I enjoyed watching your video very much. My first Range Rover was a second-hand one in 1974 which I sold very quickly as it only did around 12mpg. I vowed never to buy another but relented in 1988 when I bought a new 2.4 VM diesel. Since then I've had a new 2.5 VM diesel, new 1994 and 1998 diesels, a 2002 L322 diesel and latest one a 2013 L405 diesel which has been the best one to date. It does around 30mpg and I've done over 50k miles so far. It might be my last one as I'm now in my 80s Since 1988 I've never regretted buying a Range Rover and have enjoyed every moment of the driving experience.
Your multi-part history of the Range Rover has been exceptional! I had a Rover/Land Rover parts business in San Diego, California from 1974 to 1986. I got out of that business when I lost total respect for B.L.'s marketing. (A year or so before quitting the Rover business, I approached Chrysler and tried to first get Chrysler to market Land Rover's products in North America; after several months, I changed my tune to having Chrysler buy Land Rover from its then owner, British Aerospace. I was still pushing this in August 1986 when Lee Iacocca wrote to say that Chrysler had given up on buying Land Rover. Mr. Iacocca did not say they were then looking into AMC/Jeep.) It took a few years to realize that Iacocca and Chrysler did the smart thing. Jeep's became better over a period of several years (or more). AMC got the chop---as well it should have. Watching your videos would push me into looking into the purchase of a new Range Rover or possibly the latest generation Defender, if it weren't for the fact that I moved from where I was living in Utah to the small island of Molokai in Hawaii in March 2019. Every one of your videos I've seen on UA-cam has been fabulous. You always do your homework! I very much appreciate your knowledge of the vehicles and corporations you "lecture" us on. It is a great pleasure listening to you talk. You'd be one hell of a great car salesman had you decided to go into sales! Well done! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Molokai, 8 May 2022.
As a Texan who drives nothing but full size pickup trucks, I love your channel. British cars fascinate me, and your videos are packed full of entertaining facts.
On my 5th Range Rover and loved every one. Can't understand comments about reliability. Apart from servicing and parts, I've had 100% reliability: No.1 (P38) did 154,000 mls, No.2 (P38) did 127,000 mls, No. 3 (L322) did 184,000 mls, no 4 (L322) did 123,000 mls and No. 5 (L405) has done 87,000 mls and is halfway... No.3 was my favourite - BMW V8 running on LPG! Sad to see it go.
Thank you. I'm about to buy one in a couple of days. I hear all this stuff about their unreliability, but its almost always hearsay. Glad to hear from someone who has stuck with the brand for a good long while.
This was your best marque history yet! I really enjoyed how comprehensive it was as well as how well you explained the complicated owner and model aspects. Well done!
Thanks Rob. The more I got into it the longer I knew it would become so I got everything. Even then I skimmed over the later years of the car a little.
Jag/Range Rover is/was one of those car makers that I was curious about regarding their future in a post-real-Top-Gear world. Like them or hate them, but those three guys did more for the wider knowledge/interest in of British* car makers that anything/anyone else. It’s good to know that such an iconic brand is still going strong and has been one of the few success stories of the British car industry. *regardless of who owns them, some car makers will always be British.
Indeed. After living in the UK for 25 years and the US for 25 years I'm less keen on being patriotic, and more keen on companies that do great things, preferably without sacrificing employee happiness or the environment.
@@ravipeiris4388 because they are still created by the British and not the Indians, Tata invested alot as an owner, but they didn't involve in product creation as JLR would do a much better job than them anyway, especially around the time of purchase.
I remember watching a recording of that Top Gear special about British cars which went on and on about the greatness and promise of the British car industry, finishing with a massive, dramatic display of a Union Jack ...then as the end credits began to roll the BBC announcer came on: "And next up, what killed the British auto industry?". I am not kidding, that really happened.
This one's up there with the 911, Capri and Interceptor. I went in one in 1970, brand new, must've been one of the first one's off the line. It belonged to an Uncle who ran a hotel in Torquay. Faulty took me and my Dad out in it to get some eggs from a farm in Dartmoor, it was beige of course. Showing it off, he drove up onto a grass verge at one point. When we reached the entrance to the farm Faulty let Dad have a go, expecting him to drive up the track. To Faulty's horror, Dad didn't, instead he drove it straight across a ploughed field much to the amusement of the farm hands. The car was plastered in mud.
Good one. Enjoyed that and nice to see Tata is enjoying success where others have failed. Miss the fact that there is no Land Rover anymore tho. Worthy opponent to the Jeep CJ series
There's the Defender to kinda rival Jeep's JL Wrangler, all JLR needed was a good amount of investment and freedom from owners to do its own thing, that was what Tata did.
Owned a 2011 range rover sport excellent car fast supremely comfortable brilliant off road and luxurious far better built than the x6 I owned previously and far better to drive and it was totally reliable, the problems come when folk buy them third hand and can't afford to service and maintain them even older range rovers are reliable if come with full service history and they still look ace the rolex watch of the car world
Thanks a well produced history of an iconic British marque. I owned 2 Discos, then a Range Rover, then a Sport HSE, but after 20 years with Land Rover, I moved on. I also got given a 1 year old XK8, but never really got round to using it very much, so moved it on. Keep producing these videos, and your other channel.
Having an utter hatred for the SUV/crossover market, Range Rover products are about the only ones I have interest in. Very interesting video, thank you!
@@Jabber-ig3iw I don't hate suv's, but I draw the line there, as crossovers are starting to be ridiculous, pointless and generally bland cars that actually do NOT have any advantage over any of the original niches, on the contrary even.
I like American full size SUVs, and the rear wheel drive mid size SUVs from everywhere,. They are like a station wagon but with off-road capabilities generally speaking. That being said I can't think of one American market SUV I really want or would buy.
@@TheChill001 I could not agree more. The crossovers are like clones of each other, irrespective of what brand they are. They all look the same: boring.
