44. Brandon Lawson Part 1 -- Call Me Maybe

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  • @awarnoc0100
    @awarnoc0100 4 роки тому +6

    You guys are my new favorite true crime podcast. Keep up the great work!

  • @squirrellygirl8326
    @squirrellygirl8326 4 роки тому +22

    As a felon and former meth user I know what the problem is with this case. People who are not users or who have not lived on the "wrong side" of the law just can not understand the actions of the people involved. When you live life a little of the straight and narrow you approach situations differently. So these actions that are meant to "protect" yourself or cover for a loved one look sinister or off to the the outside.

    • @andreaturnquist4855
      @andreaturnquist4855 4 роки тому +4

      I'm a recovering alcoholic. Yes! Agree!

    • @springfieldpervert2736
      @springfieldpervert2736 4 роки тому +1

      hi
      as a swedish person that has been listening to this case on and off sometimes on youtube, could you please explain a little more what you mean? i don't know the mentality of the american police aswell as their opinions on drug abusers. do you think that the police are involved or killed him?
      best wishes.

    • @notbot4525
      @notbot4525 4 роки тому +8

      @@springfieldpervert2736 hey
      I'm not the original poster, but I think I can help you a little with this.
      Drug Addicts tend to avoid the police. A "routine" encounter with the police - where the addict might not be doing anything "wrong" other than being high or having a history of using drugs, can lead to problems/arrest/incarceration.
      And it sounds like Brandon might have had a warrant out for his arrest, which only compounds his motivation for avoiding police.
      People who haven't been quite as exposed to the "criminal" US drug underground might assume that someone lost and in trouble would want to see the police (because the police are supposed to be there to protect the public).
      More often than not though, there is more risk for a drug user in calling the police than in simply trying to solve the situation on their own.
      Brandon's friends might give the police misinformation, assuming that they are helping Brandon by helping him to avoid the police.
      To an outsider, someone misleading the police in a missing persons (and possible homicide) investigation looks very suspicious.
      But his friends might have e just been trying to keep the cops away from him. Because that's the mentality of many drug users and their friends. In their minds, they might have been honestly trying to help him out by misleading the police.
      At that point,, the friends didn't know that Brandon himself called the police.
      Also, the fact that Brandon called the police really conveys just how scared he was. This is probably the type of guy who avoids police at all costs, especially with a warrant for his arrest out.
      Hopefully that clarifies some stuff

    • @springfieldpervert2736
      @springfieldpervert2736 4 роки тому

      @@notbot4525 i see. thanks for replying!

    • @custardgannet4836
      @custardgannet4836 4 роки тому +1

      @@springfieldpervert2736 how's ya lips?

  • @rinokumera9977
    @rinokumera9977 4 роки тому +13

    Just strange how he is hiding from cops but calls 911.

  • @PnuttyBuddy
    @PnuttyBuddy 2 роки тому +1

    As someone who lives in Bronte, the town a few miles away from where Brandon went missing, this podcast helps a lot. Brandon Lawson has become a local somewhat ghost story, and has stirred a ton of talk about the local police. I wish more people would listen to this and understand what happened more.

  • @lindawright2790
    @lindawright2790 4 роки тому +11

    Unfortunately I have experienced a friend new to using Meth who called the police to report her home had been burglarized. Everything was in shambles and this friend was hysterical. Very convincing. Reality was my friend had done it after using. Whatever happened, this is a very heartbreaking case. Great podcasts guys. I've spread the word around FB to check you out.

  • @judyholiday1794
    @judyholiday1794 4 роки тому +5

    Another awesome video thanks guys..

  • @StephyK7
    @StephyK7 4 роки тому +3

    Hreat sgow. Brought so much to my attention that I was not lookinh st. Thank you n so glad y'all are back
    When will you drop the next video? I can't wait

  • @maureenfesler6423
    @maureenfesler6423 4 роки тому +2

    The way Brett refers to TCG and Generation Why in hallowed tones is super cute.

