@MrMclovin44 I'm not sure those dates are accurate. Don't hold me to this, but I have heard that all the boxes were made then and even the updated crossbows were shipping in those same boxes. I don't have any confirmation of that from the company or anything but I've never heard of a box that didn't have those old 20/20 dates on it
I purchased one late last summer after watching your videos and seeing how well it performed. Got it from Wyvern Creations for $799 and also got a $100.00 rebate from KI. I couldn't be happier with my purchase, I love everything about it and I harvested a 130" 10 pt. with it to top things off. Thanks you Rich for turning me onto this magnificent piece of equipment.
I bought mine about a year ago and got it for $799, free shipping and no tax on a Black Friday 2023 sale. For what I paid for mine I really like it and haven't had any issues with this particular one. It's not my only crossbow so I spread wear and tear usage over 13 other crossbows from other makes and models. I like to shoot mine year round and have backups of backups of a backup so to speak. I'm never out of use of a crossbow because they will never ALL need routine maintenance, setup/tuning or repairs at the same time. I also have loaners for people who tag along and don't own one. Knock on wood.... suppose someone would break into my truck and steal one out of the super cab back. I'm not screwed and can just grab another to use. I'd rather buy them when they are available and or on sale rather than be scrambling for one in a jam and panic when everybody is sold out or wants too much (full price no deals) for them due to the shortage. For what these modern crossbows cost you might not always have the extra cash at the time as well.....they are in fact pretty expensive compared to firearms and knives.
Glad you posted another video, my withdrawal pangs since the last one were getting unbearable. LOL! Can't wait for the press video series! Give us lots of step by step close up views. Woo Hoo!
Your issues with decocking and cranks are similar to what I experienced. That's what drove me to my tenpoint venom-x. Integrated is the best way to do cranks. Super easy to decock after a hunt. We won't talk about why I am so experienced in decocking instead of shooting though...
Hey rich I have to tell u I bought that crossbow after watching all your vids on it and man I love how it feels I thought I might be able to cock it but I guess I don’t have enough strength so I have to use the cocking device which I’m not a fan of but getting use to it and the more I do it it’s easy . The only thing is after shit it quite a bit the trigger feels almost like there is a delay I don’t know how to explain it but I’m going to get in touch with them now season is over and see if something is up . But man do I love this crossbow and I have shot mission sun one which I own and I have a mission charge and a ten point venom but I like the enclosed barrel and the fact that it’s light and small . I love your vids I really look forward to them your awesome !!! Thank you for all the time and dedication hou put into your channel
Broke the string on my fatal X at the end of October and my bow is still in the archery shop waiting on new string, cables and cams from killer instinct. I do love that bow though.
I’m also a excalibur guy (recurve fan). But the only big reason is the maintenance, i love to make my own strings and shoot nearly every day. Maybe someday there’s a compound crossbow with easy maintenance, a new kind of construction would be awesome.
I bought a swat X1 last year Rich after watching your videos. First impressions were awesome, but then it got bad, dry fire, no safeties on these bows, honestly there cheap and made in Taiwan, suks, but im back to my Ravins. Made rite.. love your channel Rich...
Thanks Rich….another awesome vlog. I bought my SWAT X1 last year & shortly after I put it up for sale. I just felt it was too short & could never work for me. It didn’t sell. That turned out to be a good thing because it forced me to give the X1 a fair chance. That was an eye opener. I quickly found out that the length wasn’t an issue at all. As a matter of fact within probably 10 shots it was clearly becoming one of my favorite X-bows. Once I had tested multiple bolts, heads from 100-200grains, & discovered the incredible constant consistent accuracy it took the top spot, hands down. And that was using the factory optics. Fast forward to this year & Black Friday. I just couldn’t pass up a great deal on a Burris Oracle. I’m still thinking it’s going on the X1. As for KI I was so happy with the X1 that I also purchased a Vital X 430. Another very impressive bow without the frills. Shoots almost as good as the X1. Looking at a Skorpyd Orion 150 & a REV X as well. What to do???? Thanks again Rich. Hope you had a great Christmas & your New Year is amazing!!