V enjoyable and informative as ever. Remember that Top Gear when the 3 presenters had to buy a cheap 4WD in Bolivia, and Clarksons Range Rover towed everyone else out of the mire.
So this is the reason that Apple doesn’t come with bold new designs for their iMac, MacBooks and iPhone, being afraid of pitchfork wielding mobs of Apple Fans.
Nemo D333 Why revolt? Apple iOS’ are able to be upgraded for up to 6 years, as opposed to Hemorrhoid OS, which you’re lucky to get 2 years of updates out of it. At least androids are stable... oh wait. Secure? Nope Reliable? Not in my history of owning a Galaxy 4. Apples keep their value much better, btw.
I liked the way he explained how BMW and Ford made a difference to the brand but then when Tata took over he started explaining about how the designer made a difference and that Tata's investment was worth it. Give Tata some credit!
He did. Tata bought it and invested millions of dollars. But I think Tata didn't do much control, they let the board of Jaguar Land Rover to have full reign to what they do, because they know better what they are doing. Tata would be just happy to own the two marques to add prestige to their brand.
This is not just a car, this is a lifestyle. This is an Eddie Bauer edition. Tortoise-shell interior, super-charged twin cam, European luxury sports utility vehicle, my friend.
I bought a 2015 Evoque, the transmission broke around 38K miles, thank God it was still under warranty, other wise it would have cost me ~$12K to get it fixed. I do love my Evoque and would buy another Range Rover if I have the $.
Ah, the story of my automotive life from 1990 to 2015. You forgot to mention that BMW stripped the company, they stripped out Solihull engineering blocks computer hard drives, kept the mini, as they didn’t know how to build either front wheel drive or 4x4, plus they took the plans for Rovers medium size montego/maestro replacement, the RDX60 which became BMWs 1 series. They only saw JLR as a development place they could poach the British designs
JLR Products are not perfect, sure, But im so glad that they are both still around today, Not only that but after test driving them i understand why people live with them, They give so much emotion in driving unlike any other brand, and for most people who dont want to change their car every 3 years, any service costs are worth the little extra you generally pay, If you are in the UK they are not expensive to maintain, just average, meanwhile you will consistently get overcharged on smaller cars, And if you look on the used market the depreciation is high, and thats good if you find a nice one with all the extras and you want to save some cash, Thats how i own a XE S right now.
I'm a tata employee(vistara airlines) in india,they care a lot about employee satisfaction which inturn reflects into the responsibility we should uphold
Always liked Range Rovers but put off by their scores in reliability surveys. The new cars look really well put together though! Also this is a great video, always like the care you put into them. I never knew they had so many owners and great to see the brand survive and thrive
Another top class video, sir. Always loved the Range Rover. Remember the launch in 1970. It was amazing. Could you do the Jaguar XJ Series 1 to Series 3? I know you'd do it justice. Excellent as always.
As a previous Discovery 3 owner and a current Discovery 4 owner, it would be nice to see the Discovery Story. Excellent stories by the way, have kept me entertained during those miserable days of lockdown. 👍
The only Land Rover I ever owned, for about 4 or 5 years, was a restored road-legal 1952 Series 1 80” in green with a detachable metal roof and detachable door windows. The roof and windows were unrestored. The 2 L petrol engine had a brass tag with Made in Solihull. Unlike later Defenders, it wasn't full-time 4WD, it had the 2WD-4WD lever. What I found amusing was the fuel tank was under the seat. The wipers were hopeless, powered by two windshield-mounted motors similar to old tractors. I sold it to a hunting event company, they wanted it to take guests out shotgun shooting. I got as much as I paid for it and it went to a suitable environment.
It was an abandoned 80's London Taxi proposal with parts bin stuff from many British car makers, BL and Ford at least. There is a London Cab documentary covering this from either Big Car or Ruairidh McVeigh :)
Great video as always, but just a small correction - the Range Rover first became a hybrid in late 2014 early 2015 twinned with the 3.0 diesel, it was only when facelifted that it changed to the 2.0 petrol. Land Rover have also very recently announced a plug in hybrid Evoque which uses a 1.5 litre Ingenium petrol.
visited the LR factory recently. got lost as the site was a nightmare to find my way about. the security guard laughed when i came out as he did warn me.
My parents used to have a P38 generation 1999 Range Rover Vogue when I was little, with cream leather and black piping around the seats. I still remember to this day going to the former Worksop recycling centre in it not far from the nearby Tesco when I was about 4 or 5 years old, before it closed down in 2007.
@@gc2234 Actually, sorry to disappoint, but when we were in Mackay, Australia, I was going to buy one. But the Prado LandCruiser was just too good to ignore, and far more reliable. The reliability was the deal breaker as a breakdown can spell disaster in outback Australia. But, hey, if you want to buy an overpriced piece of crap to feel good about yourself, knock yourself out.
@@andrewthomas695 Yeah good idea, stick with the cheap and tacky Toy-ota... you need to make sure you get to your McDonalds night shift on time before your boss fires your ass. 😂 Whereas the CEO of the company drives a Range Rover because hey, who cares if it breaks down 🤷♂️... he can afford it. 💪
@@BigCar2 I think a big part of it was that they marketed it as the world's cheapest car, without realizing that nobody wants to be seen in a car with such downmarket connotations. Plus there were a bunch of manufacturing delays because the factories had to be shifted at the last minute for some reason. Don't know the full story because I was only a kid then, but I'd love to see your take on the Nano! :)
@@BigCar2 "Wrong Branding" they branded it as cheap car and in India car is status symbol. "Manufacturing Defects" total three cars were caught on fire, I know that is not lot when your selling thousands of cars but wait for my next point. "Lazy Management" when these news about fire were coming out they did nothing but watch. Anyway Tata Nano was sold good number of cars initially, they had about 200,000 pre booking orders. It was total engineering success, no one could produce car which costs just $2500.
