I really like these tutorials you post on what is regularly overlooked or simply assumed knowledge. Great breakdown on the differences between fast and slow action rods--graphite vs fiberglass. Youre a great teacher.
I’ve found I can get a good load on those Eagle Claw rods flatlining with a trolling rudder like the red ones on lake trolls clipped in above my dodger bumper. The little bit of extra drag without any weight to sink it seemed like a good idea to me.
Some years ago, I used to chase king salmon off the northern Cali coast. We had a really small boat and used deep six divers a lot. Ended up upgrading boats and graduating to down riggers. I moved inland so sold my ocean boat but never lost the desire to do some trolling. Now I've got a kayak to try and get out to chase some koks but I don't have a down rigger so I wondered, why don't I ever see folks using deep sixes? Is there something I'm missing about Kokanee in particular that folks don't use deep six divers? Seems like it could bridge the gap between dropper weights and down riggers for folks like me who can't or don't want to use a down rigger. Because there's pretty much nothing out there for info about deep sixes and Kokanee, I'm unsure what I'd want from a rod. I found the eagle claw rod at my local Walmart and it seems like pretty good value but I didn't think it had enough snot in it for a deep six despite that the deep six has an adjustable trip. Have you used or seen folks use deep sixes chasing Kokanee?
I've used them a hand full of times fishing for kokanee out of my 16ft aluminum boat here in Oregon but I have found even if you get the trip set how you like it, the kokanee are typically are just so feisty and crazy that they use the deep six as a bit of leverage to spit the hook! Because even with the deep six is in line and not having pulling resistance while reeling it still has side to side resistance for the fish and the hooks.
Great video as always! I don't think I'm going to invest in new rods right now but that little tidbit about adding a small dropper or clipping into your downrigger for your surface rods was really interesting. My current lake has a lot of fish on the surface in the mornings and recently I've been noticing that I've been losing a lot on the way to the boat; I guess maybe I need a stronger set to drive the hook in. Thanks!
I’m getting ready to go rod shopping again soon. So, thank you for this video. I purchased a Paulina Peak Kokanee rod a couple years ago and received it with broken guides. The owner of Paulina peak promised to replace the rod. I’m still waiting. Thanks again for the video.
@@ryanbarton6739 I think there might be a couple different loon lakes in wa. I’m referring to stephens county. There is a spawning population there plus stocking occasionally. Been there for years as far as I know.
Good content as usual. I noticed that there are imperfections in the moulding of the Rammount HD mounts I have that are pretty sharp. This has led to not insignificant damage to the cork on one of my Lamiglas rods. I’m going to take a look at using a sand bit on my dremel to smooth that out and experiment with some cork repair compounds.
I had an old Orca from Scotty and my line kept breaking. Same thing a little rough spot on the plastic was rubbing the line in the closed position. Its pretty easy to sand and smooth those out.
Any news of Paulina getting more rods in stock anytime soon?? Seems as if it's been almost 6+ months since I started looking and checking site. Appreciate the information in advance.
I want to use my drop shot for Kokanee jigging however for trolling long line cause I don’t use downriggers, do you think fiberglass or composite will support the dropper weights? Some of the lamiglass kok rods are rated up to 1/4 oz I assume that’s because the weight is being supported by the down rigger? I want something that can handle 5oz or so, I’ll check out Paulina peak. I’m out of Roseburg so I fish Lemolo and Miller when the ice is melted. I appreciate your videos they open up a whole new world of deep water trolling. Up until now I’ve been flat lining a blue fox with spinning gear off a sportsman 106 paddle kayak with mixed results.
So, with using the Eagle Claw with a snap weight: If it's just a little whippy, what do you think 'bout taking an 8' rod and cutting 6"-9" off? It wouldn't change the action, but it 'would' stiffen it up a bit. One might have to loosen the drag a bit, when fighting the fish, but it would give the rod a tad more backbone to set the hook.
Thanks! I thought it would address the issue you posed of that particular rod being on the soft side for using clip weights. Thanks for the clarification!!
I need a recomendation for a dropper rod for bigger trout up to 24 inches. something that i could use 4-6 ounce weights on. If you could let me know that would be great!
The Okuma SST Mag-taper Medium rod is perfect for this. Don't worry about it lure casting rating its actually designed for backtrolling plugs for steelhead. It can easily handle 4-6 oz weight and big 20" trout. SST-C-7101MGM-CGa You can get it here at FishUSA alnk.to/dewvGIF
@@spiltmilt Thanks a lot. I already own okuma kokanee black rods, 8 foot light. I have been very happy with them, but 4 ounce weights and above i find a little much for them. I will be happy to go with another okuma rod.
@@spiltmilt Just letting you know I did receive this rod from fishusa and I am very pleased. Feels like it will work great, I paired it with the slightly bigger lexa 300 line counter from daiwa.
Thanks, another great video. When you are targeting Rainbow Trout, are you considerations for the physical qualities of the rods per application the same as for Kokanee? Do you use the same rods for both species?
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I really like these tutorials you post on what is regularly overlooked or simply assumed knowledge. Great breakdown on the differences between fast and slow action rods--graphite vs fiberglass. Youre a great teacher.
I’ve found I can get a good load on those Eagle Claw rods flatlining with a trolling rudder like the red ones on lake trolls clipped in above my dodger bumper. The little bit of extra drag without any weight to sink it seemed like a good idea to me.