@ It’s a no frills option but it really performs. I’m not a fan of their cranks either (I do use one on the SWAT though) so I’m rope cocking it. Not too bad but with my shoulders I wouldn’t want to pull more. I also have the blessing of big hands (size 15 wedding ring) so it’s not always comfortable to grip X-bows. I’m going to order a conversion kit & some grips. I’ve always loved a 1911 in my hands. Fits like nothing else.
I have owned the x1 and the xp. They are very accurate bows and with it shooting longer arrows, they penetrate very well. The arrows I shoot out of mine are spinal taps and they have put a couple nice bucks on the wall. Limb problems was the reason I bought my tenpoint 505 and I have been in love ever since.
I still have both bows with new limbs and they are in my arsenal for bow hunting. They are tight little compact bows to bad they quit making them. They are a safe bow too. I don't think the limb problem was all their fault. I have a scorpyd deathstalker he had limb issues. Ravin had the same issue. No bow can withstand constant stress on the limbs being cocked hours upon hours. I bought a tenpoint 505 with that silent crank system it is awesome I can decock right in tree. I will decock it in tree after best shooting time. Love it plus it helps the life of those 300 pound limbs. I did shoot 2 mature bucks this year and so far love the 505 shooting 505 grain penetraters. Nice video
I bought my Killer Instinct Swat 1X crossbow and 12 bots for $870 at Lancaster Archery. It was discontinued. So I jumped on the opportunity to get it. Killer Instinct Swat X1 for 2025. 🎉🎉🎉 Great video Rich. ❤❤❤
Oh Rich I just thought of something for you too, a simple easy DIY cocking arrow/ bolt. Tennis ball and duck-tape cut a hole in the tennis ball, remove the insides get a arrow/bolt with no field point put it in the hole tape across one side than the other and than wrap taping from the ball to the shaft and you can use fluorescent colours too to help you find it easier in the dark as well. 1/4 to 1/2 roll should work. Back in my LARPING days we had to make them befor the foam things came out and this works well. Much cheaper than actual decocking bolts/arrows. Just incase you want to give something a try!
I almost bought this bow after watching your previous series on it but due to everyone either being out of stock or grossly marked up in price, I decided to go with a used Mission Sub-1 XR. People seem to be dumping bows before ATA. I only need one bow, can be de cocked, and no press needed. I do like the X1 a lot! Hopefully 2025 has some innovative things come out
Thanks for the trigger update and hopefully something will trigger some of those compound bow shooters to update their 2025 season to a crossbow and finally HIT what they have been missing for so long.😊
Killer instinct are great crossbows but the more I see compounds and still with the same issues not being able to uncock them without shooting the more I like and appreciate the old wide excalibur, it’s also cool when you get into making your own strings and things it’s much more enjoyable at least for me, I don’t ever see me getting a compound of any kind of bow but that’s okay because we all keep crossbows in business. Archery is forever growing more than ever before. I am really glad you enjoy your crossbows though. Even the Ravin which I really am not a fan of that company at all hahahahahah! But good stuff and always great videos.
Great video Rich just a thought but with the saftey on when you pull the trigger you pull out all the travel so when you switch the safety off it makes it a "hair" trigger. Try that next time in a safe place obviously with it pointed down range at a target. I think like killer Instinct said there was nothing wrong with your bow. Happy new years to you and your family.
Great video. Tenpoint will debut its 2025 lineup 9:00 Central, 10:00 Eastern. They will be live on their website at this time. Don’t know if you attend the ATA show but I will be present & if you do attend, be sure to drop by the TP booth & look me up. Would be Honored to meet you in person. Kudos on an informative video. Love your content & HONEST evaluations. Keep it up! See ya on the next one.
That 1911 grip def fits my hand better, thanks for the tip. And that loose serving I had in the summer that you saw seemed to get better. 🤷♂️. I’ve been hunting with it mostly now. 3 deer down. I noticed your shwahakers sit inside nicely, what length arrows are you using ? Mine stick out past the barrel farther with a 20 inch arrow.
I had the same problem! Lost 2 bolts and mechanical broad heads out in the woods. Had to get my trigger replaced and lost 3 weeks of hunting . Still a little nervous about it when I release the safety. The shop that replaced it told me killer instinct had a batch of faulty components.
Kind of wish I had gone for this over the Wicked Ridge M-370. But only so many days left in bow season here and I was itching to get atarted and had to go with what was in stock at the local shop.
