what problems happen scripture says " he will never leave you nor forsake you" and this is true 100%. There will be problems including mental issues at times but he will help us and this is a fact. Much ❤ to all of you.
Also God bless you through your struggles ❤✝️
This is the episode that I can never forget. I miss my youth
All Joanne had to do was not go to the fucking talent show...
yeah but instead she was a feminist cunt who should have been put in her place
It was more about the principle of representation than it was about her own will or actions, but, hey, who cares when its not someone you know personally right? Since the situation doesn't affect you whether you're a character in a fictional show or just the viewer watching...
Nilah Leamen She had to try and make it all about her pain. The school was supposed to stop because she said so. Selfish SJW Virtue signaling bitch.
I can understand Joanne's sadness but i disapprove her idea to cancel the show.Why would a show be cancelled because a dude killed himself? Life goes on and the other students need to have fun and laugh.A student died by committing suicide but the other students are ALIVE..Lucy is right "he's gone but most of us are HERE.."well said Lucy! Shut up Joanne!
+gooberdan1 Come on! These students are not guilty of Claude's suicide! Life should stop because he killed himself and everyone should mourn and stop laughing..Life goes on!!! Wheels lost his parents and that's not the same thing. They have to laugh and be happy to show that life is stronger.
+gooberdan1 i think they should have done it and dedicated it to his memory.... after the kids all get a bit of counselling.
Then those students that need time to recoup SHOULD do so, but there are other people that want to move on. Either way is OK.
joanne is a feminist that just needs to screw off
People all have their own opinions when it comes to suicide. Both Campbell and Claud (idk), had Reasons. When people say it’s selfish they have to realize it’s not like they asked to be in that space. Depression, Anxiety, and Suicide are all big problems. The way your mental state can go to such an extremely dark place is scary. But the warning signs are there, schools should talk about it. Provide Counseling that won’t tell your parents so you are more comfortable. Suicide isn’t selfish, it’s a way that shows your mind can’t Handle it no more. Like Maya tried to kill herself, that all happens when a series of even happen beginning with the death of her lover, Campbell Saunders. But she didn’t know cause he wouldn’t let her help
Suicide inherently isnt selfish, I agree with you. But it can be done with a selfish intent. Think about school shooters who kill 20 before they take their own life, theyre not doing it to end their depression, theyre doing it to avoid punishment and having their motives questioned.
Claude did it to punish caitlyn, he did it in a place he knew a student would discover his body, he planned it out. Cam did it because he was under a world of pressure and he felt hopeless. Maya did it because she had a lot of untreated trauma. Neither of those were selfish. Claude was
I don't know for sure why Claude did it but, they make it seem like he did it to somehow get back at people and yes you can see it that I honestly could think that too but I don't like how they make it seem like everyone who chooses to suicide is selfish or had a reason like that it was kind of annoying seeing some of the characters talk about it like that
Claude looked like a reject from COLOR ME BADD!
I can't believe that, the ex-girlfeiend and the majority of the students were so cold-blooded with the death of their trouble deceased classmate.,
Well it was 1990s , people didn't talk about mental health and for the vast majority they did think it was selfish. No social media , no campaigns, no acknowledgement of suicide and prevention
I think that is why Claude sent her white flowers
I kind of wish I didn't know about Claude's suicide before I started watching. Because every episode was a " is this the episode? Is it this one? " It was less of a shock for me. But. It's also like 20+ years old so lol. But. I liked Claude's character. He could of been worked on
He was only a plot device to split up Joey and Caitlin
White flowers symbolize innocence
Spike is scary looking O_O I don't even understand how Emma looked the way she did when Spike looked like that
I mean u cant suddenly care after someone dies. Had it not been for ppl not caring the person may still be alive.
^that's the thing everyone was a terrible person. no one cared in the first place and didn't care afterwards.
I really don't like the fact that Caitlin is acting the same selfish/ emotionless way Maya did when Cam committed suicide.
+Arielle S. what show are you talking about?
+Keisha Salmon Degrassi: The Next Generation
+Arielle S. She's acting like this, because she's afraid that if she admits to herself that it ment something to her (which leads to her being emotionless) she will break down and she feels like he doesn't deserve that. Same with Maya
I think she's angry - at the situation and doubly angry that she still feels guilty when she has NOTHING to feel guilty about. The guy was an asshole. Him killing himself doesn't magically change the fact that he was an asshole.
I think Caitlin's reaction makes a little more sense. Their relationship was not a good one. And Claude was mostly out for himself. He ignored his friend who tried to help him. He even sent Caitlin a creepy note beyond the grave.
