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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Today Melissa and I started staining and sealing the woodshed, I am very pleased with the Ready Seal we bought, I just have to figure out the best way to apply it. It works great on rough cut lumber off the mill and Im sure it would be a great stain sealant for fences, decks, sheds, or any wood that you want to protect from the elements.
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Mike I'm a retired fence builder and I would stain our fences with the same type of sprayer you purchased and it worked fine but with a different stain product. We would have a guy with a roller following the guy spraying. No matter how careful ,the product will run down the boards and our product would spray on a wider span than what your sprayer was pushing out of your spray tip.
The smile that left Melissa's face when you mentioned the DeWalt cordless sprayer was priceless! My wife was watching and said she knows exactly what she was feeling at that moment!
I had a guy visit my neighborhood while it was finishing up being built. He did my fence for $350. He had a few 5 gallon buckets and a huge auto detailing sponge. He soaked up the sponge and wiped each panel, then he had an asistant follow behind him with a 8" brush to back brush and avoid drips and runs. They worked quick and covered alot of area fast. The sponge really helped get in between the panels. I was really pleased with the outcome.
I drilled a hole and installed a tire valve so I can pressurize the sprayer with a compressor. I got over 300 feet of fence and my deck done very fast and easy
I have been a residential painter for the past 16 years and I enjoy it very much. My advice for you is to get an airless sprayer, spray with a 213 tip and back roll all surfaces. It’s best to apply heavy and lay-off with a 1/2 roller nap. When the roller is soaked, you can unload it on a dry area off the woodshed that is next to be stained (so you won’t have double coated areas). I’m happy to answer any questions that arise. I’d offer my help but I’m in northern Michigan and that’s a hike for me for half a days work. Lol.
I stained 200 Ft of 6 foot cedar fence with Ready Seal. Used a rented airless sprayer from Home Depot. No problems .
Your color choice was beautiful “Natural Oak”
Would like to see it now since it has been a few years 😊
Melissa’s face expression at 15 minutes was priceless. Same thing my wife does when I say I need new toys, I mean tools. 😜
Melissa can say a Lot with a Simple expression , the channel wouldn't be the same with out her !
There's gotta be a special place in God's heart for the mouth breathers right?
Michael Rambo ,
Mike I would use the roller. The look on Melissa,s face when you mentioned a Dewalt cordless sprayer was golden. For information Graco Ultra Cordless Spray Gun with DeWalt Battery 17N221
Cheers from Aus
I missed the face Melissa made had to go back and see it priceless
I second it on the roller and the look from Melissa. Lol.
THE look 15:03 lol
Mike - I don’t know ... maybe DeWalt makes a 20-volt sprayer,
Melissa - 😳 (thinking ... NO! Not another DeWalt tool?)
I saw that look also!
Yeah, you need 30-40 pumps to begin with, then keep it pumped up to the max
You have to pump the pressure up.
Mike's gotta pump the crap out of that sprayer, and it stain might be too thick for the nozzle.
@@lostinmyspace4910add some diesel to it.
I always find you really have to pump those sprayers up to the max for them to work well 👍
You'll get better penetration with the roller & brush , it will take longer , but quality work always takes time ! love the colour too .
Great product MIKE, just pump up the sprayer until it gets tight and keep it pumped up tight. This is stain and not water so it takes a lot of pressure to make it spray!! I know it is thin but not as thin as water. I installed a tire air valve in my tanks and use my air compressor to pressure up all my spray bottles. Works great!!! Try it.
I did a deck years ago with a Titan airless sprayer. Then while still wet, rolled it with a 3/4 Knapp roller. Results were fantastic.
Not enough hand pump for spray you have. When you see a stream, need more pumps
is that what it is? i will have to try again.
Bob Davis duh. Haha
Mike, I once painted a house for my cousin and he had an old cellar house he wanted painted also. The cellar house siding was old rough lumber that hadn't been painted in about 30 years. I tried using a brush and a roller and it was going to take a lot of paint and a lot of time to do a small building. I bought a Wagner power sprayer and it did a fantastic job. I still have it and love it, especially for rough cut lumber. It doesn't atomize the paint so bad that you get all that over spray like an air sprayer. You get a little but not too bad. They are well worth the cost. It will work on thin stain or a good thick latex.
