I'm sure Liszt would be more impressed by this performance than the negative commenters. This is good form of Liszt playing- listen to recordings from Liszt's pupils and you will find that it was common practice to add embellishments and take rhythmic liberties as Cziffra does quite convincingly here.
@@bikemike1118 not exactly, if you have tried playing this piece you would know how utterly insane it is at this tempo, a fast an arguably unnecessary tempo to bring out the emotions in the piece, yet he does it flawlessly, taking a huge risk in terms of technically but he is clearly an incredible pianist
Martha Argerich a témoigné et dit avoir entendu sur disque 33 tours dans sa jeunesse G.Cziffra, et en a parlé à son professeur qui a répondu nonchalamment, mais non des bons pianistes il y en a beaucoup.. Elle a cherché en vain d’autres artistes de ce calibre et n’en a jamais trouvé, répétant que son jeu et sa technique étaient exceptionnels. Nous en avons encore ici la preuve. J’ai eu la chance de le voir 7 ou 8 fois en concert et même de pouvoir discuter avec lui pendant près d’une heure ( il avait le temps) un après midi à Senlis, heureux hasard 😊
M Argerich n'est plus une référence , prodigieuse géniale pianiste elle a délaissé en fait le piano solo pour d'orchestre , sa Discographie sera surtout la pianiste avec orchestre ; elke n'a pas comme les pianistes légendaires un compositeur specifique en piano solo , des ouevres de jeunesse Argerich cest avant tout pour sa Discographie une pianiste jouant avec orchestre , faut oas rever maus voir ka réalité
@@marksmith3947 his hands were damaged as he was persecuted by the then regime do maybe he had to use his hands in a particular way - when you hear him play it is difficult to believe he only had 10 fingers .
@AVIDEOGAL You're delusional. Watts was world famous. Hailed by music critics everywhere. He played every major concert hall in the world. Made best-selling albums. Was on Live from Lincoln Center on PBS numerous times. At age 18, Leonard Bernstein featured him on the TV show young people's concert. Watts was one of the greatest pianists of all time! Listen to him play Liszt, Beethoven, Schubert. Gershwin and others. Perhaps it's the color of his skin you don't like?
@@roncaruso931 I AGREE, I LOVE WATTS, I PAID COLD HARD CASH TO SEE HIM IN CONCERT IN PASADENA, YEARS AGO.....I SAID "NOT ANYMORE" ONLY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT HE JUST DIED..... VERY UNFORTUNATELY.....
Isn't that beautiful, how much thought, emotion and complexity these pieces bring, hosting even more details to unravel as the listener with each playback? How fortunate we are to replay as much as we want, imagine back in the days where performances were done only a couple of times
Je me demande si cette homme comprends à quel point il a un impact dans le monde de la musique classique. Cette homme est une légende et je n'ai pas l'impression qu'il s'en rend compte. Il bouleverse le coeur des gens. C'est un pouvoir que très peu de musiciens peuvent réellement faire à ce niveau là.
Liszt was the best, cziffra was the best playing Liszt, even at live performance he showed off .no one can badly comment on them both. If you are a 1/4 as good as them which not many are U can comment badly , let's see you play that piece that fast and sharp at he's age..
Do love Cziffra! Yes it’s impulsive, a bit wild and messy, but it’s totally compelling because Cziffra believes and feels with total conviction. There’s no doubt who is playing. I could listen to dozens of modern pianists and have no idea who they are coz they are all the same (and no this is not serving the music !!). And for fun here is a younger Cziffra in the same piece. It’s a bit different, more lyrical, more controlled, still very impassioned and exciting ua-cam.com/video/2ifVI_-lKiI/v-deo.html
Cziffra is very much like Paganini---you get an uncanny feeling he may have sold his soul to the devil to be able to sizzle the keys w such a cascade of molten hot lava....... inimitable. Horowitz used to complain about not being able to do what Cziffra could 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
OVERALL I LOVE CZIFFRA, FOR ALL HIS PYROTECHNICS AND POWER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS A DRINKER, BUT HIS PLAYING REMINDS ME OF SOMEONE SLURRING THEIR SPEECH SOMETIMES, AND AT SOME POINTS HE'S JUST TOO FAST, AND BLURS OVER A LOT OF GOOD MUSIC 🎵🎶, BUT HE HAS A LOT OF REALLY POWERFUL PROFOUND IDEAS AT OTHER POINTS, BUT LIKE A DRUNK HE SLURS A LOT OF HIS SPEECH AND SPEEDILY MISPRONOUNCES A LOT OF STUFF TOO !!! TOTALLY UNIQUE AND GIFTED ARTIST IN ANY CASE, BUT NOT QUITE THE OVERALL PERFECTION OF KISSIN !!! BUT STILL A SUPERFREAK NO DOUBT ABOUT IT !!!