  • @isabellavillanueva4639
    @isabellavillanueva4639 3 роки тому +1

    Nice video. Thanks for this content

  • @pommie5093
    @pommie5093 4 роки тому

    SO glad you are covering this case too. This case has fascinated me from the first time I heard it. So frustrating as there was limited time between the 911 calls and witnesses seeing his car and when the brother was on scene. And, that 911 call is so haunting. I just listened to your podcasts on the Delphi murders and I really appreciate the amount of time and thought that goes into each video. I have only one request-maybe to lower the intro music a bit? Thank you for your time and effort on these cases!

  • @krcoop
    @krcoop 2 роки тому

    I'm from Bronte, which is a teeny tiny town in Coke CO. Brandon was from San Angelo (26 miles south) which is in Tom Green CO, my point being that I don't believe he was ever involved with the Coke County PD until this night. So to my knowledge there was no reason for that department to have a jaded view of Brandon, unless they were judging the book by his rap sheet. The "word on the street" is that there is actually more to the story than just a guy on meth who tripped out, got himself lost, and ultimately succumbed to the elements. Private land owners wouldn't allow searches, and I can't understand why they wouldn't cooperate to help this family get answers. The rumors range from paid off cops involved with the cowboy mafia to Brandon stumbling upon meth production operations, but no matter what the specifics are there's still more to this story.

  • @donnawest1126
    @donnawest1126 4 роки тому +7

    Need to search the property for a deep well. He was able to see his brother and police officer so he was close by. After the police leave he begins to walk that way but has no lights to guide him. Light on his phone may not be working due to dead battery. Drops off into a deep well. Possible? Had he fallen in the river he should have surfaced by now somewhere along the shore.

    • @juliannejasper3875
      @juliannejasper3875 4 роки тому +4

      This makes sense too. He somehow disappeared without leaving any trace behind and suddenly falling into a well would do it.

    • @andreaturnquist4855
      @andreaturnquist4855 4 роки тому +1

      Totally possible

    • @monique2499
      @monique2499 4 роки тому

      That possible i heard that the last ping from his phone came near the Colorado river

  • @colonelreb1014
    @colonelreb1014 4 роки тому +12

    Shades of Maura Murray. I can relate. I was young and my car ran out of gas. I had been drinking. A car was coming and I thought it was the cops. I kind of hung over a bridge by my hands thinking it was a small bridge over water. I found out when I went to get my car the next day it was a huge bridge over the Tennessee -Tombigbee waterway with a 100 foot drop. if I had slipped I would have fell over 100 feet into the Tennessee River and probably be on one of these podcast of people that just vanish into thin air. All because of a stupid drunken decision.

    • @andreaturnquist4855
      @andreaturnquist4855 4 роки тому +3

      Thank God you are ok!! I'm an alcoholic. Nothing good comes from using and going out.

    • @colonelreb1014
      @colonelreb1014 4 роки тому +2

      @@andreaturnquist4855 that's so true. I've struggled with alcohol my entire adult life.

    • @andreaturnquist4855
      @andreaturnquist4855 4 роки тому

      @@colonelreb1014 Me too unfortunately! I still drink too much. Life is hard 😢

    • @colonelreb1014
      @colonelreb1014 4 роки тому +1

      @@andreaturnquist4855 I do too. Vodka chased with Twist up. What's your DOC?

    • @andreaturnquist4855
      @andreaturnquist4855 4 роки тому

      @@colonelreb1014 Vodka chased with Cherry Coke. Vodka is the go to for most alcoholics don't you think?

  • @ChrisMoi
    @ChrisMoi 4 роки тому +11

    going towards Abiline on (the) *Bronte* side..

    • @SuperTonyony
      @SuperTonyony 3 роки тому +4

      No, he definitely says “both sides”.

  • @marycolella5074
    @marycolella5074 4 роки тому +8

    He says I need a cop

    • @SuperTonyony
      @SuperTonyony 3 роки тому +1

      Technically, he says, “The kawps!”

    • @marcalan1198
      @marcalan1198 3 роки тому

      @@SuperTonyony lol 👍 that's funny as heck. 😁

  • @elizabethbrown6687
    @elizabethbrown6687 4 роки тому +3

    Love your podcast! Just wanted to say that my understanding was that the truck driver that called in Brandon’s truck calls about 20 minutes down the road?

