Goats Milk in Soap Making - Fresh vs Powdered- Is there really a difference? Plus another giveaway!
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Goats milk for soap making! Fresh vs Powdered. Is there really a difference? Watch and find out!
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Disclaimer no goats were powdered in the making of this video. 😁
Now, that’s funny!
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@abe frohman Made me laugh out loud. Thanks Abe! 👍🏾😄
Hahaha 🤣😂 good point!
Oh wow! It was so refreshing to see someone get straight to the point in their video. Definitely going to subscribe. Looking forward to more content.
Thank you! Very helpful video
Looks like the goat milk powder I use
You are one of those no-nonsense talker! More power.
Oh thank god! Saves me headaches while providing extra luxury for cheap to my soaps!
Everyone: "You can't do that!"
Jon: "Y'all, hold my beer."
I should to do that with a real beer..lol
Both of ya! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Sir! Dear Sir!
You are myth buster in soap making. Giving me a lot of courage to go FLEXIBLE and FAST. 😍
I add condensed goat milk to my oils as a fifty percent of water . Does great.
Your right Jon, I have not noticed any difference in the fresh goat milk and powdered goat milk. When I am milking my girls I use fresh, when I am not, then I used powdered. Also when I am using fresh I never freeze! I am too impatient to slowly mix the lye with the milk. I just divide my water portion in half use the water to make my lye solution and put the remaining liquid portion in milk straight into my oils. The only thing I have noticed with doing it this way is that my batter heats up a lot and I have to refrigerate to keep cracking down. I also use powdered buttermilk and powdered coconut milk to make a 3 milk soap. It's awesome too!
Same here! I like canned also.
Best (cold processed) soap I ever made had 33% lye concentration in the water, then added fresh goat milk at light trace. Also used lard at 20% of the oils. To heck with vegan. The best bar of soap you can make will be made with lard or tallow in addition to other oils. It's just the way it is. Made a luxurious hard white bar with great lather and conditioning properties. All the nonsense you find on-line about freezing your goat milk before adding lye and turning your soap brown due to the caramelizing of the sugars is ridiculous. Don't put yourself through that nonsense. Just add your milk at trace and it will be fine, or use powdered milk as Jon states above. Either way it will work.
I love to make goat milk coffee soap and coconut milk coffee soap.
I am a couple years late to the party, but I 100% agree with you. I have made goat milk soap with liquid goat's milk and powdered, and there is no difference. They both feel nice and creamy. I currently use the powdered and put it into my oils in powdered form before I add my lye water. It works great. My customers love it.
Do you use the same ratio with the powder that you would use with fresh goats milk in your recipes?
@@naundra826 no, it's 1 Tb per pound of oils for powdered gm
@@ramblinrosecottage5983 Thank you!
I have never noticed a difference between using fresh versus powdered. I like them both.
Me neither, but I am still starting to soap!
All the milks i use in my soap is the powdered stuff... its affordable & I get way more than the liquid version, it doesnt expire on me & keep it right in my fridge... even cooked with a few times just mixed what i needed & no waste
Once it's gone through saponification it doesn't matter! I agree with you completely.. I stick to vegan bars per customer requests( and I don't see the difference in animal milks) I use coconut milk powder and love it.
I am a soap maker in south Mississippi and all I use is powdered goats milk! I do a hot process soap and super fat mine with goats milk. Works great!! By the way i love your channel! God Bless!
What they take out is the whey part that is in the goats milk, I kinda agree the powdered is ok but defiantly it looses the extra vitamins that helps our skins out.
My favourite UA-cam Channel. Thanks for all the great videos Jon.
I desolve the powder in water, then freeze to make my soaps
I use powder too. I have not found a difference to using fresh (very expensive) and powdered either. Works well for me to add the powder to my emulsified batter. In actual fact I can get MORE milk protein/milk fat/goat milk in if I use the powder. Powder all the way!!! Thanks for another straight talk video. ❤
I love making soap with powered goats milk. Getting creative with swirls now 🙌🙌🙌
I used powder Goat milk in my soap they turn out well.
This particular soap has beef tallow and turn out real great. Creamy and moisturising.
Do you add the powdered milk into the oils?
Thanks much. This answers my question!
So well explained. Thank you!
There are a lot of botanicals that are put into soap, too, dried. I'd rather have a soap with dried calendula petals than fresh ones. That said, I use fresh avocado in one of my soaps. I think that using what works, and what's cost-effective, makes the most sense. If I knew a soap had dried goat's milk added, I'd be totally fine with that.
