I did not realise there was such a variety of liveries for the Hornby ferry vans. I have a later Hornby R738 which has the steel weight covered over with plastic and the wheels centralised with thin plastic rod. Bought new from a closing down sale of a model shop in Cumbria. Reduced from £2-59 to £1-99. A bargain at the time. No discounting by model shops in those days, all recommended retail price. Thanks for the memories.
Hi Robert great to hear you have one of the later version's I must look out for one myself. Sounds like a great price for the wagon, if only you could get wagons today at £2.59! Thanks again take care. Oscar
Hi Oscar, having had both versions, I couldn't agree more about the improvement in running after Tri-and/Hornby fitted the extra bogie pick ups. I love the look of the Brush Type 2 and it looks great pulling all those vans. The "Through to the continent" script on the BR brown version reminds me of the best bit of graffiti I ever saw - it was about 1970 at Liverpool Street station and there was a poster showing an express train rushing through the countryside; at the top it said "Harwich for the Continent". Underneath someone had written "Bournemouth for the incontinent".
Good morning Roger glad you enjoyed seeing those items running together and that Brush Type 2 is a powerful model as those ferry van create quite a bit of friction. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to share that great observation I love it. Take care. Oscar
I would argue that these are not, and never were, "toy trains". They were well made, expensive, and for their time, accurate models. As was frequently discussed in Model Railway journals of the day, with a little extra work these could be super detailed. :)
Loved it. Enjoyed watch both sets trains go round, I also agree with the lovely shade of blue on the Transfega wagons, then the pantograph really was something to watch touching the catenaries without snagging, well done for that as for the wheel spin, I sure that must happen in real life but never get to hear about it, and it did pull the coaches anyway with no real problems. 😃😃👍👍
I do like the like the fact you had Ten wagons on that train, can' t wait to see more. I have a little lima 31 class and have set some of my curves to deliberately snake to and fro with a dozen small wagons, but can't put anymore wagons on, until my new controller arrives or it just dies after a couple of circuits.. looking forward to more train runs cheers 💚💜💜😃😃
Hi Oscar, I had one of the brown Ferryvans and loved to load it with Airfix soldiers for a surprise attack! The green Brush 2 still looks great and helped increase interest in the real locos - compared to Westerns, Deltics etc they are very much the unsung heroes of BR. We knew them as ‘Peds’ for Pedestrian due to their less than sparkling acceleration on passenger trains! Loved the Class 81 electric with the lighted coaches...my mate used to drive these and told me when he was running around a train he selected ‘Forward’ on the controller before the loco had completely stopped - there was a load bang from inside the loco, a burning smell and all the warning lights came on! He never did that again! Off to the SVR rail cams now to watch the diesel gala! Best wishes Ned
Good evening Ned, I think the Brush Type 2 was one of Tri-ang's important landmark models with some nice variation over the years and they must have made a few! Sounds like one of those expensive mistakes your mate made, I would love to have heard the sound! I bet his face was a picture. Hope you enjoyed the Diesel gala, Take care. Oscar
Noisy it may be, but I’ve always thought the sound of this model is fantastic especially on it’s quarter speed growl. I kind of homage to the growl of the real thing. I think if I’d seen your layout in 1972 when I was seven, I would probably have fainted with happiness. I’m still quite envious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good morning Phil, they defiantly have distinctive sound about them these models. Thanks for watching and taking the time to write this terrific comment. Take care. Oscar
Nice to see the Brush type 2 out. Nice to see the Brush logo and appropriate as the Brush factory in Loughbourgh announced it was closing a few weeks back. A” “One” “A” by the way. The A signifies a powered wheel the 1 signifies it is followed by an unpowered wheel and the last A signifies followed by another powered wheel and on this occasion model follows prototype (powered wheel followed by unpowered wheel followed by powered wheel)
The Ford vans are not far off what I saw as a child going through white city area on the west London line back in 1970 ,Also around Dagenham ,have three of those 31s on including a blue one with white stripes and small yellow panel,very nice Oscar all the best. mark 😊👍🏻
Thanks again Mark, sounds like a nice collection of the Class 31's you have, they were an interesting set of variations they made over the years. Take care. Oscar
Oscar ýou have managed to amaze me again the class 31 is loveley nice ,i personally like the31 as i have 8 of them, your rake of wagons are just wonderful as you say the colours are amazing. The ones in boxes are perfect including the boxes. I am getting more and more impressed with the point and control centre you are making a gŕeat job of all of it. Keep it up mate you must be more than happy with the way its turning out . Well done. Regards Paul osman
Good morning Paul sounds like you have a great collection of class 31's, glad you enjoyed seeing one running with the Ferry Vans. I'm having a lot of fun with the railway as it develops. Thanks again take care. Oscar
Hi Oscar. Great video on what was once a great European rail network using the train ferries 👍🏻 Transfesa is Spanish and still going for Ford parts. The sliding door was for trollies and palettes using a fork truck. Interfrigo was for chilled productions but a different type of wagon than that one but all the same representing chilled by rail. The brown one was for general cargo for Europe. Sad that brush at Loughborough is closing down ☹️ Cheers Stevie 😎
There seem to be so many variations with these models. My 31 is blue with nylon gears and no extra pick-ups and I only have one Ferry Van which is the brown one but a later version with the thin plastic centering spring, a plastic floor over the weight and the square axel silver seal wheels. I thoroughly enjoyed the running today and was very impressed with the length of the ferry van train especially over the elevated section. Great fun seeing two trains pacing one another around the layout. Regards, David.