  • @lucianas4919
    @lucianas4919 3 роки тому +1

    Great episode guys! Have you looked into Brandon Swanson’s case at all? Another interesting case of someone who seemingly vanished into thin air.

  • @mattpaul5441
    @mattpaul5441 2 роки тому +1

    I was driving down the road with my friend. I didn't know at the time but he was high im meth. We see a cop and at the red light he leaps out of my car and runs. Then to hide from the cops he tries to break into an apartment and get arrested. Crazy thing is his parents were mad at me for letting it all happen. I was like. Wtf

  • @TomN..
    @TomN.. 2 роки тому +1

    Here is my theory.....he was working with informants to help get his warrant dropped. He had an agent with him and he had run out of gas because a hole had been drilled in the tank. He was high so the agent was easily able to tell him to run into the field because someone was "chasing them". Once he was on the phone with 911 the agent says protect yourself as he himself was drawing a gun on him. He had told Brandon that he got the first guy.....when he says....."we got or shot the first guy" after everyone left the agent had someone pick him up. This is my guess but adds up.

  • @sammanblue4352
    @sammanblue4352 4 роки тому +6

    Our little car requires the engine be on to charge a phone.

    • @kristalowens8011
      @kristalowens8011 4 роки тому

      I had a Ford focus that didn't require the engine to be on when charging phone.

    • @sammanblue4352
      @sammanblue4352 4 роки тому

      @@kristalowens8011 Yeah. Depends on the make and model.

  • @USALibertarian
    @USALibertarian 3 роки тому

    What is the transcript of Brandon's call?

  • @pirateofthefort
    @pirateofthefort 8 місяців тому

    “He calls his brother, Cow”
    The accent tricks me sometimes 😂❤

  • @TomN..
    @TomN.. 2 роки тому

    Out here going towards Abilene on the Bronte side. I'm from San angelo and there is two routes to Abilene.....winters side or bronte side.

  • @yetimelly523
    @yetimelly523 3 роки тому +1

    I think I've figured out what happened. It's sad.

  • @michelleshafto4141
    @michelleshafto4141 4 роки тому +3

    he sounds really high to me. and whether you can or can't make it what he's saying, whatever he is saying probably doesn't even make sense.
    but why did she stop talking to the 911 operator? was he just finished getting across whatever he wanted to say?, did the phone die? did he fall and lose his train of thought? it sounds as though he is disconnected from the call, but you don't hear the phone hanging up, weird.

    • @andreaturnquist4855
      @andreaturnquist4855 4 роки тому

      It is weird

    • @sissy9393
      @sissy9393 4 роки тому +1

      I heard him whisper “crap” when he shut up. I’m totally not liking the meth angle because it might not have been. Meth is one horribly nasty drug. He sounded very scared.

  • @maureenfesler6423
    @maureenfesler6423 4 роки тому +2

    Brett and Alice, please consider doing the disappearance of Joan Risch. That case is right up there with Brian Shafer in my view. It's in-SANE.

  • @dixienormous7049
    @dixienormous7049 3 роки тому +2

    If you cant hear the voice or voices in the background....then stay away from solving crime

  • @skelter1153
    @skelter1153 2 роки тому +1

    Everybody wants to get caught up in
    the precise minutiae of every word Brandon says, and that's not really
    going to explain exactly what
    happened anyway.
    So, what do we know?
    He's in the middle of a feild, in the middle of the night, calling 911, asking for "The Cops", saying "Please Hurry."
    He's in trouble and needs help.
    Then he disappears off of the
    face of the Earth.
    Something terrible happened to him
    at the hands of criminals.
    There's nothing in this recording
    that is going to identify who these criminals are, furthermore, there's nothing in this recording that is
    going to explain what happened
    to him, or WHERE he is now.

  • @TomN..
    @TomN.. 2 роки тому

    It's only 25 minutes from San angelo to bronte. His truck gets 16 mpg highway. He would literally have to have left on fumes.

