As the Marie in this video, I have never felt more special from a video; And even better from one of my favorite people Julia ♥️. I’ll finally give her the credit she deserve and say she did help me see the light on Stydia 6 years ago. And that version of me from 4 years ago in those reaction clips is my sleep paralysis demon. Glad all non-Maries enjoyed this video as much as I did 👏🏼👏🏼
100%! He honestly progressed so much as an actor in such a sort time when you consider he started out doing silly UA-cam videos before Teen Wolf. I just really hope he gets recognition for his talent one day
the real question: if derek was an adult, did he pay taxes? was he employed? how do you file your taxes if you live in the ruins of your house? do the members of your pack count as dependables?
Derek's money came from the Hale vault that had 117 million dollars in it and in season 3 he bought a whole condo complex so he doesn't live in the ruins of the Hale house anymore because it now belongs to the district for deconstruction.
i hate that i have thought about this but: he wasn't employed, as he lived off his family's inherited wealth (and probably didn't spend much anyway lol). i guess he paid property tax on his loft with that money, too. not sure about the hale house. in the pilot he tells scott and stiles that it's 'private property', but by season 3 the district council is demolishing it. it's unclear whether it was ever legally his, or if it was laura's and he was just squatting there after she died? the pack thing is also interesting. we know next to nothing about boyd and erica's home lives, and nothing about isaac's except that he's orphaned after his dad dies. it's implied that they live with derek, though, because isaac has nowhere to go after derek kicks him out (and no one seems worried about boyd and erica's families when they get kidnapped). i assume that none of that was legal. i guess we just have to assume they were all emancipated...? lol.
@@henrywayne5724lol that’s so true. But he basically was a main character cause Scott needed stiles to do anything and vice versus they are a duo can’t have one without the other. The friendship is what made the show thrive for me.
I completely forgot about it so when it came in the video I had to pause and laugh for a good five minutes. and then all of the gifs form tumblr flashed before my eyes
I can accept the werewolves, I can accept the mad scientist chimeras, I can even accept the weird "never existed" reality bending... but the most unbelievable aspect of this show is how important lacrosse is to it. Like, seriously, out of all sports?
“three female characters with sapphic energy crushing on stiles” i watched teen wolf in my comphet years and had massive crush on stiles so i call it #representation
met a dude outside a club once years ago who was like "do you watch teen wolf?" and when i answered yes immediately took his jacket off and showed me his identical tattoo to Tyler Posey's one. wonder what he's up to now
one of the things i like about lydia being a banshee is that her power comes from something that is traditionally viewed as feminine or weak - screaming. But for lydia, who was introduced as the *vapid pretty girl* but come to find out there's more to her, screaming is what makes her powerful
Yes! And her introduction of her powers reinforced the “hysterical” framing of women. She just survived an assault & people were literally joking about her running around naked...like what?
yesss...!! Lydia was my favorite female lead and I **loved** the way her character developed over the show. I admire how the directors didn't just put her in the backburner like they did Kira or kill her off. Lydia stayed an important character to the plot.
Honestly her character feels like Summer from the O.C. to a T. And their her dyamics with Stiles feels so alike to Seth and Summer. I wonder if the show runners of Teen Wolf were involved with the O.C. also? P.S. I already know that the show runners of the O.C. also created Gossip Girl, so maybe all these shows have something in common.
... but why? We never learn why she is a banshee, what that even means at all. Lydia became a strong character the second she decided she didn't need to pretend to be dumb. What did the banshee powers add but more confusion that was never explained?
She also doesn't sacrifice her love of traditionally feminine things as she becomes more mature and powerful. Her "girliness" wasn't portrayed as "holding her back."
i was gonna say that too! as soon as i saw her video i was like damn i wish someone did a teen wolf video like this, and then julia announced she had been working on a teen wolf video for a bit and i was like wow, this is magic
excuse me can we talk about how colton haynes coming out as gay and jackson being retconned to be gay/bi was a blessing cause come on him having a crush on scott explains season one soooooo much
....yikes (I've never seen teen wolf besides a couple eps of S3 and lots of fanfic hah, but Julia's voice is so so soothing and that's enjoyable to me, but as someone who has attempted several times.. just yikes)
@@franciscoancer2618 that was the reason, but due to supernatural creatures not being known they were gonna pass it off as an ordinary suicide, and chris says something along the lines of "most women overdose on pills" and allison's mum says nah and decides to stab herself on her daughter's bed
I would like the writers to know that I am reminded of the line where Stiles points out that Scott's jawline is uneven every single time I look at Tyler Posey so thanks for that I guess
have i ever seen teen wolf? no do i like the idea of watching teen wolf? no do i want to know about teen wolf? not really will i listen to 1 hour and 44 minutes of julias soothing voice and good analysis whilst i clean my room? absolutely
It’s funny that you see Scott and Allison relationship problem as Scott might kill Allison, but I hate their relationship because Allison constantly tries to kill Scott. Like every season Allison was convinced by her family to kill her boyfriend and other friends.
I honestly only looked Alysson when they broke up and she became her own self. And because I liked Isaac more than Scott, just because he had an accent
literally, though also the age difference between the actors was so jarring. To the point where if the genders were reversed people would consider it gross.
Okay so it’s not just me who thought Scallison was a bit toxic I mean she did try to kill him like twice and after that their relationship was never the same. Alison wasn’t interesting she was just a hunter to me I only started to like in the third season
"Divine move. Divine move? You think you have any moves AT ALL? You can kill the oni but me? ME? IM A THOUSAND YEARS OLD. YOU CANT KILL ME" Is probably my favorite none comedic line from Teenwolf.
I'm late to the party replying to this comment, but I'm with you there. In the hands of a lesser actor this would have been the goofiest, most over dramatic moment ever, but Dylan completely nailed it.
yeah, i actually think all the canon pairings sucks haha. stiles should be with derek (tho I'd excuse stalia), scott with kira, and lydia with either parish or should be lesbian (I'd prefer her as a lesbian tbh)
Guess everyone is different then, I loved malia and just didn’t really like Kira at all.. nothing against Kira, just found her boring and not a good match for Scott. I think everyone knew Stiles and Lydia were endgame, so I’m happy she ended up with Scott. I mean, after all, he’s the one who literally turned her back into a human
"we didn't hate her at all! we just wanted her to read the lesbian master doc" is such a great way to describe a lot of female love interests on teen dramas
What is lesbian master doc ....Are ppl saying the malia was gay because i really thought she was going to be gay. Also really mad that they dressed shelly hinig in the actual alison clothes
@@abirami9481 sounds like sarcasms. But will check it t out the thing is Jeff Davis is actual white gay man who said homophobia didn't exist in becon hills but made specific gay tropes but didn't use the natural chemistry of the main male characters. He was spiteful because he did not see sterek and he also tried to place diversify but didn't do basic respect towards biopoc cast
@@itowilltube oh I only watched 6a and divine move lol. I just read the fan fiction(every single Theo POV one I read just...changes me as a person) and what you say does make sense. Every time Danny is mentioned it is accompanied by some statement about his sexuality. This explains why I liked the later seasons better. Davis did not have much control over those.
i will never forgive the directors of teen wolf for not putting isaac in the intro, not even in season 3, and only putting chris, melissa and sheriff stilinski in the intro of season 6.
So jelous, my lack of context to ALL of the damn plot points were precisely what stoped me from indulging in ao3 teen wolf, cause I just wont watch none of this!
cant believe you didnt include the “i’m a thousand years old, you cant kill me!” scene... 😭 still have chills anytime i see it again. he really did deserve an emmy
Tumblr made me believe that the Stiles guy was the main character and was shacking up with Mr. Tragic Loiter so I'm very confused at the way this video is shaking out 20 minutes in.
in 2017 one of my room-mates fan of the show got me and our other room-mates to watch TW for the series finale coming that summer. All my previous knowledge of TW was also from Tumblr so I was 100% sure that Stiles was the protagonist and had a semi-canonic-waiting-to-happen relationship with Derek . When I saw that, in fact, Scott was the protagonist, I was confused bc for real I've never seen that dude in my life but oh well, at least I saw from where the Sterek shippers where coming. By the time Derek got a gf and then leaves the show indefinitely (so around s4?) I was super confused again so I turn to my friend to ask him about it and he said that they were never canon and it wasn't gonna happen so lmao imagine my disappointment.
As Mike's Mic finishes his Pretty Little Liars videos, the holy trinity of 2000's-2010's teen dramas has been spoken about in extreme detail. Special thanks to Jenny Nicholson's THE vampire diaries video, miss Julia Cudney for this video, and Mike's unhinged PLL recap
There is nothing boring about her she was one of the most interesting because of who she was supernaturally and it was pretty cool that they made her character not just a werewolf apart of the pack. Kira deserved better
i sobbed when i watched it, it ddnt help that right after with the credits it was dedicated to Tylers mom who passed away. I was SOBBING and my mom looked at me like I was crazy, and I was like you don't undertanddddddd i made my phone password the numbers that spell SMAA lmao
We don’t need a season seven for teen wolf I just want the the Kira spin off that they were talking about because the way they dropped her storyline like that was unacceptable her character has sm potential.