You might want to check out the DNT zulus scope. You can get a laser rangefinding scope with ballistic compensation (like the burris) with built in IR night vision, which can be removed so its a day only scope. Its a much smaller package than the burris, doesnt need the cheek riser and are selling for about $600. Oh, did i mention built in video recording?
@Deathbybunjie been shooting mine since early November, and the video quality blows away anything from tactacam. Also, the low light gathering ability makes end of legal shooting hours look like broad daylight, without the IR illuminator. Setting the ballistics up can be challenging, but everything can be done right from the scope or the app, but once done, they're spot on. The ability to change the reticle color/style on the fly is sweet. The Burris is nice, but this scope is far more feature packed, at a lower price point. Plus, I might throw the IR illuminator on after the late season and try for some coyotes.
Happy new year Counselor (and everyone ). Not the bow for me but a nice bow just the same. TenPoint, TenPoint or another TenPoint. Did I mention TenPoint 😉 LOL. Just get out and hunt regardless of gear.
Nah I’ll stick with my barnette 350 I don’t have time to get out often and haven’t gotten one with it yet have you overcome the jump when you shoot the ravin? I remember that in a video being a point of contention? Hope all is well! Ahb!!
Nothing against Killer Instinct or the Swat X1, but Tenpoint/Wicked Ridge has treated me well so far. If I upgrade before next season I'm looking at the Stealth 450.
@@Deathbybunjie I doubt I'll buy anything the first year it's out. Give them a chance to work any bugs out. That said it will be neat to see what they are coming out with.
I want one for 2025 but they don't seem to be available. Will they be making more, or will they have a similar sized replacement? I am interested primarily because of how compact it is.
That's pretty much my thoughts, also, they seem to have stopped making them, might not be available once the current supplies are gone, I did find them on Sportsman's Guide and one other online source
@@Deathbybunjie I am so conflicted right now. I want to use compact box blinds to crossbow hunt out of so the size of the crossbow matters big time. I am between the Tenpoint Siege 425, Ravin R26, and Killer Instinct Swat X1. Cost is a concern but far from the number 1 concern. I am a hunter, not a cross bow mechanic. I am looking for a reliable weapon for hunting from small box blinds in the woods. All things equal I would rather pay less but more than anything I want the best function and reliability out of those 3.
Check out the all new TX28 from Ten Point , sure looks a lot like the old Swat X1, although not exactly the same Ten point definitely made some changes to except there style,, rope cock and trigger / safety ext. I could be completely wrong, but my first thought was Ten Point must have bought the swat X patten from KI. ,, Now I did really like the TX28 and Ten point says it is priced for the everyday crossbow hunter at $2000.00 Ha ! Ha ! I guess I'm not an everyday crossbow hunter, I just don't think I'm ready to start paying $2000.00 on my hunting rig . The CP400 I bought 6 years ago for $600.00 has never left me down and has always been deadly accurate , I'm thinking ill just keep using her a few more years and buy one with all the bells and whistles for myself when and if I retire.
I think A lot of crossbow problems are user error. I have the Vital X430 and love it, Now I just need to take a deer with it and may update the sight on it for next season.
A lot of it also has to do with user experience and user errors also were they got it and put it together and may or may not have all the knowledge they need to use a crossbow every company has some group of people complaining about them and there customer service or experience and yes during the hunting season they are going to be busier along with the other big crossbow manufacturers
I am going to probably I wanna know what your opinion is Viper X by 10 point I’m thinking about purchasing one I can no longer draw pull it back with the rope I have for crossbows and can’t cock any of them you’re in the checking out crossbows check that one out for me please if you’re kidding let me know what you think of it though
So many people think you need a high-end expensive crossbow to hunt with let me tell you in my years of hunting I've killed many many deer with cheap crossbows look at the Indians were they shooting a 10-point crossbow with swhacker broadheads I think not
@@Deathbybunjie Hey Rich, I own a 2023 Excalibur Twinstrike. I went through some KI limb splintering on a new Burner 415. (2 separate limb failures). Authorized KI dealer said he was discontinuing his sale of KI. His excact words were... "its not a question of if the limbs are going to splinter/crack, but when." ALL HAIL BUNJIE!
They’re not selling them anymore?
KI site shows them but you can't add to cart. And some sites still sell but not too many, and no Wyvern! I think they're leftovers.