Good morning David, glad you enjoyed the video. I don't have any of the later versions of the Ferry Van's! I shall have to keep a lookout for some examples. Those models of the Class 31s are amazing and such a long time in the range. Thanks again take care. Oscar
Hello Oscar, nice and interesting video about the Class 31 and the wagons continental thank you. I have an R 738 that I bought in UK in 1978. I admit that it has driven very, very little since .... Have a great week and take good care of yourself. Greetings from France. Philippe
Good morning Philippe great to hear you have one in your collection and with a great history of being bought in the UK and the memories that go with it. Thanks again for taking the time to watch take care. Oscar
Lovely video. The length of the trains in this video really shows the size of your layout. Great to see two trains running together at the end. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
You've just shot my ultimate video - those vans have always been a favourite of mine, and that 31 in that livery variant - I had played with one of these on a cousin's layout on the floor back in the 1970s, but have never had one in that livery myself - although one I do have is green, it looks like a repaint into a duller green with badly lined duck-egg blue and headcode 4C01 - unless of course the painting on the earlier models was that bad and it is a factory paint job!
Good morning John must be great memories you have these model locomotives as a child. Glad you enjoyed seeing the Ferry Vans and the long-running class 31 the one you mention sounds like a repaint I think the colour variations of this model were done with the plastic that it was moulded in with areas/lines picked out with paint. I imagine many have been repainted over the years to suit different modellers needs. Thanks again, take care. Oscar
Hello Oscar. Many thanks for another terrific video. Don't know if I'm remembering correctly but my friend had the 'Brush' loco in a works livery! A really lovely diesel and how fantastic see that great train of ferry vans. It wouldn't fit on my little layout! Terrific stuff.
Hi Oscar, Some really good overhead and track shots. The length of that train looks excellent snaking round the layout. Lit up coaches almost stealing the show but both running together, very nice, enjoy. Gordon
Hi Oscar. It is great to see the ferry vans. The one in railfreight livery was one of the first half dozen wagons I bought new. I am interested to see the bogie arrangement on the early versions as mine have the flexible rod to prevent them pivoting too much. It was probably changed from about 1976 when Hornby started using flexible plastics (e.g. for the milk and Esso tank wagons). In terms of the accuracy of the liveries, Ford definitely used to have branded international van trains of car parts, though the pictures I have seen were from about 1990 and the fans were a different type by then. There is a UA-cam video of a banana train of international vans on a branch line in 1984 (class 31 hauled too), though this was Geest not Fyffes. With regards the Transfers livery it is genuine as there is a grounded body of one on the Strathspey preserved railway in Aviemore. All the best.
Hi glad you enjoyed seeing the wagons and the class 31 I think maybe the plastic rod was a good development for these wagons rubber bands are always so unreliable, since making the video I got some that fit which does improve their running not so much being pulled but there are much better behaved when they are being pushed with them fitted. Thanks again for watching and the great information. Take care. Oscar
Good video Oscar it looks very nice in that green livery which is a rare thing for me to say because I always think that blue looks better on a diesel instead of green. Those ferry vans looked really good I really liked the opening door feature wish that sort of thing was still done today because that would engage more people. From looking online I found that ferry vans carried all sorts of different things and they were used n many different freight trains very regularly also interfrigo and transfesa were real companies and those ferry vans could be seen mainly at locations such as temple mills and Goodmayes yards
I've seen the ferry vans in catalogues but not paid much attention to them before, so really interesting to see them in more detail. The gloss green R357 is one of my favourites, so it was great to see it again - mine growls and sounds the part ! The two trains together at the end was another treat - thanks so much for sharing your wonderful railway with us Oscar.
Although the Fyffes and Ford vans aren't prototype liveries they still look great ,I have two brown early BR versions and a Transfesea ,love your features .
Lovely the “Brush Type 2” was my very first loco , although she dates from 1965 and is without extra pickups . Must admit I’ve overlooked the ferry vans . Very interesting
Good morning Russell, I think these models of the Brush Type 2 are one of the great Tri-ang products. I wonder just how many were sold across the colour variations, sets, solo and mail-order house's over the years, it must be quite a big number. Thanks again. Oscar
Nice video, I didn't know those ferry vans had articulated axles or opening doors so learnt something new. I use to have a Class 31 many years ago but think it must have got discarded in a shed clear out as I've not found it since. I do have an Airfix version now which is a lovely runner with a five pole motor.