@@Kirasfox Right!! people are putting all their energy into just getting one season of teen wolf but if we get the Kira spin off we could get multiple seasons with the chance of getting to see some of the OG actors
“fans believing this dead and buried series will resurrect itself if we just tweet hard enough” me: *when they announced the teen wolf movie coming in 2022* bestie im a afraid to tell you this!
I'm never forgiving the fandom for bullying Arden and hating Kira FOR NO REASON :) also Arden shouldn't have been kicked off the way she was. Jeff legitimately said he wanted a spinoff :) still. Salty. Even. After . All .these YEARS
So obviously most of the teenagers are played by adults but it kind of scares me that it has one of the best portrayals of teenagers in teen dramas. Especially after season two, their wardrobes are on point. I would wear almost every thing Kira and Malia wear and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen sweaters on my classmates that are very similar to the pug one Lydia has and the heart one Allison has. Also, with the exception of Lydia the canonical genius, they all struggled with school. People act like Malia got caught up to everything very quickly but she most definitely did not and the scene where Allison breaks down to the sheriff was surprisingly relatable.,
I wanted to dress like Allison so bad lol, I used to make Polyvore sets of all the characters outfits. I actually bought a purple sweater with unicorns on it from Target that Lydia wore once lmao, it was on sale. Could never afford her $1K Celine bag though lol oop.
Can we all agree that stiles aka dylan o'brien was the backbone of this show? I started watching it just because of him lol so maybe I'm being a little subjective here.
No really, he was. And it was evident in Season 6B more than ever. Something was definitely missing. When he returned in the last episode it felt whole again. Like he brought so much energy to that show, he really deserves his flowers
It's really weird bc the writers gave Stiles all the plot beats you're supposed to give the main character. Like they developed Stiles as this funny, brave, emotional, clever person. And didn't do anything with Scott. Like the show is literally set up for him to be your fave.
It feels like Teen Wolf *should* have been where the internet got its idea of the skelleton of the genre... but apparatnly it comes from Supernatural (I assume from an episode with werewolves)
One indisputable thing about this show though. No matter if you loved this show or hated it. The opening intro sequence?? With that music??? And the visuals??? STUNNING. Ate that shit up EVERYTIMEE
does anyone remember those tumblr recap blogs that peaked in popularity during season 3a/3b who would just do screenshots with comic sans of each episode the day after it aired? peak comedy at the time
One thing that i didn't like was the show's ridiculously high body count. It was hard to feel like anything that happened was significant or suspenseful when there was a horrifying massacre every 5 minutes that no one seemed to really care about.
actually tho. like why is anyone even still living there. after the first 3 serial killers/mass murderers in my town i wouldve noped the fuck out. at this point all the residents are just like "oh yeah paul was killed in last weeks massacre, what a shame :/".
Why would anyone ever go to the Beacon Hills hospital for help, that's where all the bad shit happens. It got so bad that most fanfictions even have the characters (usually Stiles) mention that the hospital got a bad reputation
Honestly they coulda just came up with some bullshit reason to explain that away. Like 'the nameton or whatever it's called influences the towns judgement and so the massacres aren't seen as something to worry about'
I was waiting for her to mention that- I don't think he spoke a single word for like the first 15 minutes, yet his silent acting alone was so powerful I was just SO tense throughout it all, I practically forgot to breathe. It's one of my favourite episodes of both the season AND the show. In fact, Stiles's whole arc with the murder was the saving grace of season 5 for me.
Oh my God, seeing that "You're not here to kill me, you're here to protect me" scene just reawakened the Teen Wolf fan in me, like some kind of primal animal spirit. Fuck me, 3B was so good, and we were all so full of hope after it.
All this video has taught me is that Tyler Posey was a lot cuter when he was younger than he is now, Dylan O’Brian existed outside of my vague recollections of the early 2010s, and that Teen Wolf miraculously maintained its high school setting throughout its entire run. This video honestly kinda makes me wanna watch the show, and yes, it was mostly the Dylan O’Brain clips.
It was literally predicted in the fandom during season 3 airing that people would rewatch Teen Wolf for Dylan O’Brian. This show, to my knowledge, was also literally his first acting job.
I hated that characters would always disappear on a high moment. I would be so excited to see what happens next and they would disappear. Danny knows? Disappears. Gone. Derek. Cora. Isaac. Kira. BTS of the show must have been rough.
I think the reason Cora disappeared was because Adelaide Kane was cast in Reign as the main protagonist. I'm pretty sure she was going to stay on for the remainder of the season until that happened.
honestly i get why lydia was the one who pulled stiles back to reality in season 6 but……. it still should’ve been Scott imo, i mean even if stiles and lydia have an incredibly strong connection to each other and are each other’s tethered, scott and stiles are literally the heart of the show
i entered the fandom exactly on season three and it was WILD. it was so good. the drama was delectable, the angst was FANTASTIC and we were riding the wave of adrenaline every single week. god those were good times
In my opinion, Allison’s death began the decline of the show. It should have made the characters stronger and marked a shift in character development but instead they didn’t mourn her at all. From then on the show became full of continuity errors, lack of character development, many characters inexplicably leaving, and an over reliance on new mythology that made no sense.
Many shows go on way too long, even if it's the same exact writers and producers. The longer show goes on the more likely for f**k ups to happen and eventually metastasize, corrupting the entire show.
the fact that my biggest OTP ever, stydia, finally got together was the best thing that's ever happened to me. the fact that after they got together they got almost zero interactions with each other was the worst thing that's ever happened to me. stydia shipper besties, i'm afraid to tell you this...
I FEEL THAT I FEEL THAT. I actually JUST commented a really long explanation of this exact feeling a minute ago. it makes me so mad. the way they handled stydia after s4 felt drawn out. like they kind of abandoned parts of their relationship development in certain ways from s3 and it felt unnatural with certain things as it continued. they depicted their relationship in such a emotionally investing way and to have them put them together in the last few episodes of the show and rob us of the relationship development we wanted earlier.... idk it really pisses me off that we waited so long to just get one 100% romantically driven kiss and ONE love confession and got nothing else. in the last episode of the show it didnt even feel like they were together in my mind just because we got to see so little, which makes me really sad. it didnt feel like we or they got the development they deserved and the audience didnt get the satisfaction that they kind of implied we would get. the investment wasnt worth the payout :/ i mean it was... because i love them but it also wasnt in the way they handled it. sorry if that doesnt make sense my eyes hurt like hell rn
@@nataliedang1004 AND LYDIA WAS HAPPIER TO SEE JACKSON THAN SHE HAD BEEN TO SEE STILES SINCE SEASON 4- please don't get me started this makes me so mad
Oh my god thank you for addressing the people constantly tweeting at the actors. I ran an embarrassingly popular teen wolf fanfiction blog on tumblr for like six years. As someone who also capitalized off this beautiful nightmare of a show and still has some love for it, I hope it NEVER comes back. It's honestly really sad to see people constantly harassing the actors, who (at least most of them) are just trying to get on with their lives and do other projects.
@@tessa6347 I'm kind of curious in the way that I would be if I were watching a car crash about to happen. I feel like I have to watch it, but I don't have high hopes that it will be good.
malia telling scott to look at her while he was blind reminds me of that scene in buffy when giles gets knocked out for the millionth time, and cordelia tells him that one day he'll wake up in a coma. like imagine if that scene was supposed to be serious.
i am literally in the middle of my second rewatch of teen wolf. is everyone just straight up rewatching teen wolf right now like is that why dylan obrien is no.1 on famous birthdays in his age category
A lot of the problems around stiles story line is because they kept baiting Sterek and then tried to go "oh we weren't doing that look stiles is drooling over [insert girl]." The fact that they made stiles bi and then didn't resolve his male love interests hurt his interactions with his female love interests by making them feel cheap.
@@wacksonjittemore4013 yeah, never liked any of the love interests for him. They feel forced? Just to tick the box. Except for Lydia, that was realistic one-sided imo
Okay I watched teen wolf when I was much younger and never saw what people saw in sterek. I do not give enough shits to go watch it now that I’m older and more aware of queercoding, but could you explain, if u don’t mind, the sterek queerbaiting elements and scenes that were in the show ? Im genuinely asking cause I don’t remember any apart from the cousin miguel scene ahah :)
I'm glad that no matter what we think about everything else everybody can pretty much agree that Dylan O'Brien's 3B nogitsune performance was a cultural reset and is still The Standard for all actors everywhere
this video was a wild ride i kept going back and forth between "should i rewatch teen wolf? did i actually fucking love this show? was it a blast?" and "nah i made the right choice to never even finish this nonsense"
Watch it but just know the peak for many people is season 3 i wouldn't go pay for it but if it's on netflix and you have account. It's ok. I hate how dirty the did arden cho and the black actors. Like Bianca Lawson. She is so talented but i feel like she is sidelined. She should been a vilian.
