True but Francis is awful he’s a corrupt person that only cares about his job and not his family and though The family are thugs they’re honest about what they do.
@@skollandhati9961 lol, i think you didnt understand the full details of his family Francis might be a corrupted cop and an a hole but his cause are noble but in dirty ways He isnt like Tenpenny doing drug deals and sold everyone and corrupted everyone out He cared about his family, even if he means he dont care, he promised to his mother that he'll try to be a good son by caring his family, and yet he did, how? He didnt put them down in the first place Gerald on the other hand got caught and nothing he can do about it, he could've put him down in the first place but he didnt, plus he always look after them by not putting them down He cared about his family too, unlike Derrick He never wanted to kill Derrick in the first place but since hes threatening his brother to the journalist in the first place, so he have no other choice but to kill him He even regret order a hit to his brother, Derrick like he mentions during phonecall after the Blood Brothers mission as he knows, his mother wouldn't want this, unlike Derrick Derrick however, is a rat, selling everyone out even his brother, Francis after what he has done for him, he always involved in some crime and always messed up people's lives including his former allies that have already suffered, he dont even care about his family as he just gone keep hiding whenever theres a trouble like in Undertaker mission He always cause problems, which probably cause his family in danger which makes Francis worried as theres a hit on Derrick's head by the mafia And hes a meth junkie, he eventually die anyway He might play nice to you, but hes fooling you, thats just a mask to cover his real skin Even in Undertaker mission, he always flee like Francis said whenever theres a trouble Hes nowhere to be found after the cutscene and didnt bother to help his family flee from the scene, hes hiding like a coward he is whenever theres trouble unlike Francis who safely escorted his family away from the scene Derrick is some insane troublemaker meth guy try to cause some trouble in for himself while Francis trying to clean up the mess in dirty ways Hes the one brought this on himself, hes should be dead, not Francis Imagine if Derrick is the one order the hit, he wouldn't cared, nor regret, unlike Francis Hes worse than you even think
@@timmyreyes1993 Yeah, says Niko despised being used as a tool to do dirty work...and dispose of the brother Francis isn't himself brave enough to kill.
I’m not a fan of Derrick but Francis was such an unlikeable slimeball that killing him was less about helping Derrick and more about sticking it to Francis
@@GokanSaki You see, Derrick is basically the same as Darko, only not in relation to Niko. He also betrayed his friends which led to them being killed. Francis is just a corrupt cop and not a very good human being, but over time I tend to think more and more that Derrick is worse.
The way Derrick handled things during the heist sold me on the Blood Brothers-choice; he actually cared a bit for the victims and the casualties in the bank, and wanted things to go smoothly. While Francis wouldn't think another second of stomping down those who oppose him. Even as a drug-riddled wreck, he still has a semblance of integrity, and that's... almost commendable.
I agree, he handled the bank heist well and I liked that he actually cared about them. Derrick wasn't a bad person he just made some bad decisions. I also spared Derrick during blood brothers and shot Francis.
By that point he just got back from Ireland. But considering he was born and raised in New York/Liberty City, it probably didn't take him long to code-switch back to his American accent.
Could be despite his drug use he’s craftier then he looks. Using a heavy Irish accent during the heist, but maintaining a regular American accent to avoid being identified.
That’s actually not uncommon. My girlfriend is from Nigeria, when we first met I thought she grew up in the U.S. But whenever she’s talking with her family, when something annoys her, or when she finds something amusing, she’ll go back into her Nigerian accent. I giggle inside every time that happens.
Derrick is easily one of my most favorite characters from GTA. He was truly dedicated to everything he did, be it the cause in Ireland, and also avoiding civilian casualties during the bank heist. He wasn't necessarily a bad person, the only bad things about him were snitching on his friends in order to avoid doing jail time and his drug addiction. He's the most compassionate brother in the family. Derrick's VERY underrated. He deserves waaaay more recognition. He's my most favorite McReary, second is Packie.
He actually regret snitching his friends, which is why he's still a better person than francis. Francis is pretty much worse than his brothers because he loves deluding himself that he's a good person.
You know it's funny how the bank robbery was never mentioned or planned out with Niko beforehand and the all just winged it and succeeded. Then next game, ever heist is planned out to a T, with a nerdy hacker genius having to be there to help out.
I like to think this heist was reason the ones in 5 are a lot more complicated and thought out. It kind of makes sense as bank robberies were an easy lick before the 2000s.
A motto I try to live by tbh. I ain't got a drug problem like Derrick or anything like that, but everyone has their troubles and I think it's good to be honest about them. Both to others and oneself
How do u know? rockstar never specified his death all we know by packie is that he's dead all the people who always say that are the people who would rather have francis dead and don't say shit thats assumed but never confirmed
I chose Derrick over Francis because Francis was blackmailing you into killing his brother. That's low. Derrick never asked you to kill Francis. Niko sits with Derrick at the funeral and won't sit with Francis.
Exactly! Also, Derrick is by far the most compassionate McReary. Also, Derrick just wants to close the book on his past, nothing more, so he’s harmless. Francis and his corruption is crippling the city therefore is a real threat to justice. I understand that killing Aiden wasn’t nice, but at least he was a crook, whereas Francis wants Niko to kill Tom Goldberg, a lawyer who aspired to expose many corrupt police officers and government officials, I felt REALLY bad after killing him.