Maya's reaction seemed more heartless. Maya and Cam had something decent going. Cam was actually depressed and did not want to let anyone down, and was under a lot of pressure. Trivia: One of the producers(?) said that Maya reacted that way because they did not want to "romanticize" suicide.
I agree with spikes idea. But joann had a point too but she probably would of liked spikes idea if she stuck around to hear it.
in the midst of Claude's suicide , Joanne clearly upset and distraught runs off and nobody goes after her lol including Radditch! lol
Cause she is so god damn annoying as a character they're hoping she pulls a Claude and jumps off the roof or jumps in front of a car and offs her self. Two birds one stone lol
i love spike
I had a mutual friend in high school. That friend you see in every class but never found the time to hang out with but you know you were buddy buddy with? He took his own life a few years ago. His name was Jaime. I think of him from time to time and wish I could have known him better.
I agree with ally. Think so to in a why. poor snake
The picture quality is terrible. 144p? Hopefully someone uploads Season 2 of Degrassi High with 360p at least for picture quality. Even 720p would be far better. Not 144p.
It took how long to get wheels' act together
There were two series before this. The Kids of Degrassi Street and Degrassi Junior High.
Snake got therapy but us in the hood see shit like this and have to keep goin like nothin happened, we got real ptsd but hope he feel better and wheels doin good 👏🏾
Exactly. There should be more mental health services and free therapy given to those in the hood. Instead of having to just bottle it and forget your emotions
When I was in 12th grade, a sophomore who got picked on a lot lured two bullies into the science lab and beat them to a pulp. Then he walked into the hallway and socked another one in the mouth and smashed his upper jaw. They had to put those three sh-ts on painkillers. Then the boy ran away. When he was caught three weeks later, he said, "I thought of killing myself, but why cash my chips before the game is done?"
I'm with you, Snake. I'd wanna barf if I saw that too.
144p, you have never looked so good.
nah that note was manipulative and messed up to do to caitlin when he knew how she felt and just wanted to make her feel guilty. not all suicides are selfish and his wasn't all selfish, but that was manipulative of him and sooo selfish of him to do with that note wow..
6:04 "I see dead people."
rip neil hope
@xosuperchickox It wasn't that he was despicable. He became a little annoying...he was "different". And you know how folks treat kids who are "different"...or as I like to say eccentric.
I feel the same way.
i never cared for the character of Lucy she always seemed heartless.
Claude should have said sorry in the note, not I forgive you...
No one should show any kind of sympathy to ppl like that. Besides if they didnt respect the person during that persons life, theres no need respecting them after death. Its too late
blackxcherry22 I agree. My dad killed himself. His family didn't care about him when he was alive. After he died. They act like they loved him so much. It's b.s.
If Claude was such a despicable person, then why does every feel so bad about his suicide? Shouldn't they be overjoyed instead since this world was better without him anyways?
bluemountain555 It's still sad. You don't want to know someone that kills themselve
@@kaileyobumsawin5000 But it shouldn't be THAT sad. If anything, any sadness should be overshadowed by ecstasy that someone which the world could do without anyways decided to punish themselves by killing themselves is totally fine and acceptable for me.
That Caitlyn is so phony, she loves the attention.
@AllyLautner I agree, you are right, I believer he was doing it for attention and out of spite and perhaps to manipulate.
Where is wheels living now i'm so confused on that
claude was the icon
Hmm let me guess: that little dish cloth was the silencer?
Your right I mean he should have gotten help but no he wanted everyone to feel bad for him when cam killed him self he thought everyone's lives would be better because of what zig said but Claude he wanted everyone to feel bad
@groovylocks Did he talk Caitlin into the vandalism...I don't remember that. I REALLY have not seen this eps since they first aired back in the early 90s.
if I was at degrassi I woulda dummied Claude and Daryl
claude's just a coward, in every way.
Remind me of elie on dtng
Caitlyn is right he was a creep and very abusive.
They should signify his death be donating money to a battered women’s shelter. That would be better not honoring a perverted predator
@bluemountain555 good point!
i agree n u didnt get critized lol u got thumps up
Degrassi Junior High was before this
Spike it rope we two me
snake bought ice cream from me 1991 i was 13@dickiedee ice cream
cluade katelean im your ghostly stalker
red tube
KJ Blossom got pregnant by Claude
Kate is so waste. How are you going to be mad that he killed him self before he has problems and you were mean to him
@BellaSwan2222 smh
Chantelle lockwick quit please
Chantelle lockwick hair pony tail pin pony hairpin
she got pregnant t by claude
No she didn't....
I agree
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Emily Browning swimming pool bottom bubblegum
Why do they pronounce claude like that so annoying
It’s French..it is annoying lol
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6:04 "I see dead people."
6:04 "I see dead people."