I have been soaping for a while and only use fresh goat and sometimes cow milk but it’s great to know that it’s possible to use powdered goat milk. I had no idea.
I've been curious about this too! We have goats that we milk but my science nerd side would love to see a bar with exact ingredients and the only difference is one having fresh milk vs powdered and then see a lather test after a few weeks of curing. I know my goat milk soaps lather like crazy and just feel awesome.
Since I don't eat the soap, haha, I can see where dry milk makes sense!
100% with you Jon. Love Goats Milk powder.
Forgot to say I raise dairy goats and I use their milk in my soaps but I have also used powdered milk, there is a difference in the bars. Using the milk raw and freezing it it will not loose any benefits. Whey is important, Your bars are harder using the powdered milk without having everything that raw milk has to.
I agree. You've got to work with what you have available.
I'm so glad you did this video. After watching it i did a (google) research, and you are 100% on point. I'm off to walmart in the morning. 😀
I use powdered goats milk. I feel it works great!!
I agree!!!
Love using powdered milks... so much easier!!
Hahahaha... that intro 🎶
Man I just LOVE the way you break things down. I will ALWAYS give you kudos for pushing me off the pot to start soaping... 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Have my 1st triple “powdered” milk soap scheduled for tomorrow... so my catching this video is PEERRRFFFEECCCT! Planned on adding mine right into the soap too!!! Cuz I ain’t dealing with that scorching crap either- soooo BAM!! 😂
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! I love ya bro!!!
I have been using dry Goat's milk powder for years. It has been working great. I add 1.5 scoops per double batch. And I add it just after emulsion. I tried freezing it and I just couldn't balance it with my schedule and sometimes it scorched. Now no problems and people love the bar of soap.
I make a regular cow milk soap, but never considered a goat milk soap because of the reasons you said. I may give it a shot now. I didn't really look into powdered milk because I'm still developing my business and just don't have the extra to experiment. Thanks for biting the bullet for me. Going to try it out for sure, and I'll be sure to mention you and your channel when people ask how I did it.
Oh, and welcome back.
Great to know. Thank you
I use powdered milk it's a easier and cheaper than letting fresh go bad if I had a way to get fresh I would but I can't and it's expensive I just mix it to my clays no burning of it it works and I like the buttermilk in mine
Good to hear. I was looking into just this, guess UA-cam knew and sent me hear The cost for a quart of Goats milk is like 4.50 bucks near me. That just seems like too much and I have no interest in raising my own. Love the soap from it and needed another option. Thanks!
Omg thats amazing 👏 so handy to know
Ive always used canned, glad to be validated!
I use freeze milk from my goat to make soap. It turns out very nice.
Thank you 🌻🌻🌻🌻 I don’t have a farm (at least not yet) and some farmers market run out or don’t have goats milk available. Thanks for the clarification. Hiii from NC 💎💎💎
Nice beard!!!!
I raise my own goats, so milk is easy to come by, I like using my own because I know what is in it, I am not as confident in what is available online. I personally do believe there is a difference in goat milk soap versus water, but it's up to the individual.
Patrick, I read your comment in your voice. Love both your channels. 🤓
@@runningbuddha11 That is very kind, thank you
I put goat's milk powder in the oils when I make my cold process, and add it to some greek yogurt and aloe juice at the end of my hot process cook. I use it for most of my soaps...I only have one or two that I haven't and that was due to them being vegan friendly bars.
Agree with u sir fully
Thanks for the video!!! I have been wanting to try a milk base soap, but was afraid to try. Now I think I will, if nothing else just to see how it works.
Mate exactly I use the powder milks for everything!!!! Can even get even get powdered almond milk as well. I just put a in oil and blend it in then add my lye. Actually powder goats milk does contain more nurturant!!!
How much do u put in the oils?
Been using goat’s milk powder with great success!
Glad I watched this video before buying anything
Greetings @Uncle Jon, I tried it!! I love it Thanks for the tip
Awesome!
Just tried powder and it was so much easier. I used to have to freeze my milk and add the lye very slowly . It was a pain in the neck not to mention if I didn't put the soap to cool right away it would get dark. Just very tedious and became not fun.