Yeah, you should've done Francis, not Derrick. Both Playboy and Francis did blackmail Niko into killing Dwayne and Derrick, but Dwayne and Derrick never ordered Niko to kill Playboy and Francis because Dwayne and Derrick had more morals than Playboy and Francis and Niko makes his own decisions whether to decide: Good morals or bad morals.
The first time that i did the Mission, i was wondering who kill, so i did a reason, Kill a Crooked Cop (for then use him), or kill a Drug Addict with a miserable life, with no exchange. This is why i love the choses that the game gave to you, this one is complicated cuz whatever thing you do is wrong. GTA 4 is the best game i ever played, Fuck...
A lot of the choices in this game don't matter, but this one really does. Even if you shoot Francis, Derrick still dies of an overdose. (Reason why you cannot call him)
@@TheChosenMoose01 No the reason why you can't call him is because his number disappears from niko's phone like almost all phone numbers at the end of storyline so it doesn't mean he died then
Storywise I disagree. In GTA V the heists were planned better and they usually had a reason why they did the heists. In GTA IV they just ran trough the city killing hundreds of cops, only for 500k. It felt unrealistic, unplanned and an overall overkill for a small prize. I like gunplay in GTA V more due to the variety of the weapons and realistic damage output, but GTA IV has far better physics which makes the overall gameplay superior to V.
Francis is funny, but Derrick is very miserble and if you kill him and put him out of his miserble life, he can finally Rest in peace better than living and suffering.
King The Son put it other ways - after storyline is finished, Niko can live in peace with powerful friends apart, such as UL Paper (CIA) and... police commissioner Francis McReary from LCPD. A perfect life for an ex-GTA protagonist ;)
MoviesNGames007uk well Derrick mentioned died in gta v because overdose. Killing him is better than letting him betray everyone for drugs Just like Darko
Same here i would have chosen Francis when i was 18 going 19 then Derrick would have gone to a journalist and talk about his family to i would have used my head also eyes and brains like batman to
I'm going to get a lot of hate but Derrick was the brother I hated the most. He is a junkie, a traitor, a snitch and a mess, I honestly see no redeeming qualities in him. Fracnis is crooked and hypocritical but at least he does something useful for the community and he is probably the only son who keeps his mother happy with his career choice. Gerry is the man, I think he is basically like the father figure for everyone in the family, now that their actual father has died, and I'm sure he is just like his father was minus drunken abuse. Packie is a fun guy and a good friend. Unfortunately, Derrick is doomed, by himself and his choices, so it was only a matter of time.
FlymanMS honestly Francis is a hypocrite and alot of GTA players hate him. But honestly outside of him being a crooked cop. When you look at the other people he killed they were all scumbags. The dealer was going to kill niko anyways. When you think of it Francis does good things.
I don't really think there was supposed to be a flat-out "good" choice. Neither Derrick nor Francis are exactly what would constitute as "good people", and it's more of a matter of who you end up relating to the most. Derrick was a complete mess with how he treated his body and others in his past. He sold out his old compatriots and just wants it all to be done so he can take his drugs in peace, and is in such bad of shape that he isn't even a consideration for taking care of Packie's mom if Kate dies. Francis was a self-righteous hypocrite who is more than willing to assassinate people who would give him a bad name, and was mostly implied just to "clean up the streets" just for the fame and recognition he'd get to it, rather than because he actually thought it'd make peoples' lives better. The biggest difference is that Francis directly intimidates Niko, and tries to essentially blackmail him into doing whatever it is he needs done that the regular LCPD can't do, while Niko helps Derrick mostly out of pity for what he has become. This is completely supported by how Niko was rewarded for who he chose to kill; killing Francis had no material upside to it. He didn't get a single dime for choosing Derrick over Francis, just any sense of satisfaction he'd get out of offing someone who tried to bully him. Francis obviously has the resources necessary to reimburse Niko for what he had done, and saw Derrick as nothing but a disgrace to his name, so he thought just to sever the link to him, no matter the consequences of how his greater family would feel about Derrick's death. Point being, none of them are really good people when you look at it; the difference is that Francis is so crooked he could swallow nails and spit out corkscrews, but because he's gunning for police chief, he could do a lot of good for the average person in Liberty City, especially considering the context of The Lost-AoD gang wars and the conflicts between the Rascalov Mafiya and The Commission. Derrick's more sympathizable, and it's because he's been laid so low but still treats Niko with some modicum of respect unlike the condescending, self-righteous sneering that always comes from Francis' mouth, he doesn't look as bad, even if his actions don't support that he's necessarily a better person.
Honestly, didn’t mind taking out people for Derrick until Aiden. Derrick ratted on him first so he owed him no loyalty, and he had him killed just to save his sorry ass.
It's been discussed dozens of times, but here are MY reasons to kill Francis instead of Derrick: 1) Francis constantly threatened and blackmailed Nicko, while Derrick treated him with respect. 2) It seemed like their family would miss Derrick more. 3) When these two said, that they are not saint, Derrick seemed to be more sincere and repentant. 4) One crooked cop seemed to be worse for a society, than one junky crook. Especially if Francis would have become a commissioner.
The first scene where Niko meets Derrick in the park was absolutely incredible voice work by Derrick’s voice actor. He clearly put so much depth and emotion into his role in just that scene alone and it’s one of the game’s most memorable cutscenes for me because of that.
@@willcardona7712 At least he didn't betrayed his family and didn't abandon them like Francis did, and how is Derrick a hypocrite lol? he said it himself that he did bad shit but he's honest about it and he also looks like he regrets what he did, probably that's the reason why he kept getting high, he mentions that he gets high so he would stop caring, i think he refers to his past actions. Francis is way worse in any way than Derrick.