I was a stan of this show from the premiere to season 4. I got my best friend into it and we were convinced we’d make it to Hollywood where I’d marry Tyler Posey and she’d marry Dylan O’Brien. I wish I was kidding
Even from just reading fanfiction of the show i could always tell when they failed to capture stiles' humor--he's almost always really charming even in fic, which really shows how strong his characterization is
the best thing about bisexual stiles is that I can ship him lydia in the show aka the canon and with derek in fanon, because I feel like the show and the fanfic world created by fans are literally two completely different things and some fics are even better lol
So glad I am not the only one who did that. I always shipped Stydia in the show and I see Stiles as bisexual but Sterek was def something better explored in fanfics and outside the show. For the age gap alone.
I've been very ashamed of liking teen wolf and being over 18 years old but everytime I spill this secret, my grand confession of this self indulgence, the big "okay, I have to come clean, I like teen wolf" everyone, even the most unexpected people just say "yeah, me too" and I am delighted every time
@@katleiz same omg i’m in the middle of watching s5 ep 19 at this very moment and i see absolutely no hints of them being together - i’m confused to say the least
Derek's character deserved better. He had a good background story and had the potentials to be subversive. If only they let him integrate into the series and with other characters.
I cannot tell you how many times I've rewatched 3B. Like I remember watching the show back in high school and then just being absolutely blown away by Dylan O'Brien's performance. I'm pretty sure void Stiles is the reason why I started liking shadowy and deceptive characters (the tears in front of Scott's mom, the pleading not to kill him). Like I still am so impressed with him, he was leagues past that show.
I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say I think I've memorized each episode of 3B. I know exactly what's going to happen, how it'll play out when it'll play out-I nearly know all the lines because it's just that good. And Dylan O' Brian somehow always impresses me, every time I watch it, he's actually incredible and the fact that he didn't even get nominated is genuinely a crime. And not like a "they should have gotten an Oscar!" for a mediocre performance type of statement, he _genuinely_ should have gotten an Emmy/GG nomination at _least._
@@thetruth830 I think he and Hoechlin were literally the best actors on that show. imo O'Brien is a natural, but he really came into his own/shined as the Nogitsune -- he really should have been nominated for those eps. They're also the two most successful TW alumni -- both went on to star in big budget feature films and/or critically acclaimed indie flicks, and/or critically acclaimed recurring TV roles. Compared to what the others have done since, it's kind of no contest -- and no surprise.
Season 1-2 were the original and have the original vibes from the show, season 3-4 was where the show peaked in its potential and had the best lore and storylines, and season 5-6 really declined in quality and it felt like it just dragged on
I was like.... they are not seriously doing this I don’t even know HOW they got together it never made sense but for her to heal him???✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼 maam take a step back pls
So my biggest issue with the show was definitely the treatment of Arden but they also had a huge problem with keeping track of ages. Allison was 18 when she died because she was older than everyone else and has an early birthday but whenever you look her up it says she was 17. Liam was two years younger than them. Why was he a senior in season six?! Then again, I guess I can’t really fault the writers on that since the fandom‘s biggest ship was between a sophomore in high school and a full grown adult. And no one thought that was creepy.
i think mostly because it was like a 5year difference and since the actors were older it didn't seem so inappropriate. that's one of the problems with casting adults as children, it's hard to see them as minors when they're fully grown and have chemistry with each other
@@denied7616 oh yeah for sure. It still freaks me out though. No the actors only have a four year age difference but for the characters it’s like eight I think.( I might have just imagine that number but regardless he is still a full grown adult ) and people hate student teacher romances on TV shows. Rightfully so but they age differences are usually around the same so it just weirds me out that no one has a problem with this one.
@@alicat7633 maybe because derek never really acted like a mature person, he was much closer to emotionally stunted jackson than to any of the actual adults in the show
@@denied7616 so? Still an adult. Still much older than Stiles. Plus, I’m pretty sure the trauma of having your entire family minus 3 people ( One who turned out to be evil who murdered another one and not knowing about the third) be burned alive might be why he acts so weird. It would still be predatory if he actually dated Stiles.
@@alicat7633 okay? i mean you said you didn't understand why people shipped them and didn't see it as predatory, i was just giving you a hypothesis. no need to get snippy about it lol
Honestly they should’ve just left the ending for 6A. It was literally perfect, we had the closure we needed and the happy ending we deserved. They literally tried so hard to shove season 6B down our throats it was so bad.
Yup I spoiled it for myself at first since I found out she was gonna die while watching season 1 and I was kinda happy, but when I got to season 3 I wanted her to live. Haven’t made it past season 4 episode 1 since.
This isn’t related to ur comment but Stalia deserved endgame. Lydia treated stiles like shit and ignored him for 3 seasons when he always complimented her, Malia genuinely loved him and looked attracted to stiles. Toxic Stidya fans made the writers ruin the show, Like what’s the point in putting stiles together with a girl who never reciprocated. And in the walking dead the best relationship was a rushed one. Stalia were meant to be and was the only ship I was actually interested in on the whole show. I’m still bitter people think lydia deserves stiles smh when stiles would’ve left her for dead when he had Malia
as someone who has always aspired to make a youtube channel for the sole purpose of creating videos trying to make sense of the plot of teen wolf, i adore and appreciate this video. we didn't deserve this
I get the showrunners' motive behind not wanting to have "mainstream" supernatural beings such as witches, vampires, etc but as the seasons dragged on and they seemed to be making up new creatures on the spot it became kinda ridiculous 😭
Right??? It seems like they try to step back further from the cliches and the campyness, but in the effort to do so, they just end up making it even more stupid and campy. I don’t understand these shows insistence on trying to make these supernatural tropes “serious” and “mature”(especially bcuz they almost always seem to equate “mature” with sex, drugs and scandal, which is just ridiculous for any show about teenagers). Like, enough with the “different takes” on supernatural mythology, just embrace the cliches! Go back to the basics! It would be so much more interesting to see that 😭🙄😫
@@danielaaraujo7759 This is hella late but I just wanted to slightly refute this statement by saying that Teen Wolf had very interesting creatures that they had no idea what to do with. Like instead of pushing Lydia going for a fields medal they could've had her preparing to be the best homicide detective in the world. Rather than having kitsune be just some random throw in(no matter how much I love them) one of them could have taught philosophy and morals and had their students questioning everything. The hunt should honestly be thrown away, like I'm sorry but why are you downplaying something that terrorized an entire people with "ghost cowboys". The Dread Doctors could've doubled as really fantastic immortal hunters(they would've been terrifying). So while I love the mainstream creatures I don't want to downplay the cool ideas we could've got from Teen Wolf!
Teen Wolf was always good at bare bones. The bare bones of the storys and characters tend to be interesting, but Teen Wolf absolutely fails to explore them in a compelling way.
The thing about the Noshiko flashback, was that she was around 850 years old, but she looked like she was Kira's age. Fifty years later, she looked like a fifty year old. How quickly do the kitsunes age? That just didn't make sense to me.
Yeah that never made much sense to me. I rewatched teen wolf a few months ago and I just created this headcanon that she gave up her kitsune powers when she married in order to grow old with him, Arwen from lord of the rings style
I mean, it's also kinda implied that she isn't as strong as she was back then or even compared to Kira so maybe trapping and defeating the nogitsune the first time around took a lot out of her, which is why she ages like a normal human being now. (but I also love the idea that she deliberately chooses not to age so that she can grow old with her husband)
I KNOW. but I think it may not be true bc the rest of the cast listened on IMDB is from the canceled tv series pilot from like 7 years ago and the new Netflix adaptation is supposed to be a movie. I’d love to see her in it though honestly cast Arden Cho as America she might actually be likable lmao
Just 15 mintes in right now, with no previous knowledge of the show. Im very curious to see if there was any queerbaity stuff about it (I ssume Julia will talk about it if they did)
That bit you mentioned about how Liem was bullied for being outed as a werewolf was obviously a metaphor for being gay/queer. TV shows that have humans and supernatural creatures co exist always do this, and it almost never works. UA-camr Jack Saint made a video discussing the problem with using animals as metaphors for racism. Unlike humans, there are fundamental difference between carnivores and herbivores. A mouse has every right be scared of a bear. That bear might be nice, but the mouse can’t ignore the obvious size and strength difference. Unless they’re trained hunters, humans have no chance of defending themselves against werewolves. So comparing werewolves to gay/queer people is kinda bad.
yeah but the metaphor doesn't work in teen wolf because there are several explicitely gay characters who face no discrimintaion in the teen wolf universe. And Liam himself is straight??
Apparently Gage Golightly left the show to go audition for a pilot on the CW that in the end never got picked up by the network . It would've been so interesting to see what would've happened with Erica had she stayed on the show .
I feel like both Erica and Cora had potential to be really interesting on their own and for the characters around them but we got stuck with Malia who.. in my opinion.. turned out to be a pretty one note character who mainly switched love interests and never evolved. Like her car crash/coyote story was great and it was obvious that's what the character was there for originally. One story. It's like they decided well everyone left let's stop trying. Let's also make her a long lost Hale bc we're out of ideas.