@@tendstofortytwo shifying the factory part was political , the factory was located in a village in west bengal state of india , but the then opposition leader mamta banerjee protested against it since she was trying garner support from the farmers of that area and tata had to eventually shift the whole plant from west bengal to gujarat whose chief Minister was mr Narendra modi , our current prime minister
@@BigCar2 They marketed it as the world's cheapest car, a car that could be purchased for the same price as a good motorbike. However the marketing heads at Tata Motors did not even have an inkling that this strategy would never work. Buying your first car is always a special moment, a goal which you have worked towards day in and day out for years. However, there is no sense of achievement, pride, satisfaction and more importably prestige, if you buy the "cheapest" car in the world and your family and neighbours know about it. Ratan Tata (former Chairman of Tata) was personally involved in the project ands launched the Nano amidst much media fanfare and hype. However Tata only focused on the extremely low price of the Nano, and not so much on it's other merits such as being spacious enough for 4 adults (despite the small size), having a higher ride height than most other hatchbacks (essential for Indian roads during the monsoon), obviously being safer (just slightly) and more comfortable to drive in heavy traffic than a similarly priced motorbike. More than expected bookings were received which led to deliveries being delayed for nearly a year or two for most customers, so the hype had already died down. Conclusion: Bad marketing decision, which focused on the low price. In India Low Price = Poor Quality
I'm sure there are many genuine tales of woe about Range Rovers but I can tell you I have had quite a few serious issues with new BMW luxury models. My first RR was a 2012 Westminster 4.4 V8 diesel and from the moment I test drove it I was in love with the brand and I did 100,000 miles in it with only an oil leak and a driver's seat motor spoiling the fun; both were cheaply fixed. I'm now thinking about my third and contemplating the Vogue SE and can't contemplate how I would feel behind the wheel of anything less than this brand.
Excellent update! where do you find the concept drawings? I'm trying to find these for other cars like the BMW 3 Series etc. What designs they ruled out :D
You should do a video on the Porsche Cayenne!! It literally changed the brand and changed the kind of customer who would buy a Porsche. It would be fun to see the development and evolution.
The Velar had me. Otherwise I wouldn't be seen driving one especially as a daily driver. There's one major fix remaining now, the 'Sluggish Infotainment System' need an entire overhaul.
Tata took LR&J like a boss. I request you to make video on Tata Motors all cars like Sierra,Sumo,Indica, and even new generation 5 star NCAP cars like Altroz,Nexon,Tiago and also Harrier and new upcoming Gravitas. The Tata is doing great and I believe they deserve a mention on your channel so all the international audience can see how great work they are doing. Thankyou.
I should, but it would require a LOT of research as it isn't something I'm familiar with. But I'd love to do an Indian automotive success story. Any suggestions of sources to short cut my research?
The L322 suffered badly thanks to the low reliability of the BMW parts, things improved once the Ford/jaguar engine came in and they fixed the terrible front end problems (also BMW). The story appears to neglect that Honda had a 20% stake in Landrover and left when BMW came in, apparently they wanted a bigger stake, I wonder how Landrover would have fared with more Honda help?
@@richardrichard5409 To be fair it seems most major names in the automotive industry have had engine issues. I suspect regulations, poor management and accountants pressuring engineers to make poor choices that allow an engine to get to production that should not have.
Very unreliable cars...the freelancer was a disaster. Air suspension on the p38 was a problem ROVERS too suffered engine problems . These guys better merge with japanese car makers or sour e engines from them...toyota..honda
@@youngriley5326 prior to BMW buying it, Honda owned 20% of Landrover. The big problem with the P38 airsuspension was the computer logic that shut the system done everytime a fault was found. Generally the fault was minor, but the system shut down anyways. There is a way to bypass that shutdown. As for failing motors, almost every car company has a failing motor or transmission these days.
Great video I learned a lot about Land Rover’s history I have a 2020 Velar which my wife and I really enjoy and we are seriously thinking about buying a Range Rover Sport HST or the Supercharged V8 528 HP engine
As a fan of cars, car history and particularly older cars, your channel is car heaven! Discovered you recently and immediately subscribed! Great video as always and I wonder how many caught the photo of the engine at 5.04? Why is there a broom above the engine?!?!?! 😀🤔
Christopher Hallinan it’s not a proper Range Rover. But it is _a_ Range Rover whether we like it or not. I was washing my fatty on the roadside the other day, I don’t have a driveway. A passing Evoque driver engaged me for a full 5 or 10 minutes on the pleasures of ‘owning a Range Rover’. All I could do was agree 😂
Yet another great video, thanks Big Car. I find the part about Ford owning Jaguar and Land Rover particularly interesting, maybe consider doing a piece on the Premier Automotive Group that was?
Since Land Rover and Jaguar are already in the same group, that's unlikely. Jaguar is already making luxury saloons, if Rover comes back it would be a mainstream car manufacturer, not a luxury brand. Or they could make it a less sporty alternative to Jaguar
@@fireangel1067 I agree. JLR has Jaguar for luxury saloons. Rover might be introduced as an entry level brand. Bring back the Rover Metro I say! Great car!
Very satisfying doc. Great stuff as ever. You've covered events involving BMW from around 94 to early 2000s a few times, here, Rover cars, and no doubt one or two BMW models themselves. But might be interesting to cover the story of those 8 or so years from the pov of BMW as a company - Pieschitschreider (sp!!) partly emotional desire to grab Rover in general, not just LR, with ideas to revive old brands like Riley through to the dramatic breakup..
I start to do that a little in this video. It was while researching the question - "why did BMW get rid of Land Rover" which didn't make sense on the surface. This was to me the most interesting part of the video. But I might cover it more if I do a video on a BMW car from around that time.
Great video. Just one point to note, the diesel engines that were shared with Peugeot and Citroen were the V6 Diesels found in the Discovery and Range Rover Sport. The TDV8 engine that was in the L322 was only fitted to the Range Rover.
Nice video, keep them coming! ‘The BMW story’ would be interesting to see. At one point in east Germany a company made unlicensed BMW cars under the ‘EMW’ name with a red and white roundel. Just a suggestion, keep it up!