Hi Rob, glad you enjoyed the video. I've since got the right size elastic bands to fit the Ferry Vans this improves their performance when pushing them backwards stopping unnecessary pivoting of the Axel/coupling as they push together. The Airfix version of Class 31 sounds like it may have a much-improved mechanism compared to the Tri-ang motor bogie. Thanks again take care. Oscar
Hello Oscar, two excellent long trains to watch today. I really liked the freight, a very impressive performance. I can hardly believe that Bo-Bo could pull six of those illuminated coaches, the friction is so high on them. Superb to watch them both running together on your layout. All the best to you
Good morning Mr Snooze, great to hear you enjoyed seeing these trains in action I think both models put in a pretty good show those Ferry Vans are not that free-running themselves with each wheelset on a pivot I've since tracked down some elastic bands that fit and this defiantly improves there performance being pushed backwards. I was surprised when I tried the electric with the six coaches make a lovely noise. The catalogues interestingly but the coaches at 120mA each in 1970 and in the 71 catalogue at 140mA also the Bo-Bo electric in 1970 shown as 340mA and 71 at 460mA so having them split across may be a good thing. Thanks again, take care. Oscar
I've been looking forward to some composed shots of this layout - excellent stuff. Thank you for another half an hour of model railway fun. All the best to you. Gord
Thanks, Paul it's great to hear you enjoyed seeing the two sets of models running to gather. It's great fun but very easy to lose track of what's happening especially when capturing video at the same time but sound great and is terrific fun, but very rewarding when all goes to plan. Take care. Oscar
Another great video Oscar. Talking about that track made me wonder if you use a Triang track cleaning car. Your track cleaning process might make an interesting video.
Good morning Jules thanks again for watching I've got a video with the track cleaning car I'm currently using in a video shortly. I have had a little trouble using the type of cleaning pad/material I was using on the old layout with it catching on these later style point blades which have very sharp edges compared to the earlier Super 4. Take care Oscar
@@oscarpaisley That’s interesting. Are you using an original pad material or a modern replacement? You’ll know better than I, but I’m sure that cleaning car was made at the time those points were and beyond. I know I’ve come across those cars with the original pad in them, and washing and reversing the pad has got it working like new but that was on 70s Fleischmann points. I’m looking forward to that video.
Hiya Oscar - I like the 73 Catalogue - cos that was the year that I was born!!! Oscar @ 12:20 I have a similar B. R. Diesel & it is a A1A-A1A & NOT AIA!!! @ 23:14 - I thought that MY door bell going for a second!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
Hi Oscar, I'm told that A-I-A means "Active-Inert-Actice" in relation to the drive axles. Apparently, only the first and third axle on each bogey was powered (in real life that is) and the middle axle was there to carry the weight of the loco. I don't know just how true that is, but it's what I was told some years, even decades ago. With regard to those worm wheels on the axles - That's not wear! we had one from brand new, and the worm wheels are made that way, apparently to maximise transfer of power across the entire gear rather than just on the gear tips. In point of fact, quite the opposite of wear, and there to minimise wear. What would Ford need with those wagons? - Easy, to deliver car parts, tools, consumable items, oils, fluids, batteries, domestic requisites like cleaning chemicals, soap, towels, hand cleanser, light bulbs, cleaning cloths and equipment. - All the small, and dare we say "nickable" requisites that any industry might use, either in the manufacturing processes, or in the maintenance of their staff and estate. So even with a bit of 'licence' on the part of Hornby, still a very plausible wagon, and probably correct to some degree, or other. At 18:54 My dad's first Class 31 carried the head code 4C0I. We have a later model like yours which has a different code. Also, there are spigots behind the head codes to locate the roof, and they are different at both ends, so the roof only fits one way round.
Good morning Yorkshire Rose, thanks again for watching and taking the time to share this great information. It very interesting what you say about the gears and the transfer of power and the spigots on the roof section. I've bought these in the past with the roof fitted the wrong way around with spigots missing and the filler cap on the wrong side not with the grab Handels/foot holes, a very nice bit of moulding the whole model. Take care. Oscar
Really enjoyed this video and the stunning Transfesa livery comes across very well. Couldn’t help noticing the trestrol wagon in your catalogue - This has escaped my notice over all the years! Do you have one - its three axle bogies would look awesome negotiating your track work!
Hi thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the video they are a great colour those wagons. I do have a couple of variations of the Trestrol wagon which I really should get around to including in a video! I shall try and do so shortly. The wagon was also used for the base for a number of the Battle Space / NATO range models. Take care. Oscar
I owned two Triang Class 31s. Both really powerful locos. Could pull huge loads. Great runners at low speeds. I could slow them down to a stop in the station very realistically. The Airfix version was also very good. It had the same motor I think.
The Airfix version had a five pole motor that was much smoother in operation but the overall build quality of the model not as good as the Triang version.
A1A means that there is one driven set to two spinning wheels. That is how a six wheeled bogie runs. The real Class 31 has exactly the same drive arrangements.