My favorite personal butterfly effect revolves around teen wolf. In middle school everyone like teen wolf and my friends requested I watch it. I watched the first season and fell in LOVE with Jackson. This promoted me to start a big crush on a guy at my school that looked like him and because he was in this special program called SSA.m, I decided to join. This caused me to change home rooms and I was seated next to a girl. At the time we became really good friends and I made a Spotify playlist for her on the last day of school because she was going to a different high school than me. On the same day she introduced me to a friend who happened to be bisexual (my first introduction to some one bi) and two years after that (after some reflecting) I realized I was bi sexual too and that I had a crush on that girl I sat next to in home room. So if teen wolf didn’t exist I probably wouldn’t have known I was bisexual or found my first girl crush 😀
As the Marie in this video, I have never felt more special from a video; And even better from one of my favorite people Julia ♥️. I’ll finally give her the credit she deserve and say she did help me see the light on Stydia 6 years ago. And that version of me from 4 years ago in those reaction clips is my sleep paralysis demon. Glad all non-Maries enjoyed this video as much as I did 👏🏼👏🏼
A MARIE THAT IS ALSO WATCHING THIS VIDEO I FEEL SO SEEN
This is so cute. I too, grew close to my friends through our love of this wolf TV show❤️❤️hope you're doing well
Marie please convince your friend to name her call her fans Marie's
Holiday in Handcuffs Full Movie what movie name
Hahah I literally just finished Jenny’s video and now I’m on to this one😂
stiles growing his hair out from a buzz cut was a cultural reset
He's cute either way.
so true
Yasss
True I was recently rewatching and I was like wtf best believe your bitch was confused
He looked so much better with longer hair
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Teen Wolf sprinted so that Riverdale could stumble drunkenly into traffic
lmao plssss not the river dale slander
@@Tominzay oh no no, i’m not saying that like it’s a bad thing! i adore riverdale
@@myettechase ur fine! I totally get the joke im not a huge riverdale fan myself. 😂😭
Oh no not the teen wolf slander
The accuracy
So we all agree, Dylan O’Brien deserved an Emmy for season 3
YES
yup
Yes he is the best actor in Teen Wolf and the S3b shows that
100%
100%! He honestly progressed so much as an actor in such a sort time when you consider he started out doing silly UA-cam videos before Teen Wolf. I just really hope he gets recognition for his talent one day
the real question: if derek was an adult, did he pay taxes? was he employed? how do you file your taxes if you live in the ruins of your house? do the members of your pack count as dependables?
wait why am i dying laughing at these questions??😭 like of all the things
I was thinking about this the other day. Did he have a job? At all? Did he still own all the property in the forest?
Derek's money came from the Hale vault that had 117 million dollars in it and in season 3 he bought a whole condo complex so he doesn't live in the ruins of the Hale house anymore because it now belongs to the district for deconstruction.
i hate that i have thought about this but: he wasn't employed, as he lived off his family's inherited wealth (and probably didn't spend much anyway lol). i guess he paid property tax on his loft with that money, too. not sure about the hale house. in the pilot he tells scott and stiles that it's 'private property', but by season 3 the district council is demolishing it. it's unclear whether it was ever legally his, or if it was laura's and he was just squatting there after she died?
the pack thing is also interesting. we know next to nothing about boyd and erica's home lives, and nothing about isaac's except that he's orphaned after his dad dies. it's implied that they live with derek, though, because isaac has nowhere to go after derek kicks him out (and no one seems worried about boyd and erica's families when they get kidnapped). i assume that none of that was legal. i guess we just have to assume they were all emancipated...? lol.
this the funniest thing i have ever read thank you
As a testament to stiles popularity, as someone who never had any interest in the show, I thought he was the main character
I knew he wasn't the main. There is never a cult following for the main.
I've never watched the show and I was surprised to find out that Dylan's character was not the main character.
@@henrywayne5724lol that’s so true.
But he basically was a main character cause Scott needed stiles to do anything and vice versus they are a duo can’t have one without the other. The friendship is what made the show thrive for me.
say what you want about teen wolf but i consider "my mom does all the grocery shopping" one of the funniest lines in tv ever
I completely forgot about it so when it came in the video I had to pause and laugh for a good five minutes. and then all of the gifs form tumblr flashed before my eyes
I love that line 😂it’s just an honest answer from Scott
"WHERE do YOU get your JUICE?"
"..."
"..."
"mY mOm DoEs AlL tHe GrOcErY sHoPpIng" with julia's straight face TOOK ME OUT-
the way that jackson delivered that line makes it one of the most cringe worthy, iconic and hilarious scenes in the entirety of teen wolf🥴
I can accept the werewolves, I can accept the mad scientist chimeras, I can even accept the weird "never existed" reality bending... but the most unbelievable aspect of this show is how important lacrosse is to it. Like, seriously, out of all sports?
Alright but that was the BEST PART
lacrosse is a big thing in new england and throughout some of the southern states, so i would say it’s pretty realistic and refreshing
@@dimitrescusmaiden sure but the show takes place in northern california
@@dimitrescusmaiden they were in Cali though.
I am just happy football was not the thing as usual
“three female characters with sapphic energy crushing on stiles”
i watched teen wolf in my comphet years and had massive crush on stiles so i call it #representation
I feel like everybody had a crush on stiles regardless of sexuality, he was that powerful
@@thetruth830 it's just dylan's charm
@@denji5426 lmao agreed
Same. Nowadays, my comfortably sapphic self sees it as the solidarity it was.
I had such a big crush on him and I'm pretty gay now lol but I still like him
met a dude outside a club once years ago who was like "do you watch teen wolf?" and when i answered yes immediately took his jacket off and showed me his identical tattoo to Tyler Posey's one. wonder what he's up to now
probably blinded himself
@@wacksonjittemore4013 😂😂😂
@@wacksonjittemore4013 damn bro 😂😂
Some of my younger male cousins got into lacrosse because of Teen Wolf.
I have that tattoo, got Derek’s too….
one of the things i like about lydia being a banshee is that her power comes from something that is traditionally viewed as feminine or weak - screaming. But for lydia, who was introduced as the *vapid pretty girl* but come to find out there's more to her, screaming is what makes her powerful
Yes! And her introduction of her powers reinforced the “hysterical” framing of women. She just survived an assault & people were literally joking about her running around naked...like what?
yesss...!! Lydia was my favorite female lead and I **loved** the way her character developed over the show. I admire how the directors didn't just put her in the backburner like they did Kira or kill her off. Lydia stayed an important character to the plot.
Honestly her character feels like Summer from the O.C. to a T. And their her dyamics with Stiles feels so alike to Seth and Summer. I wonder if the show runners of Teen Wolf were involved with the O.C. also?
P.S. I already know that the show runners of the O.C. also created Gossip Girl, so maybe all these shows have something in common.
... but why? We never learn why she is a banshee, what that even means at all. Lydia became a strong character the second she decided she didn't need to pretend to be dumb. What did the banshee powers add but more confusion that was never explained?
She also doesn't sacrifice her love of traditionally feminine things as she becomes more mature and powerful. Her "girliness" wasn't portrayed as "holding her back."
This is like... the sister video to Jenny Nicholson's Vampire Diaries video. I am so stoked to watch the entire hour and a half
she uploaded it when i was halfway done with my script and it felt like fate
obligatory i love jenny nicholson, banger comment op comment
@@juliacudney it really was meant to be!!
i was gonna say that too! as soon as i saw her video i was like damn i wish someone did a teen wolf video like this, and then julia announced she had been working on a teen wolf video for a bit and i was like wow, this is magic
Omg I was literally thinking this
excuse me can we talk about how colton haynes coming out as gay and jackson being retconned to be gay/bi was a blessing cause come on him having a crush on scott explains season one soooooo much
Him hate staring at Scott nonstop in s1 screamed enemy to lovers like 👀 you’re not sneaky Jackson
please he was so into scott
They kinda teased it with Danny in season 2 like Jackson has a gay best friend, and he tells Danny he’s everyone’s type
and lydia being like “fucking finally” was just chefs kiss
Dylan is the only actor on this show to deliver a yelling line and actually instill fear rather than second-hand embarrassment
We gotta love the girlboss moment when Alison’s mom kills herself via stabbing because she doesn’t want to be like *other girls* that overdose
An inspiring moment for young girls everywhere 💞
....yikes (I've never seen teen wolf besides a couple eps of S3 and lots of fanfic hah, but Julia's voice is so so soothing and that's enjoyable to me, but as someone who has attempted several times.. just yikes)
I thought she killed herself because the Hunters are not allowed to live as Supernatural creatures. Are you saying there was more?
@@franciscoancer2618 that was the reason, but due to supernatural creatures not being known they were gonna pass it off as an ordinary suicide, and chris says something along the lines of "most women overdose on pills" and allison's mum says nah and decides to stab herself on her daughter's bed
@@jowjaaa4963 Thanks for that clarification.
I would like the writers to know that I am reminded of the line where Stiles points out that Scott's jawline is uneven every single time I look at Tyler Posey so thanks for that I guess
That line was improvised, so that's all Dylan's fault, not the writers
@@32fps I didn't know that thanks Dylan I guess lol
Lol way before the show I used to call him snehaka which means something like askew chin, straight up what me and my friend always called him
@@Karin-fj3eu what language is the word snehaka? this may be my favourite word now
lol I have the same jaw problem as him so it’s weirdly comforting to me that wonky jaws are being normalized a bit there
the fact that Scott's dad is never mentioned in this video is truly divine but Melissa being left out is tragic
i care so little about scott's dad i swear... i do regret not mentioning melissa more often!