It was always BMW's intention to sell it. The X5 was borne from all the good bits of the Range Engine, split tailgate air suspension (they fixed it so it worked). The rest they left out. I've had 3 P-38's and 1 X5 - the X5 (engine notwithstanding as it was the same) was better and far more reliable in very way.but it wasn't a Range and you kind of knew that and that says something about how a Range Rover makes you feel; which is superior - even if it isn't so in reality. There is an air of snobbish country gent/lady about it. Horsey shooting types with a set in the Cotswolds. I live in the Cotswolds and most of those people who are those types actually drive Volvos, Audis ,X5's and Subarus!!!!
I enjoyed watching your video very much. My first Range Rover was a second-hand one in 1974 which I sold very quickly as it only did around 12mpg. I vowed never to buy another but relented in 1988 when I bought a new 2.4 VM diesel. Since then I've had a new 2.5 VM diesel, new 1994 and 1998 diesels, a 2002 L322 diesel and latest one a 2013 L405 diesel which has been the best one to date. It does around 30mpg and I've done over 50k miles so far. It might be my last one as I'm now in my 80s Since 1988 I've never regretted buying a Range Rover and have enjoyed every moment of the driving experience.
Cool
hope you survived in covid
@@pawangupta7613 thats such a stupid thing to say
U are rich bro
what a story 🤍🤍🤍
Your multi-part history of the Range Rover has been exceptional! I had a Rover/Land Rover parts business in San Diego, California from 1974 to 1986. I got out of that business when I lost total respect for B.L.'s marketing. (A year or so before quitting the Rover business, I approached Chrysler and tried to first get Chrysler to market Land Rover's products in North America; after several months, I changed my tune to having Chrysler buy Land Rover from its then owner, British Aerospace. I was still pushing this in August 1986 when Lee Iacocca wrote to say that Chrysler had given up on buying Land Rover. Mr. Iacocca did not say they were then looking into AMC/Jeep.) It took a few years to realize that Iacocca and Chrysler did the smart thing. Jeep's became better over a period of several years (or more). AMC got the chop---as well it should have. Watching your videos would push me into looking into the purchase of a new Range Rover or possibly the latest generation Defender, if it weren't for the fact that I moved from where I was living in Utah to the small island of Molokai in Hawaii in March 2019. Every one of your videos I've seen on UA-cam has been fabulous. You always do your homework! I very much appreciate your knowledge of the vehicles and corporations you "lecture" us on. It is a great pleasure listening to you talk. You'd be one hell of a great car salesman had you decided to go into sales! Well done! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Molokai, 8 May 2022.
As a Texan who drives nothing but full size pickup trucks, I love your channel. British cars fascinate me, and your videos are packed full of entertaining facts.
I do find British cars fascinating, but the failure stories are more fascinating, until I watched this
On my 5th Range Rover and loved every one. Can't understand comments about reliability. Apart from servicing and parts, I've had 100% reliability: No.1 (P38) did 154,000 mls, No.2 (P38) did 127,000 mls, No. 3 (L322) did 184,000 mls, no 4 (L322) did 123,000 mls and No. 5 (L405) has done 87,000 mls and is halfway...
No.3 was my favourite - BMW V8 running on LPG! Sad to see it go.
Thank you. I'm about to buy one in a couple of days. I hear all this stuff about their unreliability, but its almost always hearsay. Glad to hear from someone who has stuck with the brand for a good long while.
@@TheBookman32 how is your car so far?
And the recent stable success of the Range Rover is why Tata was able to fund the development of the new Land Rover Defender.
This was your best marque history yet! I really enjoyed how comprehensive it was as well as how well you explained the complicated owner and model aspects. Well done!
Thanks Rob. The more I got into it the longer I knew it would become so I got everything. Even then I skimmed over the later years of the car a little.
Jag/Range Rover is/was one of those car makers that I was curious about regarding their future in a post-real-Top-Gear world. Like them or hate them, but those three guys did more for the wider knowledge/interest in of British* car makers that anything/anyone else.
It’s good to know that such an iconic brand is still going strong and has been one of the few success stories of the British car industry.
*regardless of who owns them, some car makers will always be British.
Indeed. After living in the UK for 25 years and the US for 25 years I'm less keen on being patriotic, and more keen on companies that do great things, preferably without sacrificing employee happiness or the environment.
Regarding your comment, these cars are still "british" because Indians saved two companies from extinction.
@@ravipeiris4388 because they are still created by the British and not the Indians, Tata invested alot as an owner, but they didn't involve in product creation as JLR would do a much better job than them anyway, especially around the time of purchase.
I remember watching a recording of that Top Gear special about British cars which went on and on about the greatness and promise of the British car industry, finishing with a massive, dramatic display of a Union Jack ...then as the end credits began to roll the BBC announcer came on: "And next up, what killed the British auto industry?". I am not kidding, that really happened.
This one's up there with the 911, Capri and Interceptor.
I went in one in 1970, brand new, must've been one of the first one's off the line.
It belonged to an Uncle who ran a hotel in Torquay. Faulty took me and my Dad out in it to get some eggs from a farm in Dartmoor, it was beige of course.
Showing it off, he drove up onto a grass verge at one point. When we reached the entrance to the farm Faulty let Dad have a go, expecting him to drive up the track. To Faulty's horror, Dad didn't, instead he drove it straight across a ploughed field much to the amusement of the farm hands. The car was plastered in mud.
The new velar and f-pace is my favorite, velar is stunning and f-pace can handle way better than you think possible for a big suv.
Love Range Rover since i was in the 6th grade ( 1982 ). I have finally , got me one back in 2013 and love it . Working on my 2nd one !
Which gen’s do you own.. How’s the reliability?Thinking of getting a supercharged HSE …
Good one. Enjoyed that and nice to see Tata is enjoying success where others have failed. Miss the fact that there is no Land Rover anymore tho. Worthy opponent to the Jeep CJ series
There's the Defender to kinda rival Jeep's JL Wrangler, all JLR needed was a good amount of investment and freedom from owners to do its own thing, that was what Tata did.
