2023 Suzuki VStrom 800 DE | First Ride

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  • @Adam-xo9ro
    @Adam-xo9ro Рік тому +71

    Every single review = "This bike is amazing!".

    • @Malikot911
      @Malikot911 Рік тому +29

      Most bikes are

    • @veyselsis1007
      @veyselsis1007 Рік тому +3

      Haha ure right

    • @2WheelsGood.01
      @2WheelsGood.01 Рік тому +18

      It's hard to find a bad motorcycle these days.

    • @getty6974
      @getty6974 Рік тому +8

      To me, currently i think there are propably 2 bikes that i dont really like. Kawasaki 650cc bikes are just so booring, they do everything but the engine is just so flat. The other one is BMW RnineT, they look cool but to me it is the handling on them, front feel is so heavy and transmission on them just simply put sucks.

    • @themrknowitall1
      @themrknowitall1 Рік тому +3

      As someone who has owned several bikes the first ride is always fun. He does give you good feedback as he’s riding so if you’re interested in buying one listen to the use case and see if it suits your riding style.

  • @falchiherve2024
    @falchiherve2024 Рік тому +23

    I bought one on south of France...allready made 2000 km on it...this bike is surprisingly powerfull...man...this engine in B or A mode is à blast
    In love with this bike
    V stroms have always been fantastic bikes....this is another one

  • @djrandizz
    @djrandizz Рік тому +29

    I can’t wait to get this exact one. Love the color, love the Suzuki history of reliability, normally a brand new model bike I would wait but I trust Suzuki. Looks like a bike that wants to be your friend and go on adventures

    • @falchiherve2024
      @falchiherve2024 Рік тому +3

      I bought one too here in France ....2000 km on the odo.....à blast

  • @benjaminmorse9263
    @benjaminmorse9263 Рік тому +7

    One thing I like about Chase vs every other Motojournalist is that he doesn’t blur his gauges all the time. Great content with good variety of bikes. Managed to earn a sub from me

  • @Darkrider8500
    @Darkrider8500 Рік тому +9

    This morning I tested 2020 Tiger GT 900, a Tiger 660, and the new DE800. I really was surprised how much I loved the DE800. I think it won or the 8s as well. That 660 engine is seductive as hell too. Now I have to sit back and decide

    • @danielm6507
      @danielm6507 Рік тому +3

      Out of those, can't go wrong with Suzuki's reliability track record and worldwide parts / dealer availability.

  • @KHender
    @KHender Рік тому +6

    Oh snap Suzuki! That exhaust note is strong!

  • @bendriscoll302
    @bendriscoll302 Рік тому +17

    This thing seriously needs cruise control. It'd be an awesome bike for long highway tints.

    • @joecamel6835
      @joecamel6835 Рік тому +1

      So is a Versys 650 for half the price .

  • @danielm6507
    @danielm6507 Рік тому +2

    My pops just bought one and can confirm, it is amazing!!

  • @dannycorella5887
    @dannycorella5887 Рік тому +4

    My gsxr has that gray, I love it

  • @Tripplebeem
    @Tripplebeem Рік тому +5

    This colorway is fire, just wish it came with the gold wheels.

  • @massidik190
    @massidik190 Рік тому +5

    Just really nice and on point bike that's why I bought one 😊

  • @richardwarsinske7064
    @richardwarsinske7064 Рік тому +21

    Looks good, definitely the best color option for this bike! 5500rpm vibration a bit of a concern but loved the motors responsive hit in the 40 to 80 pull. Hope you get your hands on the GSX 8S soon!

    • @NoSkillzMoto
      @NoSkillzMoto Рік тому +8

      I own a Vstrom 800 DE. The Vibration are minimal compared to Versys or CFMoto MT650

    • @richardwarsinske7064
      @richardwarsinske7064 Рік тому +2

      @@NoSkillzMoto Thanks for sharing that info! Curious what kind of gas mileage your getting? I'm actually interested in the GSX 8S model but it comes with a fairly small gas capacity and so far I've only seen mileage figures from the press launches (where the bikes are ridden harder than normal) and am interested what kind of real world mileage I should expect.

