‘Major Development’ | Lucy Letby Legal team Seeks Fresh Bid To Challenge Convictions

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  • @Himmelhauser
    @Himmelhauser 9 годин тому +29

    Letby hasn’t lost her appeal. She was not allowed to appeal.

    • @TrevorLee-x2f
      @TrevorLee-x2f 3 години тому +1

      But now other things have been revealed and the wind is blowing another way, please keep up.

    • @bumberClart1000
      @bumberClart1000 2 години тому

      @@Himmelhauser her sentence will eventually be extended.

  • @TashaCreatesStuff
    @TashaCreatesStuff 12 годин тому +32

    The doctor that walked in on her doing nothing has been shown to be unreliable. The court appeal document reveals this. It was doubtful it was even Lucy. There was a different nurse in the room at the time that looks quite similar to Lucy. The colour of her skin has nothing to do with the interest around this case. It's shameful that presenters bring this up.

    • @mazdodd4145
      @mazdodd4145 12 годин тому +10

      Dr J has changed his timeline 3 times. The swipe data was wrong way around & Nurse Williams had returned not left & the nurse he saw was probably Nurse Oakley.

    • @gelbsucht947
      @gelbsucht947 7 годин тому +3

      Confirmation bias. Dr J may have seen Oakley but expected to see Letby and therefore assumed he saw her.

    • @bumberClart1000
      @bumberClart1000 2 години тому

      @@TashaCreatesStuff there’s other proven cases that she was guilty of. Save it

  • @John-p7i5g
    @John-p7i5g 9 годин тому +14

    4:15 'Doctors walking in and finding a nurse just standing there'
    Julia has swallowed the MSM story hook line and sinker.
    These are the same Doctors that had to apologise and humiliate themselves in front of Letby. These are the doctors that accused Letby. The same doctors that kept a drawer of doom on Letby, that started rumours about her. One of whom reputedly had his advances rejected by Letby. That went to the police about Letby. That focused the blame of a dysfunctional ward on Letby.
    Is the accuser always innocent? History tells us that they are frequently the guilty ones.

    • @KingBee24
      @KingBee24 6 годин тому +6

      ... and this doctor only remembered this incident when he was threatened with being reported to the GMC ... and he didn't mention it to anyone prior to that. You don't have to be Columbo to figure this one out !

  • @gillianstapleton8566
    @gillianstapleton8566 11 годин тому +27

    This is definitely a huge miscarriage of justice.. it didn’t make sense to me as a nurse of adults on ventilators .. the new medical evidence makes way more sense for the babies death with the liver laceration.. the pressure was set at the prescribed rate which was too high for the small infant .. that dr misdiagnosed went in with a needle to aspirate not X-ray guided but blindly .. and didn’t know the liver was displaced downwards because of the lungs being over inflated pushing downwards on the diaphragm.. he punctured the liver which is a highly vascular organ causing a bleed which led to shock and cardiac arrest: not alone did he do this he also entered on the right rather than the left ! Lucy is the scapegoat for major medical malpractice.. what’s even more annoying is if that dr owned up he wouldn’t even lose his medical license it would have been an out of court settlement.. but he was happy enough to blame the nurse and watch as she was burnt at the stake like a witch hunt and locked up for life .. this girl worked most days of the week overtime to cover shifts they were short staffed for … of course she was going to be on duty for a lot of deaths.

    • @gelbsucht947
      @gelbsucht947 7 годин тому +2

      It’s very interesting to get a perspective from a medic who is in a position to evaluate the medical evidence. What do you think about the babies that had high insulin levels but an absence of C-peptide, suggesting they were exogenously administered with insulin? That always looked a bit suspicious to me from what I (a non-medical) read about it. (Doesn’t necessarily mean Lucy administered it).

    • @GretsGarbo-h9m
      @GretsGarbo-h9m 6 годин тому +3

      @@gelbsucht947 The forensic evidence for high levels of insulin was dodgy. Some of these babies have multiple problems and often have liver failure.