@@notyourdaddude1957 He lied to Niko about Bucky and Aiden. He claimed that they snitched him out, when it was really him that snitched them out. Then he had Niko kill them both. Him getting high and stoned to stop caring refer to both his past and present actions. Thanks to the magic of drugs, he can shit on anybody and everybody and not feel guilty about it. As for him not betraying his family, that's up for serious debate. See the video entitled "Who Really Ratted Out Gerry McReary And Why? GTA 4 Lore Explained" for more details. On a final note, in the funeral mission when Derrick is killed and the funeral gets shot up, Francis at least protects his mother and drives her away from the danger. In the same mission when Francis is killed and the funeral gets shot up, some stranger drives his mother away from the danger. Derrick was nowhere to be found. He probably ran away. Derrick may seem noble on the outside. But when the chips are down, he will always save himself first. For him, it's all about saving his own ass and scoring his next fix, no matter who he has to betray or kill to do it.
6:36 I love this wink for upcoming The Ballad of Gay Tony. ;) And Luis: ¡Diablos, qué mierda! at 7:52. :P 7:40 A minute of silence for Saint Michael. Requiescat in Pace. Great work, man. ¡Gracia', papi whatever! ;)
I used a cop cheat to make the heist interesting. Also don't use a RPG on the Things at the stairs because they will glitch out and will kill either Derrick or Packie
The reason I chose Derrick is because he was just going mad and was always paranoid. Death set him free. And I enjoy the fact that Francis has to live with the fact that he hired a hitman to kill his own brother.
Cause derrick dies regardless even if you kill Francis, It is mentioned by packie in GTA 5 that derrick is dead possibly due to drug or alcohol overdose.(or if killing derrick is the canon choice.)
I love this game but that bank heist had to be the messiest heist ever pulled in the city LOL they musta gunned down half the force and they didn’t even get all the money in the safe
Derrick did have friends he had adone Omally who was 49 but no longer a friend and he dies Sligo bucky who was 51.5 but on longer a friend but he dies Niko was 30.5 And probably more Derrick was actually 54
I like Derrick better but from Niko's perspective I'd say Derrick should go. If you like a miserable man with regrets about his life and dislike crooked cop, sure, knock Francis's dome off we go. However, Derrick's a snitch. He would betray anyone for junk and to avoid doing time. In fact, Niko himself has an intense loathing for snitches. People often cite how Derrick and Dwayne are the ones who felt the danger and ask Niko to look out for them rather than telling him to off someone on their behalf (Playboy X and Francis) but this point often overlooked how Niko refused to kill Dwayne at first because Playboy X is betraying Dwayne. I think Niko learned his lesson after offing Faustin on behalf of Dimitri. Now Francis is no saint but he is straight with Niko when asking him to do the dirty work. Plus we can blackmail him back at the end so that's that for revenge.
As much as I like Derrick, I still chose to kill him. The guy is in his 50s and has all these problems. And despite him talking about making things right, I can’t help but notice all the stories where he does betray people to save himself. Francis is a bastard, but at least he’s honest with you about it, plus you get something out of it. Also, in GTA 5, Packie mentions Derrick is dead either way, which is 5 years after GTA 4, so even if you spare him he dies not long after anyway.
RIP Derrick McReary 1956-2008. Killed by Niko at the behest of Francis McReary his own brother. RIP Michael Kane 1979-2008 friend and henchman of the Irish family.
@Barone niko killing francis actually makes sense, given his reaction on "blood brothers" (by telling francis to phak off and i will hit who im aiming at), and the fact he would sit beside derrick but not on francis on "undertaker" (on this mission, if you kill francis, only mrs. Mcreary is the only one who miss him).
@Barone yeah derrick is still a better person than francis, even though he was a snitch (he actually regret doing that even though he still silenced his old pals, unlike francis who was so deluded that he thinks he's a good person). there are people who actually thought that derrick's worse cuz he's a rat. If that's true, then steve haines is a better person than michael cuz he's a rat and a criminal while haines is fed.
@Barone do you also play gta sa? If you do, im curious if u find kickstart hard. Cuz that side mission is preventing me from getting 100 percent, i find it too hard.
I just looked, according to a very brief look at Wikipedia. PE-4 (Plastic Explosive No. 4) is an explosive that's like C-4 but not quite the same. It's used by the British Military. So it's essentially British C-4. Couldn't tell you the difference but Derrick's right to insist it's different.
Anyone else realize how stupid Francis' plan to kill Derreck was? Did he really not seriously consider Niko would kill him instead? Why not just send Niko to shoot him in the park when hes passed out or something?
Derrick would either die by niko or a drug overdose and i still think to this day the revenge ending was the true ending i choose it cause I'm a huge fan of punisher cause he took revenge on criminals to
8:41 N.O.O.S.E was so much better and gta 4 was the best complete game than gta V from the storyline to online agree to disagree for a game that's 10 years old god bless rockstar for this masterpiece
Even though Derrick betrayed Bucky, Aiden and maybe a lot more people, he would deserve to live rather than bent cop, who has been bigger thief and asshole than the rest of them
Francis wasn’t joking when he said Derrick is already dead...
Why do I keep seeing you?
WHY ARE YOU EVERYWHERE
But he seems to go clean after Aiden dies
True but Francis is awful he’s a corrupt person that only cares about his job and not his family and though The family are thugs they’re honest about what they do.