Ready seal is the best , I mostly use an airless paint sprayer and immediately back brush an area like 6’x6’ On area’s where you don’t want over spray , I hand brush it on. I also lay down plastic sheeting for over spray.
Yes you are getting better at the selection. Yes buy the thin natural tones, the will soak in better. You may have to thin the stain,to spray. I thin mine when i do. That roller is doing a good job.
Well too late maybe for this time. But for in the future I highly recommend using a stain pad. They have them on Amazon shur-line 9 inch pad with handle $9.05. I got mine from Lowes. I stained my deck and fence this past fall. After having a deck for 30+ years and a wood fence for 17 years. And many hours staining and using different apllication methods. I can say these pads are the only way to go. Fast no mess no waste. Try them you will LOVE them! I promise. Rough wood will tear them fairly easy. I just learned to use less pressure on those boards that were rough. So worth the money.
I had good results with Devilbiss sprayer. Right air pressure forces it into the wood and all the small cracks.
Melissa's face when Mike says he's going to buy another Dewalt tool. 😆 LOL!
Yep…from central Texas, this is without a doubt the best outdoor stain and wood protection. I’ve used a brush, rag, sponge and they all work
I've used a hand pump sprayer, Wagner power sprayer, and roller/brush method for apply fence stain. The hand pump sprayer did not work that well. Using a lower price point Wagner sprayer, worked quite well and the stain lasted just as long as the roller/brush method. I used Olympic stain (thin type, not the semi-solid) in all of my applications. I got about 5 years out of the stain before it faded enough to need a pressure wash and re-stain.
it just needs a little thinning and a way more pressure ! pump the bottle until the safety valve hisses , it will then spray as advertised !
install a tire valve on to the tank with a "air pig" to pump up pressure then you do not need to pump a much
Hey M&M, good morning. Finally a question I can answer, what me and my crew (2 guys) have always done is use a 9" long nap roller cover on a full size frame with a four or six ft. pole ( adjustable is best ) working out of a five gallon bucket with a roller screen, apply as much as the wood wants and then back brush to work it in always keeping a wet edge. Hope that helps! Love the look that people are talking about!😂😂✌🏻️
As someone how has done many stainings of decks for customers, I found this product to be the best yet. I chose to use the roller method to be the best and use a medium-size brush to stain the sides of the boards to really make a nice finish. This product is oil-based and will beat all other products oil or water-based. I do work for many very off customers who expect perfection and long-lasting products. Spraying does not give as good of results and the overspray creates more work and clean up.
Yes that was a Priceless moment watching Melissa's face at the 15-minute point they need sponsor from DeWalt can see that !!!!!!!!!!! Let's keep that smile on Melissa's face please
Used Ready Seal on a 110' of fencing built with 6' white cedar panels. Wife and I brushed it on each panel, front and back, before mounting them to the posts. The 5 gal size was just enough, and the results looked fantastic. I'll try a sprayer in a few years (hoping 4-5) when it needs another application, as it's pretty thin, and should spray fine.
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I have not read all the comments so maybe this has been mentioned already. Get a good pump up sprayer with a brass wand and nozzle. Pump it up until you cannot pump anymore. Keep the pressure high and back brush as you go. We have a log house and we stain it this way every 3 years. One person can stain the whole house with this method in two days using a man lift. Also wear latex gloves. A plastic painters suit is great also because it splashes a lot. I use a product called Woodguard. It has UV and insect protection.
Pro's to a sprayer is you get into the cracks without runs , cons ...........it's a micro coverage , a roller / brush puts more product on contact so better penetration ...........I've used both and your sprayer is not performing , should get a nice fan so adjust the tip , should screw in and out which is how you vary the fan ...........good looking product !