    • @karenwall8643
      @karenwall8643 6 годин тому +4

      The neonatologist at the press conference brings up new information about the insulin readings and their unreliability

  • @adiudicium
    @adiudicium 11 годин тому +11

    I don't think the truth lies somewhere in the middle, either you've a killer or not. Lucy Letby didn't need to be actually caring for the baby, and in one case wasn't there. Often many people around, but no one saw anything, not even the doctor that reckoned many months later he saw her do nothing. What was hidden from the jury was medical incompetence, the unit only had consultants do ward rounds twice a week, most care given by junior doctors leading to circumstances like them trying 5 times to put in lines or a needle being left in a baby leading to a punctured lung, 3 chest drains (one of which was put in wrongly by the same doctor who said they didn't see her do anything) and much more. They were taking babies too sick for the unit, or couldn't transfer out promptly very sick babies. There was poor infection control and plumbing issues, pseudomonas isolated in the taps. That alone is a huge risk, premature babies have poor immune systems.
    None of that apparently affected care, but it should have been front and centre at the trial rather than the not very novel multiple claims of air embolism, which seem to chop and change. The insulin claim is extremely dodgy too, they left out the baby with a condition which causes high insulin who was transferred out and failed to highlight both babies had risk factors, one had a mother with gestational diabetes. They both recovered too. Never proved any insulin was given.

  • @elizabethberry4838
    @elizabethberry4838 13 годин тому +50

    Lucy is just scapegoat. For others in the medical proffesion.

    • @jordkinsmith3588
      @jordkinsmith3588 12 годин тому +7

      No, shes so obviously guilty it’s literally not even worth discussing. Its one of the most clear-cut cases ive ever seen

    • @eBaySellerAccountsForSale
      @eBaySellerAccountsForSale 12 годин тому +2

      Yes

    • @turnitback
      @turnitback 12 годин тому +1

      Isn't it remarkable that you who are certain based on nothing are always illiterate?​@@jordkinsmith3588

    • @bradleyday5829
      @bradleyday5829 12 годин тому +1

      ​@@jordkinsmith3588
      Utter crap

    • @ruthbashford3176
      @ruthbashford3176 10 годин тому

      @@jordkinsmith3588 The medical evidence has been discredited by world renown consultant neonatologists and other medical experts. The babies died from suboptimal care and natural causes. Baby O died because of a negligent doctor.
      The bogus spreadsheet has been comprehensively debunked by eminent statisticians from The Royal Statistical Society.
      The other so called 'evidence' is specious and worthless.
      Dewi Evans should be charged with perjury along with his NHS mates who agreed with his nonsense

  • @Marigold-m2
    @Marigold-m2 10 годин тому +17

    1) Susan Nelles, Canada - wrongfully accused of pediatric deaths - 1980/81 2) Lucia de Berk, Netherlands - wrongful conviction of pediatric deaths - 2003/4

  • @eBaySellerAccountsForSale
    @eBaySellerAccountsForSale 12 годин тому +30

    She didnt do it

    • @ruthbashford3176
      @ruthbashford3176 10 годин тому +5

      Of course she didn't. Lucy is completely innocent unlike some of the consultants and other staff.

  • @carla.p2795
    @carla.p2795 3 години тому +4

    Talk about a miscarriage of justice!

  • @ronaldmckenna1283
    @ronaldmckenna1283 7 годин тому +10

    Unsafe conviction, period.

  • @mazdodd4145
    @mazdodd4145 12 годин тому +25

    There were no murders. Would you be happy in adult ICU if the consultants only did a round 2 times a week. That is what happened in the COCH NICU. They were caring for babies much more prem than they were competent tl care for. Junior drs wete not suoervised properly & so babies crashed & some then died.

    • @Redesign24
      @Redesign24 7 годин тому

      They were deliberately injected with insulin

  • @johnflynn5044
    @johnflynn5044 10 годин тому +9

    Seems we learned nothing from the shocking Dr Meadows saga .. The expert in this trial was an attention seeking and entirely untrustworthy man.. Another judge in a different trial described him as unreliable, also calling his evidence worthless.. Not sure about a level of respect being due to the jury.. I doubt very much they understood a bloody thing about this case, which is a classic example of why Ive said over and over, we need expert juries for these very specialised cases inc Med Neg and complex fraud cases where I feel the jury should be made up of professionals who would not be bamboozled by smart lawyers and barristers

  • @Oddballthegreat406
    @Oddballthegreat406 8 годин тому +6

    The court of appeal did not allow Lucy Letby to appeal. The 58 page document released by them is worthless garbage which fails to understand how in medicine, one single symptom being present or absent in a patient can be crucial to correct diagnosis. The skin discoloration evidence matters a great deal but they dismissed it because they don't know what they are talking about. Those 3 judges are not Doctors but made a ruling on the importance or otherwise of medical evidence used in the trial. By what authority? Where did they gain their medical degree?