    • @NoSkillzMoto
      @NoSkillzMoto Рік тому

      @@richardwarsinske7064 Still under 1k. Need to break in the motorcyle engine first. You do need 90+ Octane in it.

    • @jmsmikey
      @jmsmikey Рік тому

      @@NoSkillzMoto How is it's heat management? SO many adventure bikes cook your legs.

    • @NoSkillzMoto
      @NoSkillzMoto Рік тому +2

      @@jmsmikey It does get warm but not to the levels of Crotch boil of a CFMoto MT650 or Triumph. I have Klim short boots and Traverse pants and I was doing parking lot test for about 20 minutes in 28C and it did get warm around the feet and knees. On the high way it was not an issue. Definitely not the same as the vstrom 650 but I didn't mind the amount of heat.

  •  Рік тому +3

    The fact that you have 2nd person perspective video is worth everything. Awesome work in a world of 6000 fpv reviewers with shitty video of a handlebar for 30 mins. Keep it coming 💪

    • @BlackRiverRider
      @BlackRiverRider Рік тому

      When you have a whole camera crew to help you, things like that are possible lol.

    • @slipngrip
      @slipngrip 11 місяців тому

      IKR, I cannot stand the pov style review. I mean, show me the fucking bike.

  • @dennismurray4999
    @dennismurray4999 Рік тому +3

    Another great first ride and a sharp looking bike. Suzuki might have a winner on their hands. Stay safe and enjoy the ride.

  • @pinkies_up_garage
    @pinkies_up_garage Рік тому +2

    Totally right about how much power you need. I recently test rode a Pan America at Babes Ride out. It has an amazing engine, like crazy good...but at over 600 lbs wet and darn near 30k... It's really hard to justify. Cost/benefit, 800 cc is great for touring and some light off-road

  • @jaybou007
    @jaybou007 Рік тому +6

    I was waiting for this one. This is probably my first pick for my first ADV bike following my overall first bike, which is a Spartvilen 401.
    I really like how Suzuki worked things out. Everything is well put together, including the tail rack that doesn't look tacked there like on a Kawasaki. It doesn't look like an after tought, is what i'm saying.
    I'm really tempted. At the same time, is it *too* tamed? Will I get bored by a *too* perfect bike? I need to get a test ride...

  • @bajacore
    @bajacore Рік тому +9

    Add cruise control, heated grips and bring the price down to say $10,999 (DE)/$11,999 (DE Adv) and you have yourself a very strong competitor in the segment.

    • @alphacapo
      @alphacapo Рік тому +3

      People that buy new adventure bikes 1k isn't make or break to them. This bike is priced right where it needs to be in the adv segment. What adv bike has all the stuff u say at 11k?

    • @motorcycle-man
      @motorcycle-man 18 днів тому

      L take

  • @zudosmg
    @zudosmg Рік тому +9

    Stock exhaust sounds pretty decent actually!

    • @Nulrom
      @Nulrom 11 місяців тому

      Nah, is very quiet. Is more like a suppressor than an exhaust. But he does that job very well, sounds are in check for long rides.

    • @blackskunk54
      @blackskunk54 10 місяців тому

      It does, I have ridden the RE and DE and both sound great, not loud, but pleasant.

  • @moorepower13
    @moorepower13 Рік тому +5

    I remember Suzuki doing surveys for this bike and I didn't check cruse control as a top priority. Remember for ever person say they must have somethin, there is 2 more saying they want something simpler. The 1050 has it if you need it.

  • @guille_snapshooter
    @guille_snapshooter Рік тому +2

    no one need more power, everyone WANTS more power, because its just fun jaja. i guess we get used to the power we have, and miss the feeling of excitement of a strong pull

  • @MotoFishy
    @MotoFishy 8 місяців тому

    For me it was a purchase. I got this color scheme as well because it is definitely the sharpest looking one. That said, I have also added crash bars, a proper skid plate, have luggage coming, barkbusters coming, and will be getting a kaoko cruise control adapter to solve that problem.

  • @l0s_n4ch0s6
    @l0s_n4ch0s6 Рік тому +1

    always like me a v-strom, super cool advs

  • @Davidhall10
    @Davidhall10 5 місяців тому

    You just sold me on this bike ,it looks awesome .

  • @1sttimegunowner
    @1sttimegunowner Рік тому

    Been waitjng for this!!!!!