Owned a 2011 range rover sport excellent car fast supremely comfortable brilliant off road and luxurious far better built than the x6 I owned previously and far better to drive and it was totally reliable, the problems come when folk buy them third hand and can't afford to service and maintain them even older range rovers are reliable if come with full service history and they still look ace the rolex watch of the car world
Thanks a well produced history of an iconic British marque.
I owned 2 Discos, then a Range Rover, then a Sport HSE, but after 20 years with Land Rover, I moved on. I also got given a 1 year old XK8, but never really got round to using it very much, so moved it on.
Keep producing these videos, and your other channel.
@Mike's Big Mouth not reliable. Sold mine disco 2016 at 52k km. Engine problems, brakes ect.
@Mike's Big Mouth If you want reliability then stay away from JLR they are notoriously unreliable.
Mike's Big Mouth they’re a bag of shit. Chocolate gearbox and engine. Get a proper 4x4. A Toyota Land Cruiser 4.2td.
@@johndoyle4723 You must have had deep pockets then, if you kept with the brand for that long and did not give anything about the repairs. ;)
@@hoedenbesteller I would be more than happy to put up with maintenance to own a masterpiece of a car
Oh ! Thank you it's my favorite go anywhere vehicle since the beginning !
Having an utter hatred for the SUV/crossover market, Range Rover products are about the only ones I have interest in. Very interesting video, thank you!
Simon Parsons lol SUV haters are strange people. So up their own arses.
@@Jabber-ig3iw I don't hate suv's, but I draw the line there, as crossovers are starting to be ridiculous, pointless and generally bland cars that actually do NOT have any advantage over any of the original niches, on the contrary even.
I like American full size SUVs, and the rear wheel drive mid size SUVs from everywhere,. They are like a station wagon but with off-road capabilities generally speaking.
That being said I can't think of one American market SUV I really want or would buy.
You are right. Most SUV's are not very stylish, the Range Rover products are the exception.
@@TheChill001 I could not agree more. The crossovers are like clones of each other, irrespective of what brand they are. They all look the same: boring.
V enjoyable and informative as ever. Remember that Top Gear when the 3 presenters had to buy a cheap 4WD in Bolivia, and Clarksons Range Rover towed everyone else out of the mire.
So this is the reason that Apple doesn’t come with bold new designs for their iMac, MacBooks and iPhone, being afraid of pitchfork wielding mobs of Apple Fans.
Bit stupid. They are at the forefront of bold design
Apple fans are morons, they don't know how to revolt.
Nemo D333
Why revolt?
Apple iOS’ are able to be upgraded for up to 6 years, as opposed to Hemorrhoid OS, which you’re lucky to get 2 years of updates out of it.
At least androids are stable... oh wait.
Secure? Nope
Reliable? Not in my history of owning a Galaxy 4.
Apples keep their value much better, btw.
@@tetchuma 80% of smartphones are Androids so if they weren't reliable that wouldn't be the case, Apple fan boy.
Samsung smartphones are the best, iPhones are boring, featureless, and overpriced for what you get. I can buy a better machine wit that money
I liked the way he explained how BMW and Ford made a difference to the brand but then when Tata took over he started explaining about how the designer made a difference and that Tata's investment was worth it. Give Tata some credit!
He did. Tata bought it and invested millions of dollars. But I think Tata didn't do much control, they let the board of Jaguar Land Rover to have full reign to what they do, because they know better what they are doing. Tata would be just happy to own the two marques to add prestige to their brand.
He gave Tata a plenty of credit. More than Ford and BMW.
@@jannadrielcervo7753 Where exactly? He only mentioned the designer. And made it sound like Tata was lucky to own the brand. Tata saved the brand!
@@piuthemagicman "a plenty of credit" - specify where
@@wilsonpinto6534 Then make your own video explanation, with the specific explanation of Tata's contributions. Go on, make one, I won't even watch it.
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This is not just a car, this is a lifestyle. This is an Eddie Bauer edition. Tortoise-shell interior, super-charged twin cam, European luxury sports utility vehicle, my friend.
It's like im in a chariot looking down on all the minions
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I'm looking for something for my daughter.
I bought a 2015 Evoque, the transmission broke around 38K miles, thank God it was still under warranty, other wise it would have cost me ~$12K to get it fixed. I do love my Evoque and would buy another Range Rover if I have the $.
Ah, the story of my automotive life from 1990 to 2015. You forgot to mention that BMW stripped the company, they stripped out Solihull engineering blocks computer hard drives, kept the mini, as they didn’t know how to build either front wheel drive or 4x4, plus they took the plans for Rovers medium size montego/maestro replacement, the RDX60 which became BMWs 1 series. They only saw JLR as a development place they could poach the British designs
You have no idea what are you talking about, the 1 series is based on the 3 series e90
gameist obviously know more about it than you, as I was actually involved at the time, unlike like. You.
Spot on
This was a great follow up video.
I loved all the prototype stuff 😃
They’ve come a long way baby 😃
JLR Products are not perfect, sure, But im so glad that they are both still around today, Not only that but after test driving them i understand why people live with them, They give so much emotion in driving unlike any other brand, and for most people who dont want to change their car every 3 years, any service costs are worth the little extra you generally pay, If you are in the UK they are not expensive to maintain, just average, meanwhile you will consistently get overcharged on smaller cars, And if you look on the used market the depreciation is high, and thats good if you find a nice one with all the extras and you want to save some cash, Thats how i own a XE S right now.
This guy is articulate with beautiful annunciation and what's more he knows his stuff
1:47 they cut the seen, but I'm sure that was an instant regret.
LOL, I saw that and thought uh-oh, that was not going to end well!
lol!
Hahahaha lol
I'm a tata employee(vistara airlines) in india,they care a lot about employee satisfaction which inturn reflects into the responsibility we should uphold
Always liked Range Rovers but put off by their scores in reliability surveys. The new cars look really well put together though! Also this is a great video, always like the care you put into them. I never knew they had so many owners and great to see the brand survive and thrive
There's a lot of research goes into them!