Ι always wonder if all those who criticise negatively Cziffra's and Richter's playing in these etudes, which is coming from another world, as "butchered" and "with mistakes". They simply can't understand the temperament of each pianist.
Sauf que Richter lui-même ne s'interdisait pas de massacrer par exemple Horowitz avec un côté pourfendeur de pianistes à fausses notes et interprétations trop peu meticuleuses...
Arrau's rendition of this etude is just as fiery, I would dare say more, while still being in control in every musical way. And without the wrong notes
This wonderful study has beautiful poetic moments that get short shrift in this performance. Cziffra was a master, but too often seems to go for the "show". The short notes (after the dotted notes are clipped, though most pianists do this). Arrau is the most satisfying pianist I've heard in these etudes. With him the passion is is there, but it never swamps the poetry. I will continue to listen to Cziffra because I know what a master he is and he doesn't 't have a choice over what some of his admirers choose to post. Thank you anyway!
I do prefer this taking : ua-cam.com/video/2ifVI_-lKiI/v-deo.html, but I like the improvised end of this one too. He used to play this one or the other here ...
basically he's saying that he's honored about being in the Royal Chapel, which will become the Franz Liszt Auditorium, and the two other guys are saying that it would be good to listen to a recording that they made with George before ending the broadcast. Then it cuts to the Liszt recording
Butchered is a strong word as I'm sure Cziffra genuinely felt this music should proceed with fire and passion. Unfortunately he could rarely resist completely crazy speeds and thus frequently gave performances which were not always wholly convincing. A great pianist and a very nice man indeed but tempo control was generally his achilles' heel.
This is more or less the accepted tempo for the piece though 😅 I think there's actually a slightly faster recording out there that's better. And I wouldn't wanna criticise a Hungarian for their musicality...
I've never heard anyone improvise over this piece until I heard this recording. I think he's just improvising the phrasing as well, putting his own spin on it which makes it sound kind of weird. I really enjoyed his added figures and flourishes but the phrasing was better as Liszt wrote it imo
i know he can play FAST and loud anything written for the piano. YET....IMHO he BASHES everything out lacking the kind of use of dynamics and rase shaping that HOROWITX would do...or SHISKIN...or GILELS.I truly avoid listening to this pianist. Listen to TRIFONOV play the same piece.
@@Matthaley2626 he was much older here, but remember that he was also a composer and was taught by a favourite student of franz Liszt. As far as I’m concerned his rendition here is 100x better then anything you could play Matt
I'm sure Liszt would be more impressed by this performance than the negative commenters. This is good form of Liszt playing- listen to recordings from Liszt's pupils and you will find that it was common practice to add embellishments and take rhythmic liberties as Cziffra does quite convincingly here.
Cziffra is a great risk taker especially on 'live' TV. The fire and fury of his playing is thrilling.
Why ‚risk taker‘..?
@@bikemike1118 no room for errors at this tempo, yet he is flawless
@@tm-ti3gg …well, well …everybody playing live is a ‚risk taker‘ then by that definition
@@bikemike1118 not exactly, if you have tried playing this piece you would know how utterly insane it is at this tempo, a fast an arguably unnecessary tempo to bring out the emotions in the piece, yet he does it flawlessly, taking a huge risk in terms of technically but he is clearly an incredible pianist
@@tm-ti3gg I get what he is saying though. At most any tempo this piece is a risk to take on live tv.