@@juliacudney Scott’s dad plays very much into Scott’s character.
Who was Scott’s dad. I don’t remember
@@strangerr13 An FBI agent that shows up in season 3 at some point. I loved to call him Agent Douchecanoe
Yh the parents should of been mention more defo Scott’s mom & stiles dad
have i ever seen teen wolf? no
do i like the idea of watching teen wolf? no
do i want to know about teen wolf? not really
will i listen to 1 hour and 44 minutes of julias soothing voice and good analysis whilst i clean my room? absolutely
I am enjoying it so much I didn't even realize it was more than twenty minutes 😂
i was just about to comment the same sentiment
exactlyyyyy
Periodt.
@@wiretheater2536 i was like, i'mgoing to watch this 20 minutes video before starting my homework, oh gosh 😂
It’s funny that you see Scott and Allison relationship problem as Scott might kill Allison, but I hate their relationship because Allison constantly tries to kill Scott. Like every season Allison was convinced by her family to kill her boyfriend and other friends.
yeah I was actually fine with their break up because of that
I honestly only looked Alysson when they broke up and she became her own self. And because I liked Isaac more than Scott, just because he had an accent
literally, though also the age difference between the actors was so jarring. To the point where if the genders were reversed people would consider it gross.
@@D3niz3n
I don't know I didn't even realize they were that far apart in age
Okay so it’s not just me who thought Scallison was a bit toxic I mean she did try to kill him like twice and after that their relationship was never the same. Alison wasn’t interesting she was just a hunter to me I only started to like in the third season
"Divine move. Divine move? You think you have any moves AT ALL? You can kill the oni but me? ME? IM A THOUSAND YEARS OLD. YOU CANT KILL ME" Is probably my favorite none comedic line from Teenwolf.
Everytime I remember that Teen Wolf is Dylan's *first* acting gig, I am still blown away.
@@colt9836 wow, really??
@@danid7367 Yes, he was 17 in season one, iirc.
The jeep that Stiles uses is actually Dylan's own car that he owned for over a decade.
I'm late to the party replying to this comment, but I'm with you there. In the hands of a lesser actor this would have been the goofiest, most over dramatic moment ever, but Dylan completely nailed it.
Honestly I randomly remembered about that scene the other day and I had to watch season 3B again LOL
ive refused to accept that scott and malia are endgame. in my mind scott ended up with kira i take no criticisms
Yes, she never left EVER and they're married.
Kira was robbed, I was so disappointed to find out she never even came back
yeah, i actually think all the canon pairings sucks haha. stiles should be with derek (tho I'd excuse stalia), scott with kira, and lydia with either parish or should be lesbian (I'd prefer her as a lesbian tbh)
I literally forgot they ended up toguether until this video reminded me
Guess everyone is different then, I loved malia and just didn’t really like Kira at all.. nothing against Kira, just found her boring and not a good match for Scott. I think everyone knew Stiles and Lydia were endgame, so I’m happy she ended up with Scott. I mean, after all, he’s the one who literally turned her back into a human
"we didn't hate her at all! we just wanted her to read the lesbian master doc" is such a great way to describe a lot of female love interests on teen dramas
💀💀💀
What is lesbian master doc ....Are ppl saying the malia was gay because i really thought she was going to be gay. Also really mad that they dressed shelly hinig in the actual alison clothes
@@itowilltube its a Google document you can access its called 'am I a lesbian'
@@abirami9481 sounds like sarcasms. But will check it t out the thing is Jeff Davis is actual white gay man who said homophobia didn't exist in becon hills but made specific gay tropes but didn't use the natural chemistry of the main male characters. He was spiteful because he did not see sterek and he also tried to place diversify but didn't do basic respect towards biopoc cast
@@itowilltube oh I only watched 6a and divine move lol. I just read the fan fiction(every single Theo POV one I read just...changes me as a person) and what you say does make sense. Every time Danny is mentioned it is accompanied by some statement about his sexuality. This explains why I liked the later seasons better. Davis did not have much control over those.
Petition for Julia to start calling her fans “Marie’s”
honestly think it's the funniest fan name ever
“Maries” with no apostrophe :) i think this is cute tho
@@brightergreens6382 It kinda reminds me of how Danny Gonzalez calls his fans Greg
cosign
Signed
i will never forgive the directors of teen wolf for not putting isaac in the intro, not even in season 3, and only putting chris, melissa and sheriff stilinski in the intro of season 6.
I’m so sorry but “Arden Cho’s banishment to the desert” is such a funny phrase Arden Cho honey I’m so sorry that they would do you like that
Can you imagine I’ve never watched a single episode of this show but knew all the plot points because of ao3 and tumblr
me with tvd before i started watching it the other day
this is me but with Supernatural
no bc same i only know anything about it bc of ao3
Ngl this is me with any show
So jelous, my lack of context to ALL of the damn plot points were precisely what stoped me from indulging in ao3 teen wolf, cause I just wont watch none of this!
cant believe you didnt include the “i’m a thousand years old, you cant kill me!” scene... 😭 still have chills anytime i see it again. he really did deserve an emmy
dylan o'brien as void stiles supremacy
But who killed him??? KIRA
Tumblr made me believe that the Stiles guy was the main character and was shacking up with Mr. Tragic Loiter so I'm very confused at the way this video is shaking out 20 minutes in.
Same
same but I blame Wattpad. I went in, saw the first ep and then went on ao3, and never watched another episode ever again.
@@literaIIyshy AU Future fics are so much better than the actual plot anyways lol.
"mr tragic loiter" this is amazing... please can you name the rest of the characters i wanna see what you think they're called
in 2017 one of my room-mates fan of the show got me and our other room-mates to watch TW for the series finale coming that summer. All my previous knowledge of TW was also from Tumblr so I was 100% sure that Stiles was the protagonist and had a semi-canonic-waiting-to-happen relationship with Derek . When I saw that, in fact, Scott was the protagonist, I was confused bc for real I've never seen that dude in my life but oh well, at least I saw from where the Sterek shippers where coming. By the time Derek got a gf and then leaves the show indefinitely (so around s4?) I was super confused again so I turn to my friend to ask him about it and he said that they were never canon and it wasn't gonna happen so lmao imagine my disappointment.
As Mike's Mic finishes his Pretty Little Liars videos, the holy trinity of 2000's-2010's teen dramas has been spoken about in extreme detail.
Special thanks to Jenny Nicholson's THE vampire diaries video, miss Julia Cudney for this video, and Mike's unhinged PLL recap
This comment deserves more appreciation 🤣
I think we can all agree that 3B was some of the best script and story writing of the entire series and Dylan did an out of the world job as Void
Thank you for actually appreciating Kira’s character, cus Arden Cho and Kira Yukimura definitely deserved better
Totally! Loved her acting props, and wished she wasn’t portrayed to be so Scott-centric.
@@jessekeiser100 right, she had SO much potential to be the most powerful character ever
Kira was sooooo boring
@@cristina9202 to you I guess but like I thought she was very interesting once you looked into her character
There is nothing boring about her she was one of the most interesting because of who she was supernaturally and it was pretty cool that they made her character not just a werewolf apart of the pack. Kira deserved better
not me crying at someone else referencing that one time scott wrote alison's initials on the shelves
I'm very glad I'm not the only one who teared up at that scene
i sobbed when i watched it, it ddnt help that right after with the credits it was dedicated to Tylers mom who passed away. I was SOBBING and my mom looked at me like I was crazy, and I was like you don't undertanddddddd i made my phone password the numbers that spell SMAA lmao
We don’t need a season seven for teen wolf I just want the the Kira spin off that they were talking about because the way they dropped her storyline like that was unacceptable her character has sm potential.
THANK YOU THANK YOU SOMEONE AGREES
@@Kirasfox Right!! people are putting all their energy into just getting one season of teen wolf but if we get the Kira spin off we could get multiple seasons with the chance of getting to see some of the OG actors
I hated kira lol she was so bland I didn't care for her whole storylime
@@cristina9202 No one can be more bland than Malia or Corey
@@Kirasfox yes malia was annoying too. I only liked Corey with his bf but alone be was boring
“fans believing this dead and buried series will resurrect itself if we just tweet hard enough”
me: *when they announced the teen wolf movie coming in 2022* bestie im a afraid to tell you this!
I read this comment right as it was being played
I'm never forgiving the fandom for bullying Arden and hating Kira FOR NO REASON :) also Arden shouldn't have been kicked off the way she was. Jeff legitimately said he wanted a spinoff :) still. Salty. Even. After . All .these YEARS
So obviously most of the teenagers are played by adults but it kind of scares me that it has one of the best portrayals of teenagers in teen dramas. Especially after season two, their wardrobes are on point. I would wear almost every thing Kira and Malia wear and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen sweaters on my classmates that are very similar to the pug one Lydia has and the heart one Allison has. Also, with the exception of Lydia the canonical genius, they all struggled with school. People act like Malia got caught up to everything very quickly but she most definitely did not and the scene where Allison breaks down to the sheriff was surprisingly relatable.,
I wanted to dress like Allison so bad lol, I used to make Polyvore sets of all the characters outfits. I actually bought a purple sweater with unicorns on it from Target that Lydia wore once lmao, it was on sale. Could never afford her $1K Celine bag though lol oop.