@@Deathbybunjie I got mine from Wyvern about 3 weeks ago (prob last one) its an old one though box has a date of 11/01/2020
@MrMclovin44 I'm not sure those dates are accurate. Don't hold me to this, but I have heard that all the boxes were made then and even the updated crossbows were shipping in those same boxes. I don't have any confirmation of that from the company or anything but I've never heard of a box that didn't have those old 20/20 dates on it
I purchased one late last summer after watching your videos and seeing how well it performed. Got it from Wyvern Creations for $799 and also got a $100.00 rebate from KI. I couldn't be happier with my purchase, I love everything about it and I harvested a 130" 10 pt. with it to top things off. Thanks you Rich for turning me onto this magnificent piece of equipment.
I bought mine about a year ago and got it for $799, free shipping and no tax on a Black Friday 2023 sale. For what I paid for mine I really like it and haven't had any issues with this particular one. It's not my only crossbow so I spread wear and tear usage over 13 other crossbows from other makes and models. I like to shoot mine year round and have backups of backups of a backup so to speak. I'm never out of use of a crossbow because they will never ALL need routine maintenance, setup/tuning or repairs at the same time. I also have loaners for people who tag along and don't own one. Knock on wood.... suppose someone would break into my truck and steal one out of the super cab back. I'm not screwed and can just grab another to use. I'd rather buy them when they are available and or on sale rather than be scrambling for one in a jam and panic when everybody is sold out or wants too much (full price no deals) for them due to the shortage. For what these modern crossbows cost you might not always have the extra cash at the time as well.....they are in fact pretty expensive compared to firearms and knives.
Glad you posted another video, my withdrawal pangs since the last one were getting unbearable. LOL! Can't wait for the press video series! Give us lots of step by step close up views. Woo Hoo!
Will do my best 💯
Your issues with decocking and cranks are similar to what I experienced. That's what drove me to my tenpoint venom-x. Integrated is the best way to do cranks. Super easy to decock after a hunt. We won't talk about why I am so experienced in decocking instead of shooting though...
I bought the same crossbow. Great crossbow.
Lol thats great about the decocking. I, also, and more experienced in that field than I would like to be LOL
Sold Mine had To Many issues and the customer service was terrible. Now I got a tenpoint and couldn’t be happier.
Happy new year... last season got me wired for this one!!!
Good points. Something i really like about my TRX 515 is i can decock it, no more shooting in the dark.
Hey rich I have to tell u I bought that crossbow after watching all your vids on it and man I love how it feels I thought I might be able to cock it but I guess I don’t have enough strength so I have to use the cocking device which I’m not a fan of but getting use to it and the more I do it it’s easy . The only thing is after shit it quite a bit the trigger feels almost like there is a delay I don’t know how to explain it but I’m going to get in touch with them now season is over and see if something is up . But man do I love this crossbow and I have shot mission sun one which I own and I have a mission charge and a ten point venom but I like the enclosed barrel and the fact that it’s light and small . I love your vids I really look forward to them your awesome !!! Thank you for all the time and dedication hou put into your channel
Rich, great video, thanks for sharing.
I look forward to a video you do about changing the string. I have no idea what press to get.
Good to see you back..Great video as always...Love my TenPoint cocking and De/cocking ACUslide...It is a game changer for sure.
Broke the string on my fatal X at the end of October and my bow is still in the archery shop waiting on new string, cables and cams from killer instinct. I do love that bow though.
I’m also a excalibur guy (recurve fan). But the only big reason is the maintenance, i love to make my own strings and shoot nearly every day.
Maybe someday there’s a compound crossbow with easy maintenance, a new kind of construction would be awesome.
I bought a swat X1 last year Rich after watching your videos. First impressions were awesome, but then it got bad, dry fire, no safeties on these bows, honestly there cheap and made in Taiwan, suks, but im back to my Ravins. Made rite.. love your channel Rich...
Dry fires? No safeties? Whaaaaa? 😬
Thanks Rich….another awesome vlog.
I bought my SWAT X1 last year & shortly after I put it up for sale. I just felt it was too short & could never work for me. It didn’t sell. That turned out to be a good thing because it forced me to give the X1 a fair chance.
That was an eye opener.
