SHTF Guns, Let's be REALISTIC!
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- In this video, we will discuss the philosophy of realistic carry for a SHTF situation in the US. We dig down into some history of weapons confiscation and what you might need to purchase so you can defend yourself.
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I’m wasn’t recommending a staccato as the gun to carry for this situation. Should have worded that better. I said buy cheap. But I only used my staccato as a prop because it’s usually on me. I shoot with it infinitely better than anything else. That being said, my recommendation would be to get a Glock even though I don’t like them much. It’s essentially the ak of the pistol world.
I'm just a old marine corps combat vet from Vietnam and I'm a old man now but I did six tours in country Vietnam and I don't have anything against guns or what any person chooses to own I'm absolutely pro second amendment I have a single shot break action shotgun and a pump action my old src 30-30 that was passed down to me in 77 and my m77 Ruger 270 a old Remington tube magazine 22 rinfire rifle my father's 1911 a1 that he somehow was able to bring home with him from Europe in ww2 and My s&w mod 25 in 45 Colt that's the extent of my arsenal never thought I'd need more than that ever I used to bird and small game hunt and deer hunt and fish I don't do any of that anymore but I am determined to keep what few guns I own
S&w sd9 is cheaper just as dependable and half the price. New trigger makes it in my mind superior. There are 20 others, Glock is an easy answer not the best answer.
I shoot my 2011s better than any other pistols I own. That said, I have G19s or Shadow Systems MR920s laying around in various spots. The Staccato C2 is solid and reliable and will work for a long time even without being maintained.
My larping is trying to convince my wife that bad things might happen.
What you fail to understand is that they will take them by force. Your answer is that everyone should just comply. NO. You gear up and defend with equal or greater force. I was working there during Katrina. Was the one who set up operations the day after it hit and worked all three states. The local LE was displaced and those on the ground were from out of town out of state and lots of federal agencies. No jurisdiction. An unconditional mandate is not a legal pass. If you allow your property to be confiscated, then you ALLOWED it. There is danger in a fight for freedom. Freedom isn't free.
The gear is needed. Civilians, run your kit.
idk man i feel like best thing you can have prior to all of that is being physically fit! and a bonded community!
Can't if the gov keeps one poor.
@@whitelotus6619 Democrats prefer to keep their lowly subjects cold, hungry, broke, scared, unarmed, defenseless, and dependent on the Government just to survive
Great argument. Well stated. Dolt
Yes, just be strategic about it
I’m not sure what state you are in however I have been in Law Enforcement in Texas for 35 years.
Here in Texas we created a State Law that allows Citizens to be armed during a disaster, not only that we have Constitutional Carry here in Texas.
When I was in the Guard I would have refused to fallow an unlawful order and as a Law Enforcement Officer I would also refuse.
My Sheriff as well as all other Deputies believe in the Constitution and would stand between the Citizens and anyone who would be foolish enough to even attempt to disarm us.
We have similar laws in my state. Constitutional carry and all. But they've proven time and time again, if the emergency is bad enough, they will suspend your rights. Just look what they did in New Mexico last month with suspending conceal carry rights over a shooting. They are itching to use their power in many of these states.
@@sigma3survivalschoolAnd none of the sheriffs departments would enforce it.
God bless Texas
I agree with you Sir, I am a LEO in NC with 23 years of service. I would never comply with taking firearms from law abiding citizens. Also when are you going to retire? My last 7 years can’t get here fast enough
Righggghhhhhht
You’re assuming we are all going to just comply with their bs
insurgencies or revolutions require ammunition resupply and some form of sustainability. US Citizens have none of that. 1/3 of all 5.56 ammo is currently provided by the Lake City government facility. One common theme in all revolutions is resupply by outside forces. Even in the revolutionary war we had manufacturing capability to fight the english and the french supplied us as well. All you have in the US is what is currently on the street and once martial law is established, all supplies will dry up almost immediately. A long term fight is non sustainable and would be the end of the US as we know it. Especially with China and Russia just looking for weakness on our end.
@@sigma3survivalschool another common theme is Guerrilla warfare where small units attack and retain gear from the enemy as a means of resupply. I suspect if it gets bad enough here that Marshall law is instituted there won’t be much hope in the minds of the citizens and as Sun Tzu points out giving the enemy no hope and nothing to lose is never a good thing. Maybe before the pandemic people would comply more but with the distrust of the government now I don’t see it happening again
Research how many resistance forces got their weapons,ammo and explosives when their countries were under occupation by the nazis in WWll.
Any foreign troops that invade the US will be a source for "military grade" firearms, ammo and other items. Battlefield recovery.
@@sigma3survivalschool Resupply comes from the Troops the Government or UN sends out to suppress the population.
@@sigma3survivalschoolyes, we can’t forget all those large ammunition and weapons manufacturing facilities that the Taliban set up
I was a young EMT (22 years old) deployed to the superdome at Katrina, my team was clinical and mostly liberal who deployed from the Bay Area, lets just say that after the deployment, most of the team later talked about returning home and buying guns as they witnessed society collapse around day 4 of our response and knew that civility is razor thin.
All that left-leaning shit goes out the window when people start getting hungry, it's why it never stands the test of time.
interesting read man, thanks for your service.
There are demographics that must be quelled or avoided regardless.
I've been around natural disasters and you are absolutely correct! Right around day 4 and shit goes crazy. The denser the population the lower the altitude, and the more convenience oriented a population is the faster and more violent social decay takes place. Just imagine what will happen if the internet goes down and electronics cease working. First responders will be taking care of their own, not you!
@@brenttesterman3171 😂My wife and I have been talking about the internet dump and what would people do, for a while 😱what if no cell service! My answer, we'll start talking face to face more. 🤣In some places, like around here, we'll get more polite than we already are, we carry.
In Katrina they took guns from a lot of people, but the people they didn’t take guns from was people in their front yards with about 20 guys that was armed they would bypass and leave it alone, but when they cut other people with guns and gun cases or cut them by surprise in their house they took their weapons when I seen the videos of Katrina, they didn’t bother with large groups of people that had guns because they didn’t want to conflict with them. They were left alone so if you have 2030 people with long guns in the front yard of your property during a pandemic, or a natural disaster. They’re more than likely to overlook that situation because they don’t want things to go bad.
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Absolutely true.