Great video Oscar igot my class 31 in 1976 it is very noisy worst than your the vans looked great i have only seen the ford vans before well look forward seeing you again Mel nz
Good morning Mel great to hear you have one, your right they can be rather noisy models. I don't think they ever did this model with the ringfeild motor back then I'm sure I've read that any the late 70s tho production mould had become very worn and the decision was made to invest in completely new models for the range. Thanks again take care. Oscar
Another great vid Oscar R357s are the "Ford Cortinas" of Triang ! Basically theres millions of them.. Ive got two RS51s freightmaster sets (one currently for sale on f/b triang 4 sale!) And about 6 boxed ones in various liveries.. Ive been planning to do one of my EM2s with the multi collection bogie ... Great shots on the AL1s wheelspin too ...Just like the real thing! Have you got a vid on converting the coach lighting to LED like you did on the station lamps? Cheers ever Ian
Good morning Ian they must have made a few over the years, that conversion of the EM2 sound like a very interesting project. I've still not got around to converting a coach to LED's yet but it's on the list of things to do. Thanks again take care. Oscar
Hi Oscar, You keep showing all these catalogues. I can remember them if it was yesterday. Where has the time flown to. Another great video. Do you have any of the 6 wheeled LMS box vans. They make a great looking rake. I used several of them to build 6 wheeled coaches many years ago.
Good morning Gerard, great you're enjoying the catalogues I do have a few of the 6 wheeled sausage vans and Milk vans. Time to get them out for a run perhaps. thanks again take care. Oscar
Dear Sir, I wonder if the deteriorated rubber band has released sulphur compounds that may have contributed to the oxidisation of the metal plate. I would not store rubbers with the vans. The plate can be easily be restored with a weak acid (just by leaving the plate immersed in vinegar for the night would do). Cheers from Brazil!
Hi Oscar ,, so you had the lighting in the carriages operating ,, how is this possible unless you have the track as the power and running the engine from the overhead catenary or is there something im missing as in is this a dcc set ,, thanks for the awesome videos you put on youtube again. Cheers from John in Australia.
Good afternoon John thanks again for watching, the coaches are taking their power for the lights from the rails (pick up from one rail, return on the other rail). The Bo Bo electric he is collecting power from the overhead wire and returning to only one of the rails. This enables the power to go the coaches for the lights whilst not affecting the locomotive and power to the locomotive will not affect the lights on the coaches. This could also be used to have a steam locomotive running from the rails and electric locomotive running from the overhead on the same line. It takes advantage of the common return. Both controllers used must have independent windings. Thanks again for watching take care. Oscar
Hi Oscar please could you do a video of the Class 31 pulling the Midland pullman as if the Midland Pullman had Failed and the Class 31 has come to Rescue the Midland pullman
How did you collect two of each of those wagons? Another great video. I remember the Fyftes wagons, but not the others. I would love to get a pair of the Ford Vans. Martin. (Thailand)
Good morning Martin, I had been on the lookout for those wagons for some time. When I had finally got one of each! almost immediately after a second Ford one showed up so it seemed daft not to get it! obversely then you need another one of each of the others... All good fun, take care. Oscar
Hi Oscar. I have done some research. The Freightmaster, (1973 only) has the Fyffes wagon. It says that 14,900 sets were produced, however it also says that 15,000 Fyffes wagons were produced so does that mean 100 seperate Fyffes wagons? Making them rare? I'm just curious
Good morning Joshua I think you’re right the Fyffes and the Ford wagon were only produced for sets from what I’ve read and available that year making them slightly harder to get hold of than the others. Thanks for the information take care. Oscar
The colour of the Transfesa Vans are great, really makes them stand out.
Good morning Alan, it's defiantly a strong colour and that red printing really make them pop out.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
I did not realise there was such a variety of liveries for the Hornby ferry vans. I have a later Hornby R738 which has the steel weight covered over with plastic and the wheels centralised with thin plastic rod. Bought new from a closing down sale of a model shop in Cumbria. Reduced from £2-59 to £1-99. A bargain at the time. No discounting by model shops in those days, all recommended retail price. Thanks for the memories.
Hi Robert great to hear you have one of the later version's I must look out for one myself. Sounds like a great price for the wagon, if only you could get wagons today at £2.59!
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, having had both versions, I couldn't agree more about the improvement in running after Tri-and/Hornby fitted the extra bogie pick ups. I love the look of the Brush Type 2 and it looks great pulling all those vans. The "Through to the continent" script on the BR brown version reminds me of the best bit of graffiti I ever saw - it was about 1970 at Liverpool Street station and there was a poster showing an express train rushing through the countryside; at the top it said "Harwich for the Continent". Underneath someone had written "Bournemouth for the incontinent".
Good morning Roger glad you enjoyed seeing those items running together and that Brush Type 2 is a powerful model as those ferry van create quite a bit of friction. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to share that great observation I love it.
Take care.