Another top class video, sir. Always loved the Range Rover. Remember the launch in 1970. It was amazing.
Could you do the Jaguar XJ Series 1 to Series 3? I know you'd do it justice.
Excellent as always.
At some point I have to!
@@BigCar2 Looking forward 👍😀
As a previous Discovery 3 owner and a current Discovery 4 owner, it would be nice to see the Discovery Story. Excellent stories by the way, have kept me entertained during those miserable days of lockdown. 👍
Thank you for the video! Great research! And for including "The Homer!!!"
The only Land Rover I ever owned, for about 4 or 5 years, was a restored road-legal 1952 Series 1 80” in green with a detachable metal roof and detachable door windows. The roof and windows were unrestored. The 2 L petrol engine had a brass tag with Made in Solihull. Unlike later Defenders, it wasn't full-time 4WD, it had the 2WD-4WD lever. What I found amusing was the fuel tank was under the seat. The wipers were hopeless, powered by two windshield-mounted motors similar to old tractors. I sold it to a hunting event company, they wanted it to take guests out shotgun shooting. I got as much as I paid for it and it went to a suitable environment.
I have touched that Blue Range Rover at the start of your video and sat in the 1970 demo chassis @12:00
Wow. Thanks for that enlightening piece of information. I can die happy knowing that. Thank you.
Nice video, very detailed, straight and at least I love it, thanks.
How I have been waiting for this. Second part.
It only took 15 months...
Good work and well done 👍, lots of details in a few minutes.
@@kennethmute4847 Thanks Kenneth!
youre videos are amzing and a "block buster" day for day! go on! and mor with miss Big car (was it with the escort ford?)
Oops! That's an Oldsmobile at 4:44. Great video, keep 'em coming!
confused a cutlass with a (le)sabre... at least it wasn't a Scimitar :-D
Great video ,the L405 is superb 👍😉
02:07 That front reminds me greatly of the front on my Ford Granada Mk2, anyone know the story there?
It was an abandoned 80's London Taxi proposal with parts bin stuff from many British car makers, BL and Ford at least. There is a London Cab documentary covering this from either Big Car or Ruairidh McVeigh :)
@@piuthemagicman it's a metrocab
I do enjoy your very thorough research. Thanks.
Thanks John!
Fantastic video yet again! It would be much appreciated if you could do one on the Jeep Commander. Very interesting car!
Baran Blyat
Or the Wagoneer!
I'd recommend you to check out Marspeed's video on the Commandeer.
Great video as always, but just a small correction - the Range Rover first became a hybrid in late 2014 early 2015 twinned with the 3.0 diesel, it was only when facelifted that it changed to the 2.0 petrol. Land Rover have also very recently announced a plug in hybrid Evoque which uses a 1.5 litre Ingenium petrol.
Thanks for the correction. Glad you like it!
This is the most educative video ever!Thanks Big Car!
Glad you enjoyed it Costi!
Very comprehensive intro to the history of Ranger Rover. Thx!
Glad you liked it!
visited the LR factory recently.
got lost as the site was a nightmare to find my way about.
the security guard laughed when i came out as he did warn me.
Which factory?
@@rafflesnh solihull
That's a sign of them being unprepared for visitors.
They should have Ikea-style arrows along the floors.
Hard to believe they would let you wander around unescorted There are safety considerations if nothing else.
@@longbar2344 I live not far from there
See it very often
My parents used to have a P38 generation 1999 Range Rover Vogue when I was little, with cream leather and black piping around the seats.
I still remember to this day going to the former Worksop recycling centre in it not far from the nearby Tesco when I was about 4 or 5 years old, before it closed down in 2007.
Another fascinating documentary - thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it Paul!
Great - I learnt a LOT. Thank You
Glad you liked it Robert!
As someone who works for a main dealer, I can assure you they are NOT well put-together.
As someone who works on them after you've worked on them, I can't argue with that.
In Asstralia, they are referred to as Wanker Wagons.
@@andrewthomas695 only by the peasants that can't afford one, when they're on their way to their second job. 😂 Salty!
@@gc2234 Actually, sorry to disappoint, but when we were in Mackay, Australia, I was going to buy one. But the Prado LandCruiser was just too good to ignore, and far more reliable. The reliability was the deal breaker as a breakdown can spell disaster in outback Australia. But, hey, if you want to buy an overpriced piece of crap to feel good about yourself, knock yourself out.
@@andrewthomas695 Yeah good idea, stick with the cheap and tacky Toy-ota... you need to make sure you get to your McDonalds night shift on time before your boss fires your ass. 😂 Whereas the CEO of the company drives a Range Rover because hey, who cares if it breaks down 🤷♂️... he can afford it. 💪
Speaking of Tata, I would love to see a story of an Indian manufacturer like Tata or Hindustan Motors!
I'm thinking of doing the Tata Nano. It was supposed to be the car that got India moving, but failed. Why?
@@BigCar2 I think a big part of it was that they marketed it as the world's cheapest car, without realizing that nobody wants to be seen in a car with such downmarket connotations. Plus there were a bunch of manufacturing delays because the factories had to be shifted at the last minute for some reason.
Don't know the full story because I was only a kid then, but I'd love to see your take on the Nano! :)
@@BigCar2 "Wrong Branding" they branded it as cheap car and in India car is status symbol.
"Manufacturing Defects" total three cars were caught on fire, I know that is not lot when your selling thousands of cars but wait for my next point.
"Lazy Management" when these news about fire were coming out they did nothing but watch.
Anyway Tata Nano was sold good number of cars initially, they had about 200,000 pre booking orders.
It was total engineering success, no one could produce car which costs just $2500.