  • @robinburn4974
    @robinburn4974 13 годин тому +12

    Something fishy going on I think

  • @CW1971
    @CW1971 7 годин тому +4

    It p1sses me off that because people are campaigning for Lucy Letbys conviction to be looked at, we're all trying to save a young blonde damsel in distress. I'm also campaigning for a fat middle aged bloke from Indiana and a young black woman from Arizona who've been wrongfully convicted. Some people just know when something stinks, doesn't matter who the accused/ convicted person is.

  • @treefrog1956
    @treefrog1956 6 годин тому +4

    I bet the vast majority of the jurors that convicted her wouldn't do so now. I don't know her name but this woman presenter is terrible. She doesn't seem to know anything about the case. This bloke isn't much better either, whoever he is.

  • @jamesrigby6061
    @jamesrigby6061 10 годин тому +6

    Why is this presenter allowed to make any sort of statement on this case, when its quite clear she knows nothing about the case whatsoever.. It annoys me that such shoddy reporting is put to the public by this obnoxious woman as fact. Just go away woman and get more information and then you will be welcome to have an opinion. But before then just keep your mouth tightly shut.

    • @lks6248
      @lks6248 9 годин тому

      The opinion of anyone who didn’t consider all of the evidence in the court room and on the jury doesn’t matter.

    • @KingBee24
      @KingBee24 6 годин тому +2

      @@lks6248 On the contrary ! We know a LOT more than the jury. Since the trial ended, it's transpired that lots of important information was kept from them. Keep up !

    • @mfoco1
      @mfoco1 6 годин тому

      Employees of Rupert Murdoch do not have a reputation of journalistic integrity.

    • @Truthequation
      @Truthequation 6 годин тому

      @@lks6248that argument makes no sense. How far back do we take it? Is a jury there at the scene of a crime (or alleged crime) when it was committed? Was Brian Cox there at the time of the Big Bang? It makes almost no difference to the ability of a new group of expert witnesses to evaluate and conclude on medical evidence whether or not they sat through the trial. Probably better they weren’t there as they are less affected by biases.

  • @Truthequation
    @Truthequation 6 годин тому +3

    When there is so a huge weight of new analysis, facts and evidence and much of it now explained by medical, legal, and statistical experts in a way which was not available to the jury at the time of the trial, a jury who were guided by the now exposed amateur Evans - with all of that water under the bridge, can we please stop trotting out the “they didn’t sit through the whole trial” as the opening line every time channels like this one attempt to discredit the new evidence in support of Letby’s innocence. So lazy.
    That line is only second to the “you’re only interested because she’s pretty and white.” in the anti-Letby pro-establishment cover-up bingo card.

    • @KingBee24
      @KingBee24 2 години тому +1

      Brilliantly put ... I was going to post something similar, but you've articulated it better than I could.

  • @Steve-el9by
    @Steve-el9by 6 годин тому +5

    She is innocent. Full stop

    • @greatwhiteshark9192
      @greatwhiteshark9192 3 години тому

      Nobody knows that for sure... we'll all have to wait and see

    • @Steve-el9by
      @Steve-el9by 2 години тому

      @greatwhiteshark9192 yes your right but.... If you read the transcripts, the format the police put together, evidence, witness's. The cps. And what was going on at the hospital. Seriously difficult to believe something isn't wrong..

    • @greatwhiteshark9192
      @greatwhiteshark9192 Годину тому

      @@Steve-el9by I actually think she'd be safer in jail...that's horrific!!