Not a huge fan of Liszt but Czziffra is no doubt one of the most technically gifted pianists I've ever heard.
Martha Argerich a témoigné et dit avoir entendu sur disque 33 tours dans sa jeunesse G.Cziffra, et en a parlé à son professeur qui a répondu nonchalamment, mais non des bons pianistes il y en a beaucoup.. Elle a cherché en vain d’autres artistes de ce calibre et n’en a jamais trouvé, répétant que son jeu et sa technique étaient exceptionnels. Nous en avons encore ici la preuve. J’ai eu la chance de le voir 7 ou 8 fois en concert et même de pouvoir discuter avec lui pendant près d’une heure ( il avait le temps) un après midi à Senlis, heureux hasard 😊
M Argerich n'est plus une référence , prodigieuse géniale pianiste elle a délaissé en fait le piano solo pour d'orchestre , sa Discographie sera surtout la pianiste avec orchestre ; elke n'a pas comme les pianistes légendaires un compositeur specifique en piano solo , des ouevres de jeunesse Argerich cest avant tout pour sa Discographie une pianiste jouant avec orchestre , faut oas rever maus voir ka réalité
Cziffra was a phenomenal talent but he also had some special exercises for developing finger strength. I doubt many people could reproduce his pianism
@@marksmith3947 his
hands were damaged as he was persecuted by the then regime do maybe he had to use his hands in a particular way -
when you hear him play it is difficult to believe he only had 10 fingers .
Cziffra was simply the reincarnation of Liszt! !!
Please!! Watch Andre Watts. Power and perfection.
@@roncaruso931- NOT ANYMORE !!!
@AVIDEOGAL You're delusional. Watts was world famous. Hailed by music critics everywhere. He played every major concert hall in the world. Made best-selling albums. Was on Live from Lincoln Center on PBS numerous times. At age 18, Leonard Bernstein featured him on the TV show young people's concert. Watts was one of the greatest pianists of all time! Listen to him play Liszt, Beethoven, Schubert. Gershwin and others. Perhaps it's the color of his skin you don't like?
@@roncaruso931 I AGREE, I LOVE WATTS, I PAID COLD HARD CASH TO SEE HIM IN CONCERT IN PASADENA, YEARS AGO.....I SAID "NOT ANYMORE" ONLY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT HE JUST DIED..... VERY UNFORTUNATELY.....
@@AVIDEOGAL Tis most sad indeed.
I keep coming back to this interpretation, and every time I notice something new that I've missed in my previous listen
Isn't that beautiful, how much thought, emotion and complexity these pieces bring, hosting even more details to unravel as the listener with each playback?
How fortunate we are to replay as much as we want, imagine back in the days where performances were done only a couple of times
4:45 only Cziffra...
Immense clarté dans la transcendance de cette étude. Magnifique.
I just listened to Pogorelich play the same piece in 1990, before he lost the ability to play. Even so there is no comparison. Cziffra was a god
Gosh darn it!! What an awesome perfoermance!! 😊 Love it
Una maravilla. Gracias
Not background music. Honey, look what I learned today! Pretty stunning technique here.
Magnifique 🤗
Je me demande si cette homme comprends à quel point il a un impact dans le monde de la musique classique. Cette homme est une légende et je n'ai pas l'impression qu'il s'en rend compte. Il bouleverse le coeur des gens. C'est un pouvoir que très peu de musiciens peuvent réellement faire à ce niveau là.
Zgadzam się
Wow!! The left hand passage at 3.45!! 🎉😂❤😂😂
Incredible
Блестящий виртуоз, Мастер своего дела!
Liszt was the best, cziffra was the best playing Liszt, even at live performance he showed off .no one can badly comment on them both. If you are a 1/4 as good as them which not many are U can comment badly , let's see you play that piece that fast and sharp at he's age..
Do love Cziffra! Yes it’s impulsive, a bit wild and messy, but it’s totally compelling because Cziffra believes and feels with total conviction. There’s no doubt who is playing. I could listen to dozens of modern pianists and have no idea who they are coz they are all the same (and no this is not serving the music !!).