@@tendstofortytwo shifying the factory part was political , the factory was located in a village in west bengal state of india , but the then opposition leader mamta banerjee protested against it since she was trying garner support from the farmers of that area and tata had to eventually shift the whole plant from west bengal to gujarat whose chief Minister was mr Narendra modi , our current prime minister
@@BigCar2 They marketed it as the world's cheapest car, a car that could be purchased for the same price as a good motorbike. However the marketing heads at Tata Motors did not even have an inkling that this strategy would never work. Buying your first car is always a special moment, a goal which you have worked towards day in and day out for years. However, there is no sense of achievement, pride, satisfaction and more importably prestige, if you buy the "cheapest" car in the world and your family and neighbours know about it.
Ratan Tata (former Chairman of Tata) was personally involved in the project ands launched the Nano amidst much media fanfare and hype. However Tata only focused on the extremely low price of the Nano, and not so much on it's other merits such as being spacious enough for 4 adults (despite the small size), having a higher ride height than most other hatchbacks (essential for Indian roads during the monsoon), obviously being safer (just slightly) and more comfortable to drive in heavy traffic than a similarly priced motorbike.
More than expected bookings were received which led to deliveries being delayed for nearly a year or two for most customers, so the hype had already died down.
Conclusion: Bad marketing decision, which focused on the low price. In India Low Price = Poor Quality
Interesting and well presented thanks from Orlando. Nice LEM.
Great summary of RR history, it now needs to add Defender and updated figures to show brand's success in the recent years.
Thank You T/\T/\ for saving Range Rovers ! :D
I'm sure there are many genuine tales of woe about Range Rovers but I can tell you I have had quite a few serious issues with new BMW luxury models. My first RR was a 2012 Westminster 4.4 V8 diesel and from the moment I test drove it I was in love with the brand and I did 100,000 miles in it with only an oil leak and a driver's seat motor spoiling the fun; both were cheaply fixed. I'm now thinking about my third and contemplating the Vogue SE and can't contemplate how I would feel behind the wheel of anything less than this brand.
Excellent update! where do you find the concept drawings? I'm trying to find these for other cars like the BMW 3 Series etc. What designs they ruled out :D
Thanks,, I enjoyed this. Could you make one on the Discovery please?
You should do a video on the Porsche Cayenne!! It literally changed the brand and changed the kind of customer who would buy a Porsche. It would be fun to see the development and evolution.
That's a good angle to approach it. Maybe.
They still wear the same caps, jackets and gloves though.
The Velar had me. Otherwise I wouldn't be seen driving one especially as a daily driver. There's one major fix remaining now, the 'Sluggish Infotainment System' need an entire overhaul.
I heard Doug Demuro tested one and the touchscreen infotainment system failed that very day. Get an XC60.
Dreadful sellers on the used market.
Totally enjoyed this , thankyou !! Would you consider making a Fiat 500 Story? Including the old and new Abarths?
I would. It's a great car, and has an interesting resurgence story. At some point!
Grrat video, thanks for the upload
The P38 diesel a little underpowered? ....that's like saying a Rangie is a little unreliable 😉
I'm honestly surprised more SUVs especially the big ones in the states dont have the roof with the windows in the corners and roof. It looks so cool.
Easily my fav channel right now! Keep up the awesome work!!
Tata took LR&J like a boss. I request you to make video on Tata Motors all cars like Sierra,Sumo,Indica, and even new generation 5 star NCAP cars like Altroz,Nexon,Tiago and also Harrier and new upcoming Gravitas. The Tata is doing great and I believe they deserve a mention on your channel so all the international audience can see how great work they are doing. Thankyou.
I should, but it would require a LOT of research as it isn't something I'm familiar with. But I'd love to do an Indian automotive success story. Any suggestions of sources to short cut my research?
Wonderful information 👍👍 thanks for sharing.
Very comprehensive, thanks for sharing…
Nice to see a video of a British automobile manufacturer that's still trading!
In what way is it still British? Nothing British in it any more except still as unreliable.
@@tunintunin3417 designed here, built in Solihull Birmingham. Couldn't comment on reliability as I can't afford 60k!
@@hoodwinker7932 take a look at the New Defender saga from the boys at TLTruck...
Here you go, one example: ua-cam.com/video/BtdBunnvnq4/v-deo.html
There are several followup videos.
@@tunintunin3417 it's made in Slovakia or somewhere like that 😂. It'll still sell though!
To me, the P38 Range Rover has always looked like a slightly jacked up Metro Cab
But it still looks good, i think it's possibly the best looking one.
Hahaha fact!
Did they not try to make the Metrocab look like a range rover more like?? 🤣😂
Spot on, I remember we thought that when launched.
5:15 The pictures you are showing are of M57s, not M51s.
M51 only came as *25td(optionally tds).
M57 - *25d and *30d
The L322 suffered badly thanks to the low reliability of the BMW parts, things improved once the Ford/jaguar engine came in and they fixed the terrible front end problems (also BMW). The story appears to neglect that Honda had a 20% stake in Landrover and left when BMW came in, apparently they wanted a bigger stake, I wonder how Landrover would have fared with more Honda help?
And now Range Rover is very reliable ? Is much worst than Bmw.
Errm, spinning bottom shells and total bottom end failure doesn't sound like the peak of engineering competence.
@@richardrichard5409 To be fair it seems most major names in the automotive industry have had engine issues. I suspect regulations, poor management and accountants pressuring engineers to make poor choices that allow an engine to get to production that should not have.
Very unreliable cars...the freelancer was a disaster.
Air suspension on the p38 was a problem
ROVERS too suffered engine problems .
These guys better merge with japanese car makers or sour e engines from them...toyota..honda
@@youngriley5326 prior to BMW buying it, Honda owned 20% of Landrover. The big problem with the P38 airsuspension was the computer logic that shut the system done everytime a fault was found. Generally the fault was minor, but the system shut down anyways. There is a way to bypass that shutdown. As for failing motors, almost every car company has a failing motor or transmission these days.
thankyou Mr Big Car.....love your videos. Keep it up
5:09 thats the M57 in that picture the M51 was used in the 325tds 525tds and 725tds
Great video I learned a lot about Land Rover’s history I have a 2020 Velar which my wife and I really enjoy and we are seriously thinking about buying a Range Rover Sport HST or the Supercharged V8 528 HP engine
As a fan of cars, car history and particularly older cars, your channel is car heaven! Discovered you recently and immediately subscribed! Great video as always and I wonder how many caught the photo of the engine at 5.04? Why is there a broom above the engine?!?!?! 😀🤔
My dad bought the range rover evoque and it is great!