Oscar
I would argue that these are not, and never were, "toy trains". They were well made, expensive, and for their time, accurate models. As was frequently discussed in Model Railway journals of the day, with a little extra work these could be super detailed. :)
Loved it. Enjoyed watch both sets trains go round, I also agree with the lovely shade of blue on the Transfega wagons, then the pantograph really was something to watch touching the catenaries without snagging, well done for that as for the wheel spin, I sure that must happen in real life but never get to hear about it, and it did pull the coaches anyway with no real problems. 😃😃👍👍
I do like the like the fact you had Ten wagons on that train, can' t wait to see more. I have a little lima 31 class and have set some of my curves to deliberately snake to and fro with a dozen small wagons, but can't put anymore wagons on, until my new controller arrives or it just dies after a couple of circuits.. looking forward to more train runs cheers 💚💜💜😃😃
Doesn’t she look good pulling all those vans?! 😁 loving the mix of shots, the track level ones are great. 😁👍👊😎
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Take care.
Oscar
Lovely to see older stock running so well 😊
Thank you Angela glad you enjoyed seeing these older items in action on the railway.
Take care.
Oscar
Never thought of adding the extra weight to stop the body shuddering. Cheers for the tip
Hi Oscar, I had one of the brown Ferryvans and loved to load it with Airfix soldiers for a surprise attack!
The green Brush 2 still looks great and helped increase interest in the real locos - compared to Westerns, Deltics etc they are very much the unsung heroes of BR. We knew them as ‘Peds’ for Pedestrian due to their less than sparkling acceleration on passenger trains!
Loved the Class 81 electric with the lighted coaches...my mate used to drive these and told me when he was running around a train he selected ‘Forward’ on the controller before the loco had completely stopped - there was a load bang from inside the loco, a burning smell and all the warning lights came on! He never did that again!
Off to the SVR rail cams now to watch the diesel gala! Best wishes Ned
Good evening Ned, I think the Brush Type 2 was one of Tri-ang's important landmark models with some nice variation over the years and they must have made a few!
Sounds like one of those expensive mistakes your mate made, I would love to have heard the sound! I bet his face was a picture.
Hope you enjoyed the Diesel gala, Take care.
Oscar
Noisy it may be, but I’ve always thought the sound of this model is fantastic especially on it’s quarter speed growl. I kind of homage to the growl of the real thing. I think if I’d seen your layout in 1972 when I was seven, I would probably have fainted with happiness. I’m still quite envious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good morning Phil, they defiantly have distinctive sound about them these models. Thanks for watching and taking the time to write this terrific comment.
Take care.
Oscar
Love the multi-train running! Thanks Oscar
Glad you liked it! thanks for watching its very much appreciated.
Take care.
Oscar
Nice to see the Brush type 2 out. Nice to see the Brush logo and appropriate as the Brush factory in Loughbourgh announced it was closing a few weeks back. A” “One” “A” by the way. The A signifies a powered wheel the 1 signifies it is followed by an unpowered wheel and the last A signifies followed by another powered wheel and on this occasion model follows prototype (powered wheel followed by unpowered wheel followed by powered wheel)
Hi, thanks again for watching and the great information.
Take care.
Oscar
The Ford vans are not far off what I saw as a child going through white city area on the west London line back in 1970 ,Also around Dagenham ,have three of those 31s on including a blue one with white stripes and small yellow panel,very nice Oscar all the best. mark 😊👍🏻
Thanks again Mark, sounds like a nice collection of the Class 31's you have, they were an interesting set of variations they made over the years.
Take care.
Oscar
Oscar ýou have managed to amaze me again the class 31 is loveley nice ,i personally like the31 as i have 8 of them, your rake of wagons are just wonderful as you say the colours are amazing. The ones in boxes are perfect including the boxes. I am getting more and more impressed with the point and control centre you are making a gŕeat job of all of it. Keep it up mate you must be more than happy with the way its turning out . Well done.
Regards Paul osman
Good morning Paul sounds like you have a great collection of class 31's, glad you enjoyed seeing one running with the Ferry Vans. I'm having a lot of fun with the railway as it develops.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar. Great video on what was once a great European rail network using the train ferries 👍🏻 Transfesa is Spanish and still going for Ford parts. The sliding door was for trollies and palettes using a fork truck. Interfrigo was for chilled productions but a different type of wagon than that one but all the same representing chilled by rail. The brown one was for general cargo for Europe. Sad that brush at Loughborough is closing down ☹️ Cheers Stevie 😎
Thanks for watching Stevie and the great information.
Very much appreciated, take care.
Oscar
What a fabulous train. It must have took some doing to find five pairs of Ferry Vans. Superb collection 😁
There seem to be so many variations with these models. My 31 is blue with nylon gears and no extra pick-ups and I only have one Ferry Van which is the brown one but a later version with the thin plastic centering spring, a plastic floor over the weight and the square axel silver seal wheels.
I thoroughly enjoyed the running today and was very impressed with the length of the ferry van train especially over the elevated section. Great fun seeing two trains pacing one another around the layout.
Regards, David.
Good morning David, glad you enjoyed the video. I don't have any of the later versions of the Ferry Van's! I shall have to keep a lookout for some examples. Those models of the Class 31s are amazing and such a long time in the range.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
Hello Oscar, nice and interesting video about the Class 31 and the wagons
continental thank you. I have an R 738 that I bought in UK in 1978. I admit that it has driven very, very little since ....
Have a great week and take good care of yourself.
Greetings from France.