I quickly found out that the length wasn’t an issue at all. As a matter of fact within probably 10 shots it was clearly becoming one of my favorite X-bows. Once I had tested multiple bolts, heads from 100-200grains, & discovered the incredible constant consistent accuracy it took the top spot, hands down. And that was using the factory optics.
Fast forward to this year & Black Friday. I just couldn’t pass up a great deal on a Burris Oracle. I’m still thinking it’s going on the X1.
As for KI I was so happy with the X1 that I also purchased a Vital X 430. Another very impressive bow without the frills. Shoots almost as good as the X1.
Looking at a Skorpyd Orion 150 & a REV X as well. What to do????
Thanks again Rich. Hope you had a great Christmas & your New Year is amazing!!
That 430 is sweet too
@ It’s a no frills option but it really performs. I’m not a fan of their cranks either (I do use one on the SWAT though) so I’m rope cocking it. Not too bad but with my shoulders I wouldn’t want to pull more. I also have the blessing of big hands (size 15 wedding ring) so it’s not always comfortable to grip X-bows. I’m going to order a conversion kit & some grips. I’ve always loved a 1911 in my hands. Fits like nothing else.
I have owned the x1 and the xp. They are very accurate bows and with it shooting longer arrows, they penetrate very well. The arrows I shoot out of mine are spinal taps and they have put a couple nice bucks on the wall. Limb problems was the reason I bought my tenpoint 505 and I have been in love ever since.
I still have both bows with new limbs and they are in my arsenal for bow hunting. They are tight little compact bows to bad they quit making them. They are a safe bow too. I don't think the limb problem was all their fault. I have a scorpyd deathstalker he had limb issues. Ravin had the same issue. No bow can withstand constant stress on the limbs being cocked hours upon hours. I bought a tenpoint 505 with that silent crank system it is awesome I can decock right in tree. I will decock it in tree after best shooting time. Love it plus it helps the life of those 300 pound limbs. I did shoot 2 mature bucks this year and so far love the 505 shooting 505 grain penetraters. Nice video
I bought my Killer Instinct Swat 1X crossbow and 12 bots for $870 at Lancaster Archery. It was discontinued. So I jumped on the opportunity to get it. Killer Instinct Swat X1 for 2025. 🎉🎉🎉 Great video Rich. ❤❤❤
Awesome
Still can’t beat Excalibur overall!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻Great video!
Oh Rich I just thought of something for you too, a simple easy DIY cocking arrow/ bolt. Tennis ball and duck-tape cut a hole in the tennis ball, remove the insides get a arrow/bolt with no field point put it in the hole tape across one side than the other and than wrap taping from the ball to the shaft and you can use fluorescent colours too to help you find it easier in the dark as well. 1/4 to 1/2 roll should work.
Back in my LARPING days we had to make them befor the foam things came out and this works well. Much cheaper than actual decocking bolts/arrows. Just incase you want to give something a try!
I almost bought this bow after watching your previous series on it but due to everyone either being out of stock or grossly marked up in price, I decided to go with a used Mission Sub-1 XR. People seem to be dumping bows before ATA. I only need one bow, can be de cocked, and no press needed. I do like the X1 a lot! Hopefully 2025 has some innovative things come out
That bow was built to shoot
Had the string problem with my x1 sent it in they put updated cams and cables on it so far so good
Happy New Year 🎉All 😊
Thanks for the trigger update and hopefully something will trigger some of those compound bow shooters to update their 2025 season to a crossbow and finally HIT what they have been missing for so long.😊
👍😅
Love my X1
Killer instinct are great crossbows but the more I see compounds and still with the same issues not being able to uncock them without shooting the more I like and appreciate the old wide excalibur, it’s also cool when you get into making your own strings and things it’s much more enjoyable at least for me, I don’t ever see me getting a compound of any kind of bow but that’s okay because we all keep crossbows in business.
Archery is forever growing more than ever before. I am really glad you enjoy your crossbows though. Even the Ravin which I really am not a fan of that company at all hahahahahah! But good stuff and always great videos.
Great video Rich just a thought but with the saftey on when you pull the trigger you pull out all the travel so when you switch the safety off it makes it a "hair" trigger. Try that next time in a safe place obviously with it pointed down range at a target. I think like killer Instinct said there was nothing wrong with your bow. Happy new years to you and your family.