Spray is the way to go. Airless sprayer $450 at home depot, quick back roll and you are good. Covers all surfaces with pressure. I did our 24x36 one and a half story garage in hours.
I remember being at lowes asking the manager about outdoor stains and he was swearing up and down how thompsons is the best, dude next to me said its flat out garbage dont do it i'm telling you. manager was like i've never had a problem. dude was like it sucks! i went online, read the reviews and it had 1 star. found out about readyseal and it had 5 stars. cant wait to try it out. unfortunately nobody stocks it and it has to be ordered.
I’ve stained my log home 3 times using an airless sprayer, then followed up with a brush in the other hand. Worked like a charm.
Agreed
Airless followed by a brush.
World of difference in sprayers. Like they say you get what you pay for. I have a commercial sprayer "Graco" with a 50 ft. hose and I stained our whole house 2500 sq. ft. 2 story plus 4 car garage in one day. My wife had all she could do just to keep opening new cans and swapping them out. It was a little pricey but it was very fast.
I sprayed mine with the pump sprayer that looks like the one you have and it came with a red fan tip to spray stains and sealers, and it work great nothing like yours done
Laying here in the hospital just waiting for a OWTM upload. YESSSSSS!
I like using a roller. It pushes the product into the wood better. Use the pump sprayer for hard to reach places. Pump sprayer doesn’t have enough pressure though. Great color choice!
Looks like Tony Murphy beat me to the punch, Graco makes a cordless sprayer that uses the Dewalt batteries. Have used them before and a good investment for the amount of area you have on the sheds. Melissa's look when you said purchase a new tool was priceless - it's the same one my wife gives me every time I get a new tool, but I tell her when she quits adding to my to-do list I will stop buying tools to get them done. LOL - Stay safe.
I used a Wagner sprayer and it worked great. Ready seal is an oil based, self leveling, penetrating stain/sealer. You shouldn't have to have anyone follow you around. If you are going to use a roller, use the extension on it so you don't get splatter on you.
That big smile went south quick when mike mentionsed a dewalt sprayer!..😂😂😂...too funny!!😆😆😆
How is it holding up? I just had a contractor apply this to my deck, it seems a little slick on the deck boards, the railing sucked it up right away. After watching him I regret paying someone to do it, but the fella needed the work and I'm lucky enough to be working so I'm glad I could help someone and get to learn something too, I will be adding the annual or hopefully biannual applications.
Roll and brush
. Applies well, and with good coverage.
Just done my wooden fence with a Wagner 90, did a fantastic job. Viscosity is important had to dilute the fence stain to give a good spray. If you don't dilute it is a very splotchy spray.
The sprayer should have an adjustable nozzle, to make it more of a mist than a stream. I have used one with great results, a helper with something like a 5" or even a wider brush working it into the grain, even a good old white-wash brush will work. Good job you guys!
Wow! Mike... when mentioned, DeWalt -- that wiped the smile off Melissa's face... funny!
Just had our new cedar fence stained. Fence guy sprayed 2/3 and his wife followed with a brush. One side we couldn't spray because neighbor has a truck and trailer right behind the fence. I ended up rolling stain myself and I think my side looks richer/deeper in color than the sprayed parts. Took a bit more time, but I'm happy with the outcome.
The stain looks great Mike, I'm not a professional but I've have stain a few privacy fences and for me the rollers seem to work the best. I have also found that the runnier the stain is the better it soaks in. Thanks for another great video. The girls did a great job on the mini cabin. Hello Hunter and girls.
Wagner airless I used one on a out building a it works great and not very expensive easy to use just need electrical source
I have stained my white pine log cabin several times over the last 18 years. I tried an airless sprayer that pulls from the can of stain directly but I still had to back brush to work the stain in then I had to clean the sprayer which takes a while. No time saved at all. I now use only a 4" brush right out of the can. A Purdy staining brush works best. Cheaper brushes do not hold enough stain or clean up as well so they are too much work. I enjoy your channel and look forward to your next projects.
