@@SamsTrains have you ever considered doing some stuff with some of the old clockwork locos? I've seen plenty of them on ebay for less than 150, might be a cool thing to look at for a video.
As a UK child in the late-60s I always wanted my Dad to fill up at a National filling station - simply because of the iconic blue and yellow logo! That said, it was the larger brands like Shell, BP and Esso that had more promos - world cup & transport coins - and of course the tiger tail! Nice vid as always.
I remember that creeping rust was always threatening my tinplate toys in the 1950s, and eventually I learned to put a small bag of Silica Gel in the box with each one, to draw the moisture out of the air. O Gauge wagons are excellent subjects for superdetailing, painting and weathering, which would really improve the look compared with the sketchy pixellated printing that seems to have become popular. Still, it's always good to see new manufacturers and new ideas in the hobby!
haha - so that's pretty authentic then... not sure whether there was any silicon in the box... maybe that'd be some good feedback for them! Totally -a touch of weathering could really improve these! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sometimes a simple, robust and well working Model is all you need. real functions instead of heaps of endless details. A good Model is not always shown in it's detail or even realism but the feel, the general view, the rigidity and functional detail like the springs. The approach taken here is totally good and, I would even say, needed in 0-gauge. Why? because 0-gauge is perfect for maybe a grandfather and young grandson to play and bring a young audience to the hobby without the older crowds worrying about tiny things to break. The younger fans NEED something they can touch and play with. I like it a lot for what it is
The 'National' logo, with the head of Mercury/Hermes, takes me back to being a kid, in the late 1960's/early 1970's. The nearest petrol garage to me, was a National. Lovely wagon. A rake of them would look superb.
Sam as a child of the sixties I grew up with tinplate friction toys, fire engines,Sante fe diesel ect & they had a charm all of their own , I absolutely love this tank wagon it’s fantastic 👍
You'd be surprised at how much a little compensation helps running. I've got around 24 0-gauge wagons now; the dapol ones have fixed axle boxes, the parkside ones have ones that move (I'm considering adding springs to them later on), and the accurascale HOP24 (HUO hopper) has sprung axle boxes, which really helps it run across slightly less than ideal trackwork (where other wagons, and especially my dapol autocoach derail). As for rusty axles, I've had brand new kits supplied with slightly rusty wheels. It's no issue. A little surprising it doesn't have the horizontal bar connecting the supports at either end, but the omission of the vertical straps on the tank are a little more understandable. It looks a nice tanker, presumably based on the 40T ICI tankers. Might get one in ICI livery to compliment my 4 Berry Wiggins 14T tankers, although it probs doesn't fit in with my western region branch line theme. Hornby Dublo made some, which look way more crude than these, but at least they were in the proper ICI livery. I don't have anything from Darstaed yet. Their mk1s sit too high, unlike the heljan ones which have the wrong roof and body profiles (I'm after the dapol/lionheart ones). I'm also maybe tempted by a darstaed carflat, which looks good.
Hey bro. Lithographed Tinplate goes back to the Nuremberg days. Carette in particular being renowned for their exquisite printing. Generally around the pre WW1 period Lionel in particular convinced the buying public that painting (generally done by dipping with detail painted) was the premium option, lithographed tinplate being only suitable for cheaper sets. (Generally lithography is only suited for large manufacturing runs so to a certain extent this is true). Frank Hornby being greatly influenced by lionel went to probably the most exquisite tinplate painting used by any manufacturer anywhere, relegating the lithographed tinplate (ironically the more realistic) to the cheaper sets. Lionel's Italian styling game changer brought assembly costs down even further by introducing multi layered assembly methods, with detail emphasis clipped on nothing being seen like that in the US or Europe.
You are correct in saying these are not intended to be realistic. They evoke old tinplate, and even Dublo. Check out 'Ace Trains' who started this all off in the '90's. Their Loco's are superb, 3 rail, all die-cast and tinplate. You can mix them up with pre and post war 0 gauge Hornby rolling stock. There are quite a few clubs with large indoor layouts up and down the country.
Fascinating! Never heard of the manufacture but (rust aside) I wonder if that sort of “coarse” style is more suitable for garden railways? Thanks for a great review, I would love to see more from this manufacture. Best
I'm so pleased that you didn't fall in to a comparison of apples with pears on this one - full marks for dodging that and giving the model a fair go (as the Aussies would say). A thoroughly enjoyable review in which your enthusiasm shone out. I'm afraid that I'm just old enough to remember being gifted the occasional tin plate toy which included trains and it is obvious that the technology has taken huge strides since those days. Also well done to Darstaed for bringing a new approach/aesthetic to the market.
Hey Sam. I think that anything that goes down into and climbs back out of that gulley that you have between a couple of your shelves deserves top points! Cheers, Dan.
The 4 wheel tankers can be bought boxed sets of 3 for around £99.00 is not an uncommon price, large selection of liveries, also similar available from Ace trains and Bassett -Lowke ( Corgi/ Hornby owned) They do a nice brake van with working tail lamp.