That 100% makes sense to me
Great video. Tenpoint will debut its 2025 lineup 9:00 Central, 10:00 Eastern. They will be live on their website at this time. Don’t know if you attend the ATA show but I will be present & if you do attend, be sure to drop by the TP booth & look me up. Would be Honored to meet you in person. Kudos on an informative video. Love your content & HONEST evaluations. Keep it up! See ya on the next one.
Bass Pro did their debut yesterday with the new Tenpoint bows.....
That's pretty exciting, I will be tuning in today that's for sure and you never know about that Outdoor Show, I have not been there in years
That 1911 grip def fits my hand better, thanks for the tip. And that loose serving I had in the summer that you saw seemed to get better. 🤷♂️. I’ve been hunting with it mostly now. 3 deer down. I noticed your shwahakers sit inside nicely, what length arrows are you using ? Mine stick out past the barrel farther with a 20 inch arrow.
19"
Losing that inch reduced weight down to 478 total grains, can I get 360 fps instead of 350 or so
I had the same problem! Lost 2 bolts and mechanical broad heads out in the woods. Had to get my trigger replaced and lost 3 weeks of hunting . Still a little nervous about it when I release the safety. The shop that replaced it told me killer instinct had a batch of faulty components.
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love the swat X1 I believe it is the best of the bunch. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
Good vid
R29x review?
There's this one ua-cam.com/video/zKmIKMcxCdU/v-deo.htmlsi=4nRZNCbAkv6KQhDC
Will do updated one in spring for sure
Hi Rich, good to see your review. What press do you use and/or recommend?
I bought one online, not even sure the name, more soon
Kind of wish I had gone for this over the Wicked Ridge M-370. But only so many days left in bow season here and I was itching to get atarted and had to go with what was in stock at the local shop.
Wicked Ridge make some good stuff though
You might want to check out the DNT zulus scope. You can get a laser rangefinding scope with ballistic compensation (like the burris) with built in IR night vision, which can be removed so its a day only scope. Its a much smaller package than the burris, doesnt need the cheek riser and are selling for about $600. Oh, did i mention built in video recording?
I am actually planning on taking a look at those in the near future, does seem pretty interesting
@Deathbybunjie been shooting mine since early November, and the video quality blows away anything from tactacam. Also, the low light gathering ability makes end of legal shooting hours look like broad daylight, without the IR illuminator. Setting the ballistics up can be challenging, but everything can be done right from the scope or the app, but once done, they're spot on. The ability to change the reticle color/style on the fly is sweet. The Burris is nice, but this scope is far more feature packed, at a lower price point. Plus, I might throw the IR illuminator on after the late season and try for some coyotes.
@@Deathbybunjie I'd buy one today if they had a remote pressure or wired switch for the rangefinder .
@@briankesner5941 there's no remote?
Had mine for 5 months. Cam bearing exploded upon shooting at a very large buck. That was enough for me. Total about 25 shots. Just bought a Tenpoint
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Rich, where’s the best place to ask you a couple of questions regarding mechanical broadheads and faster crossbows?
Deathbybunjie.com you can fill out contact form and we can email
You should invest in a discharge bag. They are cheap and small so they don't take up much room in your vehicle.
I have one, in case the decocking bolt fails. Might start using that instead.
Nice video. I’m switching crossbow bolts and switching to lumenok nocks. Do you have a discount code for the nocks?
BUNJIE on lumenok.com!!
You might add some padding to the back of the pistol grip to move your palm further away from the trigger?
That certainly is one plan, maybe if I do that and add a trigger shoe it will be a better fit, make it bigger in both directions
If the crossbow doesn’t fit, you must acquit😃
@Kurtdog63 😅🤣
Don't even have to watch the video. The answer is yes lol.
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Happy new year Counselor (and everyone ). Not the bow for me but a nice bow just the same. TenPoint, TenPoint or another TenPoint. Did I mention TenPoint 😉 LOL. Just get out and hunt regardless of gear.
😅👍
I bought a bear x impact for 500
How popular are decocking mechanisms? I feel like it would be a good selling point. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
Pretty standard on Modern crossbows given the High draw weights, and yes I agree they are pretty handy!
Nah I’ll stick with my barnette 350 I don’t have time to get out often and haven’t gotten one with it yet have you overcome the jump when you shoot the ravin? I remember that in a video being a point of contention? Hope all is well! Ahb!!