And for fun here is a younger Cziffra in the same piece. It’s a bit different, more lyrical, more controlled, still very impassioned and exciting
ua-cam.com/video/2ifVI_-lKiI/v-deo.html
Thanks
Wow, bravo 👏
Una grandissima forza e velocità, per fortuna interrotte dai brevi momenti canta bili, durante i quali si percepiscono le note.
The name of the etude is appassionata, he played with emotion
This sounds intimidating
King !
3:45 nice cadenza
Cziffra moment
Cziffra is very much like Paganini---you get an uncanny feeling he may have sold his soul to the devil to be able to sizzle the keys w such a cascade of molten hot lava....... inimitable. Horowitz used to complain about not being able to do what Cziffra could
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cziffra the emperor above the kings
OVERALL I LOVE CZIFFRA, FOR ALL HIS PYROTECHNICS AND POWER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS A DRINKER, BUT HIS PLAYING REMINDS ME OF SOMEONE SLURRING THEIR SPEECH SOMETIMES, AND AT SOME POINTS HE'S JUST TOO FAST, AND BLURS OVER A LOT OF GOOD MUSIC 🎵🎶, BUT HE HAS A LOT OF REALLY POWERFUL PROFOUND IDEAS AT OTHER POINTS, BUT LIKE A DRUNK HE SLURS A LOT OF HIS SPEECH AND SPEEDILY MISPRONOUNCES A LOT OF STUFF TOO !!! TOTALLY UNIQUE AND GIFTED ARTIST IN ANY CASE, BUT NOT QUITE THE OVERALL PERFECTION OF KISSIN !!!
BUT STILL A SUPERFREAK NO DOUBT ABOUT IT !!!
I agree, usually it's not the preferred version of a piece... But he really teases out unconventional beauty
How, just How!
Yes, it's a mess, but a thrilling mess! For the best of Cziffra in Liszt, listen to his Feux follets and, above all, Jeux d'eau. Thanks for posting.
La musique de Liszt a du souffle! Elle est généreuse comme le vent!
Je ne suis pas français et je ne conprend pas les mots. Quest ce que il a dit?
@@Lordversus44 Vous trouvez mes mots poétiques, c’est cela?
@@superblue3684 Oui. Meme je n'ai pas compri le mot qui Cziffra a dit.
Ι always wonder if all those who criticise negatively Cziffra's and Richter's playing in these etudes, which is coming from another world, as "butchered" and "with mistakes". They simply can't understand the temperament of each pianist.
The UA-camr commentors always amuse me. They speak as though they are gods not men.
Sauf que Richter lui-même ne s'interdisait pas de massacrer par exemple Horowitz avec un côté pourfendeur de pianistes à fausses notes et interprétations trop peu meticuleuses...
Arrau's rendition of this etude is just as fiery, I would dare say more, while still being in control in every musical way. And without the wrong notes
@@playcloudpluspc No, I am not a god, but enough is enough...
@@philtro99 Totally agree, I also like it, but it doesn't include the small improvisations of Cziffra, and it isn't such fast...
nice
Prob my fav version
3:20
3:25 if it was not enight virtuoso cziffra’s ossia…❤❤❤
What a beautiful presence, inhabited music
Oooooooooooh!!! 😮
What is he saying?(Cziffra)
Le piano, instrument de la révolution industrielle .
Sad that this specific recording cant be found on spotify, by far my favourite
This wonderful study has beautiful poetic moments that get short shrift in this performance. Cziffra was a master, but too often seems to go for the "show". The short notes (after the dotted notes are clipped, though most pianists do this). Arrau is the most satisfying pianist I've heard in these etudes. With him the passion is is there, but it never swamps the poetry. I will continue to listen to Cziffra because I know what a master he is and he doesn't 't have a choice over what some of his admirers choose to post. Thank you anyway!
I think Lasar Berman is the best in this etudes...
He definitely puts on the "show" with Chopin Etudes.
@@thewebsapiens No pianist is the "best" with his/her every performance.
@@pianoman551000j don't agree there are interpreters ,ho are the first as here .
Parts of this so sounds reminiscent of Chopin Etude in F min.