@@skollandhati9961 lol, i think you didnt understand the full details of his family
Francis might be a corrupted cop and an a hole but his cause are noble but in dirty ways
He isnt like Tenpenny doing drug deals and sold everyone and corrupted everyone out
He cared about his family, even if he means he dont care, he promised to his mother that he'll try to be a good son by caring his family, and yet he did, how? He didnt put them down in the first place
Gerald on the other hand got caught and nothing he can do about it, he could've put him down in the first place but he didnt, plus he always look after them by not putting them down
He cared about his family too, unlike Derrick
He never wanted to kill Derrick in the first place but since hes threatening his brother to the journalist in the first place, so he have no other choice but to kill him
He even regret order a hit to his brother, Derrick like he mentions during phonecall after the Blood Brothers mission as he knows, his mother wouldn't want this, unlike Derrick
Derrick however, is a rat, selling everyone out even his brother, Francis after what he has done for him, he always involved in some crime and always messed up people's lives including his former allies that have already suffered, he dont even care about his family as he just gone keep hiding whenever theres a trouble like in Undertaker mission
He always cause problems, which probably cause his family in danger which makes Francis worried as theres a hit on Derrick's head by the mafia
And hes a meth junkie, he eventually die anyway
He might play nice to you, but hes fooling you, thats just a mask to cover his real skin
Even in Undertaker mission, he always flee like Francis said whenever theres a trouble
Hes nowhere to be found after the cutscene and didnt bother to help his family flee from the scene, hes hiding like a coward he is whenever theres trouble unlike Francis who safely escorted his family away from the scene
Derrick is some insane troublemaker meth guy try to cause some trouble in for himself while Francis trying to clean up the mess in dirty ways
Hes the one brought this on himself, hes should be dead, not Francis
Imagine if Derrick is the one order the hit, he wouldn't cared, nor regret, unlike Francis
Hes worse than you even think
If you kill Francis, Niko sits beside Derrick in the church.
If you kill Derrick, Niko walks past Francis in the church.
Says something.
Indeed as Niko is pissed at Francis for asking him to off his own brother, Francis's bro that is.
I’m surprised he didn’t walk past Derrick too, he’s a rat and he’s ashamed of it clearly because he lies about it
@@timmyreyes1993 Yeah, says Niko despised being used as a tool to do dirty work...and dispose of the brother Francis isn't himself brave enough to kill.
I’m not a fan of Derrick but Francis was such an unlikeable slimeball that killing him was less about helping Derrick and more about sticking it to Francis
@@GokanSaki You see, Derrick is basically the same as Darko, only not in relation to Niko. He also betrayed his friends which led to them being killed. Francis is just a corrupt cop and not a very good human being, but over time I tend to think more and more that Derrick is worse.
The way Derrick handled things during the heist sold me on the Blood Brothers-choice; he actually cared a bit for the victims and the casualties in the bank, and wanted things to go smoothly. While Francis wouldn't think another second of stomping down those who oppose him. Even as a drug-riddled wreck, he still has a semblance of integrity, and that's... almost commendable.
SweetWheatsy he wasn’t a bad person, just made a lot of bad decisions. Only bad things about him were his addiction and selling out his friends
I agree, he handled the bank heist well and I liked that he actually cared about them. Derrick wasn't a bad person he just made some bad decisions. I also spared Derrick during blood brothers and shot Francis.
I guess I can say one thing, Derrick has more of a heart than most of the people I’ve had to deal with.
Choose Derrick so their mom won't have to bury 3 of her children
For me, killing Derrick just makes logical sense since he was like Darko and ratted on his friends once before, who's to say he wouldn't do it again?
Bank robbery in gta 4 with Derrick and Packie was awesome. Good memories ever. Heat style
Zachary Damian but St Michael died ): the heist would be much better if he didn't die
DaKiller Gaming yeah. Poor saint Michael. Didn’t see it coming. Witnessed his death in gta 4 and the ballad of gay tony. Wish he wasn’t shot.
Remember that Michael dies in Heat too?
P.S. recently passed this mission from the 7th try only
@@AndriiViktorov 7th try? Are you playing legitimately or using cheats?
The best mission.
Ah... nostalgia. Still can't belive I'm watching and PLAYING Gta 4 in 2018.
Alex it's such a great game
Alex no shame about that. All of us are. Kkk
@@kallyabalem9943 why u is from kkk?
2020 bro
2020, nearly completed the game for like the 100th time aha
I noticed that Derrick had an irish accent in three leaf clover but in the rest of the missions he sounds way more american.
i noticed too
By that point he just got back from Ireland. But considering he was born and raised in New York/Liberty City, it probably didn't take him long to code-switch back to his American accent.
Could be despite his drug use he’s craftier then he looks. Using a heavy Irish accent during the heist, but maintaining a regular American accent to avoid being identified.
That’s actually not uncommon. My girlfriend is from Nigeria, when we first met I thought she grew up in the U.S. But whenever she’s talking with her family, when something annoys her, or when she finds something amusing, she’ll go back into her Nigerian accent.
I giggle inside every time that happens.
So this is what Niko was up to when he wasn’t bowling with me
He wants to save your life so bad.
Exactly Rom.
While you gamble the money and get into illegal card games
@@zaycarnage2780 The Janitor always clean up
Let's go bowling.