Great review Sam. Although this being O scale, lots of passenger wagons from Märklin HO are still made of pressed steel plate. Expensive, but the upshots are that they are meant to last forever (good for rough handling by kiddies), solid weight on the tracks hence less prone to derail, and the paint shine just looks realistic on steel. On the other hand, plastic injection molding allows for much greater detail. Metal shortages and costprice also has contributed to the fact that railroad modellers have been accustomed to plastics dominating, specially in the 2 rail DC scheme of things. However, most pre 1980s rolling stock from premium brands such as Märklin are cast iron or pressed steel. Plastic parts were added for the detailed bits and interriors not subject to possible rough handling. The trend in O scale hasn't been all that different from HO on this matter. Personally for me, pressed steel stands for lifetime durability, realistic paint shine, but less detail. Plastics for high-end detailing, more economic pricing, but substancially less durable, prone to cracking and/or breaking details. (The character on the QC card seem to be Kanji but I could be wrong. The entire box and card seem to be in function of communicating 'traditionally made', possibly from Japan).
I have a darstead coach which is made from brass and is fantastic it has interior lights and a brake light .I like the tanker and will probably get one in the future.
Honestly i am so happy with this review to be honest. I like realistic models but for me personally nothing goes above tin and metal that works like the real thing. didn't even know about the company and always a joy to watch your videos.
Very nice model. One day you should try to get your hands on Metal-Trains by Model Power. Those are HO Scale Die-Cast. The only thing that sucks is sometimes the paint chips off. Sam, take over the rest of the house, expand the O Gauge collection and layout!
Would love to see how a tanker like this and a more realistic/scaled proper tanker compare in a rough and tumble contest, maybe from the approach of a parent concerned about what to buy their kids to get them involved with their Dad or Mom's favorite hobby/what's safer to put around the tree at Christmas? Thanks for all the content Sam, you keep us going!
It's a nice tank wagon, and I'm glad you're remembering that you can only buy what you have room for. I've whittled my main line-up down to 20 steamies. I challenge you to do the same. Pick out 20 model steamies you wanna keep for always, and get rid of the rest. If I can do it, so can you. In light of this, Hattons have sent me an email regarding the Dapol Manor models, which will be on the shelves between September and December 2021. I'm going to part exchange my Bachmann Hinton Manor in GWR Green, for the Dapol model in BR Lined Black. Best of all, the Dapol Manors have a firebox glow. I highly recommend you get one. Broome Manor would then have a sister to talk to.
Sprung bogie trucks were widely used in American HO models in the sixties. One of the cheapest were the Crown model wagons made in Hong Kong and selling on a blister pack for under a dollar. Even with the four tiny bronze springs on each bogie. At the higher end the Central Valley line of sprung metal bogies for near two dollars a pair of bogies. Simpler, cheaper Delrin one piece bogies took over eventually as they ran as well. Have quite a few myself.
Great review Sam, personally when I look at rolling stock for my train layout or collection I like whatever is going to work properly and looks great, and is not too expensive if possible, also you should expand /add on your o gauge layout by putting a 2 track yard that they both can hold 4-6 wagons /train cars each, finally did you see the lilpuit offerings and the class 121 price on rails of Sheffield
Hi Sam. Bryan Hardy from Australia.....YES.....Even though "upside down" we do watch your program, love it, good , honest reviews ( as you see it ?) We just stand on our heads to get you in "perspective.? We are in Gauge O...please more O gauge Lo0co reviews. The silent majority...love what you do. Regards Bryan.
I don’t have one of these but have quite a few Darstaed models and think they are good value, just make sure you choose a model with the right wheels for your railway as they make models with either fine or course scale wheels.
Wow actual springs, now that is dedication to strange ideas. Yay coupling on first try! its like connecting USB on first try - takes skill and blind luck to align. Details requirements depend on layout size and occupancy, on small run like Sam has (at least the shelf layout) i would want high detailed everything - it is roughly around eye level and there is not much distracting from low details. However i recognize that lacking details were mostly on undercarriage so it should be fine.
I know I’ve asked this before but it was a yearish ago Do you plan on expanding your layout there’s nothing wrong with it but you’ve had the same layout for so long I’d think you’ve become board of it Don’t feel pressured to change it if you like it or don’t wanna change it I like the layout just it’s kinda confusing me how you haven’t gotten tired of the same layout I guess the different kind of combinations keep you interested like what kind of double headers you can do and what freight to be pulled or pushed I’m not sure what keeps you interested
Great wagon! It has this vintage look from back in the days. And another pro: you can realistically weather it by just spraying it with some vinegar and leaving it outside for a couple of weeks 😁👍
@@SamsTrains Sure you can accelerate the natural rust process by spraying some acid like vinegar on it. Repeat a couple of times while it stands outside so it doesn't dry too fast. After that lubricate the axles and you're good to go! 😀
Looks like an O gauge version of the hornby doublo tankers , tin plate tank die cast tank ends , looks ace for the money, detail wise the only thing missing is brake detail , who is going to look at the underneath when it’s on the rails , would be very interested to see more of this manufactures wagons, looks more like a 9 out of 10
You forgot to mention that the tank wagon is inspired on the Murgatroyd/ICI bogie chlorine wagons of Tri-ang fame (yes they did exist on the prototype...). Being gas tankers their tanks were all-welded, so the "lack of details" is quite prototypical.
00/HO and N are typically the most common types. There is a much wider range of 00/HO stuff, however 00/HO can take up a lot of space, so if you wanted more in a smaller space you could try N gauge, however the range of N isn't as big and just as expensive as 00/HO even though they are smaller in size.