Some years ago, I used to chase king salmon off the northern Cali coast. We had a really small boat and used deep six divers a lot. Ended up upgrading boats and graduating to down riggers. I moved inland so sold my ocean boat but never lost the desire to do some trolling. Now I've got a kayak to try and get out to chase some koks but I don't have a down rigger so I wondered, why don't I ever see folks using deep sixes? Is there something I'm missing about Kokanee in particular that folks don't use deep six divers? Seems like it could bridge the gap between dropper weights and down riggers for folks like me who can't or don't want to use a down rigger. Because there's pretty much nothing out there for info about deep sixes and Kokanee, I'm unsure what I'd want from a rod. I found the eagle claw rod at my local Walmart and it seems like pretty good value but I didn't think it had enough snot in it for a deep six despite that the deep six has an adjustable trip. Have you used or seen folks use deep sixes chasing Kokanee?
I've used them a hand full of times fishing for kokanee out of my 16ft aluminum boat here in Oregon but I have found even if you get the trip set how you like it, the kokanee are typically are just so feisty and crazy that they use the deep six as a bit of leverage to spit the hook!
Because even with the deep six is in line and not having pulling resistance while reeling it still has side to side resistance for the fish and the hooks.
Great video as always! I don't think I'm going to invest in new rods right now but that little tidbit about adding a small dropper or clipping into your downrigger for your surface rods was really interesting. My current lake has a lot of fish on the surface in the mornings and recently I've been noticing that I've been losing a lot on the way to the boat; I guess maybe I need a stronger set to drive the hook in. Thanks!
I just bought what I saw pros using. Kokanee Black
I’m getting ready to go rod shopping again soon. So, thank you for this video. I purchased a Paulina Peak Kokanee rod a couple years ago and received it with broken guides. The owner of Paulina peak promised to replace the rod. I’m still waiting. Thanks again for the video.
That's very unlike Richie I would reach out to him again.
@@spiltmilt That’s exactly what I thought. It got to a point where I felt like I was bothering him so I went to emails that go unanswered.
That’s makes me think twice about ordering a rod from them. Spilt milt had me sold on them too.
FYI. Getting reports of 18” Kokanee out of loon lake this year. Not a huge Kokanee but definitely larger than typical out of loon.
When did they start stocking kokany in loon lake?
@@ryanbarton6739 I think there might be a couple different loon lakes in wa. I’m referring to stephens county. There is a spawning population there plus stocking occasionally. Been there for years as far as I know.
@@DavidJones-uh9rg ok yup I'm in bc canada lol
Good content as usual. I noticed that there are imperfections in the moulding of the Rammount HD mounts I have that are pretty sharp. This has led to not insignificant damage to the cork on one of my Lamiglas rods. I’m going to take a look at using a sand bit on my dremel to smooth that out and experiment with some cork repair compounds.
I had an old Orca from Scotty and my line kept breaking. Same thing a little rough spot on the plastic was rubbing the line in the closed position. Its pretty easy to sand and smooth those out.
What is your favorite jig or kind you use for Kokanee?🤠
Majorcraft Jigpara
Any news of Paulina getting more rods in stock anytime soon?? Seems as if it's been almost 6+ months since I started looking and checking site. Appreciate the information in advance.
not sure best to contact them directly
I want to use my drop shot for Kokanee jigging however for trolling long line cause I don’t use downriggers, do you think fiberglass or composite will support the dropper weights? Some of the lamiglass kok rods are rated up to 1/4 oz I assume that’s because the weight is being supported by the down rigger? I want something that can handle 5oz or so, I’ll check out Paulina peak. I’m out of Roseburg so I fish Lemolo and Miller when the ice is melted. I appreciate your videos they open up a whole new world of deep water trolling. Up until now I’ve been flat lining a blue fox with spinning gear off a sportsman 106 paddle kayak with mixed results.
Thanks! 😊
Have you tried the Okuma Kokanee Black rods? Wondering what your thoughts are?
I’ve not but don’t like carbon fiber grips
I’ve been hearing good things about them. Are you liking them?
@@catfishman9516 yes they are bad ass. I use them with divers or clip on weights on planerboards
@@practicedm good to hear
So, with using the Eagle Claw with a snap weight: If it's just a little whippy, what do you think 'bout taking an 8' rod and cutting 6"-9" off? It wouldn't change the action, but it 'would' stiffen it up a bit. One might have to loosen the drag a bit, when fighting the fish, but it would give the rod a tad more backbone to set the hook.
I suppose but then you are basically taking a perfectly good downrigger rod and ruining it.
Thanks! I thought it would address the issue you posed of that particular rod being on the soft side for using clip weights. Thanks for the clarification!!
Any idea what blanks Paulina Peak is using?
No
I need a recomendation for a dropper rod for bigger trout up to 24 inches. something that i could use 4-6 ounce weights on. If you could let me know that would be great!
The Okuma SST Mag-taper Medium rod is perfect for this. Don't worry about it lure casting rating its actually designed for backtrolling plugs for steelhead. It can easily handle 4-6 oz weight and big 20" trout. SST-C-7101MGM-CGa You can get it here at FishUSA alnk.to/dewvGIF
@@spiltmilt Thanks a lot. I already own okuma kokanee black rods, 8 foot light. I have been very happy with them, but 4 ounce weights and above i find a little much for them. I will be happy to go with another okuma rod.
@@spiltmilt Just letting you know I did receive this rod from fishusa and I am very pleased. Feels like it will work great, I paired it with the slightly bigger lexa 300 line counter from daiwa.
Thanks, another great video.
When you are targeting Rainbow Trout, are you considerations for the physical qualities of the rods per application the same as for Kokanee? Do you use the same rods for both species?
Yes I use the same rods for both species
At one point in time you recommended Swate but I see you do not any more. Any particular reason why?
I didn't like how they treated their employees and customers so I stopped recommending them.
You don't need to "DRIVE" a hook home on a Kokanee, they have very delicate lip's
Paulina Peak no longer makes Rods
They do but are having supply issues
That's fair mine broke so I ended up going to Lurh Jenson because I couldn't put in an order.