I'm so glad I saw this.. because I saw this exact stain in the store and was considering it but had NO idea it was so dark. It looks nothing like the photo on the can. It's a beautiful color. I'm just so glad I know the accurate color when I go to decide what I want
I use the garden sprayer alot when staining the trick to to strain it through a screen first Theres floaters in there that will plug the sprayer. A little steel kitchen sieve from the dollar store saves a lot of headaches
Did my house siding and my cedar fence with 3 - 4 inch brush. You do need to work the stain into the wood. For stain though would use high volume-low pressure sprayer . Will be of good use for the other buildings you plan Just my opinion
I tried a pump sprayer many years ago on our deck. Ended up using brushes and a roller on a pole. Have stayed with this method since. Good luck.
I love it when the kids get to experience life and go to work
I don't remember what the sealer product was that we used oa a privacy fence we built many years ago. But we used a pump up sprayer that you could adjust the fan on the tip . We cut the sealer with mineral spirits. About 20percent mineral spirits and the wood just soaked it up like a sponge. I do remember the sealer was oil base . Hope this helps.
I do like the way it looks. 😊😊😊😊👍👍👍👍💝🌎💥🍻
The roller stick is my preference. I use the roller stick to paint apartments and i found it to be most efficient ,time vs paint consumption is truely the best.
I also use a thick roller i could paint a one bedroom apartment plus start a second apartment in one day
Roller Tip.....I’ve allows used a handle extension on my roller regardless of the job. Usually a sawed off broom stick normally 18” to 24” long, or even 36”. It Provides leverage and additional distance overhead and below. Plus saves bending over each time you apply more stain / paint to the roller.
1) Airless sprayer and back brush. 2) heavy nap roller with bucket and screen 3) hand brush.
Over here in Kent in the UK we have barns that are very very old because they were painted with a black tar. With that in mind, I decided to experiment with Creosote (Creocote) mixed 60/40 with old Diesel sump oil. (Creosote comes in light and dark only!) Choosing the light one, I painted my soft wood shed, doors and garden gates. 15 years later, during the lockdown, I've just had to do then again. The wood was not rotten at all after all that time. I have a large cedar workshop that I painted with creosote just about 4 years ago, and it needs doing again already. Problem is, it does come up very rustic, but also very black when mixed with old sump oil, and the part my wife doesn't like is that it will still blacken your hand when you touch it 15 years later. But if you only want to paint every 15 years, give it a go. Old oil is free, and 5litres of creosote is as cheap as £5. That's about 3 dollars in foreign money. Stay safe all of you and keep them videos coming!
Did my house(cedar shingles), deck and posts using a roller. Applied from the bottom up, as the stain came out of the wet roller it was pushed up the wood. I thought it worked very well.
I have also used an airless pressure sprayer, which worked well, but I don't think it put as much stain into the wood.
Yes the little fence roller
I usta paint house; the owner (boss) used a binks airless sprayer *a lot*, he indicated that spraying, even at high pressure, the paint merely 'lays' on the surface, so unless you have *all* the cracks fill you need to work it in with a brush or roller.
I have a 63 ft handicap ramp for my wife. I waited a year to stain because of the treated wood. I used a 4 inch brush for the whole ramp. My father was a carpenter and he always said a brush is the best for working the stain into the wood. I think a roller with a thicker nap and they have brushes made for stain as well. Not sold on a paint sprayer for a solution.
Hi mike i have used a wagner sprayer for staining fences however you first have to adjust the fan nozel to a wide spray and don't get too close or it will run. And there will be times when you will have a run and then follow up with a roller. In side the shed it would be most helpful.Injoy staining and Have A Day.
If you use a 1/2 roller to apply + a brush and then use a 3/8 roller to smooth, then a wide brush with the grain. Hotdog rollers are a plus. No power needed
We have a cedar log home and I have been using an airless sprayer (need a good one) to get the stain on the logs then work in with a stiff masonary brush. Have been through many brands over the years, time is the real test!!! Sansin has worked the best from my experience.