@@joejoe5071 Thank you, I was thinking along the same lines. HO/OO is probably the best option. Besides, N scale probably is more likely to be easily broken. Thanks!
I recommend OO/HO scale because they always seem to be just the right size and price if you don’t have a large amount of space or money that’s probably the best way for you
The scale with the broader choice is OO/HO. You also have, at least for UK trains, a more reliable working than N. Also, you have less constraints of space than O. And, in OO/HO, you have a great choice of narrow gauge railways if you want the advantages of N with a larger scale. I'm modelling OO and italian HO, no serious problems at all. N is really if you need space, but you have the problem of reliability, in my opinion, with UK trains. I model now japanese N scale due to this issue after having started with UK N.
Definitely enjoying that Sam. Perfect robust rolling stock for outside garden railway use. Now if you ask the Ellis Clark cute dog nicely for three more, he might still apply the four qty discount !?! If you don't ask, you don't get as they say.
Tinplate stuff looks pretty neat I think, even if it's not as realistic, I got some old tinplate 1950's Fleischmann and Dublo rolling stock! :) And also, I just noticed a little error tho: 18:19 "three and a half star" and it shows 3 stars. But yeah, no big deal! XD Great video as always! :D
I'm excited for you to extend that O gauge layout around the whole room. 😁 Something about tinplate O that's so genuine and fun, I'd be VERY interested in more O gauge reviews. Also, I would assume the larger flanges are made to allow the truck to run on pre/postwar tubular track.
It’s been a while since the last O gauge items. By the way, there’s a shop called SAT model rail. They sell some O gauge stuff for a fair price. They’re my only local model rail shop and hope they can get through.-Das Mann
you should try to add scenery & more bases to give the track more of a straight surface & maybe a bit of industrial stuff to the o gauge layout to make it look like a pretty realistic o gauge shelf layout! really enjoyed the video!
what is the O gauge version of the 3' test? suspect a rake of them in motion will look fine, especially running as a background train, maybe on a garden layout? nice though
I always think there's an element of charm about tinplate...perhaps more so in O than OO...on account of that alone it's a cracking little model, though not for the rivet counters perhaps...
Sam, Have you considered scaling up some of your 3d print designs into O gauge? I think that or 3d printing bearings for bachmann slotted chassis's should be your next 3d printed project!
i think it could also be partially be a base platform for custom stuff or something? because you can dent tin realistically alot easier if you wanted, and the printing might bring down the overall price because some people might want to paint over it or something? hmm
Interested in Darstaed and their competition Ace to source new tinplate stock to go with my vintage Hornby O gauge trains. Would really like to get a locomotive from them, but what 3 rail locos are still being made in modern O gauge tinplate/coarse scale tend to have DC motors, but my Lionel layout (and the vintage British O gauge) is AC powered. Wonder if there's some sort of rectifier I could put into the circuit to convert the voltage from AC to DC?
The springs on the bogies might actually have a practical purpose in stopping derailments. Protofour models, 00 scale on the correct gauge track, are always sprung as I recall. The handwheels might be supposed to be brass not copper as they would have to be sparkproof on the real thing.
Hi there talking of metal, I have a 1950s 00 Trix 3 rail Britannia locomotive still boxed as a new,, all-metal loco drive with an unopened packet to convert to 2 rail it's very heavy its still wrapped in its original tissue and packing i found it on e/bay years ago it was what started me on locos when I was 12 years old the exact same loco i was over the moon.
This looks a great 0 gauge wagon. The only other all metal wagons available in 0 gauge are either brass kits, Bassett Lowke (pre steampunk) or old 0 gauge model railway wagons, like the original Hornby pre 00 gauge items.
hey sam! i've got am idea for the loco proble. my idea is to make a large loco set on the 00 gauge layout make it 8 tracks and you'll be good to go! the place you could put it at the bottom of gordon' s hill to the left of the courve! just trying to help and hope you have a grest day!
To be honest, although it is a little toy like in it's detail, overall the chassis is pretty good, and the taker body is obviously well made. Replacing the filler at the top, new ladders and a few more details, and it could be a very good model... especially for the price!
Imagine if you could use the tanker for its intended purpose of being a tanker and just transporting different liquids to and from different places. Also, you should eventually fill some of your open wagons (any scale) with stuff like pipes and wood to add another touch of realism.
I don't know what country Darstaed is based in, but in the US, sales tax is usually not included in the listed price (this goes for both physical and digital shopping).
According to my Chinese partner yes it's a Chinese label, it says the name of the company and the stamp on the right is a person's seal. Great vid Sam, love tin plated stuff. :)
@@SamsTrains anytime you have squiggle writing I shall let you know ;"D I also really like it, I think the value of having something that is more realistic in the mechanical aspect is more impressive to me than realistic visual details.
I’m assuming the ex-vat pricing is the same thing that I’m dealing with at work now post Brexit, EU products are now listed ex vat and then tax added when you pay, or if the product / order is over a certain price you pay the VAT to the delivery courier along with an admin fee. All part of the new world we’re in and will catch some people out if they’re not expecting it I’m sure! Darstaed actually talk about this a little on their website, only their 3 rail products are built in the UK it seems, the rest is EU.