Ok curiosity got me Rich how come the arsenal of swat x1's?
What video did you show installing the grips
ua-cam.com/video/NNXwcblJEIM/v-deo.htmlsi=fMjS68dHYHYK9x_9
Nothing against Killer Instinct or the Swat X1, but Tenpoint/Wicked Ridge has treated me well so far. If I upgrade before next season I'm looking at the Stealth 450.
Tenpoint announces new stuff tomorrow woohoo!
@@Deathbybunjie I doubt I'll buy anything the first year it's out. Give them a chance to work any bugs out. That said it will be neat to see what they are coming out with.
@CamaroZ28Nut3 💯 agree on that, good plan.
I want one for 2025 but they don't seem to be available. Will they be making more, or will they have a similar sized replacement? I am interested primarily because of how compact it is.
That's pretty much my thoughts, also, they seem to have stopped making them, might not be available once the current supplies are gone, I did find them on Sportsman's Guide and one other online source
@@Deathbybunjie I am so conflicted right now. I want to use compact box blinds to crossbow hunt out of so the size of the crossbow matters big time. I am between the Tenpoint Siege 425, Ravin R26, and Killer Instinct Swat X1. Cost is a concern but far from the number 1 concern. I am a hunter, not a cross bow mechanic. I am looking for a reliable weapon for hunting from small box blinds in the woods. All things equal I would rather pay less but more than anything I want the best function and reliability out of those 3.
Just ordered a Swat X1, so hopefully I didn't make a mistake...
Of course the the Bungie King is gonna get fast service. We all trust your word and manufacturers know that. Regular Joe's not that much.
Check out the all new TX28 from Ten Point , sure looks a lot like the old Swat X1, although not exactly the same Ten point definitely made some changes to except there style,, rope cock and trigger / safety ext. I could be completely wrong, but my first thought was Ten Point must have bought the swat X patten from KI. ,, Now I did really like the TX28 and Ten point says it is priced for the everyday crossbow hunter at $2000.00 Ha ! Ha ! I guess I'm not an everyday crossbow hunter, I just don't think I'm ready to start paying $2000.00 on my hunting rig . The CP400 I bought 6 years ago for $600.00 has never left me down and has always been deadly accurate , I'm thinking ill just keep using her a few more years and buy one with all the bells and whistles for myself when and if I retire.
Enclosed barrel is a SWAT exclusive though, but I agree 2000 not my plan either haha
I think A lot of crossbow problems are user error. I have the Vital X430 and love it, Now I just need to take a deer with it and may update the sight on it for next season.
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A lot of it also has to do with user experience and user errors also were they got it and put it together and may or may not have all the knowledge they need to use a crossbow every company has some group of people complaining about them and there customer service or experience and yes during the hunting season they are going to be busier along with the other big crossbow manufacturers
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I am going to probably I wanna know what your opinion is Viper X by 10 point I’m thinking about purchasing one I can no longer draw pull it back with the rope I have for crossbows and can’t cock any of them you’re in the checking out crossbows check that one out for me please if you’re kidding let me know what you think of it though
10 point is announcing some new stuff today so maybe I can look at that one also
Venom x is the best bow of 2024.
New swat x1 could be “dead head” or “death trap”
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So many people think you need a high-end expensive crossbow to hunt with let me tell you in my years of hunting I've killed many many deer with cheap crossbows look at the Indians were they shooting a 10-point crossbow with swhacker broadheads I think not
I'm pretty sure they would shoot this crossbow if they have that option LOL
Great video Rich as usual. What press did you end up getting?
It's one built by a guy online not a popular press.
ABSOLUTELY NO!
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You'll have problems with any crossbow
Stop trying to sell that thing it’s a piece of crap 💩 the Ravin R29x is Outdoor Life Crossbow of Choice 😢
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I have both, not so sure I agree with you lol
Nope!
What IS the right crossbow for you in 2025?
NOPE
Fair enough for what is the best crossbow for you in 2025
@@Deathbybunjie Hey Rich, I own a 2023 Excalibur Twinstrike. I went through some KI limb splintering on a new Burner 415. (2 separate limb failures). Authorized KI dealer said he was discontinuing his sale of KI. His excact words were... "its not a question of if the limbs are going to splinter/crack, but when." ALL HAIL BUNJIE!