Omg Finally....Im just ashamed it didnt occured to me b4 this video....I can only use goat milk soaps since my skin is e trelemy dry and very itchy....and buying goats milk soap base to make mine was getting avery pricey...THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS 🐾
Just FYI.. goats milk soap isn't really any more gentle than a quality olive oil soap, etc. Just a matter of finding the right recipe. But hopefully this inspires you to make some goats milk soap 😁
Using powdered milk is so much less complicated for me. I used to shy away from milk soaps since it seemed most tutorials showed using it for the lye solution. I don't like fussy methods so it didn't make sense for me. Seeing someone add to the batter after combining lye/oils was an awesome revelation to me! SO much better! I love using Coconut cream that way also. Thanks for the comparison video. :) Enjoyed it as always. ✨
I love this information, I definitely can't get fresh goats milk and I did wonder if there was any of the minerals and goodness and settling of angry skin. Thankyou you answered all my questions. I love the tips and tricks you share thankyou
Excellent. Another option would be packaged whole goats milk. I picked some up at Whole Foods, brand Green Goat, grade A. The only added ingredients are Vitamin D (which shouldn't hurt anything) and sodium citrate (which I've read some soap makers already add for some hardness). If there are any drawbacks, other than cost, let me know.
Have you thought of growing your own luffa in your back yard?? Sorry jon I buy Canadian when it comes to homemade soap, it supports my local economy being a Canadian.
No worries! We all make our purchases for our own reasons and that's a good one! Loofahs are tough to grow in some areas. For us, there's just something missing in our soil and they turn out the right size but with thinner membranes. So, I leave it to others😁
Aww❤️❤️ u r great!! Just keep going..very informative
I make GMS. Evap GM, Store GM, Powdered GM, Raw GM…it’s a matter personal preference. With that being said, the Evap GM doesn’t make as creamy looking a soap as the rest.
Awesome! Thanks!
I can attest I see no difference in powdered vs. fresh..I am a hobbyist soaper and have made it with powder, adding lye to milk cubes....Finished product the same! Adding lye to milk is a PITA and I won't do it anymore...But, I do think soaps made with any milk has a creamier, denser, lather...Cheers Jon!!
I use dry powdered goat milk, in hot process
Where do you get the goat milk powder?
I personally don’t like goats milk soap. I do, however, use coconut cream. I add it to my soap batter at emulsification.
Joanne Minasi do you have to discount your water lye mixture when you use the coconut cream? Also is the cream and coconut milk the same thing?
Rebecca Wolf I don’t do a discount but I know other people do.
Not all of us have goats🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks!
Thanks for this! Useful! Curious on your views/experience for canned coconut milk soap? It's so fatty, I'm wondering if it would be problematic. It seems it's so oily that it might soapanify before you could use it.
I'm telling ya just mix it with your kaolin clay and oils first just the powder and it works just fine
No kaolin clay for me
May I ask why? Personal preference?
I have used it and it came out fantastic and not like I got goats running around in the city, and when I do find it its in the store, and its damn near a million dollars, do you uncle Jon
So... I was under the same impression. I’m about to make my first powdered milk recipe. I’ll know soon. I would assume you’re correct. I just don’t the need to pay an extremely high amount of cash for something I can get really cheap powdered... Ive been goat soaping it for years and was ashamed to have store bought, pasteurized goat milk until it came out better than the ones Ive tried from other shapers. I love this.. thanks for being you.
So should we not cpop it?
I guess wanting Vivid colors by using the oven holds me back from using the powder. Thanks!
I only use powdered goat milk. That is all I have access to. I thought about doing an experiment with no milk, powdered goat milk and fresh and seeing if my testers could tell the difference.
In here I cannot find powdered milk of any kind and I would need to buy it on line but it will cost too much with shipping. I can buy fresh homogenized milk (goat /sheep /caw) in stores daily. I always thought that the powdered milk has the advantages since I will be able to control how much to put in the batter without all the excess water. Also the process of freezing the milk and than the fear of burning it with the lye really discouraged me of trying goats milk soap up till now. Your video made me rethink this but from a different perspective. I will have a go on trying it with what’s available and hope for the best.
Yes. Sometimes we just have to use what's available and least expensive.
Im going to show my husband ur videos, I wanna get him involved ❤️❤️😂
Elemental Vibrationz he has such a nonchalant approach when it comes to soap making, I love him and soaping101!!
Do you have a video on your cold process shave soap? I have been trying to figure out a way to do one myself. I am like you. Don’t tell me I can’t.
I really appreciate your video on this topic. I also use goat’s milk powder by adding it to the soap too. However, I wasn’t sure if that was the correct method.