Philippe
Good morning Philippe great to hear you have one in your collection and with a great history of being bought in the UK and the memories that go with it.
Thanks again for taking the time to watch take care.
Oscar
Lovely video. The length of the trains in this video really shows the size of your layout. Great to see two trains running together at the end. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Glad you enjoyed it Roy.
Take care.
Oscar
Lovely video and nicely edited. Those were the days! Thank you Oscar.
Hi, thanks Philip glad you enjoyed it.
Take care.
Oscar
You've just shot my ultimate video - those vans have always been a favourite of mine, and that 31 in that livery variant - I had played with one of these on a cousin's layout on the floor back in the 1970s, but have never had one in that livery myself - although one I do have is green, it looks like a repaint into a duller green with badly lined duck-egg blue and headcode 4C01 - unless of course the painting on the earlier models was that bad and it is a factory paint job!
Good morning John must be great memories you have these model locomotives as a child. Glad you enjoyed seeing the Ferry Vans and the long-running class 31 the one you mention sounds like a repaint I think the colour variations of this model were done with the plastic that it was moulded in with areas/lines picked out with paint. I imagine many have been repainted over the years to suit different modellers needs.
Thanks again, take care.
Oscar
Hello Oscar. Many thanks for another terrific video. Don't know if I'm remembering correctly but my friend had the 'Brush' loco in a works livery! A really lovely diesel and how fantastic see that great train of ferry vans. It wouldn't fit on my little layout! Terrific stuff.
Thanks Mike glad you enjoyed that.
Take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar,
Some really good overhead and track shots. The length of that train looks excellent snaking round the layout. Lit up coaches almost stealing the show but both running together, very nice, enjoy.
Gordon
Thanks, Gordon glad you enjoyed that, I really like those illuminated coaches.
Take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar. It is great to see the ferry vans. The one in railfreight livery was one of the first half dozen wagons I bought new. I am interested to see the bogie arrangement on the early versions as mine have the flexible rod to prevent them pivoting too much. It was probably changed from about 1976 when Hornby started using flexible plastics (e.g. for the milk and Esso tank wagons). In terms of the accuracy of the liveries, Ford definitely used to have branded international van trains of car parts, though the pictures I have seen were from about 1990 and the fans were a different type by then. There is a UA-cam video of a banana train of international vans on a branch line in 1984 (class 31 hauled too), though this was Geest not Fyffes. With regards the Transfers livery it is genuine as there is a grounded body of one on the Strathspey preserved railway in Aviemore. All the best.
Hi glad you enjoyed seeing the wagons and the class 31 I think maybe the plastic rod was a good development for these wagons rubber bands are always so unreliable, since making the video I got some that fit which does improve their running not so much being pulled but there are much better behaved when they are being pushed with them fitted. Thanks again for watching and the great information.
Take care.
Oscar
Good video Oscar it looks very nice in that green livery which is a rare thing for me to say because I always think that blue looks better on a diesel instead of green.
Those ferry vans looked really good I really liked the opening door feature wish that sort of thing was still done today because that would engage more people.
From looking online I found that ferry vans carried all sorts of different things and they were used n many different freight trains very regularly also interfrigo and transfesa were real companies and those ferry vans could be seen mainly at locations such as temple mills and Goodmayes yards
Thanks for watching and the information David, glad you enjoyed seeing these items I think they make a very interesting train.
Take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar yet again a good video nice bit of kit keep well and safe Oscar
Thanks, you too!
Oscar
I've seen the ferry vans in catalogues but not paid much attention to them before, so really interesting to see them in more detail. The gloss green R357 is one of my favourites, so it was great to see it again - mine growls and sounds the part ! The two trains together at the end was another treat - thanks so much for sharing your wonderful railway with us Oscar.
Hi, thanks Peter glad you enjoyed seeing Bothe train running together.
Take care.
Oscar
Although the Fyffes and Ford vans aren't prototype liveries they still look great ,I have two brown early BR versions and a Transfesea ,love your features .
Great to hear you're enjoying these videos. Thanks again for looking in.
Oscar
Lovely the “Brush Type 2” was my very first loco , although she dates from 1965 and is without extra pickups . Must admit I’ve overlooked the ferry vans . Very interesting
Good morning Russell, I think these models of the Brush Type 2 are one of the great Tri-ang products. I wonder just how many were sold across the colour variations, sets, solo and mail-order house's over the years, it must be quite a big number.
Thanks again.
Oscar
Wow, what a sight at the end with both trains pacing each other. The freight vans look terrific, such good colours. Great to watch. 😊👍
Thanks, Pauline glad you like Ferry Vans, definitely a terrific set of colours together.
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Oscar
1:57 That was my Dad´s first train set!
Nice video, I didn't know those ferry vans had articulated axles or opening doors so learnt something new. I use to have a Class 31 many years ago but think it must have got discarded in a shed clear out as I've not found it since. I do have an Airfix version now which is a lovely runner with a five pole motor.