I use a foam roller and a 4” stain brush. I tried a Wagner sprayer and it took longer to load the sprayer than to spray, and it still needed to be brushed in. And it was messy. But I found the tinting in the product clogged the sprayer. Even used a paint strainer, but the solid particles still clogged the tip. Same problems with the pump sprayer.
I have done the dance with cheap sprayer too. I found a flat brush, pad meant for decks, on extending pole with paint tray is best for me. Fastest, even, apply with best reach.
i agree with Tony, that look on Melissa face was priceless when talking about a Dewalt sprayer
Check the container for thinning for spraying. Most things I ever used called for that for that type of application in order for it to spread out in the fan pattern. I am not really experienced with spraying, but have painted quite a bit. It may be better with the thinning and work with higher pressure the sprayer can stand for atomizing will help.
Use the roller Mike. I sprayed my fence about 10 yrs ago and within 3 yrs the stain was peeling off. like you said you need to work it in to the wood. Great job buy the way.
Get a sprayer , that one , is not enough , like others have said , you will be happy to have the sprayer !!!! 2nd coat will be a breeze . Hellol to Hunter !!!! Awesome outro !!!!!
Need much higher pressure in the sprayer. Try increasing the pressure by using more pumps. Another option is an airless sprayer... they are more expensive but more versatile, the Graco Magnum 25xx series (~ $250) is a good example.
I sealed/stained my privacy fence a year ago. First half with a sprayer and the second half with a brush and roller. The sprayed part faded out FAST. The rest looks great.
I have stained a lot of decks and the best way I found is either a commercial sprayer or a brush. And if you are not going to use the sprayer that much you could rent one. But a good stain brush works great. Love your videos.
The birds are going to love the soffit
Woodshed/Aviary
I agree with John. Also mice and Bees.
That's the best place for squirrels nesting I'm glad somebody else seen that
Just as soon as the metal roof is on they will be nesting .
I use a painters mitt mostly ..... along with a roller and brush to give it a finish.....
I used a Wagner airless sprayer with Behr solid color wood stain on my fence twice several years apart and was quite happy with it. I used the same sprayer to paint the house which was the real reason I bought it.
Mike I just stained 1,000 feet of 7 foot tall privacy fence (Yellowood) with Cabot's Australian Timber Oil (Natural). Started out with your $20 sprayer, that lasted 15 minutes. Purchased a Graco Project Airless sprayer at Lowes ($289) + a nozzle extension, keeps you away form the spray and saves your back. Buy your stain in a 5 gal pail, drop the hose in and spray. Spray it on and back brush it i with
a deck and fence brush (Lowes or Shermin Williams). You'll spray the back of your shed in 15-20 minutes. Follow the instructions to start and clean the sprayer and it will last for years.
I have used that sprayer for various products and it worked well. The first thing to do is put it together and try it with plain old water in to set it up and get use to it, this way you find out if it has anything wrong with it and you don't waste any product. The stain should be poured through a paint strainer when filling the sprayer to avoid little particles clogging the nozzle and you have to pump the sprayer up to the max to get a good misting pattern. The streaming pattern that I saw was either #1 not enough pressure, #2 partially clogged nozzle or to thick of product .
I built my barn 30 years ago, sided it with hemlock, never stained or sealed it, let it gray naturally. Still looks great.
The people you may have talk to was using an air-less professional spray rig. You can rent them at any rental center. But to add, there is a little bit of a learning curve. For clean-up is usually just soap & water, except for some lacquer or oil base. Just check the clean-up direction on the can.
We used Ready Seal on our new deck, applied with a roller and a brush. You made the best pick with this product - Well done!
I did the same exact thing, got frustrated and, went and bought a Greco airless did a fantastic job! Now I have a sprayer for all my wood needs! Buy once cry once!! So they say.....
but i have found there a big pain to clean after
We've stained our log home twice now, its plenty of brushing and rolling, even with a Graco pump sprayer! But the sprayer is very easy to operate, applies plenty of stain, but must be back brushed/rolled. The shed looks really good with that stain. Renting a sprayer might be more cost effective, not sure.