The importance of forming a tribe and banding together. A collective/group will always defeat an individual; doesn't matter who one thinks is the moral or immoral side.
That’s why we didn’t see any video clips in the hood
thats BS. my blood is boiling!
Ask the people from Katrina, NEVER again will ANY confiscation be tolerated.
They told me, a confiscation order will be akin to a declaration of war against citizens.
Better for them to work with citizens than against them. It won't be like Katrina.
Sadly, people say that, but as we seen, when it comes down to it... people give em up
Push em to far at the right time all that can change in a minute, like the first shot at Concord but on the internet.@@waylonsmith5419
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@@waylonsmith5419 will never give up anything
The vast majority of citizens don't want a shoot out with authorities. The only way it would be survivable is if you had as many armed compatriots with you as the cops did.
And this is why it is so important to pay attention to local politics and elections. If the sheriff in your county is not staunchly pro 2A you need to vote them out. Excellent, thanks!
unless you live in a state that has unelected sheriffs.
Never, ever vote for a progressive.
Many many of the natguard units were from yankeeland.
Ohio nat guard were the worst abusers and gun grabbers
@@grimw5009
What states are those?
I hate to burst your bubble, but many Pro-2A government types will absolutely abuse your rights without a second though during a disaster because they will feel like the heroes who need to be in control to "keep everyone safe" and they may not even think they are violating anyones rights.
Everything you show in this video proves to me to arm up with anything and everything the more places I have guns hidden the better.
And a small drone for surveillance to avoid issues.
@@scramjet4610as if skynet can't hack your drone... If you relying on technology, realize that the enemy is built, the infrastructure that you are going to be using to fight it, consider it compromised. That includes radios comms everything including the mobility of your souped up 4x4. It ain't moving
Probably won't even start
Not if u aint ready to use them
@@heartbroken715 ready? Everyone can pull a trigger . You can't train people . When SHTF it won't be out in your face like you think . There will be no need to conceal anything . Besides what would be the point of killing people just trying to survive like you ?
Same here
Mike Glover had a great statement about this, its only larping until its not larping, he says in the event of foreign invasion or civil break down, ex-special forces guys like him would organize groups and the very first thing he would ask is "Who has guns and gear?" If you are not self equipped you are useless to him, there is no time to train you and no body is handing out free guns, body armor, or NVG's, you either have them or you don't. So it might be larping, but larp with a purpose!
If shtf 98% of those guys with gear aren’t likely to even be able to feed themselves if Walmart goes down. Very few people in the tactical world also have legit survival skills. I should know. I’ve trained more instructors than anyone else
He also sells those skills as his primary source of income. Sooo there might be a bit of bias there. Though I do like Mike. Good guy.
While I appreciate realism, shouldn't this be told as a cautionary tale, with corrective instruction? "Men, if you don't have two weeks of food and water stored, you're wrong. Fix it. Buy an extra can of fruit, veggies, and something with meat in it every time you go to Walmart, and a bottle of vitamins every other time."@@sigma3survivalschool
The first thing I asked my neighbor was if he had a gun, I encouraged him to get an AR15. He did... and now we are friends not just neighbors....
Hell ya well said this guy was paid off by the left, look at all these countries that get invaded by land. People can call it all they want until they are begging for help from the community that prepares.
The fact y'all stopped carrying the gear because of peoples feelings is a perfect example of the problem, you don't give up you ability to protect yourself because someone doesn't like how scary it looks
Katrina was a good example of not complying with the illegitimate government. It won't happen again.
after katrina hit their number 1 priority was not to help or evacuate anyone, it was to disarm Everyone
@@commiesnzombies that says it all
It will happen again because there are to many sheep out there and freak show gun control supporters. Don’t underestimate dumb and ignorant in this country. Get your gear and get your SHTF plans and group together and have plans A-Z together.
I’d bet most people give up and go to the camp.
@@A.1.2.K can only hope not
I lived shtf in downtown Kenosha and my Glock 43 was my weapon because I had to go through three checkpoints to get home from work all week and once I got home I was safe with a lot of options
Yeah most guys just fantasize about some war type event during shtf. We’ve lived through countless shtf events over the past 25 years in this country and not a single civilian has needed to “patrol” around in full kit to protect anything.
@user-rb6vm8it2t that’s exactly my point. In America Shtf isn’t going to be total breakdown where running the streets with rifles would be appropriate. But rioting, checkpoints, looting, power outages, all night police chases, helicopters, smoke and fires blocks away may happen
@user-rb6vm8it2t that’s still a shtf scenario you nerd. Just because it wasn’t a war zone doesn’t mean it’s not shtf. Why do all you losers daydream about shtf being a war? The probability of a shtf situation in America where the rule of law doesn’t return in a couple weeks is next to none.
Exactly! people on the internet LARPing like they're gonna set up a fcking PMC with the other people near them. It's more likely that there's a breakdown of social order before it's restored after a few months max. A rifle and a CCW pistol is perfectly fine.
A potoential SHTF and marshall law scenario is one of the main reasons why I choose to live very rural and far away from populated areas. I got the mountains literally in my back yard. It's very quiet but I don't get lonely I actually love it out here.
I was the same way but a heart attack forced moving closer to medical care, just a fact of getting old.
Potential*
Martial*
Also, you can see the mountains from your backyard. Unless you own thousands of square miles, they're not literally in your backyard.
Im in Highland California next to mountains gets cold from big bear but its not many crazies around so yes i relate SBO Police said carry or lose yo life u choose
I didn't know anything about this confiscation happening. Hard to believe this happened in America. You made a bunch of good points.
Ever hear about the rooftop Koreans, L.A. Riot '93?
Unfortunately a LOT of people don't know the truth of Katrina.
i lived in p.r and they are the best human beings ive ever had the pleasure to be around , my area was leveled in that storm my heart breaks thinking of all my friends that were affected.
You make some valid points, but I think you're missing the mark in one respect. My overt gear isn't for " walking around ", it's for home defense should no police presence be in the foreseeable future. After a natural disaster, we will likely be without police presence for a few hours, but officials outside the stricken area are mobilizing " help ". The rule of law will be quickly restored. My rifles, armor, etc. are for when order isn't likely to be restored for days, weeks, or longer. Your experience in P.R. shows the " usual " series of events, and it's something we all can learn from. But it's not the only thing that can happen. We should be prepared for the " unusual " as well.