  • @craigbutler3378
    @craigbutler3378 Рік тому +4

    How did we used to survive without cruise control back in the 😂😂

    • @blackskunk54
      @blackskunk54 10 місяців тому +2

      Yes, exactly, having ridden 53 yrs without it I do wonder what all the fuss is about. We had no ABS, no Traction Control, no Tubeless tyres, no CC, no RBW, no fuel gauge, no air temp, no heated grips, no indicators, no GPS...etc, etc, and people still rode around the world no problem

  • @ROTV-DanLockhart
    @ROTV-DanLockhart Рік тому +5

    Thanks for this review, Chase. I would agree if you're gonna be putting miles away, you have to have cruise control. Nothing wears me down more than having to stay on top of the throttle. I don't understand why Suzuki would not have included that.

  • @carlosvejar3938
    @carlosvejar3938 4 місяці тому

    I pick the Road version of this bike next Saturday. It has road biased tires and a 19in front

  • @billboring3925
    @billboring3925 8 місяців тому

    I agree with you, Chase. The cruise control is a big deal. Specially, if you’re traveling, if you can, get cruise control on the ibex, which is a cheaper bike less money and you’re getting cruise control look out Suzuki Honda, Yamaha Chinese are common strong. better wake up or it’s too late.👍

  • @CCitis
    @CCitis Рік тому +2

    One downside is premium gas. The 650 goes with the cheap stuff. Better range too. And if you are commuting that matters.

    • @blackskunk54
      @blackskunk54 10 місяців тому

      The range is the same for me. I had a DL650XT 2020 and have ridden the DE and RE and found the MPG about the same, and as the tank is the same size, the Range will be the same.

    • @CCitis
      @CCitis 10 місяців тому

      You are the only one I have heard say that!@@blackskunk54

  • @triot2127
    @triot2127 Рік тому

    I am very interested in this bike. All the reviews have been good so far.

  • @keithpassmoor8584
    @keithpassmoor8584 10 місяців тому +1

    I have cruise control on my v85tt and in the summer rode from the uk to Italy 4500 miles in 17 days hardly used cruise control a little bit over rated if were honest how many tines do we use it with the roads so congested?

  • @Lanolin410
    @Lanolin410 Рік тому +2

    If glass sparkle black was available in the non pannier version, Suzuki would’ve won my business.

  • @beborodner930
    @beborodner930 Рік тому

    Love your reviews. Been looking forward to this one. . would love to see you do a small off roadie section for these adv bikes.. like you did with the KLR review..

  • @hankgs
    @hankgs Рік тому +1

    ADV bikes are the best all arounders hands down... especially on our bad U.S. infrastructure crumbling roads.

    • @blackskunk54
      @blackskunk54 10 місяців тому

      The roads in the UK are awful too, some pot holes are about 12" deep

  • @MrDevildogokc
    @MrDevildogokc Рік тому +1

    Does it not have turn signals? Didn't see them come on once.

  • @dmelson7502
    @dmelson7502 Рік тому

    I had a hand on this bike today but cruise control is a huge thing for me.

  • @ragerider6283
    @ragerider6283 Рік тому

    Nice review. I like the bike. Definitely don't need more power but could do with less weight. It's got quite good spec but it is fairly expensive.

  • @turinhorse
    @turinhorse Рік тому

    Great Bike!

  • @mr1bienvenu1
    @mr1bienvenu1 Рік тому +2

    Just go to 3:45

  • @chandan403
    @chandan403 6 місяців тому

    Does it have ride by wire? If yes, cruise control is something which can be installed as an add-on

  • @DayIsGOne0621
    @DayIsGOne0621 Рік тому

    Need to try and get your hands on the Husqvarna Norden 901 adv bike!

