I feel that Byzantine history, like War of the Roses or the Thirty Years War are for people with a better memory for names than what I posses. Still interesting.
I’ve read Dan Jones’s book on the Wars of the Roses and watched a few dummies guides and I still barely understand the various Plantagenet family issues. I’ve got a quarter the way through Peter Wilson’s book on 30 years war and couldn’t see how it all fits together. I’ve listened to most of the 200 part history of Byzantium podcasts and it all blurs into one. But they appeal to me as an empire that we have forgotten about that was so central.
I had a delightful visit to Entoyment gaming centre in Poole. One Byzantine Army purchased. I did not bother with the Koursors (lancers), or the horse archers, but I did get one box each of: Cataphracts, auxiliaries (Archers), Spearmen, Turcopoles, and the resin Emperor command figure. I also got the resin infantry command resin blister but I don’t really need them in Saga. I don’t recall seeing the Varangian guard but I plan a relatively vanilla army (Saga:Age of Crusades). 6 points 1 Warlord (0 points) 3 points Hearthguard (Cataphracti) (2 units of 6) 3 points of Levy (36 models broken down into four units of 9. Two units armed with bows and two with spears. 49 figures, nice models, and an interesting battleboard. I would love to field the Turcopoles, and the Gripping Beast Nafatan but that would take me to eight points. Nice comment about which shields to use for the spearmen. Looking at the photo on the auxiliary box, the archers are modelled with (thankfully separate) buckler shields strapped to their left arm. Was that practical?
I did not know Poole had such a specialist miniatures store. Just a day out from Bournemouth for me. Yeah. All about the Klibanaphoroi. Hope you get them painted and find a way of letting us see what you did. Post here if you’re allowed to include links.I wasn’t sure about Saga. It’s an interesting game. But it is basically an unrealistic board game in miniature.
@@stompie51 they paint rather nice. The faces are janky and you need to paint before glueing on the shields but the detail on the armor is deep and paint and shades settle well
It’s kind of like being told actually dinosaurs never died out. Just the non avian dinosaurs and birds are fully signed up dinosaurs. Then being told Rome never fell in 400AD or whatever but only half and the eastern bit continued till kind of Columbus landed in the Americas. They’re great models BTW. Still to see a game though as the person who was going to play Saga historicals with me moved!
@@Corvinuswargaming1444 indeed. But I have always feared they were a bit on the small side, whereas Fireforge are more chunky like say Wargames Foundry. I have Byzantines so maybe I will get Arabs one day. One day.
They have a great design these spearmen from Fireforge . A nice project . I have a question , as they need to be assemblated , is possible to build them in a fighting position ? I would be interesting creating some dioramas with some wargame brands but Im am always afraid that the figures are only in standing position before battle .
I think 28mm would bring even more character to your projects. But I don’t think these are right for you. The spear arms are all in a capital “L” shape for standing in formation. I don’t think they will work if you point the spear straight. But they do also come with swords. I think what would be better for you are the Victrix ancient and dark ages plastics as they are properly screaming and bashing each other :)
@@stompie51 Many thanks for this suggestion . I saw quite a lot of videos about Vitrix and their fugures look great as well . Have a nice day , Robert .
I'm using these as the basis of some Gondorian soldiers for skirmish games. As Stompie51 said this kit isn't the most dynamic. You might want to look at Fireforge's Rus and Byzantine Auxiliaries. They are not 100% different in style and are more dynamic. You could use the helmets and shields from the Spearmen.
Love your work Stompie and keep it up mate
I feel that Byzantine history, like War of the Roses or the Thirty Years War are for people with a better memory for names than what I posses. Still interesting.
I’ve read Dan Jones’s book on the Wars of the Roses and watched a few dummies guides and I still barely understand the various Plantagenet family issues. I’ve got a quarter the way through Peter Wilson’s book on 30 years war and couldn’t see how it all fits together. I’ve listened to most of the 200 part history of Byzantium podcasts and it all blurs into one. But they appeal to me as an empire that we have forgotten about that was so central.