@@pagesinked dude i still wanna dress like season 3 allison lmao
@@ariyatabassumabdullah1143 aaannnddd I’m being read yet again 😂 LOVED her looks haha
@@jessekeiser100 haha she was an underrated fashion icon. also let's not forget the layered wavy haircut she got in that season. it's so chic.
@@ariyatabassumabdullah1143 yoo I deadass got the exact same haircut as her(does not work well in my poofy curly hair but who cares)
Can we all agree that stiles aka dylan o'brien was the backbone of this show? I started watching it just because of him lol so maybe I'm being a little subjective here.
No really, he was. And it was evident in Season 6B more than ever. Something was definitely missing. When he returned in the last episode it felt whole again. Like he brought so much energy to that show, he really deserves his flowers
TOTALLY the show would be nothing without him that’s why s6 was so bad
It's really weird bc the writers gave Stiles all the plot beats you're supposed to give the main character. Like they developed Stiles as this funny, brave, emotional, clever person. And didn't do anything with Scott. Like the show is literally set up for him to be your fave.
Not really.... I mean he was more of a comedic relief than anything.
@@insertstutterthatsallfolks7486 LMAOOO I don't want to say opinions are wrong but...your opinion is wrong
i’ve never watched teen wolf but the explanation of how the wolf stuff works just feels like heterosexual omegaverse
i hate myself for knowing what that means lmao
@@mms2855 ditto 🤣
*Addison Cain wants to know your location
It feels like Teen Wolf *should* have been where the internet got its idea of the skelleton of the genre... but apparatnly it comes from Supernatural (I assume from an episode with werewolves)
@@emiliobustamante2401
Seriously, the genesis of the genre (the actual one not the heterosexual nonsense) should have been a sterek fic
One indisputable thing about this show though. No matter if you loved this show or hated it. The opening intro sequence?? With that music??? And the visuals??? STUNNING. Ate that shit up EVERYTIMEE
does anyone remember those tumblr recap blogs that peaked in popularity during season 3a/3b who would just do screenshots with comic sans of each episode the day after it aired? peak comedy at the time
Ah I remember these!! Seems like it was yesterday tbh
captaindanmit´s recaps of the last seasons are the only reason I even know what happened in the show 😂😂 They were so funny
this awoke such deeply buried memories in me asddsdfdsdf
oh god do you remember the crack videos on youtube ? indeed peak comedy at the time
@brit lol i only found out about those last year and I GOBBLED THEM UPPPP
One thing that i didn't like was the show's ridiculously high body count. It was hard to feel like anything that happened was significant or suspenseful when there was a horrifying massacre every 5 minutes that no one seemed to really care about.
actually tho. like why is anyone even still living there. after the first 3 serial killers/mass murderers in my town i wouldve noped the fuck out. at this point all the residents are just like "oh yeah paul was killed in last weeks massacre, what a shame :/".
Why would anyone ever go to the Beacon Hills hospital for help, that's where all the bad shit happens. It got so bad that most fanfictions even have the characters (usually Stiles) mention that the hospital got a bad reputation
THE POLICE STATION MASSACRE ALONE
tvd is this but like 100x worse
Honestly they coulda just came up with some bullshit reason to explain that away. Like 'the nameton or whatever it's called influences the towns judgement and so the massacres aren't seen as something to worry about'
smell that?? it’s the aroma of my new feature film length comfort video about a supernatural teen show i’ve never seen
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So I'm not the only one who feverishly rewatches Jenny's TVD video
Jenny and Julia saving me in the last vestiges of lockdown
@@robbiesmith8055 I’m about to re-watch it now! 😅
Dylan also deserves an award for his performance after he kills donovan. The silence spoke so loud. It was incredible
Oh my golly YES! Legit he has like no spoken lines for that first 13 minutes or so of the episode, and he absolutely NAILS it!
I was waiting for her to mention that- I don't think he spoke a single word for like the first 15 minutes, yet his silent acting alone was so powerful I was just SO tense throughout it all, I practically forgot to breathe. It's one of my favourite episodes of both the season AND the show. In fact, Stiles's whole arc with the murder was the saving grace of season 5 for me.
@@thetruth830 Your name is very accurate, because you are spilling the TRUTH 👏
@@marinbel hence the name :)
Oh my God, seeing that "You're not here to kill me, you're here to protect me" scene just reawakened the Teen Wolf fan in me, like some kind of primal animal spirit. Fuck me, 3B was so good, and we were all so full of hope after it.
That season is the GOAT!!!!!!!!
i am so convinced that riverdale saw what teen wolf got away with in the last season and decided they could do it worse
All this video has taught me is that Tyler Posey was a lot cuter when he was younger than he is now, Dylan O’Brian existed outside of my vague recollections of the early 2010s, and that Teen Wolf miraculously maintained its high school setting throughout its entire run.
This video honestly kinda makes me wanna watch the show, and yes, it was mostly the Dylan O’Brain clips.
Dylan O'Brien is honestly a gem in this show, his Stiles led me to be a fangirl for him for quite some time and I still really like him now
Oh my god why was this video and Dylan O'Brien alone enough to intrigue both of us. I wanna watch this show just for season 3 now
Tyler Posey is and always will be cute in my eyes, talk about celebrity crush huh
Dylan and his clips of Stiles on UA-cam convinced me to watch the show
It was literally predicted in the fandom during season 3 airing that people would rewatch Teen Wolf for Dylan O’Brian. This show, to my knowledge, was also literally his first acting job.
I hated that characters would always disappear on a high moment. I would be so excited to see what happens next and they would disappear. Danny knows? Disappears. Gone. Derek. Cora. Isaac. Kira. BTS of the show must have been rough.
Literally all the most interesting characters gone until we were left with only Scott and Malia :/
I think the reason Cora disappeared was because Adelaide Kane was cast in Reign as the main protagonist. I'm pretty sure she was going to stay on for the remainder of the season until that happened.
@@rebeccacalledaliceif she stayed I think she would’ve been with stiles. I shipped them at the start of season3
I'm still mad over how they killed off Erica before the third season took off without acting on the potential her character show
They did Derek and his pack so dirty, they might have done a spin off mini-series with them instead but no we can't have nice things.
@@pagesinked fucking isaac deserved so much better, i still think about him sometimes
Erica was iconic. Tbh I loved the spin on the make over trope.
@@ariyatabassumabdullah1143 well, Daniel went to the originals lol so technically he GOT better
@@Kirasfox lmao
honestly i get why lydia was the one who pulled stiles back to reality in season 6 but……. it still should’ve been Scott imo, i mean even if stiles and lydia have an incredibly strong connection to each other and are each other’s tethered, scott and stiles are literally the heart of the show
i entered the fandom exactly on season three and it was WILD. it was so good. the drama was delectable, the angst was FANTASTIC and we were riding the wave of adrenaline every single week. god those were good times
an Era 😔☝🏼 rip teen wolf you glorious mess
In my opinion, Allison’s death began the decline of the show.
It should have made the characters stronger and marked a shift in character development but instead they didn’t mourn her at all. From then on the show became full of continuity errors, lack of character development, many characters inexplicably leaving, and an over reliance on new mythology that made no sense.
God this. But hey, they thought really hard about which leather jacket Kira should wear, doesn't that count for anything?????
i literally only got through a few episodes after she died - completely agree w u. the show went SO downhill
Many shows go on way too long, even if it's the same exact writers and producers. The longer show goes on the more likely for f**k ups to happen and eventually metastasize, corrupting the entire show.
That sounds like every CW show ever.
@@thomasraines1396 reminds me of Arrow, and the last season of The 100 and Vampire Diaries 🤡 so yeah that's true.
The CW curse
the fact that my biggest OTP ever, stydia, finally got together was the best thing that's ever happened to me.
the fact that after they got together they got almost zero interactions with each other was the worst thing that's ever happened to me. stydia shipper besties, i'm afraid to tell you this...
Me, being a sterek shipper, i understand the pain and the fact the it was in reverse is just funny to me (they had chemistry but they weren't cannon)
I FEEL THAT I FEEL THAT. I actually JUST commented a really long explanation of this exact feeling a minute ago. it makes me so mad. the way they handled stydia after s4 felt drawn out. like they kind of abandoned parts of their relationship development in certain ways from s3 and it felt unnatural with certain things as it continued. they depicted their relationship in such a emotionally investing way and to have them put them together in the last few episodes of the show and rob us of the relationship development we wanted earlier.... idk it really pisses me off that we waited so long to just get one 100% romantically driven kiss and ONE love confession and got nothing else. in the last episode of the show it didnt even feel like they were together in my mind just because we got to see so little, which makes me really sad. it didnt feel like we or they got the development they deserved and the audience didnt get the satisfaction that they kind of implied we would get. the investment wasnt worth the payout :/ i mean it was... because i love them but it also wasnt in the way they handled it.
sorry if that doesnt make sense my eyes hurt like hell rn
Love your profile
@@nataliedang1004 AND LYDIA WAS HAPPIER TO SEE JACKSON THAN SHE HAD BEEN TO SEE STILES SINCE SEASON 4- please don't get me started this makes me so mad
Yass betrayed stydia gang
Oh my god thank you for addressing the people constantly tweeting at the actors. I ran an embarrassingly popular teen wolf fanfiction blog on tumblr for like six years. As someone who also capitalized off this beautiful nightmare of a show and still has some love for it, I hope it NEVER comes back. It's honestly really sad to see people constantly harassing the actors, who (at least most of them) are just trying to get on with their lives and do other projects.