  • @GROMSQUATCH
    @GROMSQUATCH Рік тому

    Im between this and the Tenere 700..trading mt07 on whichever one i get... im a bigger person 6'2 279lbs. really depends on which ones suspension is better stock with adjustments.. wish i could try both out

    • @youssefallali716
      @youssefallali716 11 місяців тому +1

      Tenere 700 for the suspension, but of you use the highway for lo'g distance Suzuki will be very helpful

  • @surendarmohan9878
    @surendarmohan9878 Рік тому +1

    Suzuki has a bigger wind screen for V strom 800de as an accessory

    • @bcinspectorman
      @bcinspectorman Рік тому

      So why not make the smaller screen an accessory? They put on a quick shifter but they can't put on a decent windscreen that actually works? If they were designing a truly adventure bike to go offroad why would you need a quick shifter? It's an adventure touring bike that once again is designed for 90% tarmac.

    • @blackskunk54
      @blackskunk54 10 місяців тому

      @@bcinspectorman The small screen is for off-road use which the DE is aimed at. I have ridden the DE and the small screen is fine on the road, though.

  • @Junkfiles446
    @Junkfiles446 Рік тому +1

    this or the ibex 800?

  • @judge831
    @judge831 Рік тому +2

    I like the blue yellow color scheme option. Lack of cruise control is a letdown.

  • @angelsanchez2086
    @angelsanchez2086 Рік тому

    Have you done a review on the 21+ ZX-10R?

  • @marklescault9429
    @marklescault9429 Рік тому

    How do you feel it would work for a beginner?

  • @austinagar1778
    @austinagar1778 Рік тому +2

    How does it compare to the ibex?????

  • @oxyg3n600
    @oxyg3n600 Рік тому

    The main thing I would like to know about this suzuki is how plush is on the road.. how it'dealing with bumps and road imperfections. Does it produce some headshake or its super plush. Tnx.

  • @julianlora_
    @julianlora_ Рік тому +2

    That's a gundam colorway.

  • @thodoris3790
    @thodoris3790 Рік тому +2

    i prefer it than the transalp

  • @kurc24k76
    @kurc24k76 Рік тому

    Please make a review of the GSX-8S as well i know the engine is the same but i would love to hear what you think about it!

  • @KHender
    @KHender Рік тому

    That new new V Strom!

  • @Adventure_blac
    @Adventure_blac Рік тому +2

    Cf moto ibex 800T has 94 horsepower. Suzuki has 83 horsepower. Not the same at all. Both have the same torque

    • @woodknack1
      @woodknack1 Рік тому

      Ya he got that one wrong for sure.

  • @Stubor-z6c
    @Stubor-z6c Рік тому +1

    Off road this thing shines. On road it is better than the Tenere and the KTM 890R. Being bested only slightly by the 890r in the dirt.

  • @EBM_Worldwide
    @EBM_Worldwide Рік тому +3

    im not buyin some cheap ass ibex800t, crazy that youd pass on this for chinese garbage for cheap

  • @billboring3925
    @billboring3925 9 місяців тому

    Suzuki made a mistake by not putting cruise control on this bike. They really need to do that.

  • @F3udF1st
    @F3udF1st 8 місяців тому

    Highway is utter chaos, what's going on? Passing on the left, cars just going in all lanes at the same speed, wtf

  • @NoSkillzMoto
    @NoSkillzMoto Рік тому +11

    Direct competitor to CFMoto Ibex.. Seriously as a former owner of a CFMoto.. Please don't compare as far as I am concerned Chinese CFMoto Trash to Suzuki. Sorry not Sorry. CFMoto for some reason keep getting shilled all the time as "good" Nope.. They need another 3-5 years of catching up in QA, and design, but they are cheap and keep throwing "features" at the bike to make them seem like a great buy but will most likely fail. I hate CFMoto and at this time I say avoid this brand. Ditched my CFMoto for VStrom 800DE

  • @acadenacci
    @acadenacci Рік тому

    Mi piacerebbe sapere se il motore scalda, grazie.

  • @andyyougoonie
    @andyyougoonie Рік тому

    Heck yeah!!!! First!!!! EAT THAT ONE YANTO AND GHOST!!!

  • @dominicreeves9639
    @dominicreeves9639 Рік тому

    Cool now the gsx8s please

  • @peledalon13
    @peledalon13 Рік тому

    When are we gonna see a Honda Hornet 750 first ride?