By the sound of it, it seems like this is more akin to a Lionel or other American O gauge piece of rolling stock. They're not 100% accurate, but great representations of the real thing. American 3-rail O-gauge also comes in two sizes, one is more scale dimensions while still maintaining the ability to round fair-sized curves and work with the other size, which is known as "Traditional', 'postwar-esque', or 'semi-scale', which is squished in dimensions to run on tighter curves (as tight as 27 inches in diameter, but 31-inch diameter curve limits are more common) and overall has less finer detail
Which "O" scale is it??? 1/43.5 ;1/45; or 1/48??? With some finer brass wire parts ( ladder, strainers, etc) and a new coat of paint on the Tank " Petrol Black", it would look good on a larger scale layout...especially in a string of 5 or 10! Also the general design fits 1940s-60s QGR tank car On3.5 with Regauged Arch Bar bogies; no strainers or end posts, and side lever type brakes. Great Revue, more like this in the future. AV Brisbane Australia
I'd guess 1/48, that seems to be the standard in the UK, could be wrong! Sure, a bit of repainting could really improve these! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Oh well I would Still buy some of their O gauge rolling stock even if I don't have an O gauge Layout Having O gauge Locomotives and rolling stock is a good start because once you have the items to run you will only need to get the track after that you will have the beginning of a Layout if that made any sense
Sheet metal doesn't have to be course grade. I've got a set of Marklin-Trix Ho coaches from 15 years ago that are metal. You can't tell until you touch them. Having said that they are not super detailed like injection moulding. Are Darstaed made in Korea? That's where some of the very expensive all braised brass models come from.
Hey, I would just like to ask if you have any recommendations on how to best get started on this sort of hobby as a child who doesn’t have much money. Thanks in advance. Btw love your vids, I just subbed.
Hi. A good rummage around eBay is a good place to begin for starting off without breaking the bank. Try and get a decent train set, with all parts present and at least one set of points. Don’t go for a large fancy loco, a simple shunter or tank engine will be just as much fun without so many things to go wrong and cause frustration. After that… the sky’s the limit! Enjoy…
Is that website an American one? Because in America we don't add the state tax to the listed price of an item like the UK adds in the VAT to the listed price before purchase.
Being a 'casual' modeler, i like the wagon its nice being tin and all
same thing here, this seems to be the kind of quality I like most. Less detailed, but good looking, durable, and it performs fairly well.
Yeah me too - there's definitely worth in models like this! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains have you ever considered doing some stuff with some of the old clockwork locos? I've seen plenty of them on ebay for less than 150, might be a cool thing to look at for a video.
As a UK child in the late-60s I always wanted my Dad to fill up at a National filling station - simply because of the iconic blue and yellow logo!
That said, it was the larger brands like Shell, BP and Esso that had more promos - world cup & transport coins - and of course the tiger tail!
Nice vid as always.
haha fantastic - I was a kid like that too!! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
National used Smurfs in adverts in the 70s and you could get Smurf figurines from the petrol stations.
I remember that creeping rust was always threatening my tinplate toys in the 1950s, and eventually I learned to put a small bag of Silica Gel in the box with each one, to draw the moisture out of the air. O Gauge wagons are excellent subjects for superdetailing, painting and weathering, which would really improve the look compared with the sketchy pixellated printing that seems to have become popular. Still, it's always good to see new manufacturers and new ideas in the hobby!
haha - so that's pretty authentic then... not sure whether there was any silicon in the box... maybe that'd be some good feedback for them! Totally -a touch of weathering could really improve these!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains 😺!
James when he sees a tanker when it’s not tar: *ok*
James when he sees a tar
tanker: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
haha!! xD
Also James when he realizes it’s still a truck: *EW* >:(
Sometimes a simple, robust and well working Model is all you need. real functions instead of heaps of endless details. A good Model is not always shown in it's detail or even realism but the feel, the general view, the rigidity and functional detail like the springs. The approach taken here is totally good and, I would even say, needed in 0-gauge. Why? because 0-gauge is perfect for maybe a grandfather and young grandson to play and bring a young audience to the hobby without the older crowds worrying about tiny things to break. The younger fans NEED something they can touch and play with.
I like it a lot for what it is
When I was in HO Scale years ago, I had some roling stock that had metal sprung trucks. They really help the car track better on rough trackage.
Wow! Don't think I've ever come across that in OO before!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I had that too!
I suspect on this model, its cheaper to use real springs than it is to mould or cast them. 👍
I'm an American railfan who knows very little about UK railways...
And yet I still end up watching all your videos.
Great video, Sam!
The 'National' logo, with the head of Mercury/Hermes, takes me back to being a kid, in the late 1960's/early 1970's. The nearest petrol garage to me, was a National.
Lovely wagon. A rake of them would look superb.
Sam as a child of the sixties I grew up with tinplate friction toys, fire engines,Sante fe diesel ect & they had a charm all of their own , I absolutely love this tank wagon it’s fantastic 👍
As James the Red Engine himself certainly would basically say: SPLENDID!