Derrick is easily one of my most favorite characters from GTA. He was truly dedicated to everything he did, be it the cause in Ireland, and also avoiding civilian casualties during the bank heist. He wasn't necessarily a bad person, the only bad things about him were snitching on his friends in order to avoid doing jail time and his drug addiction. He's the most compassionate brother in the family. Derrick's VERY underrated. He deserves waaaay more recognition. He's my most favorite McReary, second is Packie.
He’s my favourite McReary too.
He actually regret snitching his friends, which is why he's still a better person than francis. Francis is pretty much worse than his brothers because he loves deluding himself that he's a good person.
How was he truly dedicated to the cause if he preferred betreying his comrades to jail time lol
Pp mlm 1f2l
I just wish besides the tunnel mission his missions were more fun, most sucked compared to francis missions.
You know it's funny how the bank robbery was never mentioned or planned out with Niko beforehand and the all just winged it and succeeded. Then next game, ever heist is planned out to a T, with a nerdy hacker genius having to be there to help out.
It's the smartest way to go about it.
They just added it for realistic heist planning. This robbery was more of a winging it situation
Barely made it out
Niko was just a gunman so he didn't need much briefing
I like to think this heist was reason the ones in 5 are a lot more complicated and thought out. It kind of makes sense as bank robberies were an easy lick before the 2000s.
"I'm honest about me demons"
Striraid "hit the needle on the old head did I Derrick"
@@Khadafi_1986 really michael, you don't think I know that
@@jimfitzgerald7393 I thought you died Jim?
A motto I try to live by tbh. I ain't got a drug problem like Derrick or anything like that, but everyone has their troubles and I think it's good to be honest about them. Both to others and oneself
19:00 Someone give this guy an Oscar 😄
Fact: Derrick actually dies regardless of the players decision
How do u know? rockstar never specified his death all we know by packie is that he's dead all the people who always say that are the people who would rather have francis dead and don't say shit thats assumed but never confirmed
Yourz Truly When you meet packie in gta 5, he mentions Derrick, then says “God rest his soul” which implies he’s dead by then
@@Dirtydan-oy4fi umm no he said "god rest his soul" not bless.
@@Dirtydan-oy4fi gta5 packie is a joke, he doesn't even look like the real packie and doesn't talk like him either,
Yourz Truly ur point ? Derrick is still dead
funny how derrick yells during the boat ride, but niko is talking in a normal tone
Niko is a badass.
Derrick is right when he says PE4 instead of C4
Haha 😂 😂 haha 😆 😆
Is that a IRA thing?
@@speedking7224 No it's a British thing, the American's call it "Compound 4", the British call it "Plastic Explosive No.4"
@@ShasOSwoll oh I thought IRA had made their own equivalent to c4
@@ShasOSwoll Not exactly. PE4 uses a different plasticiser to C4 so they're not actually the same thing. Very similar, but not the same.
I always liked Derrick for some reason. I feel like he would have turned out well if not for his upbringing and drug abuse.
The same could've said to gerry and packie. Francis is a complete slimeball though according to packie.
I chose Derrick over Francis because Francis was blackmailing you into killing his brother. That's low. Derrick never asked you to kill Francis. Niko sits with Derrick at the funeral and won't sit with Francis.
Exactly! Also, Derrick is by far the most compassionate McReary. Also, Derrick just wants to close the book on his past, nothing more, so he’s harmless. Francis and his corruption is crippling the city therefore is a real threat to justice. I understand that killing Aiden wasn’t nice, but at least he was a crook, whereas Francis wants Niko to kill Tom Goldberg, a lawyer who aspired to expose many corrupt police officers and government officials, I felt REALLY bad after killing him.
Yeah, you should've done Francis, not Derrick. Both Playboy and Francis did blackmail Niko into killing Dwayne and Derrick, but Dwayne and Derrick never ordered Niko to kill Playboy and Francis because Dwayne and Derrick had more morals than Playboy and Francis and Niko makes his own decisions whether to decide: Good morals or bad morals.
That sounds like a joke. He was still on the coke in LC.
@Sherman483
That guy at 36:45 heard the whole conversation lmao
Keve Tóth KKKKKKK
Lol he was being so nosy he almost fell down the steps
HAHAHAHA TRUEEE
He was very invested in that conversation
He must be one of the ULP spies tasked with looking out for Niko.
The first time that i did the Mission, i was wondering who kill, so i did a reason, Kill a Crooked Cop (for then use him), or kill a Drug Addict with a miserable life, with no exchange.
This is why i love the choses that the game gave to you, this one is complicated cuz whatever thing you do is wrong.
GTA 4 is the best game i ever played, Fuck...
A lot of the choices in this game don't matter, but this one really does. Even if you shoot Francis, Derrick still dies of an overdose. (Reason why you cannot call him)
@@TheChosenMoose01 No the reason why you can't call him is because his number disappears from niko's phone like almost all phone numbers at the end of storyline so it doesn't mean he died then
@@kvcper66 It actually does. Playboy's number dissapears if you kill him, I believe Faustin's also dissapears, list goes on.
@Johnny Steve Nothing. However, irregardless of whom you kill, Derrick still dies. So let me ask. Should mama Mcreary lose only 1 son or 2?
@@TheChosenMoose01
If he ends up dying of an overdose, it's better to just kill him then in Blood Brothers.
George Feaster did a good job for voice acting Derrick Mcreary
Niko is the greatest doom to the McReary family specially when you choose the Revenge ending
Damn, the voice acting was so good in this game, 19:04 that little breakdown about Bucky sligo was chilling when I replayed this game last week
Gotta love this full week of GTA 4 uploads
3 eyes no balls and a club foot, packie always had the best dialog next to luis lopez when hanging around mori.