  • @marycolella5074
    @marycolella5074 4 роки тому +2

    Sounds like he’s saying taking into the woods that’s all I got and also screeching cops

  • @TomN..
    @TomN.. 2 роки тому

    It seem like they could narrow this down to the cell phones that were pinging off the tower ...being that there is very little activity out there.. I think his brother himself was high and anyone could have called from Brandon's phone

  • @MountainGirl420
    @MountainGirl420 4 роки тому +9

    Every adult, especially parents, should always keep a full tank of gas. It’s crazy how many bad situations, disappearances & murders could be prevented if everyone kept their tanks full!

  • @TomN..
    @TomN.. 2 роки тому

    The agent told him not to say that he was there.

  • @franciscogonzales2123
    @franciscogonzales2123 4 роки тому +7

    I have been around meth users and believe me they hallucinate both auditory and visual. The classic situation, the classic meth hallucination is someone trying to kill them or chase them or both

    • @franciscogonzales2123
      @franciscogonzales2123 4 роки тому +8

      Okay, I got no shame I guess. one time I did way too much meth, and I thought the police were after me. I thought I saw laser sights from guns in my windows. I took the battery out of my cell phone and put it in an air vent and put my cell phone in another air vent. the hallucinations lasted about 6 or 7 hours. If I wasnt safe in my house at the time, fuck knows what would have happened. lesson learned

    • @squirrellygirl8326
      @squirrellygirl8326 4 роки тому +4

      I can admit I have been in the throws of meth psychosis myself. I was sure people were after me. My husband had to physically bring me back in the house several times. I can only imagine what would have happened if I had been alone. I've also thought people were watching me from my attic of creeping around my back door. It's a hellofa drug for sure.

    • @maureenfesler6423
      @maureenfesler6423 4 роки тому

      I had a boss who used meth and this explains a lot about her. I had no idea.

    • @snailbellonthetrail982
      @snailbellonthetrail982 4 роки тому +1

      I saw my son do both. Scariest stuff I ever saw. Meth psychosis definitely.

    • @SuperTonyony
      @SuperTonyony 3 роки тому

      Life is tough enough without ingesting substances that make you believe that you have problems that don’t even exist. This is one of many reasons why our species is doomed.

  • @mtphill71
    @mtphill71 4 роки тому +12

    It's not that difficult to understand what happened. He was under the influence of meth and was hallucinating. He ended up in the Colorado River.

    • @FromThe3021
      @FromThe3021 4 роки тому +1

      Whatever makes you feel better.

    • @andreaturnquist4855
      @andreaturnquist4855 4 роки тому

      I think he is in water

    • @colonelreb1014
      @colonelreb1014 4 роки тому +1

      Probably.

    • @snailbellonthetrail982
      @snailbellonthetrail982 4 роки тому +1

      I think so too. Meth psychosis definitely.

    • @truss6282
      @truss6282 4 роки тому +3

      It's summer of 2013 in West Texas. There might have been enough water in that creek to get your toes wet. That didn't happen.

  • @bobjones3369
    @bobjones3369 4 роки тому +5

    Whoever listened to the 911 call, put your subtitles on for it, it refers to gunshots in mine..

    • @andreaturnquist4855
      @andreaturnquist4855 4 роки тому +2

      Mine too

    • @SuperTonyony
      @SuperTonyony 3 роки тому +1

      Those are traffic noises, not gunshots. Brandon’s brother says that there is an old iron bridge nearby, and when semis go over it, it makes loud booming noises.

    • @blake7871
      @blake7871 3 роки тому +2

      @@SuperTonyony His brother is wrong. That’s clearly gunshots, and either from a rifle or shotgun.

    • @dixienormous7049
      @dixienormous7049 3 роки тому

      @@SuperTonyony the dude says. "I got shot" yes man....a semi going over the bridge shot him...guess it wasn't a backfire

    • @julieann4616
      @julieann4616 3 роки тому

      @@dixienormous7049 who would ever nonchalantly say, “I got shot”, and then refuse the offer of an ambulance.

  • @jameswhoever3730
    @jameswhoever3730 3 роки тому +2

    So Kyle went and got the gas can from Brandon's house, drove I believe a good ways to get to Brandon, but didn't have gas, and then went to get gas? Who would drive that far without gas first.