    • @Steve-el9by
      @Steve-el9by Годину тому

      @@greatwhiteshark9192 post office scandal. The locals hated the guilty post master's. Enlightened, and angry, we all love them and wish for justice to be served. I can remember the Birmingham 6, Maguire 7, Guilford 4. Jill dando's miscarriage, Carl Bridgewater. And recently Andrew Malkinson.. don't see this going away

  • @greigsanderson
    @greigsanderson 9 годин тому +6

    Paid by the tax payer? Guilty as Sin, TWICE.

  • @Alexander..........
    @Alexander.......... 6 годин тому +2

    That poor little girl Sara the torture she went through was sickening to hear

  • @rasputin8405
    @rasputin8405 8 годин тому +7

    No evidence

    • @UKVeteran2024
      @UKVeteran2024 4 години тому

      none you have bothered looking at

  • @bittersweet82
    @bittersweet82 13 годин тому +6

    No one should be discussing harder prison sentences for mean tweets or throwing milkshake.
    Hey, what are you in for?
    Throwing banana milkshake over a politician, you?
    Posting a tweet that hurt someone's feedings, at least we aren't in for wearing a poppy like that poor sod over there.
    The world has gone mad.

    • @Jesus.is.the.Way.2386
      @Jesus.is.the.Way.2386 11 годин тому +1

      all this woke garbage spread from the US, and they've got the cheek now to laugh at us. You cannot even complain about the NHS now w/o being cancelled and called an abuser

  • @charlesjamesward7374
    @charlesjamesward7374 11 годин тому +5

    I love how there only defence seems to be you weren’t in the court room well none of the journalists to had concerns about lance Armstrong ever saw him injecting steroids but there proven right, so what excitedly is there point?

    • @nickdandel5314
      @nickdandel5314 10 годин тому +3

      Spot on!
      Juries made up of uneducated pedestrians decide on complex medical matters after they have been fed for weeks then version of reality by the prosecution.

  • @gray41
    @gray41 10 годин тому +7

    Loads died not in the trial when she wasnt on shift too

  • @petewood3493
    @petewood3493 13 годин тому +7

    Not sure why comments are turned on. ANY true and hard hitting comments that are remotely critical of the ‘justice’ system will be removed or censored.

    • @John-p7i5g
      @John-p7i5g 9 годин тому

      Why would that be? You should be critical of all organs of society

  • @marie-francoiserama7052
    @marie-francoiserama7052 6 годин тому +1

    The T inquiry is looking at "How was LL able to commit the seven murders." That's all.

  • @jamzjamz1476
    @jamzjamz1476 2 години тому

    I believe she’s guilty but I do believe she will eventually be freed

  • @UKVeteran2024
    @UKVeteran2024 4 години тому +2

    None of this evidence is new, she is guilty, get over yourselves!

  • @joebloggs1317
    @joebloggs1317 9 годин тому

    You can't say she's innocent, but it makes you wonder if the courts proved her guilt?

    • @idi0tdetectioninprogress
      @idi0tdetectioninprogress 7 годин тому +2

      Well you kind of can, in the spirit that we are born innocent, until such time that guilt is proven beyond reasonable doubt.
      The question is, has what went on really met the standard required.

  • @Lulululu514
    @Lulululu514 10 годин тому +1

    It’s not pronounced Dewy it’s Dewi ( Derwie) 🤦‍♀️

    • @treefrog1956
      @treefrog1956 6 годин тому +3

      No, it's pronounced charlatan.

    • @KingBee24
      @KingBee24 6 годин тому

      Dr Evans himself pronounces it Dowie !

    • @Lulululu514
      @Lulululu514 5 годин тому

      @@KingBee24 He could possibly be English then with a Welsh name.

    • @Lulululu514
      @Lulululu514 5 годин тому

      @@treefrog1956 🤣🤣

  • @Katie-kt5uw
    @Katie-kt5uw 12 годин тому +4

    Too much coincidence sorry

  • @bumberClart1000
    @bumberClart1000 12 годин тому +3

    Very dodgy. More evidence against her. What about the families of the children that died?

    • @ruthbashford3176
      @ruthbashford3176 12 годин тому +1

      There is NO credible evidence against Lucy Letby

    • @TashaCreatesStuff
      @TashaCreatesStuff 12 годин тому +6

      and what about her family? Her parents have suffered terribly through this blatant miss carriage of justice.