The bank heist in GTA IV was better than all the GTA V heists combined. This is mainly due to the better gunplay, physics and story surrounding it.
Storywise I disagree. In GTA V the heists were planned better and they usually had a reason why they did the heists.
In GTA IV they just ran trough the city killing hundreds of cops, only for 500k. It felt unrealistic, unplanned and an overall overkill for a small prize.
I like gunplay in GTA V more due to the variety of the weapons and realistic damage output, but GTA IV has far better physics which makes the overall gameplay superior to V.
@@TrolledBy Irrelevant comment. Take this L
@@kesseli_guy95couldn't resist precious iv getting some criticism smh
@@kesseli_guy95nah he got a point tho! They both are pretty cool, but gta iv is awesome
why dont you just combine gta 5 heists with GTA 4 mechanics? mods do your job.
32:00 Niko is having a "little scratch"
How doesn't this guy already have 100000 subs? He deserves at least 2 million subs!
5 years later and this still isn't true unfortunately.
no one nowadays is interested in him
I always choose to shoot Francis over Derrick.
MoviesNGames007uk same in my first playthrough, derrick feels more of a family member than francis
Francis is funny, but Derrick is very miserble and if you kill him and put him out of his miserble life, he can finally Rest in peace better than living and suffering.
King The Son put it other ways - after storyline is finished, Niko can live in peace with powerful friends apart, such as UL Paper (CIA) and... police commissioner Francis McReary from LCPD.
A perfect life for an ex-GTA protagonist ;)
MoviesNGames007uk well Derrick mentioned died in gta v because overdose.
Killing him is better than letting him betray everyone for drugs
Just like Darko
MoviesNGames007uk i chose the 40 k over derrick
I usually kill Francis because it makes me feel bad killing Derrick after the bank heist.
Same here i would have chosen Francis when i was 18 going 19 then Derrick would have gone to a journalist and talk about his family to i would have used my head also eyes and brains like batman to
Yeah I really loved doing The Bank Robbery with Packie and Derrick I also killed Francis
I'm going to get a lot of hate but Derrick was the brother I hated the most. He is a junkie, a traitor, a snitch and a mess, I honestly see no redeeming qualities in him. Fracnis is crooked and hypocritical but at least he does something useful for the community and he is probably the only son who keeps his mother happy with his career choice. Gerry is the man, I think he is basically like the father figure for everyone in the family, now that their actual father has died, and I'm sure he is just like his father was minus drunken abuse. Packie is a fun guy and a good friend. Unfortunately, Derrick is doomed, by himself and his choices, so it was only a matter of time.
FlymanMS honestly Francis is a hypocrite and alot of GTA players hate him. But honestly outside of him being a crooked cop. When you look at the other people he killed they were all scumbags. The dealer was going to kill niko anyways. When you think of it Francis does good things.
I don't really think there was supposed to be a flat-out "good" choice. Neither Derrick nor Francis are exactly what would constitute as "good people", and it's more of a matter of who you end up relating to the most. Derrick was a complete mess with how he treated his body and others in his past. He sold out his old compatriots and just wants it all to be done so he can take his drugs in peace, and is in such bad of shape that he isn't even a consideration for taking care of Packie's mom if Kate dies. Francis was a self-righteous hypocrite who is more than willing to assassinate people who would give him a bad name, and was mostly implied just to "clean up the streets" just for the fame and recognition he'd get to it, rather than because he actually thought it'd make peoples' lives better.
The biggest difference is that Francis directly intimidates Niko, and tries to essentially blackmail him into doing whatever it is he needs done that the regular LCPD can't do, while Niko helps Derrick mostly out of pity for what he has become. This is completely supported by how Niko was rewarded for who he chose to kill; killing Francis had no material upside to it. He didn't get a single dime for choosing Derrick over Francis, just any sense of satisfaction he'd get out of offing someone who tried to bully him. Francis obviously has the resources necessary to reimburse Niko for what he had done, and saw Derrick as nothing but a disgrace to his name, so he thought just to sever the link to him, no matter the consequences of how his greater family would feel about Derrick's death.
Point being, none of them are really good people when you look at it; the difference is that Francis is so crooked he could swallow nails and spit out corkscrews, but because he's gunning for police chief, he could do a lot of good for the average person in Liberty City, especially considering the context of The Lost-AoD gang wars and the conflicts between the Rascalov Mafiya and The Commission. Derrick's more sympathizable, and it's because he's been laid so low but still treats Niko with some modicum of respect unlike the condescending, self-righteous sneering that always comes from Francis' mouth, he doesn't look as bad, even if his actions don't support that he's necessarily a better person.
Great analysis, thank you for your comment.
You said it man, I couldn't have said it better myself.
Francis is a cop so...
Honestly, didn’t mind taking out people for Derrick until Aiden. Derrick ratted on him first so he owed him no loyalty, and he had him killed just to save his sorry ass.
It's been discussed dozens of times, but here are MY reasons to kill Francis instead of Derrick:
1) Francis constantly threatened and blackmailed Nicko, while Derrick treated him with respect.
2) It seemed like their family would miss Derrick more.
3) When these two said, that they are not saint, Derrick seemed to be more sincere and repentant.
4) One crooked cop seemed to be worse for a society, than one junky crook. Especially if Francis would have become a commissioner.