Hi Rob, glad you enjoyed the video. I've since got the right size elastic bands to fit the Ferry Vans this improves their performance when pushing them backwards stopping unnecessary pivoting of the Axel/coupling as they push together. The Airfix version of Class 31 sounds like it may have a much-improved mechanism compared to the Tri-ang motor bogie.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
That long train on your layout looks really good.
Thank you very much!
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Oscar
Hey there, Really exciting watching two lines running simultaneously this video!
Thanks, Jason glad you enjoyed the video.
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Oscar
Great stuff Oscar... Thank You.
Glad you liked it!
Take care.
Oscar
Hello Oscar, two excellent long trains to watch today. I really liked the freight, a very impressive performance. I can hardly believe that Bo-Bo could pull six of those illuminated coaches, the friction is so high on them. Superb to watch them both running together on your layout. All the best to you
Good morning Mr Snooze, great to hear you enjoyed seeing these trains in action I think both models put in a pretty good show those Ferry Vans are not that free-running themselves with each wheelset on a pivot I've since tracked down some elastic bands that fit and this defiantly improves there performance being pushed backwards. I was surprised when I tried the electric with the six coaches make a lovely noise. The catalogues interestingly but the coaches at 120mA each in 1970 and in the 71 catalogue at 140mA also the Bo-Bo electric in 1970 shown as 340mA and 71 at 460mA so having them split across may be a good thing.
Thanks again, take care.
Oscar
I've been looking forward to some composed shots of this layout - excellent stuff. Thank you for another half an hour of model railway fun. All the best to you. Gord
Good morning Gord, great to hear you enjoyed the shots in this video.
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Oscar
Terrific, love the vans and the Class 31. Thanks for the video
Great running session Oscar ..always good to take a look at your layout and those old catalogues .👍
Thanks again David glad you enjoyed the trains in actin and the catalogues.
Take care.
Oscar
great one again Oscar especially the 2 trains running at once.
Thanks, Paul it's great to hear you enjoyed seeing the two sets of models running to gather. It's great fun but very easy to lose track of what's happening especially when capturing video at the same time but sound great and is terrific fun, but very rewarding when all goes to plan.
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Oscar
Another great video Oscar. Talking about that track made me wonder if you use a Triang track cleaning car. Your track cleaning process might make an interesting video.
Good morning Jules thanks again for watching I've got a video with the track cleaning car I'm currently using in a video shortly. I have had a little trouble using the type of cleaning pad/material I was using on the old layout with it catching on these later style point blades which have very sharp edges compared to the earlier Super 4.
Take care
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley That’s interesting. Are you using an original pad material or a modern replacement? You’ll know better than I, but I’m sure that cleaning car was made at the time those points were and beyond. I know I’ve come across those cars with the original pad in them, and washing and reversing the pad has got it working like new but that was on 70s Fleischmann points. I’m looking forward to that video.
Hiya Oscar - I like the 73 Catalogue - cos that was the year that I was born!!! Oscar @ 12:20 I have a similar B. R. Diesel & it is a A1A-A1A & NOT AIA!!! @ 23:14 - I thought that MY door bell going for a second!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
Great video as usual Oscar! Fantastic layout.
Thanks again for watching Stephen it's great you're enjoying the videos.
Take care.
Oscar
Could you do a deconstruction and servicing guide in this please, I’ve got one but it’s a bit of a horrible runner
Hi Oscar,
I'm told that A-I-A means "Active-Inert-Actice" in relation to the drive axles. Apparently, only the first and third axle on each bogey was powered (in real life that is) and the middle axle was there to carry the weight of the loco. I don't know just how true that is, but it's what I was told some years, even decades ago.
With regard to those worm wheels on the axles - That's not wear! we had one from brand new, and the worm wheels are made that way, apparently to maximise transfer of power across the entire gear rather than just on the gear tips. In point of fact, quite the opposite of wear, and there to minimise wear.
What would Ford need with those wagons? - Easy, to deliver car parts, tools, consumable items, oils, fluids, batteries, domestic requisites like cleaning chemicals, soap, towels, hand cleanser, light bulbs, cleaning cloths and equipment. - All the small, and dare we say "nickable" requisites that any industry might use, either in the manufacturing processes, or in the maintenance of their staff and estate. So even with a bit of 'licence' on the part of Hornby, still a very plausible wagon, and probably correct to some degree, or other.
At 18:54 My dad's first Class 31 carried the head code 4C0I. We have a later model like yours which has a different code. Also, there are spigots behind the head codes to locate the roof, and they are different at both ends, so the roof only fits one way round.
Good morning Yorkshire Rose, thanks again for watching and taking the time to share this great information. It very interesting what you say about the gears and the transfer of power and the spigots on the roof section. I've bought these in the past with the roof fitted the wrong way around with spigots missing and the filler cap on the wrong side not with the grab Handels/foot holes, a very nice bit of moulding the whole model.
Take care.
Oscar
Good video 📹 I have the airfix version of the class 31. Must give it a run. Liked the ferry vans.
Thanks, Paul, great to hear you have the Airfix version.
Take care.