    • @Luvlythreadz
      @Luvlythreadz 3 роки тому +1

      Kyle's check hadn't cleared and he didn't have the money to get him gas. So he was going to get Brandon because he had money, then they'd get gas and go back to the truck.

    • @monique2499
      @monique2499 3 роки тому

      I wonder if he was really being chased like he stated by some people and ran out of gas once he got on the highway and they caught up to him. It wouldn’t make since to take a 3 hour drive without filling up.

  • @melindabolish9220
    @melindabolish9220 4 роки тому

    First- was his truck really out of gas? Second, if he could see Kyle when he was talking to the cop then why didn't he come out when the cop left? Was his phone on silent? Could kyle not hear it ringing if he was that close? Brandon said he was bleeding, did they find any blood? Any where is his body?

  • @derekchauvinistrockwellthe4917
    @derekchauvinistrockwellthe4917 4 роки тому +1

    You don't hear the loud pops right after his last words? Can't say definitively gunshots bit sounds like it. What else are they? Sounds like gunshots to me just not from extremely close.

    • @kristalowens8011
      @kristalowens8011 4 роки тому

      They said it was someone going over the railroad track...

    • @Lukronius
      @Lukronius 3 роки тому +2

      @@kristalowens8011 Kyle (Brandon’s brother) said it’s someone driving over the seams in the bridge/road. The kind that you speed right over without noticing. There are no railroad tracks out there.

    • @aniassantiago6445
      @aniassantiago6445 3 роки тому

      Those pops you heard was from the semi truck going over the bridge. His brother Kyle said in an interview that Brandon was probably standing underneath or near that bridge when he made that 911 call. Its probably the same truck that called 911 about his truck abandoned on the side of the highway.

    • @derekchauvinistrockwellthe4917
      @derekchauvinistrockwellthe4917 3 роки тому +2

      @@aniassantiago6445 I don't buy it. Thats a road that was described by a local cop as a street you could lay down in the middle for hours and probably not get hit. Then suddenly, right as this weird activity and 911 call goes silent, 5 or 6 cars pass by in rapid succession? That in itself would be suspicious, even if it were true. But yes I'm aware of the claim.

  • @rinokumera9977
    @rinokumera9977 4 роки тому +1

    I can make out he said he has taken to the woods, I wasn’t talking to them I ran into them .

  • @USALibertarian
    @USALibertarian 3 роки тому

    He wasn't trying to evade the police. The cops should have taken the 911 call to the family immediately.

  • @TomN..
    @TomN.. 2 роки тому

    A guy is chasing "us" through the woods.......detective got the first guy"

  • @melchiando
    @melchiando 4 роки тому +2

    Where's part 2? Alice is single! Allllrrrriiigghtt!

  • @jerrymarbury9365
    @jerrymarbury9365 Рік тому

    Id be surprised if the best trained 911 operator on the planet could've done much better with that disorder coming thru their headset.

  • @kathisimmons3971
    @kathisimmons3971 2 роки тому

    He says "we" so there is someone else,I heard it thru earphones

  • @brenmanock
    @brenmanock 3 роки тому

    Perhaps he was high and hallucinations were freaking him out. And therefore just ran off and something tragic happened

  • @c956rubber
    @c956rubber 3 роки тому

    His brother Kyle states he was high as a kite...Meth Psychosis is the best thing I can only come up with...you can be very aggressive ( Kyle states brandon told him more or less that he was a coward for not getting away from the cop) also the 911 call that brandon does is simply a hallucination...all in his head, its 1 am and with that drug in your system being dark as hell, im sure brandon was paranoid, aggressive, and seeing shit that wasn't there... that explains the Mexicans chasing him...brandon hadn't used in a while according to his brother, but after passing that drug test for his new job...he figured he could get high and brandon went on a binge...thats why ladessa was pissed at him, so when brandon got home he wanted to leave to his dads who was 3 hrs away, when his brother lived across the street from him, thats where it all started, 3 hrs away was 3 minutes away to Brandon. I personally think brandon was driving on HWY 277 and all of a sudden he felt someone was chasing him, which made him park his truck the way he did and he ran to the bushes...brandon makes his phone calls and 911 call which all sound like he was delusional and hallucinating, it was all made up by brandon....that explains why brandon would just hang up when he would talk with someone...I strongly believe Brandon ran for his life in those woods in paranoia and was probably shot by a homeowner that had a rifle and that homeowner buried him in his ranch.