  • @drowswolley4661
    @drowswolley4661 Рік тому

    which one you prefer? 800DE or 800MT

  • @donnyjackson1908
    @donnyjackson1908 5 місяців тому

    This or a Tiger 660 sport for touring and commuting
    🤔

  • @terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

    It is enough power solo but not sure I would like that two up hauling luggage. Tubed tyres not very practical for the average road rider though. You get a puncture in a group tour and you’re waiting for a tow truck unless you can fix it yourself.

    • @falchiherve2024
      @falchiherve2024 Рік тому +1

      Did you ride it?? The power is astonishing.......i was very surprised !!!😊

    • @elbolillo2703
      @elbolillo2703 Рік тому +1

      I don't understand this thinking, I have put Thousands of miles on spoke wheels and never had a problem

    • @terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff
      @terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Рік тому

      @@falchiherve2024 I'm a fan of the Suzuki ethos and that bikes engine seems awesome & universally liked. I just don't fancy tubes.

    • @terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff
      @terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Рік тому

      @@elbolillo2703 It is a very simple concept to understand is it not? Like you I have travelled many miles and years and never had a puncture then I get four in a relatively short space of time. It is totally random. But those four times I was glad I was not waiting for a tow truck in the middle on no where (with any riding buddies inconvenienced by me) or trying to take the wheel off to change it myself.

    • @elbolillo2703
      @elbolillo2703 Рік тому

      @@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff preventative maintenance, you have to check your spokes

  • @tonywarisa2905
    @tonywarisa2905 Рік тому

    Do jawa 42 350 review

  • @rench55
    @rench55 Рік тому

    Nice review!
    Never do the "robot" again...

  • @killaklonezrc1744
    @killaklonezrc1744 Рік тому

    Just for that robotic dance engine revving... U earn a sub n a like... great review by the way...😊

  • @MrKing1961
    @MrKing1961 Рік тому +2

    Tube tires Junk

  • @mhult5873
    @mhult5873 Рік тому

    I also experienced a vibration, at ca 5000 rpm, when testing the bike. It was a tingling in my feets from the foot pegs and it was actually so much vibration that it’s a showstopper for me. It was very noticeable vibrations with my boots. Could be not a problem for other people, but for me it was. At the highways where I live it´s around 70-75 MPH, I believe right in the "vibration rpm" of ca 5000-5500 RPM? Very unfortunate, because IMO the bike was otherwise great. And also great looking bike, to boot.

    • @podunkman2709
      @podunkman2709 Рік тому

      U have no vibration at 5000. They appear at slightly less than 6000. And praticaly only on the right side othe engine, feet part.

  • @toltod
    @toltod Рік тому

    is that muffler bracket bolt on or welded to the frame? Its a weak part of the Yamaha T7.

  • @roysyntageros4191
    @roysyntageros4191 Рік тому

    More bling on the 800MT but for my money id rather have the 800DE. If I had a dollar for everytime someone said "Yeah but its got a KTM engine on the 800MT " i'd be a millionare. hahaha
    I have had an invite to go test ride the 800MT and I'm sure it will ride well but for re sale you will take a big hit. Not so with a Suzuki.

    • @ChristosTsaousidis
      @ChristosTsaousidis Рік тому +1

      consumption and build quality-wise, suzuki is just better

  • @DennyDirge
    @DennyDirge Рік тому +4

    No V twin, it's a parallel twin. It's not a a V-strom, it's a Pee Stream.

    • @cedric7016
      @cedric7016 Рік тому +2

      V stands for versatility!

    • @viperq
      @viperq Рік тому +1

      😆😅🤣

    • @RemingtinArms
      @RemingtinArms Рік тому +1

      ​@@cedric7016 bro just let him have it, that joke slapped.

  • @ralphcantrell3214
    @ralphcantrell3214 Рік тому +1

    V-Strom?? It is a parallel twin, so shouldn't it be the "P-Strom"?

  • @gra0930
    @gra0930 Рік тому

    Also didn’t say who the bike was for or what it’s good at, completely skirted that piece

  • @RemingtinArms
    @RemingtinArms Рік тому

    This is so annoying. I ride an fz6r and was pretty set between the tiger sport 660 and the klx300sm as i live on top of a mountain now and could use something a lil dirtier.
    Now Suzuki dark horses out of nowhere with this and I've got a 3 way battle for my heart going on.