I’m prepared for both. But do you really foresee needing a full battle rattle with NVG’s are armor for your house. Maybe if you live in downtown Chicago lol. My neighborhood is all yuppies lol
@@sigma3survivalschool My crystal ball was subject to manufacturers recall, so I can't be certain what I might need or when. Those are things that, if needed, will be needed right now. I see them as I see my fire extinguisher. My suburb is clean and quiet, but the metro is much less so. It's just a matter of time should things take a turn for the worse and the " have nots " start looking around.
@@sigma3survivalschoolEven unarmed yuppies can be feral animals the longer they are without food and water...
@@sigma3survivalschoolseems like you haven't learned a lesson from Russians and Hamas attacks, hmm... the next 9/11 attack will be by domestic terrorists from sleeper cells. The country is too focused outside of our fences while our country have no borders.
Don’t count on rule of law being restored in a few hours. Shoot we can call the cops for something serious they might come and might not andthis is in normal times.
I think you work for the ATF I better keep my dog away from you. 😂
I don't consider a "mere" localized disaster to be SHTF. To me, SHTF is widespread, severe. The Yellowstone caldera blowing would count because it would affect most of the country and even the entire northern hemisphere. Even a limited nuke war counts. A massive EMP from a CME or nuke count. Widespread social breakdown and lawlessness counts. A hurricane wrecking a city or two doesn't.
If Yellowstone blows it’s not a disaster. It’s we are all dead as hell in a short period of time. That’s a planet ender
@@sigma3survivalschool come on, you get the point he was making
I've been through many hurricanes in my life, but Katrina was different. Let me tell you, it was not localized. The entire region was shut down. No power, no electricity, no communications unless you had short wave radio and some way to power it. All the law enforcement from the region was concentrated in the coastal cities to contain the destruction caused by a significant chunk of the population who were looting and murdering. If you lived outside one of those cities, you were on your own. It lasted about a month. It was a very long month.
Are you $tupid. ????? Katrina was more than a “local” shtf and you should be grateful it didn’t affect you .
SHTF isn't mere "local" when it hits your area..
i remember Katrina very well. The authorities tried that on the not so nice side of town first. They got shot at. They never went back. Instead they went to the law abiding side of town where they wouldn't be resisted and took the good folks guns. There is only one way to deal with bully's.
Dumbazx white folks STILL believing po-po is their friend.
Serves them right ....
After Katrina the State of Oregon passed a law that guns would not be confiscated during time of emergency. That was then, now they are passing magazine bans etc.
So the police/National Guard footage confiscating firearms during Katrina and other disasters seems to have taken place in Democratically led states and most of us have a good understanding of where they stand on the 2nd amendment. That being said an event like Hurricane in the sate of Louisiana and Puerto Rico or an earthquake in the state of California would be the perfect opportunity for those law makers to institute martial law to circumvent our constitutional rights and confiscate firearms.
in the Katrina videos---you could see outastate Cali Highway Patrol busting down doors---so outta state with no jurisdiction and no warrants
And even in martial law if you look it up they can’t take your protection the second amendment is set in stone so yes my body armor and my kit entirely would be used and needed and maybe I die but I guarantee they will think twice before the next house they want to raid illegally
@@granitejeepc3651 Democrats prefer to keep their lowly subjects cold, hungry, broke, scared, unarmed, defenseless, and dependent on the Government just to survive
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and Louisiana just went full republican across the board in 2023. Expect filled prisons and safer streets
There’s not enough police or military in a national emergency. Period. And in a real national emergency, many police officers will be home with their families.
They’ll be enough thugs running around trying to confiscate things
during katrina half of them were out looting playstations and jewelry while the others were jackbooting door to door to steal peoples firearms and property
you could either give them your guns or let them know its not gonna be that easy
For that to work you really need armed friends, if you're alone they'll just take you out.
They will stack up on your door and that will be that as they say. If there is an order to disarm, it's time to hide them.
The Sheriff of my county in NC was either the first or 2nd Sheriff in NC to say he would not confiscate weapons or allow others to confiscate lawfully owned weapons in this county no matter the federal laws or mandates. I am armed and will defend my Constitutional right to own and use my weapons in self defense of my family and my property. "Don' tread on me" is what i believe to be my right to protect what is mine and my FREEDOM and GOD has given me this right not any government official.
I’m in Johnston, what county was that?
Surry county nc@@BadMuther
I love guns. I own guns. I shoot guns.
God doesn't exist. Stop using it as an excuse. Grow up.
When you spoke about a SHTF scenario with people banding together I had to laugh a bit being a veteran of the 1992 LA riots - six days of peace and love - yeah right. I was in Korea Town and the only reason why it was still standing (albeit parts were smoldering and looted out) was because the Koreans banded together and fought back! One guy was seen on TV shooting rioters who had broken into his video store across the street - no charges. Likewise no charges for the Koreans. I myself was attacked by five urbanites and had to point my friends pistol at them to chase them off. I had never owned a gun before but exactly 15 days later I sure as hell did. Not prepping for the end-of-the-world or zombie apocalypse but maybe just another "civil disobedience" in my neighborhood. Nobody will burn me out or ever chase me off again. No cops trying to confiscate weapons or stop those protecting themselves - hell no cops at all. One thing I learned is - you're on your own.
Bad neighborhoods will always be bad neighborhoods no matter the circumstances. I’m talking about people like you and me. There are more good people than bad ones.
I tried. I can't listen to this anymore. Mix of good and really bad advice, in my opinion.
But I did think this was funny:
"You should carry something affordable that's easy to replace."
30 seconds later...
"I carry a Staccato."
😂🤣🤣 you can't make this stuff up
Yes and ten minutes later I pulled a cheap pistol off my waist. I specifically said carry cheap. But used my edc carry as a prop.
@@sigma3survivalschool I'll give it another watch and update my comment accordingly 🙂
Not a single citizen I know that trains is making up for 4 years of slavery in the military industrial complex: the exact system most are training to be ready for. TYRANNY. You mentioned history quite a few times, the last 6 years in this country should have shown you enough.