My dad is loaded, and i don´t own anything of value..
That's not a proper Range Rover.
Christopher Hallinan it’s not a proper Range Rover. But it is _a_ Range Rover whether we like it or not. I was washing my fatty on the roadside the other day, I don’t have a driveway. A passing Evoque driver engaged me for a full 5 or 10 minutes on the pleasures of ‘owning a Range Rover’. All I could do was agree 😂
@@theworldaccordingtochris4370 Why? Becsause it does not have a stonking big V8 or because you can get one for less than £50k?
@@Hattonbank yep! It's like putting a Rolls Royce badge on a Mini and calling it a Rolls Royce.
Vogue was a better name than Strike A Pose edition
Yet another great video, thanks Big Car. I find the part about Ford owning Jaguar and Land Rover particularly interesting, maybe consider doing a piece on the Premier Automotive Group that was?
I'm sure I'll cover that as part of other car histories.
Great video, as always..
Nice one thank you.
Do you think Land Rover will ever come full circle and bring back a luxury saloon car named Rover?
Never say never!
Nope
Since Land Rover and Jaguar are already in the same group, that's unlikely. Jaguar is already making luxury saloons, if Rover comes back it would be a mainstream car manufacturer, not a luxury brand. Or they could make it a less sporty alternative to Jaguar
@@fireangel1067 I agree. JLR has Jaguar for luxury saloons. Rover might be introduced as an entry level brand. Bring back the Rover Metro I say! Great car!
I will say yes while crossing my fingers and toes
Wow that’s a Lot of owners . The new ones look really good and deserve the sales here’s hoping it’s all upward .
Very satisfying doc. Great stuff as ever. You've covered events involving BMW from around 94 to early 2000s a few times, here, Rover cars, and no doubt one or two BMW models themselves. But might be interesting to cover the story of those 8 or so years from the pov of BMW as a company - Pieschitschreider (sp!!) partly emotional desire to grab Rover in general, not just LR, with ideas to revive old brands like Riley through to the dramatic breakup..
I start to do that a little in this video. It was while researching the question - "why did BMW get rid of Land Rover" which didn't make sense on the surface. This was to me the most interesting part of the video. But I might cover it more if I do a video on a BMW car from around that time.
I did love the evoque cab, hope they make a new one
Interesting, but how was the 300 TDI "Enlarged" from the 200 TDI ?
Keep up the good work! Nice to a channel like yours telling stories about old English cars.
My did just got a red 2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 S 3 weeks ago.
Corvettefan has it broken down yet?
Extended warranty I hope👍
Another brilliant video. :)
Please do one if possible on the escort rs cosworth excellent video by the way
So much of work behind to create this wonderful video..
Thank you, well made video as always.
Thanks Ben!
@@BigCar2 200 Tdi and 300 Tdi are both same capacity.
Great video,thank you for all your time and effort researching and presenting
Your welcome Julian!
Didn't know Land Rover used the same M51D25 engine I have in my E34 in their lineup back then, very intresting!
That was when the Rover Group was owned by BMW, they also put their V8 petrol engine into the RR, later replaced by the Jaguar V8.
Just love these very interesting and informative videos 💖👍😷
Thanks!
I miss the old range rover sport 2006-13
Just buy it it's pretty chea0
First car I ever drove was my aunts Range Rover ('89 model) round a lumpy field, very exciting!
Thank you Sir for this honest video. 👍👍
My pleasure Debjoy!
I was looking at a Cayenne, but the 405 Rangerover really ticks all the boxes 📦
Great video. Just one point to note, the diesel engines that were shared with Peugeot and Citroen were the V6 Diesels found in the Discovery and Range Rover Sport. The TDV8 engine that was in the L322 was only fitted to the Range Rover.
The V6 diesel was a joint Jaguar/Ford/PSA unit. the TDV8 diesel is sourced from the Ford Chihuahua Mexico plant
The 4.4 TDV8 was built in Mexico, the 3.6 TDV8 was built in Fords engine plant in Dagenham.
Nice video, keep them coming! ‘The BMW story’ would be interesting to see. At one point in east Germany a company made unlicensed BMW cars under the ‘EMW’ name with a red and white roundel. Just a suggestion, keep it up!
EMWs were produced at BMW's pre WWII site in Eisenach. So they were true BMWs but were no longer allowed to use the name. .
Awesome vid, loving part 2 of Range Rover history👍I would like Tata make bare essential Range Rover for farmers, an Agriculture Special.
Enjoyed watching the Video as I like the Range Rover Range of Vehicle’s
I heard that one reason why BMW got rid of Land Rover, was because they were afraid it would outsell and outshine the X5.
They sold them cuz they make crap cars and the sales figures are not that good as they should be, only the image remains.
The car guy you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re too broke to afford one hater
It was always BMW's intention to sell it. The X5 was borne from all the good bits of the Range Engine, split tailgate air suspension (they fixed it so it worked). The rest they left out. I've had 3 P-38's and 1 X5 - the X5 (engine notwithstanding as it was the same) was better and far more reliable in very way.but it wasn't a Range and you kind of knew that and that says something about how a Range Rover makes you feel; which is superior - even if it isn't so in reality. There is an air of snobbish country gent/lady about it. Horsey shooting types with a set in the Cotswolds. I live in the Cotswolds and most of those people who are those types actually drive Volvos, Audis ,X5's and Subarus!!!!
@@nelsonclub7722 It's funny, I walked through a Cotswold village recently and every other car parked was a Golf GTi !
@@richiebtime489 Those belong to the Nanny's!!!!