Wouah……
Il change de vetements très rapidement!
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I do prefer this taking : ua-cam.com/video/2ifVI_-lKiI/v-deo.html, but I like the improvised end of this one too. He used to play this one or the other here ...
Aldo ciccolini
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basically he's saying that he's honored about being in the Royal Chapel, which will become the Franz Liszt Auditorium, and the two other guys are saying that it would be good to listen to a recording that they made with George before ending the broadcast. Then it cuts to the Liszt recording
not bad
I have 3 words: what's his problem?
😅😅😅😅😅
😂😂Why does the word Ètude make me think I'm listening to Chopin when it's actually Cziffra playing Liszt?
Because you listened to a lot of chopin etudes so you now see etude as chopin?
😂 😮 😊 😢 🎉
Liszt Etudes and Chopin Etudes should move out education system
Butchered is a strong word as I'm sure Cziffra genuinely felt this music should proceed with fire and passion. Unfortunately he could rarely resist completely crazy speeds and thus frequently gave performances which were not always wholly convincing. A great pianist and a very nice man indeed but tempo control was generally his achilles' heel.
Reminds me of Ogden playing Feux Follets - not at all pleasant.
This is more or less the accepted tempo for the piece though 😅
I think there's actually a slightly faster recording out there that's better.
And I wouldn't wanna criticise a Hungarian for their musicality...
If you know better than Cziffra which tempo is the best for studies, I think you don't absolutely understand the music of Franz Liszt
I believe that’s just cziffras playing style, not his weakness, and I like it
I've never heard anyone improvise over this piece until I heard this recording. I think he's just improvising the phrasing as well, putting his own spin on it which makes it sound kind of weird. I really enjoyed his added figures and flourishes but the phrasing was better as Liszt wrote it imo
Day 2 of simply piano
Yunchan Lim is here the new benchmark.
No.
너무나 우아하고 숭고합니다
If speed were all...
I'm sorry but this a rhythmically chaotic performance. Not Cziffra at his best.
powerlifter no music
non mi è piaciuto
Luego escucha la actuación de Trifinov.
@@charlesthomas5956 prendiamo la macchina del tempo e torniamo indietro
impressionante
Many mistakes & that is just what we can hear with his right hand.
Where? 👀
Many mistakes...in your brain !!
show me some of the mistakes
bro acts like he can ever come close to hes playing lmao
Very good pianist, but not an artist.
He’s a show off, not an artist. Awful interpretation. Try using a metronome and quit adding cheap effects.
Honestly, I can’t stand it. Rushing into accents feels so unnatural to me. Also his sound is very unbalanced
i know he can play FAST and loud anything written for the piano. YET....IMHO he BASHES everything out lacking the kind of use of dynamics and rase shaping that HOROWITX would do...or SHISKIN...or GILELS.I truly avoid listening to this pianist. Listen to TRIFONOV play the same piece.
Bro you don't have to get everyone to listen to his rendition, it's just your opinion
@@dragonsoundworldsIt's just his opinion
I do not understand the adoration Trifonov attracts. Sure he plays very well but I don't find him a standout as far as interpretation
@@marksmith3947agree
3min - End absolutely Butched Liszts best Transcendental etude. Missed notes and wrong notes galore
He does miss some notes and he does add some of his notes to it but I don't find that it sounds bad. It sounds incredibly passionate and beautiful.
Are you deaf?
@@kristofkovacs77 If you cant hear the Countless Wrong notes then it is You Sir who is Deaf
@@Matthaley2626 If you cannot ignore the countless wrong notes to appreciate the music then it is you who is unappreciative.
@@Matthaley2626 he was much older here, but remember that he was also a composer and was taught by a favourite student of franz Liszt. As far as I’m concerned his rendition here is 100x better then anything you could play Matt
Why bravo. It was the worst version ive ever heard
bait
Then listen to Trifinov's version
go out from here youtuber !
@@charlesthomas5956too meticulous Trifonov
@alainspiteri502 You said Trifonov's performace was better💀
Weak and rushed performance. Watch Andre Watts. Power and perfection.
Great technique ... awful music
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