I'm going to "inject some reality" for you. I've spent the last 20+ years working in uniform and out of uniform in DoD working strategic and asymmetrical threats. While your experience may have value when there is global infrastructure to respond with humanitarian efforts. But in my world, if what could happen does happen to CONUS, your advice is absolute bullshit. There will be no infrastructure, no food, no water, no help, martial law will fail within days. People will not band together, they will isolate themselves due to a lack of resources. Depending upon who the adversary is, you may not have imports for potentially years to come. That all being said: Men, buy what you want, train hard and ignore advice suggesting that you'll be made to comply at a checkpoint. 🤦
Well what I teach people to do is live off the land with next to nothing. I’ve got guys on staff that live totally primitive in the wilderness full time. All I’m trying to suggest is that running around in full battle rattle while trying to survive isn’t feasible. A 8 hour hike in full military kit is about 4000 calories per day. It’s unsustainable. And will make you a target.
I'm getting older but have studied history / military history most of my life. I knew something was seriously wrong in our country / world many years ago. The clamor to disarm us was a real clue. I think declaration of martial law is a possibility but the nationwide scenario is logistically impossible to enforce. The major cities would be the focus and would divulge into a quagmire. I don't see controlling millions of desperate people in the cities as having a good ending for either the population or military. I would recommend the military walk / talk softly to the rural communities. In the rural areas, there already is county personnel organizing and recruiting.(especially since 2020). The Sheriffs posse's have been organizing as militias and networking with preserving the counties' security and resources as their goal. Inevitably, I see hordes of refugees and thugs streaming out of the cities and overrunning the suburban counties but getting stopped in the truly rural counties. Country boy can survive. (and shoot, grow food, hunt, know the land and neighbors) These counties are probably linking up comms to mutually support each other. The rural counties would not be immune to marauders / internal thugs but that would not be a long lived profession in the countryside.
Larping? Take a harder look in the mirror. Just saying training is training. If you pay for it or join the military it's training .
True makes what ever fore your join training go a whole lot faster and if you have gear well that is now our gear.
We had only gotten rid of the AWB 1 year prior to Katrina. The culture has changed DRASTICALLY. Look at the level of respect people had for law enforcement back then vs. today. Look at the number of law enforcement that are refusing to enforce state gun laws passed by legislatures and signed by governors. Things are very different now. Also, every example you gave was in a major city. Things will be very different in different regions. Things will not be like Katrina, not at all.
It depends on the individuals scenario. Your right, the first part of the disaster human reaction is to stick together and help. If it is a sustained incident, there will be shots fired, and trouble. Protect your home and your family. Train, and train hard…. There is a place and time for it, if it gets bad. He keeps talking about getting disarmed. If it is a big enough event in mutable areas cops are soooooo under staffed, and military can’t be everywhere. Maybe if you are in a big city, listen to him and gray man…
What experience do you have to support your imaginary timeline? Ever been subject to a disaster with prolonged effects?
@@QEsposito510 I think you are are asking for, what is your experience to support your claim? Which I am not sure why I need to justify myself, but I will. I have been a single and multiple resource ICS manager on several disaster events, Search and Rescue for 12 years, served 22 years in the military, deployed 3 times in combat zones, citified in ICS (incident command systems) in many areas including weapons of mass destruction, and also have my bachelors in Homeland Security and emergency management. To include reading about historical events, and outcomes. That is my experience to support my claim, but in this day and age… anything is possible really.
People Don't ever give up your guns or anything to the gov. of any country. Keep and bare your arms. And stand your ground!!!!
Bare your arms? Wearing a tank top all day may be comfortable, but not too practical. 🤣
I live in Panama City, Florida. In 2018 we had hurricane Michael, cat 4. It destroyed Tyndall Air Force base, which I live 5 minutes from and it did billions of dollars worth of damage to our county, that a lot of people are still recovering from. I personally had over $160k worth of damage to my $400k home, fortunately I was well insured. I'm a firearms instructor and gunsmith and know quite a few LEO's. At no point did they give any issue to anyone carrying openly, which is technically illegal in Florida, unless on private property, hunting, fishing, or camping. There were multiple times where people were shot for attempting to loot or rob. In no case was anyone ever charged, in fact, in one case the gun was returned to the victim the very next day. The sheriff's office gave many warnings to not loot or rob, because residents are expected to use lethal force. LEO's from surrounding areas came to assist, from as far as Miami. The LEO's posted road blocks on highways into the county and did not allow people in that didn't have ID with a local address. To prevent out of town looters from coming in. There was a group of 4 people that came into my neighborhood pretending to be ATF agents and cops (badges, shirts, hats, guns on their hip), they tried to "confiscate" firearms. When 6 well armed men came outside to confront them, they tried to flee. They didn't make it far. They were held for the real cops and left in handcuffs. That was played on the news, with a message..."if any law enforcement tries to disarm you, do not comply. They are not real LEO's." That sh*t may fly in some states, but not Florida. Id imagine, not texas either.
Handgun, concealed vest, medical kit, spare mags should be your SHTF kit
If you have a kid better take Celox along. Could save your life if you get shot.
Hows that going to work against gangs that have more dudes?
Im from the government and im here to help myself to all your property
So what are you going to do if "they" come to your door and confiscate ask all of your firearms?
They are going to help you to death I live in the country if they want to help me they better call for air support.
Id die
@@timthompson2578 me too, but not alone...this is actually the tyranny the founding fathers were talking about.
I have toys.
The problem i see is that everyone focuses on gear, because thats fun, but i dont see anyone training doing wind sprints at thier local football field while wearing all this gear (minus the gun of course). Most of you jokers cant run 5 yards, go prone for 5 seconds and get back up and do it again for 10 reps. If you cant move you'll be nothing more than an expensive loot drop!
Yeah well not all of us are ignorant. and have been doing so for over a decade. I'm 40 years old and can still run a mile in 5 minutes. with my bag on. So yeah. If you don't mind it dont matter.
@@420dirtnap Nice! I'm not anywhere close to that at 57 but I hope people get out there and do some sort of PT. People have to realize how hard it is to land shots when your heart rate is jacked and youre suckin wind. The better cardio fitness you have the higher chances youre gonna score hits in a fire fight.
@@graybeardsage So true brother. It was very hard to get here. But if I can anyone can. I was way out of shape before I started. But I personally believe it's 90 percent mental and 10 percent physical. Give it all to the LORD and all things are possible.
@@420dirtnap A 40 y/o running a5 minute mile while kitted up....bullshit.