How do you feel about the movie??? Lol
@@tessa6347 I'm kind of curious in the way that I would be if I were watching a car crash about to happen. I feel like I have to watch it, but I don't have high hopes that it will be good.
@@carolinecox754 considering the fact that Dylan isn't going to be in it nor arden and dereks character makes me loose all hope
bestie i'm afraid to tell you this
malia telling scott to look at her while he was blind reminds me of that scene in buffy when giles gets knocked out for the millionth time, and cordelia tells him that one day he'll wake up in a coma. like imagine if that scene was supposed to be serious.
i am literally in the middle of my second rewatch of teen wolf. is everyone just straight up rewatching teen wolf right now like is that why dylan obrien is no.1 on famous birthdays in his age category
Idk about famous birthdays lol but I'm in the middle of a rewatch too and just got this video on my recommended. The algorithm scares me.
I’m on season 4 of my rewatch and this video popped up on my UA-cam feed.
u just inspired my 7th rewatch.
@@snail353 i strive to be nothing if not inspirational
Me and my best friend are watching right now too. About 3/4 of the way through season 1. I've never seen anything past the Kira season.
Bestie.....I'm afraid to tell you this, should have been the title.
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julia you have actually just informed me that scott & malia was endgame. how dare you
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Wait Scott and Malia are WHAT
Alonormativity at its finest. The fact that Arden for the written out for no reason and she was continued to be disrespected?!
i never watched 6B and i still cannot believe this
@@mayakoti7342 i stopped watching somewhere in season 5 and i have no desire to watch the rest
A lot of the problems around stiles story line is because they kept baiting Sterek and then tried to go "oh we weren't doing that look stiles is drooling over [insert girl]."
The fact that they made stiles bi and then didn't resolve his male love interests hurt his interactions with his female love interests by making them feel cheap.
bi erasure is real.
they did stiles' bisexuality so dirty, like
"do you like women?" "yeah." "do you like men?" "*hesitates*"
and be went "ah, yes. bi rep!"
Honestly I still think Malia/Cora was made to be a "sterek substitute." Like she's a blunt, animalistic deadpanner ......... like derek
@@wacksonjittemore4013 yeah, never liked any of the love interests for him. They feel forced? Just to tick the box. Except for Lydia, that was realistic one-sided imo
Okay I watched teen wolf when I was much younger and never saw what people saw in sterek. I do not give enough shits to go watch it now that I’m older and more aware of queercoding, but could you explain, if u don’t mind, the sterek queerbaiting elements and scenes that were in the show ? Im genuinely asking cause I don’t remember any apart from the cousin miguel scene ahah :)
I'm glad that no matter what we think about everything else everybody can pretty much agree that Dylan O'Brien's 3B nogitsune performance was a cultural reset and is still The Standard for all actors everywhere
I’ve never seen teen wolf but I am very excited to watch an hour and 40 minute long video about it
Teen Wolf is such a good show. You should check it out 😊
lol meeeee
same though
@@lightish3754 Shrek 2 - The Movie (3D Disney Animation) what movie name
Same, for some reason my 8 yo cousin was such a big fan of the show and she spoiled me many of the deaths and I didn’t want to watch it 😬
this video was a wild ride i kept going back and forth between "should i rewatch teen wolf? did i actually fucking love this show? was it a blast?" and "nah i made the right choice to never even finish this nonsense"
Same
Same
now that I think about it, all the teen shows are a mess, pretty little liars is a big example of mess and clownery lol
Watch it but just know the peak for many people is season 3 i wouldn't go pay for it but if it's on netflix and you have account. It's ok. I hate how dirty the did arden cho and the black actors. Like Bianca Lawson. She is so talented but i feel like she is sidelined. She should been a vilian.
@@itowilltube it’s on Hulu
I was a stan of this show from the premiere to season 4. I got my best friend into it and we were convinced we’d make it to Hollywood where I’d marry Tyler Posey and she’d marry Dylan O’Brien. I wish I was kidding
This is literally the same story with my best friend
To this day we get nostalgic🤍
Well, if you've got dreams, might as well make them big ones lol.
Even from just reading fanfiction of the show i could always tell when they failed to capture stiles' humor--he's almost always really charming even in fic, which really shows how strong his characterization is
the best thing about bisexual stiles is that I can ship him lydia in the show aka the canon and with derek in fanon, because I feel like the show and the fanfic world created by fans are literally two completely different things and some fics are even better lol
IKR I gave up the show like the 4th season, and only read future fic AUs where Stiles is in college or a cop or an FBI agent lmao
So glad I am not the only one who did that. I always shipped Stydia in the show and I see Stiles as bisexual but Sterek was def something better explored in fanfics and outside the show. For the age gap alone.
@@jobruhkai3745 LMAO i wouldn't reccomend, a lot of them are mpreg timetravel omegaverse and they're so weird pls
@@thetruth830 some of them are weird yeah, but you get that in every fandom and with every ship tbh, there are some really good ones out there!
@@gabydelgh please I would but I have SUCH a specific idea for what an ideal fanfic for all my ships would be I’m never satisfied lmao
I've been very ashamed of liking teen wolf and being over 18 years old but everytime I spill this secret, my grand confession of this self indulgence, the big "okay, I have to come clean, I like teen wolf" everyone, even the most unexpected people just say "yeah, me too" and I am delighted every time
It might be a bit embarassing to admit liking it but golly idc, this show makes me so unexplicably happy
@@coconutshrimpy everybody secretly likes teen wolf
I couldn't let go of teen wolf for two years after in ended. Another ship finally fed my obsession.
I just have to point out the absolute LOOK julia is serving here, like the hair & makeup is giving!!
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I never finished the series and you did just inform me of Malia and Scott ending up together and wow did I not need that in the year of our lord 2021
SAME now i want to know how in the clusterfuck did that happen bcs in my mind they were literally cousins or something. need to finish the show asap.
@@katleiz same omg i’m in the middle of watching s5 ep 19 at this very moment and i see absolutely no hints of them being together - i’m confused to say the least
Would have made more sense to make Scott bisexual and have him hook up with Issac or bring Kira back. There’s no chemistry with Malia.
@@shayla106 Scott and Malia make absoulety 100% no sense it's crackhead ship tbh
the "alpha pack is what it sounds like it is... a pack of alphas" cut to "a pack of 'em... an alpha pack" part had me ROLLING, idk why that's so funny
Derek's character deserved better. He had a good background story and had the potentials to be subversive. If only they let him integrate into the series and with other characters.
How would you subvert him?
Malia: Hey, hey, hey, look at me
Scout's missing eyes: And I took that personally.
As someone who has panic attacks if someone kissed me in the midst of one I’d probably faint and not in a good way either.
i always wondered how that would actually go lol
I would throw hands reflexively lol
I would literally punch them if someone kissed me mid panic attack
That'd make my panic attack worse
I cannot tell you how many times I've rewatched 3B. Like I remember watching the show back in high school and then just being absolutely blown away by Dylan O'Brien's performance. I'm pretty sure void Stiles is the reason why I started liking shadowy and deceptive characters (the tears in front of Scott's mom, the pleading not to kill him). Like I still am so impressed with him, he was leagues past that show.
I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say I think I've memorized each episode of 3B. I know exactly what's going to happen, how it'll play out when it'll play out-I nearly know all the lines because it's just that good. And Dylan O' Brian somehow always impresses me, every time I watch it, he's actually incredible and the fact that he didn't even get nominated is genuinely a crime. And not like a "they should have gotten an Oscar!" for a mediocre performance type of statement, he _genuinely_ should have gotten an Emmy/GG nomination at _least._
@@thetruth830 I think he and Hoechlin were literally the best actors on that show. imo O'Brien is a natural, but he really came into his own/shined as the Nogitsune -- he really should have been nominated for those eps. They're also the two most successful TW alumni -- both went on to star in big budget feature films and/or critically acclaimed indie flicks, and/or critically acclaimed recurring TV roles. Compared to what the others have done since, it's kind of no contest -- and no surprise.
@@verushka70 I 100% agree, I genuinely believe he deserved an Emmy or something else for season 3B.
