Aboard Air Defense FREMM Frigate LORRAINE
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Brief presentation of the FREMM DA (Air Defense) LORRAINE (D657), the 8th and final FREMM Frigate built by Naval Group for the French Navy (Marine Nationale).
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Naval News had the rare chance to embark on LORRAINE as the vessel departed the Naval Group shipyard in Lorient for the last time. The frigate will be formally delivered to the French Navy in mid-November 2022.
At the shipyard, construction is ongoing for two Gowind corvettes for the UAE Navy as well as FDI frigates for France and Greece.
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Big thanks👍Xavier (Naval News), Naval Group n French defence for allowing us see Lorraine weapons systems outfits. Looks impressive frigate, for Lorraine Fair winds, Following seas.👍
Thank you for the positive feedback Jamie👍
FREMM frigate so powerfull 😎👍👍 i hope Indonesian navy buy this one
Sure.... If you have money
Wait the DP
@@nabilzuhair192 waiting a credits proses 😁
Malaysia has already ordered 6 units of this
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*Maharajalela sampai sekarang Aja belum jadi Alias Mangkrak, Malon Mau Tambah 6 unit Kapal Fregate FREMM. Mimpilah Berkhayal Malaysia Tak Mampu Membeli Karena Tidak Punya Uang Akibat Skandal 1MDB 🤪🤣*
We welcome FREMM to the undefeated Greek Navy !
Great looking ship they got.
Ma frégate préférée 💪 🇫🇷 👍
Une vrais quiche😂😂
Slt dutch
@@user-qg8bj7it2v salut Vilain 🤣👋
@LOLO / VAL the F D I ...my Love For Ever !!! 😘😘😘 😉 ( La Fremm c'est mon ex ) Vive les " p'tites jeunes " 🤣🤣
@@user-qg8bj7it2vle p'tit frustré 😘 Incline toi devant la Puissance Française !!! 💪 🇨🇵 ✝️ 👍
Nice , now we just have to wait for the 1rst FDI !
Let's GO !
Yes and we will be there to cover the launch of the first FDI 👍
Sous-armées et sous-équipée, pour un prix final quasi-équivalent aux Horizons, jugées trop chères à l'époque... La gestion des programmes Horizons et Fremm : une vaste de blagues de technocrates dont le passe-temps est de balancer notre argent par les fenêtres ! On avait besoin de 6 frégates AA, d'une douzaine d'ASM et d'au moins 6 frégates polyvalente (Les fameuses fremm-AVT). On se retrouve pour un prix final quasi équivalent avec 2 frégates anti-aérienne pure, 2 fremm bricolée en anti-aérienne (même pas le SeaFire 500 en radar...), et 6 frégates ASM (dont certaines se sont fait retirés les brouilleurs et leurres pour quelques menues économies de bouts de chandelles ...)
牛比的法國海軍追風級🇫🇷👍
En faisant le bilan arithmétique le compte n'y est pas : on passe de 17 FREMM et de 4 Horizon à 8 FREMM dont deux DA et deux Horizon. Comme d'habitude en France. Par exemple pour mes C/F-70 on prévoyait 24 navires (18 ASM et 6 AA) pour finir à sept ASM et deux AA.
Et pour un prix quasi équivalent avec les réductions d'effet de séries et indemnités de rupture/modifications de contrat ! 😂 Sérieusement certains décisionnaires devraient être jugés pour haute trahison après cette série de gabegies technocrates! 😓
Il y a 5 FDI à ajouter et apparemment ca sera plutôt 8 ou 9 que juste 5
Great to see!
Would be a dream for the PN to acquire a variant of the FRDA with SEAFire phased array radar and Aster 15/30 missile for anti-air warfare (AAW) as part of the Fleet Desired Force Mix which calls for 6 frigates.
For SeaFire I'll prefer FDI. Less crew, less supplies, less operation cost, diesel propulsion, les complicate combining gear, more automation.
love the FREMM, France or Italian, but i would chose the Italian version!
What is the range of the new Heracles radar ? How does it compare to Sea Fire 500 ?
32 Aster missiles is not enough, should be 48 at least.
Not as big as the horizon destroyers, they were essentially modified to supplement those in AAW after the rest got cancelled. but the original design doesn't have the room for more missiles.
I had always thought of PSIM's cone part placed under the central mast for an X/C band radar, then this vid said that part is made thinner because it's a blindspot. Ouchie. But anyway to continue, behind it will be the 2 diesel chimneys (Lafayette vibes), while the turbine's chimney become smaller via CODLAG config. Then behind it (front hangar) is the RapidFire ciws, while each of the hangar's topsides occupied with VL MICA cells in a single array. Raised foredeck front of bridge for 32-48 Aster blk1nt, then front of it another SeaFire ciws or 76mm, then 127mm Vulcan maingun
I'm surprised they didn't raise the radar on a mast. Won't have great range down there.
I noticed that the ship has just 1 fire control radar. I know the US Burkes and Ticos have 3 and 4 of those. Does that mean this ship can only direct 1 missile in the air at a time to the target?
No, because MBDA's Aster 15 and 30 missiles don't need the target to be illuminated (unlike Standard Missiles). They have their own active seeker (and data link) to find their way to the target. The STIR fire control radar has been added on the FREMM to improve the accuracy of the 76mm main gun against air targets.
@@NavalNews φ
Phillipines should consider buying these powerful fremm frigates from France.