Pull my other finger.....
This video IS about LARPers like you
The worst part of the US right now is the confusion and uncertainty. You've got great advice under that umbrella.
Katrina was an example of so many things that people have said would "never happen in the USA". Seeing civilian police riding in technicals and drawing down on unarmed citizens. Gun confiscation. The entire Superdome fiasco, old ladies getting tackled like hardened ex cons etc... Anyone who says it can't happen here hasn't read enough history or paid attention to recent history. Hurricane Sandy has other lessons about things that "can't happen here". I'm not big on the whole "truck gun" concept UNLESS we are talking about covert secure storage in your vehicle. Something that securely stores your weapons and will stand up to a vehicle search.Their are a variety of covert ways to securely store weapons both in your vehicle and your home and you keep cheap examples in your gun locker or safe and use that as the sacrificial lambs in case door to door does become a reality again. An empty safe or gun room is going to draw more attention than some $400 AR with and Amazon special red dot on it that they can have and go about their way. A man's home should be his castle and our Rights shouldn't be the first thing to go when things go sideways. A lot of shoulda coulda. Know your history and if you don't know it just study how disasters are handled in this country. As far as full battle rattle and learning small squad tactics and that kinda stuff. It doesn't hurt to have those skills at hand. Right now its LARPing, it could be useful. Part of being prepared is learning skills that you may never practically have to use. Its like seat belts and fire extinguishers. If we knew we would never need them for our entire lives we could get away without having them or using them. Training to use your weapons outside of punching holes on the flat range is important. You don't know what you don't know until you do something other than punch holes in paper. Like how heavy your rilfe is with all that shit on it when you have to carry it around all day. Or how much a pain in the ass low slung pistol holster are and how they catch on everything.
My favorite gun for SHTF is a waterspray to clean that shit off of the fan so I can have a nice clean fan.
LOL
😆@@sigma3survivalschool
The citizens should have been putting that 2nd amendment right to use
The number one thing I’ve been working on more than accruing nice equipment is my fitness. You’re screwed if you can’t run for more than 20 seconds. You also need to be strong so you’re not encumbered by all of that gear.
Here here…it’s a bitch after 50!!!!
Amen to fitness. Having seen thousands of students surviving. The number one thing that gets them is lack of energy.
Exactly
I know so many guys with a huge gut and way too many guns. I run every day and stay fit, and carry the lightest gun I can get. I'll be long gone, while the other guy has a heart attack trying to haul his gut and his 308 AR10 and .50 Grendel 50 yards from his front door.
Overall, your thoughts are fairly accurate, on what could happen.
FYI - The Federal Court hearing the court case on Pistol Braces, has put a nationwide injuction in place prohibiting the ATF from enforcing their Pistol Brace "rule" aka ban....just as an FYI
YMMV
Injunction doesn’t equal the rule changing and the atf has not been following the injunctions and arresting anyways
@@sigma3survivalschool any links to them officially saying they will ignore and also cases where they are arresting? Many places are selling the famous SBA3 brace and complete "Pistols" with them on it.
I totally agree that the youtube channels showing a full combat load are is totally impractical for most situations. A good Pistol like the Glock 19 is going to be a must for most people. Expensive armor and night vision is just going to be out of reach for most people. A Cloak to hide from Thermals is would be useful.
I do like the idea of having a thermal monocular though. So pricey if one can afford it. But having the capability to scan sectors for people with thermals would be a huge benefit.
A Glock is harder to shoot than a long gun. My opinion, worth what you paid for it, is if someone is saying "night vision and full combat loads are beyond most people," that person is unlikely to have 4 solid classes under their belts and 10,000 rounds through their pistol. And my opinion is that person is better off with a long gun. I've killed a LOT of stuff with pistols, rifles, and shotguns. My experience is it's a lot easier to get results under stress with a long gun (rifle or shotgun). Most people are not training enough with their pistols.
And one must consider the context. Once I moved out of an urban area to a homestead, I barely touch my pistols anymore. They just don't have the reach or the shootability of long guns and too many destructive pests have got away when I was using a pistol. So I have shifted heavily to long guns for any real use. But pistols are nice for CCW. That is true. I have a hard time stuffing a shotgun into my pants.
Do you know what the caloric cost daily of moving with a combat loadout is for a 150 lb person on level ground in normal temperatures? 4000 calories a day. Add temperature and terrain and it goes up substantially. In a low calorie environment you won’t have the energy to move around after a week or two at most.
I do however prefer a long gun. And in the country that’s all I’d likely carry. In the city it’s a different ballgame.
@@sigma3survivalschool I'll push back against the idea that "I'll never carry a long gun in the city." I'll argue that it depends what is going on. Katrina? You would have been fine as long as the gun grabbing mil/police were not in sight.
What about that hurricane in Texas about 5 years ago? You could carry a rifle or shotgun there too. At least in places.
What about Mogadishu? It's ok to open carry a rifle there right now.
My big point is "never say never." Even in the city. But I totally agree that as long as government is operational in some capacity, concealed carry is probably the better option. Especially in the city.
So basically I think you are like, 99% on the money. Unless I am misreading you and making assumptions. Then I apologize.
Umm, yeah. Every single confiscated gun owner I hope filed mega money lawsuits for direct violation of 2A rights. That right IS NOT superceded by "catastrophe general public safety". That's exactly what the purpose IS for owning weapons. I'd sue everyone! State, Governor, local yokel police depts AND the officers executing the confiscations. If it were National Guardsman, a lawsuit would go against the military base and the Fed govt. I'm very very patient. I'll wait years for my money. When I receive it, I'll take 1st class vacations sending post cards to everyone involved with my case saying "wish you were here, Not! This is what happens when you do the wrong thing to honest citizens, keep doing it"! Thank you. Yes, I'm prick like that. Not petty, just prick like that. 🤠😎👍🏾👊🏾😜
This guy sounds like a world class fudd
On chest rigs. I first bought the Unobtanium Gear low vis split rig but found it really lacking due to the inability to effectively carry medical and a radio with mags. The T.Rex Arms Ready Rig is much better for most people.
I just bought the same rig, looked at t rex arms, but wasn't slim enough. Probably end up trying both and making a video on it.