Try a 5 gal. bucket with a mesh to get excess off the roller the mesh hangs on the inside of the bucket on an angle can be bought at Lowes or home depot paint dept. pro painters use them instead of a roller tray you also need an extension handle for the roller way much more efficient hope that helps use a tight nap roller also
Spraying is definitely the way to go. Go rent a sprayer electric sprayer, you can adjust the pressure to get the right penetration. Might have to have someone go behind you. We put two coats on our 30 x40 garage in about 7.5 hours. The rented sprayer will hold 5 gallons of stain. It lasted for 8 years before we had to do it again. The exterior is T111, don’t know if that would make a difference.
Sorry to say mike, brush all day long tried spraying myself you still need to follow up with a brush or roller to get in the gaps and grain of the timber so might as well stick with the brush. Cheers from the uk.
When I did the T111 on my house I used a airless sprayer to apply the stain then fallowed up with a roller and brush for the corners
Applied 20 gallons of stain last year and used a power sprayer followed by a roller. Works best with two people. Absolutely is the best way to go. Fastest and most complete coverage. Able to apply more gallons per minute than other methods.
Stained my pool deck and privacy fence with wagoner 990 airless out of 5 gallon containers worked perfect using redi seal
Finally got those girls out there to stain the cabin.
Your dividing and conquering with all there is to do.
And the shed looks great that color stain.
Great job yall
getting ready to stain the deck with this product, decided to go roller but wanted to watch from videos and came across this - love the Goldens!! I've been so stressed out and just seeing them made me feel so much better. I've had 5 in my lifetime and am dogless a little over a year now so I really needed this. ♥
Mike and Melissa, the stain looks great!! I have a fence staining project coming up and will definitely consider the Ready Seal. A rented or purchased airless sprayer (Graco X7 - around $400.00) would be the fastest way to get it done but the spray tanks work fine for smaller jobs like this. Use a tip with a wide spray pattern and adjust (twist) the tip to fine tune the pattern and volume. Consider re-stirring and thinning the stain if it won't go through the nozzle. I've stained my fences multiple times with good result using a spray tank. Have to use the right spray tip, keep the pressure up and have someone chase you with a roller on a pole. It goes extremely fast. Your whole shed could be stained in an hour our so with a spray tank and a helper on a roller. If you decide to go with just a roller, put your stain in a 5 gallon bucket with a grate. Apply with a roller on a pole and chase drips with a brush. Much faster than a tray.
A deck boss brush on a pole is an excellent way of back brushing And it is fast. Deck boss can be acquired through the paint life company
Pump and pump and pump. You need to pump that thing until you hear air leaking. That’s the safety valve. Then start spraying. And don’t go far until you need to pump, pump, pump more. Also the more liquid you have in the sprayer they more often you will need to pump it up. Again pump your heart out!!!! I use one like that to spray garden, fruit trees, etc.
I had a electric Wagner sprayer. They work great. Around 90.00. But I never had luck cleaning them up and getting a good second reuse. But when painting a house it is money I will spend every time. Times money.
I used a pump sprayer for my fence, worked VERY well. It was Olympic stain, lasted 6 years now, no re-apply, yet.On the deck as well, but where there is foot traffic , needs re-applied every year , as you might think .
For paint or stain 4x6in. sponge with handle you can also put a broom handle to make it easier.You can do a 4x8 sheet of plywood in 5 minutes. I bought mind at Lowe's
On the sprayer I believe the "Nays Have It." Melissa's look out yonder said a bunch load in the non verbal way. The roller really is best I think, you can work the stain into the wood as needs be. It looking good with what you have done with it Mike. Have at it!
Oh yes, As you said - A Staining Party with the kids - all with rollers and brushes as needed would work......family time[more of it].
Yes,,, Spray ! It gets the cracks. If you get a lot of Saugus, use the roller after spraying. [Brush and roller 2 1/2 hours,], [ Sprayer, about 8 minutes ]. Use roller if yer a lousey sprayer and dont let off the button at end of spray path when you go back and fourth. One continuous spray sags. Start / Stop spray pattern means no sags.