Induction Proofs Involving Inequalities.

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  • We work through an induction example where we are proving an inequality. We have to decide what is the right way to make an inequality of our own in the calculation. We also play around with a technicality surrounding what the basis really is.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 34

  • @montanasebastiano3564
    @montanasebastiano3564 4 роки тому +21

    I appreciate you going through the extra steps proving 2k > k + 1 for k > 1. I thought it wasn't necessary at first but after rewatching I understand the importance of this step.

  • @AmateurThings
    @AmateurThings 6 років тому +13

    Even better than my university professor

  • @anshulkumar9086
    @anshulkumar9086 4 роки тому +2

    I watched yours video many many times .you are amazing for understanding each and every step very crystal clear. You are made for mathematics.

  • @davidwoznerable6750
    @davidwoznerable6750 5 років тому +2

    As a math teacher candidate in Oklahoma struggling through Number Theory thank you!

  • @particleonazock2246
    @particleonazock2246 4 роки тому +8

    Brilliant explanation, you have helped an eighth-grader comprehend this beautiful mathematical proof example.

  • @georgelaing2578
    @georgelaing2578 3 роки тому +1

    It was nice that your example required an adjustment to the base case!

  • @zaidahsan
    @zaidahsan Рік тому +1

    Hello Dr. Bazett,
    Thank you for these thought out videos. The idea of using the ladder analogy is really amazing.
    Also since this resource is quite useful, and as some have pointed out the transitive inequality in the comments. I want to elaborate this so it becomes obvious, and helps someone who might find it a bit confusing.
    In the basis case you proved that
    2^0 > 0 | k = 0
    Then assuming 2^k > k we want to show that 2^(k+1) > (k+1).
    This can be directly shown from the transitive inequality, which I like to write in the form of a chain.
    2^(k+1) = 2 . 2^k = 2^k + 2^k
    We apply the assumption on the first of the two terms on the left side.
    Then,
    2^(k+1) > k + 2^k [ From the Assumption i.e. 2^k > k ]
    2^(k+1) > k + 2^k >= k + 1 [ Since 2^k >= 1 for all k >= 0 ]
    Then from the transitive property of inequalities the first term on the left side is greater than the term in the middle, which is equal to or greater than the term on the right side. Thus the term on the left is necessarily greater than the term on the right.
    2^(k+1) > k + 1. Q.E.D
    Assuming the assumption we have thus proved the induction.

  • @ShanaAngliang
    @ShanaAngliang 4 роки тому +3

    This video has helped me to understand MI, thanks Dr Trefor!

  • @Kenspectacle
    @Kenspectacle 4 роки тому +11

    Hello, I have a question, how did we arrive to k+k > k+1? I am still confused on what does that conclusion is trying to achieve? and how did we get to that conclusion? many thanks in advance! :)

    • @novelas3536
      @novelas3536 3 роки тому

      Make k + 1 = to some variable, and you will see that the induction step follows the induction hypothesis by stating that 2^some variable > some variable which is exactly like 2^K > K, but for k > 1.

    • @michell5706
      @michell5706 Рік тому

      Why does it turn to 2k and not 2^k instead?

  • @vincentchanyurugwa5991
    @vincentchanyurugwa5991 2 місяці тому

    Is it not k is greater or equal to 1 that we need. Since we are to use 1. Why use k greater than 1

  • @Shannxy
    @Shannxy 4 роки тому +2

    If (2^n > n) actually holds true for n = 0,1
    Why does the induction steps lead to having to replace it with (k > 1) instead?

    • @thegeneralgamer4921
      @thegeneralgamer4921 4 роки тому +1

      I'm confused as well >.< I feel like it should have been k>=0 because I've never seen a case where you have k>1 but also still prove k=0,1 unless it was something like the Fibonacci sequence. But you only need to have individual cases there bc those are special cases, whereas here, like you said, it holds true for k=0,1 as well.

  • @ericsabacan2801
    @ericsabacan2801 4 роки тому +4

    Hi Sir. I got interested with the way you explained this lesson. I'm doing a project and I find this video very useful for students, may I have the permission to use your video. Thank you very much.

  • @MrConverse
    @MrConverse 2 роки тому +1

    Why not just use ‘greater than or equal to’ in the last step instead of all that extra work?

  • @slientsoul4609
    @slientsoul4609 Рік тому

    shouldn't it be for k ≥ 1 instead of k > 1

  • @iamrxheem
    @iamrxheem 5 років тому

    What software does he use to do the writing?

    • @iamrxheem
      @iamrxheem 5 років тому

      @@DrTrefor Awesome thanks. We're actually learning this topic in class and I came across this video. Gonna recommend it.

  • @suvayudas2626
    @suvayudas2626 4 роки тому

    Can u help me in this
    2^(n+1)=1

  • @EpicZombieGT
    @EpicZombieGT 3 роки тому +1

    i love u bazett

  • @luvochiya4134
    @luvochiya4134 10 місяців тому

    I'm the most confused individual 😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅

  • @delex6005
    @delex6005 6 років тому

    how did 2 change to k in 4.18

    • @delex6005
      @delex6005 6 років тому

      Trefor Bazett
      Ohh..I get it now..Thanks so much

    • @codecleric4972
      @codecleric4972 11 місяців тому

      Old comment but I'm replying if anyone else was confused. I was confused too but basically the assumption is 2^k is greater than k. His equality has 2 * 2^k and he can thus assume also that 2 * 2^k is greater than 2 * 2^k

  • @suhailawm
    @suhailawm 5 років тому

    tnx

  • @B0sTonCeltics20534
    @B0sTonCeltics20534 Рік тому

    Oy bruv why didn't you just start the problem with the given domain n > 1

  • @MrConverse
    @MrConverse 2 роки тому

    Why not just use ‘greater than or equal to’ in the last step instead of all that extra work?