@@sigma3survivalschool That would be great because I haven't seen anyone do that yet. They definitely fill different roles in as much as the dank robber low vis rig. The dank robber is definitely best suited to an expanded context where you can slap on a placard you have stored with your rifle. That adds cost for the average joe
The most disheartening thing about Katrina’s reaction was, not what the government ordered, but that the national guard and police actually followed orders … breaking the oaths they took.
100% , everyone thinks they are Schindler, but reality is you are not. And neither is law enforcement, they'll just be the nazi taking orders when 10 years ago they would have sworn not too
“9 Mil is the most… accepted round out there.” Good point. I know a lot of bad guys that do not accept 40 or 45 cal if a situation were to arise. lol.
Great video. Probably too realistic for what the inner pepper in me really wants to hear, but all true.
Bro, I think I rememeber ya'll from WAYYYYYYYYYY back in the day when we all carried ferro rods. Just stumbled upon your channel, and I gotta say, ya'll are a breath of fresh air in the prepping community. I appreciate the common sense approach, amidst the wild sea of doomsaying available.
I don't have a "favorite" SHTF gun. Guns are tools, so it's a matter of what does the situation call for?
In an ideal situation for patrolling/everyday defense, I wouldn't be alone and we'll basically operate as a fire team, with: designated rifleman with a LPVO and an 18 or 20" AR, two or three riflemen with 16" ARs w/Eotechs and my buddy who has an M240, belt-fed. There's also an AR-10 in the mix and a 6.5 CM with good glass and a can (a .338 WM is available also).
Depending on the situation, that's a decent toolbox to dip into.
And now I'm hearing you say that a SHTF scenario is going to be like Katrina. I have news for you, gun confiscation during a disaster has been ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL, so, unless you want to see a lot of dead cops, I wouldn't recommend trying that shit.
Yep. 9:38 in and I've had enough. Sell this crap to somebody else, cuz I ain't buying it!
The best part was the end of the video that’s where I talked about what guns to carry. All those gun choices sound great, but you have to secure them when you’re not caring them..
I lost my house in Katrina I had no idea guns were being confiscated at the time. I was open carrying most of the time. I found out about this happening about a year later! I wish the Americans wanting shtf to happen could experience the days after Katrina they have NO IDEA what they are wishing for! The days,weeks and months after was pure improvised survival I ate mre's for 6 months straight.
I think people overestimate the amount of hunting they'll be able to do in a large scale SHTF. If food becomes scarce, people will quickly wipe out the local animal populations. Unless there's some event that rapidly eliminates 90+% of people or you live at least a hundred miles from the nearest city hunting is unlikely to be viable. I've talked to guys who think they'll be hunting deer in their back yard, like their neighbors don't all have the same idea... You need to make sure you have stores of food and water, somewhere they won't be easily found.
This!
All those guns probably never made it back to any government establishment.
Came to mine the salt in the comments, great googly moogly 😂🧂🧂🧂
Larping is a trigger word lol.
Watching that shitbox video was worth it just for the comments.
First time hearing you second if you believed just 1% of what you said your back ground wall would be bear white paint. Third who says anyone in their right mind would stay put if they had a clue ahead of time it was going to happen in the first place fourth families stick together blood is not always thinker then water. Fifth congratulations!
Paint my wall white? Why? I don’t get it
White because you have surrendered.
Ahhh you’re funny lol. Did you even watch the back half of the video? And serious question. How many people do you know that are totally food sustainable? Because you can’t fight if you can’t eat and replace supplies.
Yes I'm funny I will agree with you I keeps me under the radar. Makes people like you think out side of that box
Louisiana is now as of March8th a “Constitutional Carry” state now so….
This whole video has a valid argument against tyranny!
In 2021 we lost our property (log house, shop, haysheds, equipment, livestock, and 98% of the standing forest) to a wildfire and were subjected, first hand, to the incivility that followed. Days before the fire looters were running across peoples evacuated properties stealing everything they could get their hands on. Days after the fire they were back at it, pillaging houses that hadn't burnt, and going through the ashes of properties that were destroyed. When we got back to our land (600 acres about an hour from the closest city), we saw people everywhere, either gawking or pillaging. The cops who were called to blockade the access roads failed utterly and residents in several districts lost thousands in personal property.
In the years following the fire trespassers ran rampant, ignoring private property signs, cutting fences, tearing down signs and causing more damage to the already ra*ed land. They cut down the burnt forest on marked private land for their firewood, went waltzing through fences to pick mushrooms, and took off road vehicles onto explicitly marked property so they could get a closer look at the destruction.
That lead us to ensuring we were prepared to protect our property as we rebuilt. The items we found most useful were: thermal optics, night vision equipment, and cellular trail cameras. On more than one occasion we have had to use this equipment to identify armed trespassers/thieves before confronting them. The cellular trail cameras are by far the best purchase as they give you immediate notification as to activity and allow a quick and well informed response.
Our situation dictated that observation and identification was far more important than an overt armed response (which is frowned upon, if not illegal in Canada); however, we also found that daily live fire target practice, skeet events, and distance shooting with long guns was enough to keep returning lookyloos from nosing around too much (all use of firearms was legal as per Canadian firearm laws). Just something to keep in mind if you ever find yourself in a similar situation.
13 minutes in and there is no actual information.
would this law not allow another Katrina issue occurring again?
US Congress enacted the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act. This law provides that no officer or employee of the United States while acting in support of relief from a disaster or emergency can seize a firearm that is otherwise legal to possess. The statute also provides for severe civil penalties for government agents that violate the law. The law also applies to agents of state and local governments if their agency received federal funding (so pretty much every police agency).
It should if they care about afterward or geting liberated.
It's a sad day in America when this crap happened. These people lost their homes, Theirloved ones, Their pets, and even their Freedoms.
This isn't the country you think it is. It hasn't been for a long time. The stars and stripes old glory sense of constitutional freedom is a thin veil covering up an authoritarian administrative nightmare.