    • @treefrog1956
      @treefrog1956 6 годин тому

      Do you think the families would be happy to have a potentially innocent nurse banged up for life when in all probability it was a dysfunctional unit that caused the additional deaths?

    • @Truthequation
      @Truthequation 6 годин тому +2

      The parents of the babies should get the truth - not a scapegoat.

    • @mfoco1
      @mfoco1 6 годин тому +1

      What about them? Whereby there is even a remote possibility that Letby is innocent, they should ALL be demanding that the appeal proceed. Any that are not simply show that they cannot reasonably be expected to think rationally. Their views must not be taken into consideration in deciding the appropriate judicial course of action.

  • @rubyring2461
    @rubyring2461 6 годин тому +2

    Why is no one talking about the fact there was a baby killed with insulin

    • @willowm9469
      @willowm9469 2 години тому +3

      Because there wasn't. There were two babies that Lucy was found guilty of attempting to murder with insulin. Both of those babies survived. There is a lot of debate currently about whether the blood tests used are sufficient to proof insulin poisoning.

    • @KingBee24
      @KingBee24 2 години тому +2

      There were no babies killed by insulin. Don't you think that you should read up on the case before commenting ?

  • @elainesayers5631
    @elainesayers5631 9 годин тому +1

    I wonder how many have died since she left that workplace ?

    • @connorwood8527
      @connorwood8527 7 годин тому +9

      Unit was downgraded so less at risk babies admitted
      Keep up with the narrative

    • @idi0tdetectioninprogress
      @idi0tdetectioninprogress 7 годин тому +4

      Its hugely distorted for many reasons. The unit was seriously downgraded, more consultant walk rounds, less babies. Plus the way they allocate deaths isnt as clear as you would think. I'm still doing some fact finding on it.

    • @denisehill7769
      @denisehill7769 7 годин тому +1

      The real question to ask is, how many total deaths in a given period, and exactly who was on duty at those times - including the consultants.

    • @elainesayers5631
      @elainesayers5631 6 годин тому

      @@connorwood8527 it was a genuine question. No narrative. Do you know then?

    • @jobo1053
      @jobo1053 Годину тому

      @@elainesayers5631 Anybody who's actually followed this case knows. Keep up.

  • @viviennecuff6612
    @viviennecuff6612 12 годин тому +6

    There is so much circumstantial evidence, she has been found guilty but there is a movement which seems determined to find her innocent and place blame on the system. I would not let her care for any sick child of mine.

    • @chargin-justizfitzsimons1778
      @chargin-justizfitzsimons1778 12 годин тому +4

      no there's not do your research

    • @ruthbashford3176
      @ruthbashford3176 12 годин тому +2

      The medical evidence has been roundly discredited by numerous medical experts, including consultant neonatologists. NOT one medical expert (outside of the trial) has agreed with Dewi Evans) He should be charged with perjury along with his NHS mates who agreed with his nonsense.
      The bogus spreadsheet has also been comprehensively debunked by eminent statisticians from the The Royal Statistical Society.
      The so called 'evidence' left is specious and worthless.

    • @Kelt1881
      @Kelt1881 12 годин тому

      @@chargin-justizfitzsimons1778 It seems to be a fact that she had mental health issues; of course if a nurse has some eccentric behaviour, I mean a personality that isn't completely in the cultural norm for a light skinned western British nurse, it doesn't mean that she should be convicted of murders. These are theories it seems, I'm not sure if theories is the correct word.

    • @TashaCreatesStuff
      @TashaCreatesStuff 12 годин тому +5

      There isn't actually. It's totally flawed. I wouldn't leave my child in that hospital with those doctors.

    • @stephenoliver2170
      @stephenoliver2170 10 годин тому

      Race has nothing to do with it ,

  • @jordkinsmith3588
    @jordkinsmith3588 12 годин тому +14

    Shes guilty as sin 😂 literally couldn’t BE more guilty. Anyone who thinks she’s innocent is a complete moron. The MINUTE she left the hospital the deaths stopped happening. It doesnt get more clear cut than that

    • @snackweasle6516
      @snackweasle6516 12 годин тому +15

      No the hospital was downgraded so they weren't taking the more difficult cases, so the death rate fell... simples...