La Marine nationale devrait pouvoir disposer au moins d'une demi-douzaine de frégates comme celle ci, deux c'est en dessous du minimum ! Ceci étant dit, des sous-titres français seraient intéressants pour celles et ceux qui ont l'outrecuidance de ne pas utiliser l'anglais ...
Une vidéo en français (avec interview du commandant) sera publiée lundi ou mardi 👍
France and Italian parents, this must be a beautiful child! hope this two countries would start more projects together!
"the eight and.... final"! Not a good news for France considering that France needs at least 15 new fregates to be able to hold its rank and defend properly its maritime domain which is the second biggest in the world...
The next generation of French frigates will be the FTI frigates. FREEM is getting a bit long in the tooth compared to the latest offerings on the market, although interesting they are sticking with the small size as it will limit their multi role capabilities especially for things like Unmanned air and submersible vehicles.
The Intermediate Frigate (FTI) program is a response to a requirement for 15 first-class frigates to allow the French Navy to operate in a crisis zone as recommended in the White Paper on Defense & National Security in 2013. This would see the five FTI ships join the ten FREMM (Aquitaine) & Horizon class frigates starting in 2024.
@@dbyers3897 According to some french high-ranking military officers, France shall have at least 30 frigate to be credible and capable to defend its own maritime domain.
Frigate of France & Italy!
Of France. Italian ones are an all different ship, they have in common only the name FREMM and 4 equipments (turbine, stabilisation system, electronic warfare system and sonar).
Are these French FREMMs very different from how the American ones will be?
The hulls will be similar, however the US Constellation will be slightly bigger and heavier. The biggest difference will be onboard systems which are completely different and US made (sonars, radars, EW, weapon systems, engines etc...). AFAIK the only non-US equipment is the Thales Captas-4 variable-depth towed sonar array used on Fremm
@@lordtemplar9274 not really, the hulls will be similar to the Italian FREMM (French and Italian FREMMs are different ships with different designs and different hulls, they only have in common the name, the turbine, stabilisation system, electronic warfare system and sonar).
The French do ship building so well. As does Spain. RAN has received 3 Hobart Class DDGs, 2 tanker re-fuelers, and 2 LHDs one of which is a de facto carrier, to make Canberra a carrier only minor modifications are needed, a rough cost AU$500 million. I appreciate many will disagree with me but both european navies are far superior to the RN. Having 2 giant carriers which o not have the defensive options the USN/France has, and are convention powered imo sucks up too much money. And the new French carrier design is truly stunning, it will allow the French President an enormously wide range of options. France is still in 2022 heavily invested in Africa, their special forces and military are so spread out globally France along with the US and to a lesser extent the British have enormous force projection options. Naval Group, Navantia, both part government owned. As opposed to the UK [a result of the industrial revolution where european 'governments' retained significant influence in critical areas - while the UK went the way of privatising.
I agree with you. It is plain to see to those with eyes
How is the Fremm superior to the 45? How does the non nuclear QE class suck up money?
So having 1 carrier which is only available some of the time is somehow better than having 2 meaning you have at least 1 available all time.
Also you call our carriers giant then talk about the new French one which they want to be even bigger.
Also it's not a "simple" refit for the 2 Canberra class, and Australia have no intention of getting F35B
😂😂l ' Italia insegna come costruire le navi .Fincantieri n 1 in Europa .
FREMM is a big 6000 tonnes ship. Expensive & Costly to operate too.
Most frigates are that large now.
I'm glad everyone has freaking aegis
Especially with all the s..t going on
freem and arrowhead which one is expensive????
Indonesia fregat
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@@muslimin7156practice target for PLAN 😂
seulement 8... 😥
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Indonesia berjaya
Uff...
_"The American FREMM..."_ That sounds really demoralizing.
The US Navy should name one of the Constellation class ships the Lafayette. Maybe name another one Steuben.
Chesapeake would sound great.
@@thierrymilan2039 The first three are already named and the money paid to start building those. The 3rd Constellation class ship FFG 64 will be named the USS Chesapeake.
The First 6 of the class will be named after the first 6 USN's frigates, so the USS Constellation is the 1st, the USS Congress is the 2nd and the USS Chesapeake the 3rd.
Sometime in the future the next 3 will be named: USS President, USS United States, and USS Constitution II... the original USS Constitution is still in service, so having 2 would require II.
The other 14 will be named something else; hopefully something historic. Frigates are usually named after US war heroes, so Lafayette and Steuben from the Revolutionary war would fit the naming convention nicely.
@@willw8011 Thanks to share about the Constellation Class Frigate. Another glorious name would be De Grasse, the Commander of the French Battle Naval Group at Chesapeake.
These FREMM frigates, was the design of them basically divided equally between Italian and French defense companies, or are they more Italian, or is it that the Italian one is much more Italian and the French one is more French?
@@Alsayid The FREMM was a joint venture between the French and Italians. The hull of the ship is the same, but the French have some different components than the Italians have on their ships.
The Italian company Fincantieri bought a US ship manufacturer in Wisconsin, so they were allowed to compete for the US Navy's new Frigate contract. The US Navy paid Fincantieri to redesign the Constellation Class Frigates for American made weapons, radar, and other things, so those will only have some similarities with the FREMM. Fincantieri will only build the hull of the new frigates. The weapons systems, radar, and other things will be added later by the US Navy.
jamais tu parles français?
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Il serait judicieux d'améliorer l'accent anglais quitte à faire du playback .