How do you add it to your soap per say?
@@vanessajackson6172 hi, I add goats milk powder to my soap after I have emulsified the oils and lye solution. It is the same way I add clays or other additives. I hope that answers your question.
@@heathermoreland6015 thank you this does help I'm gonna try that. Where do you buy your goat's milk from?
Jon: What about canned evaporated Goat milk? Would there be the same issues of scorching as with fresh goat milk? Evaporated Goat milk seem to be readily available here in the middle of the US.
Someone in the comments said this
"I add condensed goat milk to my oils as a fifty percent of water . Does great."
Whether they meant evaporated or condensed I do not know. 🤷♀
I used fresh for years...then the pandemic hit and suddenly I cant find it at Kroger's anymore....but customer demand is higher.. so powdered became an option.
... also powdered is available at Walmart.
Powdered milks are so much easier! I'm gonna be in Bel Air Tuesday maybe I'll see if I can find your shop and stop in and say hi. Lol. I'm a Delaware friend. Lol
Well, if you get to Berlin you should definitely stop in!
I will definitely try if a can. Not sure how far Bel Air is from y'all but if I don't get there this time I will definitely come out another time Delaware isn't that far from y'all.
I make my own soaps but I would love to buy a bar or two from you just because I'm a fan. Lol
@@sunflowerlover7979 we're right outside Ocean City
I am a total newby getting things rounded up to make my first ever batch of soap. I may be jumping in over my head, but I’m reviewing everything I can find on Oat, milk, honey soap as a first attempt. I know, probably should start simple, but..... nope. Anyway, most all the videos I’m finding are with the fresh-frozen milk being done in the lye. If using the powder do you add to oils before adding lye solution as an additive? How much do you add? Is there an additive chart in existence somewhere with recommended amounts for common additives? Sorry if these are silly questions, but again...newb. Thanks for your great videos and all the helpful info!
For powdered, I add to the oils and mix well right before adding the lye water. About one teaspoon per pound works well. No standard chart that I know of.
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Do you make hot process or cold process soap?
I like your videos! I am about to mix Coconut Milk without the freezing method, I will be doing half water and milk so I will be mixing water & lye then the rest of the half milk but after the trace. What do you think?
Some people have had success with doing that. I would make sure the oils and lye are cool before you start. Less scorching that way.
Thanks for the info.
Great info! Jon, can you please put a link to the studies you found online.
The goat milk I can find locally is pastuerized, which I figure the lye would kill the same stuff pasteurization does, so there is not much of a difference. I would like to try the powdered goat milk to simplify the lye/water process though.
I might try to do a blog post and add links.
Do goat milk powder soaps have a weird smell when first cut?
Yep! But, it does o away after a day or two. Smells like a cross between ammonia and the old school stuff women got their hair permed with back in the day ..lol
Jon, whats the conversion rate for powdered milk?
Unfortunately I live in California but our dream is to move to Oregon. I told my husband I want some goats when we have the land for them but he doesn't seem to think thats a good idea. Goats milk soap is the soap that got me into soap making. Im still mediocre but I think I'm finally ready for making cold process goats milk soap. Glad to hear I don't need to keep a goat on my balcony...I don't think they would be too happy. My neighbors probably wouldn't appreciate it very much either.
Any specific brand of powdered goats milk i should get in particular? Thanks for the video 😃
I like hoosier hill farm goats milk powder in the 2lb jar. Right on amazon 😁
All I use is powered in my CP
No fresh milk! Fresh milk makes the soap MIS-BE-HAVE for me and it burns. I use a good quality powdered goat milk and my bars look creamy. Great vid!
Where do you get your powdered goat milk from, and what kind do you use? Thank you for your response.
I have bought goat milk from the shelf but it makes so much more sense to use powder Thank Jon
Thank you sooo much!so do you just add after trace?that would be so great!again THANK you muck
I add mine to the oils and let sit for a few. But most people use it in place of regular water. So add it to your lye water after it cools and then soap as normal.
Thank you so much
How do I determine how much goat's milk powder to add to my 5lb cp soap recipe?
BTW just subscribed!
UJon, thoughts on using Meyenberg Goats milk....from. a. CAN.?!?!?!
Canned works great!
Is adding powdered milk and liquid milk apples to apples in regard to amount or does it change the grams added?
That changes since the concentration would be different. Although, if you make the powder into liquid milk according to the directions, you could just use that to replace your lye water.