I'm 38 now, but my dream was to become Army Special Forces when I was younger and follow in my family's footsteps, but nope, I was denied because when I was 15 and 16, I had seizures and I was turned down. Military tactical training with retired Seals and Delta Force Operators is the closest I can get, so I enjoy wearing my G3 pants, chest rigs, etc. HAHA
Watching the Katrina footage made me physically sick and really really mad. The little support and respect i had for law enforcement went right out the window
This is why I live in Texas. I know my neighbors have my back and are well armed as well. Here, "well armed" doesn't mean "owns a pistol". Well armed in Texas means "could outfit a small army". When virtually everyone is outfitted this way and has training, as most Texans do, the government doesn't tend to overstep its legal boundaries. Many of us in this state are veterans, former law enforcement, etc.
hows the boarder
A lot of great points, but there is one problem I have. People aren't just prepping for natural disasters, people are prepping for domestic terrorism and civil war.
It's hard to watch. It's very hard, the old lady, the failure of the citizens to fight back with force.
Weapons are tools.
Tools give options.
More options increase chances of survival.
One person's LARPing is another person's training.
Opinions are a reflection of perspective.
Indeed 👍
I looked at an online dictionary but I can't figure what LARPing means.
1 minute in and I loathe the line "missed out in the Military."
If I wanted to join the military, I would do it. It's literally free lol that said, still staying and watching for a different perspective and to learn something.
Well done. I'm a Vietnam vet & still grateful for all the invaluable training & experience I acquired growing up hunting & tracking as a kid in the woods of Pennsylvania.
The people of New Orleans didn’t fight back is the issue. All of that gun confiscation was illegal. Unlike them I know the constitution and laws regarding this. I also READ lawsuits filed and won afterward.
the problem is they all went into lock step just like the nazi gastapo.
and after they said the same thing the nazi officers snd enlisted said
“ i was just obeying orders”.
when it comes down to it under a illegal governmental order the US Constitution is null and void.
men will be beat up by the local police. and we will not talk about what will happen to our women folk. and thats not even getting down to the illegal alien gangs and home grown gangs.
As a member of the Florida Army National Guard, all Army personnel have a legal obligation to refuse an unlawful order and that's exactly what I and many others will do.
If law enforcement act in an unlawful manner, we have the responsibility to detain them as well. A gun grab will not be allowed to happen nowadays.
I'm old and slow, the bug out isn't a viable option. I am hoping to shelter in place through stealth and concealment. That means everything needs to be concealed. If bugout is the final option its going to be a night time operation. Thanks , good advice.
Look up Selco. Most of time when he needed to leave his house to scavenge stuff was at night time. Day time is dangerous.
There's nothing about an AK that is any better than a modern AR.
Modern AR's have better range, accuracy, and are absolutely just as reliable.
You tell people to carry a 9mm, because it's more common and then you want people to carry something in a less common round like 7.62X39 or 5.45X39mm?
You don't get more common than a 5.56 in the United States...
This doesn't seem very consistent.
I never said an ak was better. I said it was easier and cheaper to conceal due to its folding stock.
The courts did deem those confiscations illegal.
There is now court precedent regarding this.
Many did actually get their guns back.
I just had that conversation and I agree. Myself and Survival Dispatch agree, I'd guess. I just subbed the channel. Not too many speak the truth.
Not many know the truth, he speaks the truth at so many levels……..
You larped befor you deployed bud. Its called training when the military does it.
Like I said. I love larping. But people need to emphasis survival skills and medical before larping. Priorities my man
SHTF in 29 Aug 2005. Hurricane Katrina response had me in area for 2 weeks. People were desperate and for good reason. Some pilots were shot at from the ground. And we were there to help them.
The people probably couldn't tell the difference between those trying to help and those trying to disarm.
Well they had good reason to with government goons taking arms away and not going after looters
I know one of the guys who secured the airport- long time Ranger with lots of deployments…… i have heard stories of the wife breaking down the AR’s and sending the various uppers and lowers in large FedEx boxes to the island….. i guess in those types of emergencies…. Things become pretty loose….. i also heard that much of the food at the airport ended up rotting on the runways!
The emergency medical supplies and food not being distributed put P;R; into an uproar a couple years ago when that warehouse was opened with large amounts of needed aid.
Finally, a UA-camr with realistic information about SHTF. Wish I could like this a million times.
Do you know where they knock on the door instead of just coming right in because they didn’t have warrants he had to be let in. The fourth amendment still applies even during martial law. The only time the fourth amendment is exempt for exigent circumstances is when These include danger to life, danger of escape, and danger of destruction or removal of evidence., so even under martial law, they still need a warrant
Remember when they went door to door during the Boston bombing with no warrants and entered regardless of whether people allowed it. It’s happened way more than once.
Martial law means suspension of the constitution bro. You will have no rights whatsoever. Its occupation by a hostile force.
@@sigma3survivalschool Ok, so how do you prepare for this? How do you handle this?
@@sigma3survivalschool Never in florida or atleast they never got away with it.
This is why a CZ Scorpion is a great choice. It needs to be very compact, concealable, and light weight yet capable. And runs the same ammo as your side arm. It may not have the punch of a rifle but you aren't trying to put people down, just break contact and keep moving. Added benefit is that it can be very quiet, and the ammo is easy to carry. And can be used to hunt small game just like a 22LR
Scorpion is a great choice and will do the just just fine with good ammo plus it is obviously very common caliber that can be scavanged.
You both make great points!
If you live in the mountains of the PNW you'll have a hell of a time finding small game in the back country, and tree squirrels don't give you much meat.
My primary carry is a 1911. I am in the process of working up a cast bullet load so the gun can be used for food procurement without buying different ammo types
Gun-free zones are dangerous. Don't let yourself be a gun-free zone. I recommend avoiding bars, pubs, and gun-free zones. Carry or be carried. The police cannot protect you if you are dead. Safety first. Learn basic gun safety. Stay armed. Guns do not commit violence and guns do not assault people, no matter what you call them. It is not a crime to carry a gun for personal safety and the safety of others. It is a crime to blame something that is not to blame, so you can steal people's personal protective equipment (PPE).
The AR15 with a 16" inch barrel will not fit in a medium size backpack. The KEL-TEC 'SU16C' with a 16" inch barrel will easily fit into a medium size backpack. ✅
Some of the best content I've actually heard. Well thought out with truly valid points. The human condition forgets the past far too quickly. Very level headed video
Don't forget. The first things that will be confiscated are any weapons or accessories that are registered in any way. That includes suppressors and SBRs. Once you register one item, that means that they can come to confiscate that registered item and will search for anything else they can confiscate, even if what they are doing is illegal.
Do not comply
You live in the wrong state.