  • @jerrymarbury9365
    @jerrymarbury9365 Рік тому

    Obviously his remains were found I can imagine him getting rattlesnake bit out there and dying.

  • @TNcatlover33
    @TNcatlover33 4 роки тому +5

    I agree with you Brett except it does sound like Branden says “he shot one of them” something to that effect. I believe he is high and has slurred speech. I also believe the hogs have something to do with why he’s never found

    • @j3ssmari371
      @j3ssmari371 3 роки тому

      I agree I think he says that as well. "They just shot one of them"
      Then he says 'they'll be no talking with/to them."

    • @julieann4616
      @julieann4616 3 роки тому

      @@j3ssmari371 who in your life has ever said, “There’ll be no talkin to ‘em”? No one says that and certainly not Brandon.

    • @julieann4616
      @julieann4616 11 місяців тому

      @@AtownOriginal 😵‍💫

  • @laramauss1968
    @laramauss1968 4 роки тому +4

    😅 imagine you are -like me- from Europe/Germany and you hear that mumbo-jumbo for the first time 😲, you would think 30 Years of learning English was in vain 😂
    PS an update to this case on another channel reported Brandon WAS using meth on this night, source: his brother Kyle

  • @RailGunZ-wf1df
    @RailGunZ-wf1df 4 роки тому +1

    He said, "Why'd you kill the pig, They're farmers they got to make a living...". Oh no that's from the movie Platoon. Seriously, I dispatched for 13 years and I can't really understand most of that.

  • @UnderCver-bd1xh
    @UnderCver-bd1xh 3 роки тому

    Sounds as if you're blaming the victim. So wrong. Don't throw stones...

  • @mistisimpson5504
    @mistisimpson5504 3 роки тому

    a note about the 911 "center'. In a town with no hospital, clinic, fire dept. etc...this staff was probably the .most medically trained group available to assist via phone in emergency

  • @drifamagnusdottir2170
    @drifamagnusdottir2170 4 роки тому +1

    I presume its drug bender/trip gone bad. (not as it ever goes right)
    The 911 call is for me ike listening to someone speaking english/German/Norwegian with Ukrainian origin, twisted in some make believe horror story.
    But where he got lost?
    Maybe found his way to Ukrainia?
    Haha.
    Complicated case.

    • @drifamagnusdottir2170
      @drifamagnusdottir2170 4 роки тому

      @@truss6282 english is not my first language so it’s not strange I don’t understand a word 🙈

    • @ianalen1687
      @ianalen1687 3 роки тому +2

      I like his texan accent, but midwest accent is something unbearable.

  • @j3ssmari371
    @j3ssmari371 3 роки тому

    I agree except. There is someone that says "protect yourself" after 911 caller says, "oh u ran into them?"
    Your insane if u think he seems calm? I always call 911 when I'm calm. Are you serious? he's out of breath, not lol when he says "no I need the cops"

  • @EmiliusReturns
    @EmiliusReturns 3 роки тому

    Never got the “staper” thing. I always heard “this guy was just pushing guys over.”

    • @SuperTonyony
      @SuperTonyony 3 роки тому

      “State trooper”, definitely.

    • @j3ssmari371
      @j3ssmari371 3 роки тому +1

      He's saying state trooper it's just southerners blending our words GAWD SO ANNOYING. PPL ACT LIKE THEY ARE SO FUCKING PERFECT

    • @julieann4616
      @julieann4616 3 роки тому

      I’m thinking the “state trooper” he may have been referring to was the one who was called to his truck.

  • @rttyplgkdde
    @rttyplgkdde 3 роки тому

    One of the worst analysis of this case !
    If Brandon called 911 it's because he feared for his life, not because he was doing a prank...

  • @user-ux6tk8pi9i
    @user-ux6tk8pi9i 3 роки тому +1

    His brother killed him