  • @insanemadmanroom2299
    @insanemadmanroom2299 Рік тому

    trying to keep up with cfmoto ibex800 you just get a lot more on the ibex800 and $1000 less

  • @americandude3825
    @americandude3825 Рік тому +1

    Nope. Still doesn’t tug on my “I want this” string. Still stuck on a Kawasaki versys 1000 2019+. I know different class but that’s ok.

    • @Jeffrey_t_e
      @Jeffrey_t_e Рік тому +1

      Same

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 Рік тому

      @@Jeffrey_t_e I road a 23 versys 100 se LT at a Kawasaki demo event a few weeks ago.
      Freaking amazing big from the factory. Only thing I would do is an exhaust that’s a little louder.

    • @Jeffrey_t_e
      @Jeffrey_t_e Рік тому +1

      @@americandude3825 ironically, I also rode a V1000 at a demo event last year in Yuba City, CA. Loved it. Although, coming off of my 2022 KLR, I had to use a lot more countersteer on the V.

  • @adamkreuz9068
    @adamkreuz9068 Рік тому +1

    Ohhhh no cruise control is a big negative

  • @Trailgod865
    @Trailgod865 11 місяців тому

    Does it give you dopamine???? Bout to pick me one up 😂

  • @chazlyle41
    @chazlyle41 5 місяців тому

    Insane mid level bikes don’t get cruise. Suppose they bag a few more liter bike sales from it.

  • @MrLilredmachine
    @MrLilredmachine Місяць тому

    All of these parrallel twins are all better in the off-road/trailie style bikes. Probably because that is where they belong...

  • @Reppyboyo
    @Reppyboyo Рік тому

    This or the Honda Transalp is the big question here.

    • @blackskunk54
      @blackskunk54 10 місяців тому

      The Suzuki's are more fun to ride with more torque and easy to ride at low speeds (and I have the Honda, which is getting nervous)

  • @Shtelman100
    @Shtelman100 Рік тому

    Real off road test?

  • @joecamel6835
    @joecamel6835 Рік тому

    I love engine braking but try to be nice to the engine,unlike when I ride the power band..not so nice to the engine then 😈.

  • @tg8150
    @tg8150 Рік тому

    No cruise means not really a competitor. Plus, like any newer Suzuki model, they’ll be impossible to find at dealers. I waited 2 years on my 2022 MT-09 unicorn. Id’d like to add this to my stable but a Triumph is easier to find.

  • @Loe7
    @Loe7 Рік тому

    Yo can you go tell Yumi his account got hacked? It’s kinda fucked rn

  • @aldemarco9753
    @aldemarco9753 Рік тому

    But it shouldn't be called V Strom anymore, just Strom 800......

  • @elithegreat6463
    @elithegreat6463 Рік тому +6

    What a colossal blunder by the Geniuses at Suzuki for not putting a cruise control on a bike like this. Probably Democrats !!🤡😩🤡

  • @mustaphaelkacimi1894
    @mustaphaelkacimi1894 Рік тому

    i wish hhh

  • @gantin100
    @gantin100 Рік тому

    I think they really need to change the price point for the 650, for 2 grand more you can get their 800

  • @Stno3582
    @Stno3582 Рік тому

    looks A LOT like bmw f800gs

  • @iBon1wheel
    @iBon1wheel Рік тому +1

    The front looks like a duck 😂

  • @gra0930
    @gra0930 Рік тому

    Looks good but corners were cut. Skid plate, screen, no CC, seat seeems ok. 9,995 bike all day long

  • @andyyougoonie
    @andyyougoonie Рік тому

    Was i first?

  • @sp3associate
    @sp3associate Рік тому +3

    How you dare to compare Chinese motorcycle with Japanese...

  • @matthewdemello
    @matthewdemello Рік тому

    Nope. Vstrom seat sucks after 45 minutes.... Trust me. Too soft.

  • @andyyougoonie
    @andyyougoonie Рік тому

    1

  • @woodknack1
    @woodknack1 Рік тому

    You said your IBEX 800t has less power than this. I believe you are wrong there. Your IBEX has 95hp the Suzuki has 83hp and both bikes have around the same torque. I am loving MY IBEX ! I do like the looks and color scheme on the Suzuki though. But man I can't get enough of my IBEX.