You'd be surprised at how much a little compensation helps running. I've got around 24 0-gauge wagons now; the dapol ones have fixed axle boxes, the parkside ones have ones that move (I'm considering adding springs to them later on), and the accurascale HOP24 (HUO hopper) has sprung axle boxes, which really helps it run across slightly less than ideal trackwork (where other wagons, and especially my dapol autocoach derail). As for rusty axles, I've had brand new kits supplied with slightly rusty wheels. It's no issue. A little surprising it doesn't have the horizontal bar connecting the supports at either end, but the omission of the vertical straps on the tank are a little more understandable.
It looks a nice tanker, presumably based on the 40T ICI tankers. Might get one in ICI livery to compliment my 4 Berry Wiggins 14T tankers, although it probs doesn't fit in with my western region branch line theme.
Hornby Dublo made some, which look way more crude than these, but at least they were in the proper ICI livery.
I don't have anything from Darstaed yet. Their mk1s sit too high, unlike the heljan ones which have the wrong roof and body profiles (I'm after the dapol/lionheart ones). I'm also maybe tempted by a darstaed carflat, which looks good.
Hey bro. Lithographed Tinplate goes back to the Nuremberg days. Carette in particular being renowned for their exquisite printing. Generally around the pre WW1 period Lionel in particular convinced the buying public that painting (generally done by dipping with detail painted) was the premium option, lithographed tinplate being only suitable for cheaper sets. (Generally lithography is only suited for large manufacturing runs so to a certain extent this is true). Frank Hornby being greatly influenced by lionel went to probably the most exquisite tinplate painting used by any manufacturer anywhere, relegating the lithographed tinplate (ironically the more realistic) to the cheaper sets. Lionel's Italian styling game changer brought assembly costs down even further by introducing multi layered assembly methods, with detail emphasis clipped on nothing being seen like that in the US or Europe.
You are correct in saying these are not intended to be realistic. They evoke old tinplate, and even Dublo. Check out 'Ace Trains' who started this all off in the '90's. Their Loco's are superb, 3 rail, all die-cast and tinplate. You can mix them up with pre and post war 0 gauge Hornby rolling stock. There are quite a few clubs with large indoor layouts up and down the country.
Fascinating!
Never heard of the manufacture but (rust aside) I wonder if that sort of “coarse” style is more suitable for garden railways?
Thanks for a great review, I would love to see more from this manufacture.
Best
I'm so pleased that you didn't fall in to a comparison of apples with pears on this one - full marks for dodging that and giving the model a fair go (as the Aussies would say). A thoroughly enjoyable review in which your enthusiasm shone out.
I'm afraid that I'm just old enough to remember being gifted the occasional tin plate toy which included trains and it is obvious that the technology has taken huge strides since those days. Also well done to Darstaed for bringing a new approach/aesthetic to the market.
I very much I understand on the direction they took while doing the tanker. Like an upper class toy. I like this
Me too!! It's a lovely breath of different air isn't it?
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
GREAT WORK WITH THIS OFFICIAL VIDEO REVIEW AS ALWAYS FOR SURE!
Hey Sam. I think that anything that goes down into and climbs back out of that gulley that you have between a couple of your shelves deserves top points! Cheers, Dan.
The 4 wheel tankers can be bought boxed sets of 3 for around £99.00 is not an uncommon price, large selection of liveries, also similar available from Ace trains and Bassett -Lowke ( Corgi/ Hornby owned) They do a nice brake van with working tail lamp.
Great review Sam. Although this being O scale, lots of passenger wagons from Märklin HO are still made of pressed steel plate. Expensive, but the upshots are that they are meant to last forever (good for rough handling by kiddies), solid weight on the tracks hence less prone to derail, and the paint shine just looks realistic on steel.
On the other hand, plastic injection molding allows for much greater detail. Metal shortages and costprice also has contributed to the fact that railroad modellers have been accustomed to plastics dominating, specially in the 2 rail DC scheme of things. However, most pre 1980s rolling stock from premium brands such as Märklin are cast iron or pressed steel. Plastic parts were added for the detailed bits and interriors not subject to possible rough handling. The trend in O scale hasn't been all that different from HO on this matter.
Personally for me, pressed steel stands for lifetime durability, realistic paint shine, but less detail. Plastics for high-end detailing, more economic pricing, but substancially less durable, prone to cracking and/or breaking details.
(The character on the QC card seem to be Kanji but I could be wrong. The entire box and card seem to be in function of communicating 'traditionally made', possibly from Japan).
"The price did not include tax."
American viewers: First time?
It does look nice and I love how the springs move when you push down on the wagon nice little detail
I have a darstead coach which is made from brass and is fantastic it has interior lights and a brake light .I like the tanker and will probably get one in the future.
Honestly i am so happy with this review to be honest. I like realistic models but for me personally nothing goes above tin and metal that works like the real thing. didn't even know about the company and always a joy to watch your videos.
Very nice model. One day you should try to get your hands on Metal-Trains by Model Power. Those are HO Scale Die-Cast. The only thing that sucks is sometimes the paint chips off.
Sam, take over the rest of the house, expand the O Gauge collection and layout!
Would love to see how a tanker like this and a more realistic/scaled proper tanker compare in a rough and tumble contest, maybe from the approach of a parent concerned about what to buy their kids to get them involved with their Dad or Mom's favorite hobby/what's safer to put around the tree at Christmas? Thanks for all the content Sam, you keep us going!