    • @jordkinsmith3588
      @jordkinsmith3588 12 годин тому +4

      @ nope, she was put on leave before she had even been properly accused and the deaths immediately stopped. They also stopped the second she was finally removed for good. She was the ONLY nurse on shift for EVERY SINGLE DEATH. It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure it out mate 😂

    • @charlesjamesward7374
      @charlesjamesward7374 12 годин тому +11

      @@jordkinsmith3588and you’re clearly not Sherlock are you

    • @ruthbashford3176
      @ruthbashford3176 12 годин тому +10

      @@jordkinsmith3588 The deaths did not stop and the only reason they decreased is because the unit was downgraded and did not take such sick and premature babies.
      Lucy Letby was NOT the only nurse on shift for EVERY SINGLE DEATH AS THERE WERE DEATHS WHEN LUCY WAS NOT ON DUTY. I think people like you and JHB should really do some more research on this case and then you might know what you're TALKING ABOUT

    • @jordkinsmith3588
      @jordkinsmith3588 12 годин тому +2

      @@charlesjamesward7374 no because he doesnt exist. He’s a work of fiction, as fictitious as your argument that she’s innocent 😂

  • @Orcbotbasher
    @Orcbotbasher 13 годин тому +6

    Didn't she admit her atrocious crimes in a diary though?

    • @mariewalmsley6143
      @mariewalmsley6143 13 годин тому +2

      Yeah ,she wrote she did it on purpose. But she's innoncent apparently.

    • @beecee985
      @beecee985 13 годин тому

      You finger fool, wake up

    • @beecee985
      @beecee985 13 годин тому

      ​@@mariewalmsley6143you kernob

    • @denise4487
      @denise4487 12 годин тому +13

      No she was asked to write down her thoughts by a therapist which they didnt mention in her cross examination, the KC didnt even bother with those notes over the ten days she was on the stand

    • @turnitback
      @turnitback 11 годин тому +9

      She was writing down her thoughts, in this example anguishing over what others were assuming about her. She did that on the advice of her therapist, to try to cope under the stress of her situation. It wasn't a confession.

  • @rubyring2461
    @rubyring2461 5 годин тому +1

    Disgusting that this news outlet is ignoring a lot f facts here. Its obvious she did it

    • @ianlee487
      @ianlee487 3 години тому

      Your disgusting maybe happen to you 1 day

    • @KingBee24
      @KingBee24 2 години тому +2

      Another 'Crime Scene 2 Courtroom' fan

    • @jobo1053
      @jobo1053 Годину тому

      @@KingBee24 yes, another brainwashed moron

  • @Laetitia-rc8sg
    @Laetitia-rc8sg 13 годин тому

    Strange photo of Sara.
    A Photoshop mix of child and adult. 🤢

  • @Laetitia-rc8sg
    @Laetitia-rc8sg 13 годин тому +4

    What about the journal Lucy wrote?

    • @beecee985
      @beecee985 13 годин тому +7

      Her therapist told her too write down all thoughts too help her cope with stress, wake up 😡

    • @Laetitia-rc8sg
      @Laetitia-rc8sg 12 годин тому +2

      @beecee985 I am awake. Please watch your spelling 🙏

    • @beecee985
      @beecee985 12 годин тому +1

      ​@@Laetitia-rc8sgclearly your not aware of some important facts, silly old bint

    • @jordkinsmith3588
      @jordkinsmith3588 12 годин тому +1

      Shes so guilty its not even funny

    • @Laetitia-rc8sg
      @Laetitia-rc8sg 12 годин тому

      I would rather go back to school 🎒🏫

  • @50milliondownthedraintonym16
    @50milliondownthedraintonym16 10 годин тому +5

    the undoing of evans will prove the undoing of jayaram and brearley

    • @Relugus
      @Relugus 9 годин тому

      The impression I get is that Brearey has killed quite alot of babies.

  • @MrStardust50
    @MrStardust50 4 години тому

    Evans changed his mind.