I had a delightful visit to Entoyment gaming centre in Poole. One Byzantine Army purchased. I did not bother with the Koursors (lancers), or the horse archers, but I did get one box each of:
Cataphracts, auxiliaries (Archers), Spearmen, Turcopoles, and the resin Emperor command figure. I also got the resin infantry command resin blister but I don’t really need them in Saga. I don’t recall seeing the Varangian guard but I plan a relatively vanilla army (Saga:Age of Crusades).
6 points
1 Warlord (0 points)
3 points Hearthguard (Cataphracti) (2 units of 6)
3 points of Levy (36 models broken down into four units of 9. Two units armed with bows and two with spears. 49 figures, nice models, and an interesting battleboard. I would love to field the Turcopoles, and the Gripping Beast Nafatan but that would take me to eight points.
Nice comment about which shields to use for the spearmen. Looking at the photo on the auxiliary box, the archers are modelled with (thankfully separate) buckler shields strapped to their left arm. Was that practical?
I did not know Poole had such a specialist miniatures store. Just a day out from Bournemouth for me. Yeah. All about the Klibanaphoroi. Hope you get them painted and find a way of letting us see what you did. Post here if you’re allowed to include links.I wasn’t sure about Saga. It’s an interesting game. But it is basically an unrealistic board game in miniature.
They look really good - would fit in well with a huge range of different minis/brands :)
They are very versatile.
Honestly one of my favorite boxes out there
Have you managed to paint them? Interested in seeing.
@@stompie51 they paint rather nice. The faces are janky and you need to paint before glueing on the shields but the detail on the armor is deep and paint and shades settle well
@@magimon91834 noted. Great stuff.
What are the chances? I just started studying the Byzantine Empire recently and UA-cam recommends me this 🙃
Love the models! Might need to grab some!
It’s kind of like being told actually dinosaurs never died out. Just the non avian dinosaurs and birds are fully signed up dinosaurs. Then being told Rome never fell in 400AD or whatever but only half and the eastern bit continued till kind of Columbus landed in the Americas. They’re great models BTW. Still to see a game though as the person who was going to play Saga historicals with me moved!
those figures look nice, I have been wanting to get some Fireforge miniatures for a while
Thanks for commenting. I’m wondering about the upcoming Berbers. What would you get?
@@stompie51 The Berbers look like good figures as do the Black Guard they have on pre-order.
@@Corvinuswargaming1444 I won’t jump in till there are cavalry. Don’t rate the gripping beast ones.
@@stompie51 Footsore miniatures has a nice range of a variety of Islamic cavalry in white metal
@@Corvinuswargaming1444 indeed. But I have always feared they were a bit on the small side, whereas Fireforge are more chunky like say Wargames Foundry. I have Byzantines so maybe I will get Arabs one day. One day.
They have a great design these spearmen from Fireforge . A nice project . I have a question , as they need to be assemblated , is possible to build them in a fighting position ? I would be interesting creating some dioramas with some wargame brands but Im am always afraid that the figures are only in standing position before battle .
I think 28mm would bring even more character to your projects. But I don’t think these are right for you. The spear arms are all in a capital “L” shape for standing in formation. I don’t think they will work if you point the spear straight. But they do also come with swords. I think what would be better for you are the Victrix ancient and dark ages plastics as they are properly screaming and bashing each other :)
@@stompie51 Many thanks for this suggestion . I saw quite a lot of videos about Vitrix and their fugures look great as well . Have a nice day , Robert .
I'm using these as the basis of some Gondorian soldiers for skirmish games. As Stompie51 said this kit isn't the most dynamic. You might want to look at Fireforge's Rus and Byzantine Auxiliaries. They are not 100% different in style and are more dynamic. You could use the helmets and shields from the Spearmen.
@@edevans5991 Thanks for the advice . Robert
I was excited to see Victrix is releasing proper Rus miniatures.
Oi is pronounced E
I did not know that. Thanks.