It's a nice tank wagon, and I'm glad you're remembering that you can only buy what you have room for. I've whittled my main line-up down to 20 steamies. I challenge you to do the same. Pick out 20 model steamies you wanna keep for always, and get rid of the rest. If I can do it, so can you. In light of this, Hattons have sent me an email regarding the Dapol Manor models, which will be on the shelves between September and December 2021. I'm going to part exchange my Bachmann Hinton Manor in GWR Green, for the Dapol model in BR Lined Black. Best of all, the Dapol Manors have a firebox glow. I highly recommend you get one. Broome Manor would then have a sister to talk to.
Sprung bogie trucks were widely used in American HO models in the sixties. One of the cheapest were the Crown model wagons made in Hong Kong and selling on a blister pack for under a dollar. Even with the four tiny bronze springs on each bogie.
At the higher end the Central Valley line of sprung metal bogies for near two dollars a pair of bogies.
Simpler, cheaper Delrin one piece bogies took over eventually as they ran as well.
Have quite a few myself.
Great review Sam, personally when I look at rolling stock for my train layout or collection I like whatever is going to work properly and looks great, and is not too expensive if possible, also you should expand /add on your o gauge layout by putting a 2 track yard that they both can hold 4-6 wagons /train cars each, finally did you see the lilpuit offerings and the class 121 price on rails of Sheffield
Hi Sam. Bryan Hardy from Australia.....YES.....Even though "upside down" we do watch your program, love it, good , honest reviews ( as you see it ?) We just stand on our heads to get you in "perspective.?
We are in Gauge O...please more O gauge Lo0co reviews. The silent majority...love what you do.
Regards
Bryan.
I don’t have one of these but have quite a few Darstaed models and think they are good value, just make sure you choose a model with the right wheels for your railway as they make models with either fine or course scale wheels.
Wow actual springs, now that is dedication to strange ideas.
Yay coupling on first try! its like connecting USB on first try - takes skill and blind luck to align.
Details requirements depend on layout size and occupancy, on small run like Sam has (at least the shelf layout) i would want high detailed everything - it is roughly around eye level and there is not much distracting from low details. However i recognize that lacking details were mostly on undercarriage so it should be fine.
I know I’ve asked this before but it was a yearish ago
Do you plan on expanding your layout there’s nothing wrong with it but you’ve had the same layout for so long I’d think you’ve become board of it
Don’t feel pressured to change it if you like it or don’t wanna change it I like the layout just it’s kinda confusing me how you haven’t gotten tired of the same layout
I guess the different kind of combinations keep you interested like what kind of double headers you can do and what freight to be pulled or pushed I’m not sure what keeps you interested
I may do one day, but there's no room for the O gauge one to expand any further sadly :(
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@@SamsTrains I was actually talking about your HO/OO scale layout lol
Lol
so cool that it has working suspension
Great wagon! It has this vintage look from back in the days. And another pro: you can realistically weather it by just spraying it with some vinegar and leaving it outside for a couple of weeks 😁👍
Thanks Frank, it certainly does - and is that true?! If you're joking, I will find out when I try it ;)
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@@SamsTrains Sure you can accelerate the natural rust process by spraying some acid like vinegar on it. Repeat a couple of times while it stands outside so it doesn't dry too fast. After that lubricate the axles and you're good to go! 😀
Looks like an O gauge version of the hornby doublo tankers , tin plate tank die cast tank ends , looks ace for the money, detail wise the only thing missing is brake detail , who is going to look at the underneath when it’s on the rails , would be very interested to see more of this manufactures wagons, looks more like a 9 out of 10
You forgot to mention that the tank wagon is inspired on the Murgatroyd/ICI bogie chlorine wagons of Tri-ang fame (yes they did exist on the prototype...). Being gas tankers their tanks were all-welded, so the "lack of details" is quite prototypical.
It's been a while since we have seen a o gauge review and it feels good
Glad to hear that - It felt good to be on O gauge again! :D
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Hey Sam,
I am thinking of starting model railroading and am wondering what is the best scale?
Thanks and Cheers!
Noah :D
00/HO and N are typically the most common types. There is a much wider range of 00/HO stuff, however 00/HO can take up a lot of space, so if you wanted more in a smaller space you could try N gauge, however the range of N isn't as big and just as expensive as 00/HO even though they are smaller in size.
@@joejoe5071 Thank you,
I was thinking along the same lines. HO/OO is probably the best option. Besides, N scale probably is more likely to be easily broken.
Thanks!
I recommend OO/HO scale because they always seem to be just the right size and price if you don’t have a large amount of space or money that’s probably the best way for you
The scale with the broader choice is OO/HO. You also have, at least for UK trains, a more reliable working than N. Also, you have less constraints of space than O. And, in OO/HO, you have a great choice of narrow gauge railways if you want the advantages of N with a larger scale. I'm modelling OO and italian HO, no serious problems at all.
N is really if you need space, but you have the problem of reliability, in my opinion, with UK trains. I model now japanese N scale due to this issue after having started with UK N.
H0 is the best
I can see this running around a nice little garden railway a rake of them would be great. Good value. Thanks Sam. Regards Eddy xx
Definitely enjoying that Sam. Perfect robust rolling stock for outside garden railway use. Now if you ask the Ellis Clark cute dog nicely for three more, he might still apply the four qty discount !?!