Oscar
Really enjoyed this video and the stunning Transfesa livery comes across very well. Couldn’t help noticing the trestrol wagon in your catalogue - This has escaped my notice over all the years! Do you have one - its three axle bogies would look awesome negotiating your track work!
Hi thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the video they are a great colour those wagons. I do have a couple of variations of the Trestrol wagon which I really should get around to including in a video! I shall try and do so shortly. The wagon was also used for the base for a number of the Battle Space / NATO range models.
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Oscar
Yes, please - would love to see one/two!
I owned two Triang Class 31s. Both really powerful locos. Could pull huge loads. Great runners at low speeds. I could slow them down to a stop in the station very realistically. The Airfix version was also very good. It had the same motor I think.
Hi great to hear you had these class 31's, thanks for the information.
Take care.
Oscar
The Airfix version had a five pole motor that was much smoother in operation but the overall build quality of the model not as good as the Triang version.
A1A means that there is one driven set to two spinning wheels. That is how a six wheeled bogie runs. The real Class 31 has exactly the same drive arrangements.
Hi, thanks for the information.
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Oscar
Great video Oscar igot my class 31 in 1976 it is very noisy worst than your the vans looked great i have only seen the ford vans before well look forward seeing you again Mel nz
Good morning Mel great to hear you have one, your right they can be rather noisy models. I don't think they ever did this model with the ringfeild motor back then I'm sure I've read that any the late 70s tho production mould had become very worn and the decision was made to invest in completely new models for the range.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
Another great vid Oscar R357s are the "Ford Cortinas" of Triang ! Basically theres millions of them.. Ive got two RS51s freightmaster sets (one currently for sale on f/b triang 4 sale!) And about 6 boxed ones in various liveries.. Ive been planning to do one of my EM2s with the multi collection bogie ... Great shots on the AL1s wheelspin too ...Just like the real thing! Have you got a vid on converting the coach lighting to LED like you did on the station lamps? Cheers ever Ian
Good morning Ian they must have made a few over the years, that conversion of the EM2 sound like a very interesting project. I've still not got around to converting a coach to LED's yet but it's on the list of things to do.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, You keep showing all these catalogues. I can remember them if it was yesterday. Where has the time flown to. Another great video. Do you have any of the 6 wheeled LMS box vans. They make a great looking rake. I used several of them to build 6 wheeled coaches many years ago.
Good morning Gerard, great you're enjoying the catalogues I do have a few of the 6 wheeled sausage vans and Milk vans. Time to get them out for a run perhaps.
thanks again take care.
Oscar
Dear Sir,
I wonder if the deteriorated rubber band has released sulphur compounds that may have contributed to the oxidisation of the metal plate. I would not store rubbers with the vans.
The plate can be easily be restored with a weak acid (just by leaving the plate immersed in vinegar for the night would do).
Cheers from Brazil!
Good morning Eugenio, thanks for watching and the great information it's very much appreciated.
Take care.
Oscar
Nice one!
Thank you! Cheers!
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Oscar
Hi Oscar ,, so you had the lighting in the carriages operating ,, how is this possible unless you have the track as the power and running the engine from the overhead catenary or is there something im missing as in is this a dcc set ,, thanks for the awesome videos you put on youtube again.
Cheers from John in Australia.
Good afternoon John thanks again for watching, the coaches are taking their power for the lights from the rails (pick up from one rail, return on the other rail). The Bo Bo electric he is collecting power from the overhead wire and returning to only one of the rails. This enables the power to go the coaches for the lights whilst not affecting the locomotive and power to the locomotive will not affect the lights on the coaches. This could also be used to have a steam locomotive running from the rails and electric locomotive running from the overhead on the same line. It takes advantage of the common return. Both controllers used must have independent windings.
Thanks again for watching take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar please could you do a video of the Class 31 pulling the Midland pullman as if the Midland Pullman had Failed and the Class 31 has come to Rescue the Midland pullman
Good morning Lewis thanks for the interesting idea.
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Oscar
@@oscarpaisley will do thanks Oscar you take care too cheers. Lewis 👍
In 1970, the Class 31 could be had with two different head codes, one for Southern/ Western and one for Northern and Eastern.
How did you collect two of each of those wagons? Another great video. I remember the Fyftes wagons, but not the others. I would love to get a pair of the Ford Vans. Martin. (Thailand)
Good morning Martin, I had been on the lookout for those wagons for some time. When I had finally got one of each! almost immediately after a second Ford one showed up so it seemed daft not to get it! obversely then you need another one of each of the others...
All good fun, take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar. I have done some research. The Freightmaster, (1973 only) has the Fyffes wagon. It says that 14,900 sets were produced, however it also says that 15,000 Fyffes wagons were produced so does that mean 100 seperate Fyffes wagons? Making them rare? I'm just curious
Good morning Joshua I think you’re right the Fyffes and the Ford wagon were only produced for sets from what I’ve read and available that year making them slightly harder to get hold of than the others. Thanks for the information take care.
Oscar
I hope you had someone else in the house to answer the door!!
One of your trains has more wheel spin than an old Ford Cortina!!
Nice wagons!! But there again, I’m not really into freight trains!!