The boat is going so slow to listen to the dialogue, and Niko is talking at a regular tone of voice while Derrick is screaming in his ear lol
The first scene where Niko meets Derrick in the park was absolutely incredible voice work by Derrick’s voice actor. He clearly put so much depth and emotion into his role in just that scene alone and it’s one of the game’s most memorable cutscenes for me because of that.
Ah nostalgia again Three leaf clover was a great mission to play first time.
One of the best missions.
I like how if you kill Francis, Derrick just gets up and calmly walks away like its no big deal
Racedude82jr because it isn’t Francis had it coming
@@yoshpeters3079 Oh yeach? I don't think so.
that transition from gta4 to tbogt was so clean lmao
Derrick has to be one of the most iconic characters in all of GTA.
28:53
the facial expressions though.
😂 funny shit
Francis loves to make himself out to be the saint of the brothers but he’s just as bad as them, only in a different way.
He's actually worse cuz he's a cop. At least his criminal brothers dont pretend that theyre good people.
@@setro5582 true I’d prefer someone straight up
Derrick is just as big a hypocrite. He pretends he's this loyal idealist. When he's really just a snitching traitor.
@@willcardona7712 At least he didn't betrayed his family and didn't abandon them like Francis did, and how is Derrick a hypocrite lol? he said it himself that he did bad shit but he's honest about it and he also looks like he regrets what he did, probably that's the reason why he kept getting high, he mentions that he gets high so he would stop caring, i think he refers to his past actions.
Francis is way worse in any way than Derrick.
@@notyourdaddude1957 He lied to Niko about Bucky and Aiden. He claimed that they snitched him out, when it was really him that snitched them out. Then he had Niko kill them both. Him getting high and stoned to stop caring refer to both his past and present actions. Thanks to the magic of drugs, he can shit on anybody and everybody and not feel guilty about it. As for him not betraying his family, that's up for serious debate. See the video entitled "Who Really Ratted Out Gerry McReary And Why? GTA 4 Lore Explained" for more details. On a final note, in the funeral mission when Derrick is killed and the funeral gets shot up, Francis at least protects his mother and drives her away from the danger. In the same mission when Francis is killed and the funeral gets shot up, some stranger drives his mother away from the danger. Derrick was nowhere to be found. He probably ran away. Derrick may seem noble on the outside. But when the chips are down, he will always save himself first. For him, it's all about saving his own ass and scoring his next fix, no matter who he has to betray or kill to do it.
For those who don't know, to *"grass"* is to snitch.
If you noticed the funeral of Derrick, Packie is actually sad when most of us killed Francis Packie looks bored
6:36 I love this wink for upcoming The Ballad of Gay Tony. ;)
And Luis: ¡Diablos, qué mierda! at 7:52. :P
7:40 A minute of silence for Saint Michael. Requiescat in Pace.
Great work, man.
¡Gracia', papi whatever! ;)
Qué? : )
genjuro3185 Diablo quie míenda.Shit
44:41
oh shit me brother just got shot, time to make a call on the phone
Niko: Well, Tell Him To Be Quiet
Francis: I Am Trying To Become The Commissioner Of Police
33:48
Praise the thunbnail
Ironic how they never discovered the truth behind Derrick's death and who was the culprit behind it all.
I used a cop cheat to make the heist interesting. Also don't use a RPG on the Things at the stairs because they will glitch out and will kill either Derrick or Packie
The reason I chose Derrick is because he was just going mad and was always paranoid. Death set him free.
And I enjoy the fact that Francis has to live with the fact that he hired a hitman to kill his own brother.
40:00 such a sad moment
I choose francis funeral
Niko: Open the door
Derrick: OpEn ThE dOoR!i!
Open this fucking dor.
@@princesslightningstrike4592 ok ok wait a minute I got it *opens the door*
@@cirosflyingpizzahernandez8137 Niko: GET ON THE FLOOR!! NOWWW !!!!
@@jaydenedwards6766 But sir
@@cirosflyingpizzahernandez8137 YOU TOO
Did anyone else notice them taking turns to snort coke, in Three Leaf Clover?
"fuck it. lets do it before the crank wears off"
Notice how Niko sat next to Derrick at the funeral compared to a separate row from Francis?
Yeah nobody wanted to sit with that junkie Derrick ,Niko had only that seat left to sit
Shank Bhardwaj I would rather hang with Derrick than Francis.
@@yoshpeters3079 I would prefer Francis
@@araxoshine-princessofevil7675 Probably not possible since Niko hates Francis and sees Derrick as a good associate
@@icycappuccino But I'm not Niko.
idc if derrick dies after gta 4 and before 5, i'd still save him anyway
You’ll have 100k soon!
I wish he could live forever.
BIG MOOD OMG
Cause derrick dies regardless even if you kill Francis, It is mentioned by packie in GTA 5 that derrick is dead possibly due to drug or alcohol overdose.(or if killing derrick is the canon choice.)
I love this game but that bank heist had to be the messiest heist ever pulled in the city LOL they musta gunned down half the force and they didn’t even get all the money in the safe
And they didnt get caught
This is quality content.
Am I the only one who noticed that he switched to TBoGT cutscene when gun club member was speaking?
I noticed it as well.
I like that Packiw, Gerald, and Mike are roasting each other while Derrick is just laughing at it
Such a beautiful game.