If you don't ask, you don't get as they say.
That was a really cool review! I love your O Gauge stuff! Nice tanker too for a great price!
Tinplate stuff looks pretty neat I think, even if it's not as realistic, I got some old tinplate 1950's Fleischmann and Dublo rolling stock! :) And also, I just noticed a little error tho: 18:19 "three and a half star" and it shows 3 stars. But yeah, no big deal! XD Great video as always! :D
EXCELLENT WORK!
I'm excited for you to extend that O gauge layout around the whole room. 😁
Something about tinplate O that's so genuine and fun, I'd be VERY interested in more O gauge reviews.
Also, I would assume the larger flanges are made to allow the truck to run on pre/postwar tubular track.
haha if only - I just wouldn't have the room to do that sadly! You're right though - it is genuinely so much fun!
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It’s been a while since the last O gauge items. By the way, there’s a shop called SAT model rail. They sell some O gauge stuff for a fair price. They’re my only local model rail shop and hope they can get through.-Das Mann
It certainly has! And sounds great Das, I'll look that up - thank you! :D
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you should try to add scenery & more bases to give the track more of a straight surface & maybe a bit of industrial stuff to the o gauge layout to make it look like a pretty realistic o gauge shelf layout! really enjoyed the video!
You should have your 11xx pull all the wagons you got so far for o gauge! That would be a nice collection video!
I really enjoyed this review; yes - please do feature more Darstaed models.
what is the O gauge version of the 3' test? suspect a rake of them in motion will look fine, especially running as a background train, maybe on a garden layout?
nice though
Thanks Dale - yes a rake would look fantastic no doubt! :D
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Awesome video! Great job! I like that Tanker! 7:20 Not alot of them can go up and down like that!
That might be something to watch for at the trainshow in a couple weeks.
Ooh nice - is there one!? :D
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@@SamsTrains hope so for the tanker. I plan on at acquiring at least a few OO scale stuff in the sea of American & German equipment.
I always think there's an element of charm about tinplate...perhaps more so in O than OO...on account of that alone it's a cracking little model, though not for the rivet counters perhaps...
I really like the packaging
No unnecessary printing, saving money that gets passed on to the consumer
Awesome video today Sam beautiful tar tanker and by the way I looked on Facebook and it says there was a live stream on Sunday just gone
Sam,
Have you considered scaling up some of your 3d print designs into O gauge? I think that or 3d printing bearings for bachmann slotted chassis's should be your next 3d printed project!
That or some bridges for the O-gauge layout. It terrifies me everytime a train crosses the gaps!
i think it could also be partially be a base platform for custom stuff or something? because you can dent tin realistically alot easier if you wanted, and the printing might bring down the overall price because some people might want to paint over it or something? hmm
Looking on the Darstaed website they also do locomotives, although as of typing this they are all sold out. Great review.
Looks to be very sturdy. Made to last from father to son! Like a scaled-up Märklin wagon. Great play value!
Interested in Darstaed and their competition Ace to source new tinplate stock to go with my vintage Hornby O gauge trains.
Would really like to get a locomotive from them, but what 3 rail locos are still being made in modern O gauge tinplate/coarse scale tend to have DC motors, but my Lionel layout (and the vintage British O gauge) is AC powered.
Wonder if there's some sort of rectifier I could put into the circuit to convert the voltage from AC to DC?
The springs on the bogies might actually have a practical purpose in stopping derailments. Protofour models, 00 scale on the correct gauge track, are always sprung as I recall.
The handwheels might be supposed to be brass not copper as they would have to be sparkproof on the real thing.
Finally another O Gauge review!
Sad. I was expecting a history segment of the legendary tanker😂
haha apologies... I thought people would die of boredom! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
tin plate is basically sheet metal
they have moulds that stamps the metal into shape (I work at a tin plate truck model factory fyi 😉)
Hi there talking of metal, I have a 1950s 00 Trix 3 rail Britannia locomotive still boxed as a new,, all-metal loco drive with an unopened packet to convert to 2 rail it's very heavy its still wrapped in its original tissue and packing i found it on e/bay years ago it was what started me on locos when I was 12 years old the exact same loco i was over the moon.
This looks a great 0 gauge wagon. The only other all metal wagons available in 0 gauge are either brass kits, Bassett Lowke (pre steampunk) or old 0 gauge model railway wagons, like the original Hornby pre 00 gauge items.
hey sam! i've got am idea for the loco proble. my idea is to make a large loco set on the 00 gauge layout make it 8 tracks and you'll be good to go! the place you could put it at the bottom of gordon' s hill to the left of the courve! just trying to help and hope you have a grest day!
To be honest, although it is a little toy like in it's detail, overall the chassis is pretty good, and the taker body is obviously well made. Replacing the filler at the top, new ladders and a few more details, and it could be a very good model... especially for the price!
Interesting bit of kit Sam
Looks ok, I'm sure with a bit of weathering and a few mods to some of the details it would be just fine
Nick
Imagine if you could use the tanker for its intended purpose of being a tanker and just transporting different liquids to and from different places. Also, you should eventually fill some of your open wagons (any scale) with stuff like pipes and wood to add another touch of realism.