I prefer to stay off the radar as much as possible. Why attract so much attention to yourself when you don't have to. I love the state I live in. I'm just stating the facts. If the goal is to not attract so much attention to yourself, then registering items with the ATF kind of renders that point moot.
Eventually there will be a gun roster and everyone on it will be the first ones they will come for, whether you refuse to comply or not.
@@dragonknightarmory7815 Who is this mysterious "they?" Since Trump will most likely be president in 2025 and Project 2025 will rid us of the "deep state' and non-elected administration, will conservatives be the "they?"
"Train as you fight, as a gray man."
What you are proficient and own is not always what is seen by others. A tool kit is necessity as a means of survival by many types of threats. Some Americans have survived much more than wars around the world and know anarchy.
The shotgun has always been my shoulder arm , in all our wars they have been- in the trench’s of WW1 - WW2 - Vietnam- Korea
If its you vs ten armored swat on your families door step you lost already and are probably are better off complying or at least convincing them you are. But this is where the art of non compliance is key.
Great points in your video! I'd like to add that after Katrina, the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act was passed which explicitly states that it's illegal for government to confiscate legally owned firearms, and imposes civil penalties if it's done anyways. So there may be some legal recourse for a future disaster after the fact, but your point about concealability seems apt.
Just found your channel and immediately appreciate how you take the societal factor in preparation, skills, gear setup and planning. Most people and other channels mention it but dont really incorporate it like you do. THANK YOU
I don't own "military" gear. But i believe in having some kinda gear. I don't wanna look like a soldier if the SHTF because more than likely our own gov't will at some point send the actual military against us. That'd be like the 101st dropping into France the night before D-Day dressed like the Waffen-SS. It'll be a good way to get got. That said, i do think we all need gear of some kind. There are tons of civilian market products meant for concealment and are easy to use that is just as good or better than what the military gets. Now i loathe the thought of fighting Americans in uniform, but let's be real here, we've all seen the videos many currently serving have put out. From advocating for sex with kids to marxism to overt house to house gun grabbing. If we don't change course as a nation, it will come down to citizen vs. soldier.
But to the point of "larping", i hate that term. And i don't "larp" at all, ever. I end this with a question : Imagine the Continental Regulars, starving and outnumbered, saw the citizen militias arrive to bail them out and the regulars said "Hey, quit larping as soldiers". What do you think woulda happened ?
Big difference between a foreign invader and a domestic one. They had manufacturing capabilities and support from France for supplies.
@@sigma3survivalschooland Myanmar rebels are 3D printing firearms to supply themselves. Do Americans have less fighting spirit than Asian rebels now? That’s disappointing.
@@sigma3survivalschool My guess is there are thousands of reloaders out there with stocked supplies from what I have seen in comments over. Also look at all the items in our military that went missing mysteriously over the years.
They’ve been fighting that battle in Myanmar for what like 20 years or more. Same for farc guerillas. And still haven’t even come close to winning
1/3 of 5.56 is manufactured by the us government. What do you think the first thing they will shut off? A lot of guys reload. But when they run out of supplies their is no resupply options at all. Can’t exactly mine your own materials
You keep using the word “allow” or not allowed. The government is not allowed to take firearms from peaceable people unless they have a reasonable suspicion of them committing a crime. That doesn’t mean they can go on a hunch they have to have some sort of minor evidence that whoever they detain has already committed a crime.
The SHTF scenerio when you need full kit is when we have to re-establish our republic from a tyrannical government. Not natural disasters. Why do you think Militias are mentioned in the 2nd amendment?
Understanding disaster psychologically and logistics is key.
My personal breakdown
1. Handgun for concealment, edc, multi purpose.
2. AR and Shotgun for the home defense.
3. hunting rifle chambered in any of the following 300, 308, 7.62 30-06. etc. same AR from #2 w/22 conversion bolt.
I never understand why people say "hunting rifle in "X" caliber." Usually 27 or 30 cal.
My opinion, people don't need seperate guns for hunting and defence. They can be, and should be, the same. Because if someone is actually hunting, they can get in the reps under stress with their defence gun. And if a defence gun doesn't work for hunting, what makes a man think it will work for defence?!?!?
And 5.56 killes deer just fine. And can kill elk too, with proper load and shot placement.
Perfect setup.. Most people tend to just get 20 different guns
@@woodsghost9088 Sure, Fudd.
There are too many people going around telling people what they need. Let them do what they want.
@@timothy4011 lol. Either you don't know the meaning of "fudd" or you are flat wrong. Maybe you didn't actually read what I said.
And people can do what they want. Sure. But so far, the people who listened to me have done well, firearms wise. Don't listen to my financial advice.
@@woodsghost9088.22 bolt action supressed with subs... near silent
Finally, a realistic person who has seen real situations as well.
Carry enough to break contact has been my mantra about SHTF for decades.
You see all these CQB "training vids," by guys that did it for a day, they make a video about it, etc. And I'm watching it, and I know they are all dead before they step into the second room.
Thanks for being the lone voice of reason in the forrest of the Hooahs, Oorahs, and etc. (Won't say the AF, ok I will, "aim high," -- come on Bros, you're messing it up 😊)
Yeah all these guys have infinite hours at the range but zero small unit tactics skills. The easy part is shooting. It’s the other stuff that’s hard. Thought about making a video on that subject alone
@@sigma3survivalschool
Should
Omaha nebraska here, i work closely with law enforcement, there are times we have waiting hours for the police here only for them to not show up, and this is a big city, in small towns there is usually an hour wait for law enforcement if they show up.
When seconds matter, police are minimum minutes away.
BTW, they would never be able to achieve a gun confiscation here any time, let alone a disaster time
There were some things I hadn't really considered. Thanks for sharing that.
Our Constitution doesn't disappear in a disaster. WE HOLD A GOD-GIVEN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF SELF-DEFENSE. PERIOD. IF THE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES BREAK THEIR OATH, THEN THEY ARE THE ENEMY. NEVER GIVE UP YOUR WEAPONS!
literally every disaster the constitution has been totally trampled on. Just look at covid as the most recent example.
@@sigma3survivalschool Ok, so how should that be handled? What's the answer?
Replyingtomarylynmonroe/YES I TOtaly agree that we The people should never give up our guns; I hope all Americans understands this; Who ever gives up their guns are helpless & doomed😃🤠🙉