Derrick did have friends he had
adone Omally who was 49 but no longer a friend and he dies
Sligo bucky who was 51.5 but on longer a friend but he dies
Niko was 30.5
And probably more
Derrick was actually 54
I like Derrick better but from Niko's perspective I'd say Derrick should go. If you like a miserable man with regrets about his life and dislike crooked cop, sure, knock Francis's dome off we go. However, Derrick's a snitch. He would betray anyone for junk and to avoid doing time. In fact, Niko himself has an intense loathing for snitches. People often cite how Derrick and Dwayne are the ones who felt the danger and ask Niko to look out for them rather than telling him to off someone on their behalf (Playboy X and Francis) but this point often overlooked how Niko refused to kill Dwayne at first because Playboy X is betraying Dwayne. I think Niko learned his lesson after offing Faustin on behalf of Dimitri. Now Francis is no saint but he is straight with Niko when asking him to do the dirty work. Plus we can blackmail him back at the end so that's that for revenge.
Eugene Reaper....I dunno why this makes me laugh so hard
As much as I like Derrick, I still chose to kill him. The guy is in his 50s and has all these problems. And despite him talking about making things right, I can’t help but notice all the stories where he does betray people to save himself. Francis is a bastard, but at least he’s honest with you about it, plus you get something out of it. Also, in GTA 5, Packie mentions Derrick is dead either way, which is 5 years after GTA 4, so even if you spare him he dies not long after anyway.
2020 and i still play Grand Theft Auto IV yeah
Me too. Beat it once on Xbox 360 in 2008, now beating it again on PS3
it has such a nice replay value
Derricks heroin problem sadly distracted people from seeing the good man he really was.
RIP Derrick McReary 1956-2008. Killed by Niko at the behest of Francis McReary his own brother. RIP Michael Kane 1979-2008 friend and henchman of the Irish family.
@Barone niko killing francis actually makes sense, given his reaction on "blood brothers" (by telling francis to phak off and i will hit who im aiming at), and the fact he would sit beside derrick but not on francis on "undertaker" (on this mission, if you kill francis, only mrs. Mcreary is the only one who miss him).
@Barone yeah derrick is still a better person than francis, even though he was a snitch (he actually regret doing that even though he still silenced his old pals, unlike francis who was so deluded that he thinks he's a good person). there are people who actually thought that derrick's worse cuz he's a rat. If that's true, then steve haines is a better person than michael cuz he's a rat and a criminal while haines is fed.
@Barone also, kiki's ability stays after playing the story. Which is better than francis' ability (it disappears after finishing the main storyline).
@Barone do you also play gta sa? If you do, im curious if u find kickstart hard. Cuz that side mission is preventing me from getting 100 percent, i find it too hard.
No one knows how he really died because Packie didn't specified it.
"I'm awake. I was just wishing you'd leave" is way too relatable.
41:40 the guy who was running into the car door during a shootout 😂 gotta love GTA IV physics
BTW on gta v during the paleto bay heist if u bring packie along he will mention dereck and niko
Even though Francis is a jack ass he does give u the benefit of calling him whenever niko is wanted by the police
GTA IV is The Matrix of videogames.
Like if you agree
Congrats on 100k subs
The transitions between GTA4 and TBOGT were smooth as hell
awesome video whatever
If you guys can stop arguing for a few minutes then I think we will be okay
I love Niko.
Derrick didn't deserve to die but he was a good role model as the eldest of his siblings
Is PE4 a real name? And is it C4?
I just looked, according to a very brief look at Wikipedia. PE-4 (Plastic Explosive No. 4) is an explosive that's like C-4 but not quite the same. It's used by the British Military. So it's essentially British C-4.
Couldn't tell you the difference but Derrick's right to insist it's different.
Noice job m8. Not all heroes wear capes.
Its PE-4 NOT C4
This is C4.
@@princesslightningstrike4592 Packie we talked about this
according to the police data base, Derrick, indeed, sold out his cohorts
Just by hearing francis saying that he is the better brother out of all the brothers,he disgusts me,out of the brothers,i feel sorry towards derrick
Anyone else realize how stupid Francis' plan to kill Derreck was? Did he really not seriously consider Niko would kill him instead? Why not just send Niko to shoot him in the park when hes passed out or something?
20:35 Living, Dead, Good, Bad, Right, Wrong, Chalk, Cheese…
I cant believe I spared a dead man walking
Why does Derrick remind me of Uncle Max from Lion King 1 1/2???
😆
Francis and Packie are the sanest of the brothers.
You heard the man, put it away!
32:19 I hate this part of the story. I'm with the man dying all the way, I'm all for what he stood up for. Aiden a martyr, Derrick a degenerate.
Derrick McReary is my favorite character from GTA IV
Derrick would either die by niko or a drug overdose and i still think to this day the revenge ending was the true ending i choose it cause I'm a huge fan of punisher cause he took revenge on criminals to
No civilian casualties everyone when they found out luis was in the bank
Mr.BigEyes
8:41 N.O.O.S.E was so much better and gta 4 was the best complete game than gta V from the storyline to online agree to disagree for a game that's 10 years old god bless rockstar for this masterpiece
What was the song with the bagpipes in this video?
3:15
Derrick's dirty hands.
99 thousand subscribers!
Even though Derrick betrayed Bucky, Aiden and maybe a lot more people, he would deserve to live rather than bent cop, who has been bigger thief and asshole than the rest of them
At least Francis is useful and is good to have in your back pocket. Derrick is only a liability
Derrick looks so old.
And that's on drugs,chile
@@juulcat5737 He had 52 years old. That's explains everything.
He's a dilf
Please do all Michael Keane scenes
His death was sad, I wanted him to live
Gta 4 is the best one I've played