I don't know what country Darstaed is based in, but in the US, sales tax is usually not included in the listed price (this goes for both physical and digital shopping).
I think in Denmark (and the whole EU???), taxes must be included in listed prices. Even for B2B, who can have the taxes refunded.
They look like 50z or possibly 60s tin plate , but it is a good brand name, hopefully, they keep up the great work.
According to my Chinese partner yes it's a Chinese label, it says the name of the company and the stamp on the right is a person's seal. Great vid Sam, love tin plated stuff. :)
Fascinating - thanks very much for letting me know this! I can say that I love it too now! :D
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@@SamsTrains anytime you have squiggle writing I shall let you know ;"D I also really like it, I think the value of having something that is more realistic in the mechanical aspect is more impressive to me than realistic visual details.
I kinda wanna see you review an O gauge loco that has a working inside valve gear. I really want to see it in action!
My favorite wagons are the white hoppers and some cn or csx box cars
I’m assuming the ex-vat pricing is the same thing that I’m dealing with at work now post Brexit, EU products are now listed ex vat and then tax added when you pay, or if the product / order is over a certain price you pay the VAT to the delivery courier along with an admin fee. All part of the new world we’re in and will catch some people out if they’re not expecting it I’m sure!
Darstaed actually talk about this a little on their website, only their 3 rail products are built in the UK it seems, the rest is EU.
That model looks so good
By the sound of it, it seems like this is more akin to a Lionel or other American O gauge piece of rolling stock. They're not 100% accurate, but great representations of the real thing. American 3-rail O-gauge also comes in two sizes, one is more scale dimensions while still maintaining the ability to round fair-sized curves and work with the other size, which is known as "Traditional', 'postwar-esque', or 'semi-scale', which is squished in dimensions to run on tighter curves (as tight as 27 inches in diameter, but 31-inch diameter curve limits are more common) and overall has less finer detail
Nice 8 wheeled tanker! Looks nice when coupled up to the 08 Shunter! 👍
These used to be French and used here in the 30s. Darstaed also do crocodile hs Sam if interested of course
Ooh nice, all metal too. Great video
Hello there everybody Sam's Trains here, welcome back to the railway
the phrase that cured my depression
Which "O" scale is it??? 1/43.5 ;1/45; or 1/48???
With some finer brass wire parts ( ladder, strainers, etc) and a new coat of paint on the Tank " Petrol Black", it would look good on a larger scale layout...especially in a string of 5 or 10! Also the general design fits 1940s-60s QGR tank car On3.5 with Regauged Arch Bar bogies; no strainers or end posts, and side lever type brakes.
Great Revue, more like this in the future.
AV Brisbane Australia
I'd guess 1/48, that seems to be the standard in the UK, could be wrong! Sure, a bit of repainting could really improve these!
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It's tin plate. It's sized traditionally, that's it
I love it. I wish they made one in OO gage
I wonder if Darstaed make 00 gauge models if so I would like some of their rolling stock
I'd be interested too! I don't think they do though!
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@@SamsTrains Oh well I would Still buy some of their O gauge rolling stock even if I don't have an O gauge Layout Having O gauge Locomotives and rolling stock is a good start because once you have the items to run you will only need to get the track after that you will have the beginning of a Layout if that made any sense
El Cheap- O (not El Cheap- OO) must love this! Definitely a nice wagon and a bargain!
Sheet metal doesn't have to be course grade. I've got a set of Marklin-Trix Ho coaches from 15 years ago that are metal. You can't tell until you touch them. Having said that they are not super detailed like injection moulding.
Are Darstaed made in Korea? That's where some of the very expensive all braised brass models come from.
I might get one of these tankers. Great video sam
I can recommend it if it's something that appeals to you - lovely things!
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Hey Sam I’m not usually one for O gauge but I still enjoy it maybe one day I’ll get some for myself
That's good to hear -yeah never say never! :D
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This is exactly what I want from rolling stock. Do they make any American stuff?
I met the company manager at the train show in calgary Canada in 2018 I bought 24 of them at there booth
Hey,
I would just like to ask if you have any recommendations on how to best get started on this sort of hobby as a child who doesn’t have much money.
Thanks in advance.
Btw love your vids, I just subbed.
Hi. A good rummage around eBay is a good place to begin for starting off without breaking the bank. Try and get a decent train set, with all parts present and at least one set of points. Don’t go for a large fancy loco, a simple shunter or tank engine will be just as much fun without so many things to go wrong and cause frustration. After that… the sky’s the limit! Enjoy…
This is why I like o gauge you get so much more for your money
Good video I not into O gage but if I was I would buy some of these wagons.
0 guage yinplate is a massive part of the hobby in the USA with some of the Loco's costing an arm and a leg. I think Lionel have a good range?
A very nice basic wagon Sam. Go on, treat yourself to a set of four! Best, Pete.
Have you though about making a full around the room O loop or is this the limit right now?
Is that website an American one? Because in America we don't add the state tax to the listed price of an item like the UK adds in the VAT to the listed price before purchase.
Heard that O gauge Dapol Egg Vans are next review ....? Can't wait.
haha don't say that!! ;D
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Hi Sam, Yes it gets the thumbs up for me, (should have got the 4) do like the O gauge, All the Best Brian 🤗