Season 1-2 were the original and have the original vibes from the show, season 3-4 was where the show peaked in its potential and had the best lore and storylines, and season 5-6 really declined in quality and it felt like it just dragged on
the transition from Kate screaming & loading her gun to a video-game-Jill Wagner on Wipeout was masterful
Literally did a spit take when Malia asked blind Scott to look at her
lol he probs snapped out of his panic because of the sheer tomfoolery that was that comment
I was like.... they are not seriously doing this I don’t even know HOW they got together it never made sense but for her to heal him???✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼 maam take a step back pls
@@Taf0201 well it didn’t make sense with the Stiles and Lydia panic attack kiss either, so...
I genuinely spat laughed when she added the sound effect too LMFAO
@@amy.m7753 but it made MORE sense
I had totally forgotten Scott and Malia were a thing, I think that says quite a few things
I never like their relationship
So my biggest issue with the show was definitely the treatment of Arden but they also had a huge problem with keeping track of ages. Allison was 18 when she died because she was older than everyone else and has an early birthday but whenever you look her up it says she was 17. Liam was two years younger than them. Why was he a senior in season six?! Then again, I guess I can’t really fault the writers on that since the fandom‘s biggest ship was between a sophomore in high school and a full grown adult. And no one thought that was creepy.
i think mostly because it was like a 5year difference and since the actors were older it didn't seem so inappropriate. that's one of the problems with casting adults as children, it's hard to see them as minors when they're fully grown and have chemistry with each other
@@denied7616 oh yeah for sure. It still freaks me out though. No the actors only have a four year age difference but for the characters it’s like eight I think.( I might have just imagine that number but regardless he is still a full grown adult ) and people hate student teacher romances on TV shows. Rightfully so but they age differences are usually around the same so it just weirds me out that no one has a problem with this one.
@@alicat7633 maybe because derek never really acted like a mature person, he was much closer to emotionally stunted jackson than to any of the actual adults in the show
@@denied7616 so? Still an adult. Still much older than Stiles. Plus, I’m pretty sure the trauma of having your entire family minus 3 people ( One who turned out to be evil who murdered another one and not knowing about the third) be burned alive might be why he acts so weird. It would still be predatory if he actually dated Stiles.
@@alicat7633 okay? i mean you said you didn't understand why people shipped them and didn't see it as predatory, i was just giving you a hypothesis. no need to get snippy about it lol
In conclusion: Coach carried the show.
Dylan O'Brien ate season 3B up, he deserved an Emmy!!!
do NOT get me started on the ending. i’m still pissed
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@@Tuffimoviecorner huh??
@@majinally3527 Shrek 2 - The Movie (3D Disney Animation) what movie name plz
Honestly they should’ve just left the ending for 6A. It was literally perfect, we had the closure we needed and the happy ending we deserved. They literally tried so hard to shove season 6B down our throats it was so bad.
@@KenKen-hl3gr Plus Dylan O'Brian wasn't even there at all except for the last episode, which dragged it down even more
as someone who stopped watching shortly after they killed Allison, learning everything that happened afterwards is so insane
SAME i feel so lost
Yup I spoiled it for myself at first since I found out she was gonna die while watching season 1 and I was kinda happy, but when I got to season 3 I wanted her to live. Haven’t made it past season 4 episode 1 since.
i loved alison so much i stopped watching after she died, and i was a rabid fan. looks like i got some catching up to do
This isn’t related to ur comment but Stalia deserved endgame. Lydia treated stiles like shit and ignored him for 3 seasons when he always complimented her, Malia genuinely loved him and looked attracted to stiles. Toxic Stidya fans made the writers ruin the show, Like what’s the point in putting stiles together with a girl who never reciprocated. And in the walking dead the best relationship was a rushed one. Stalia were meant to be and was the only ship I was actually interested in on the whole show. I’m still bitter people think lydia deserves stiles smh when stiles would’ve left her for dead when he had Malia
as someone who has always aspired to make a youtube channel for the sole purpose of creating videos trying to make sense of the plot of teen wolf, i adore and appreciate this video. we didn't deserve this
Likewise
I get the showrunners' motive behind not wanting to have "mainstream" supernatural beings such as witches, vampires, etc but as the seasons dragged on and they seemed to be making up new creatures on the spot it became kinda ridiculous 😭
Right??? It seems like they try to step back further from the cliches and the campyness, but in the effort to do so, they just end up making it even more stupid and campy. I don’t understand these shows insistence on trying to make these supernatural tropes “serious” and “mature”(especially bcuz they almost always seem to equate “mature” with sex, drugs and scandal, which is just ridiculous for any show about teenagers). Like, enough with the “different takes” on supernatural mythology, just embrace the cliches! Go back to the basics! It would be so much more interesting to see that 😭🙄😫
@@danielaaraujo7759 This is hella late but I just wanted to slightly refute this statement by saying that Teen Wolf had very interesting creatures that they had no idea what to do with. Like instead of pushing Lydia going for a fields medal they could've had her preparing to be the best homicide detective in the world. Rather than having kitsune be just some random throw in(no matter how much I love them) one of them could have taught philosophy and morals and had their students questioning everything. The hunt should honestly be thrown away, like I'm sorry but why are you downplaying something that terrorized an entire people with "ghost cowboys". The Dread Doctors could've doubled as really fantastic immortal hunters(they would've been terrifying). So while I love the mainstream creatures I don't want to downplay the cool ideas we could've got from Teen Wolf!
Teen Wolf was always good at bare bones. The bare bones of the storys and characters tend to be interesting, but Teen Wolf absolutely fails to explore them in a compelling way.
So many good characters, so much wasted potential.
@@pagesinked No fucking wonder it has such a large Ao3 community.
The thing about the Noshiko flashback, was that she was around 850 years old, but she looked like she was Kira's age. Fifty years later, she looked like a fifty year old. How quickly do the kitsunes age?
That just didn't make sense to me.
maaaaagic.
Yeah that never made much sense to me. I rewatched teen wolf a few months ago and I just created this headcanon that she gave up her kitsune powers when she married in order to grow old with him, Arwen from lord of the rings style
@@Jojo-no4ng I like this
I mean, it's also kinda implied that she isn't as strong as she was back then or even compared to Kira so maybe trapping and defeating the nogitsune the first time around took a lot out of her, which is why she ages like a normal human being now. (but I also love the idea that she deliberately chooses not to age so that she can grow old with her husband)
what a way to discover arden cho is in the selection adaptation
I KNOW. but I think it may not be true bc the rest of the cast listened on IMDB is from the canceled tv series pilot from like 7 years ago and the new Netflix adaptation is supposed to be a movie. I’d love to see her in it though honestly cast Arden Cho as America she might actually be likable lmao
Season 3 will always be my favorite. It's just something about the plot with the nogitsune and void stiles as well as the humor.
void stiles is just mmmmm goodness
Oh and btw, it was at the time very well known that Shelley Henning was brought into the show because her family sort of ... paid her way in.
And her friend she played with Britt Robertson in the secret circle was dating Dylan O'Brien and they were friends beforehand..
There was definitely racism involved in cutting off kira
“I SPEAK FOR THE MARIE’S” I-😭😭 0:53
honestly, after season 3 i just pretend the show ended, i don’t remember much from that point on. and now i want to rewatch this series
I started watching Teen Wolf because I saw lots of Sterek content on Tumblr and I thought it was an actual couple. 🤧
SAME OMG
Bestie.....I'm afraid to tell you this
Just 15 mintes in right now, with no previous knowledge of the show. Im very curious to see if there was any queerbaity stuff about it (I ssume Julia will talk about it if they did)
Same thing but with Thiam
@@emiliobustamante2401 it was mostly queerbaited by the cast during interviews and convention panels
That bit you mentioned about how Liem was bullied for being outed as a werewolf was obviously a metaphor for being gay/queer. TV shows that have humans and supernatural creatures co exist always do this, and it almost never works. UA-camr Jack Saint made a video discussing the problem with using animals as metaphors for racism. Unlike humans, there are fundamental difference between carnivores and herbivores. A mouse has every right be scared of a bear. That bear might be nice, but the mouse can’t ignore the obvious size and strength difference. Unless they’re trained hunters, humans have no chance of defending themselves against werewolves. So comparing werewolves to gay/queer people is kinda bad.
yeah but the metaphor doesn't work in teen wolf because there are several explicitely gay characters who face no discrimintaion in the teen wolf universe.
And Liam himself is straight??
i just remember stopping the show after allison got killed off bc i had a huge crush on crystal reed lmao
I still do tbh, I wanted to watch the Swamp Creature show she was supposed to be on, but IDK if they ever aired it on CW.
Apparently Gage Golightly left the show to go audition for a pilot on the CW that in the end never got picked up by the network . It would've been so interesting to see what would've happened with Erica had she stayed on the show .
They would have still ruined it tbh
The CW took Adelaide from us too ugh
I feel like both Erica and Cora had potential to be really interesting on their own and for the characters around them but we got stuck with Malia who.. in my opinion.. turned out to be a pretty one note character who mainly switched love interests and never evolved. Like her car crash/coyote story was great and it was obvious that's what the character was there for originally. One story. It's like they decided well everyone left let's stop trying. Let's also make her a long lost Hale bc we're out of ideas.
I've only ever watched ~3 episodes of Teen Wolf but "My mom does all the grocery shopping" has stuck with me for years. That shit was hilarious.
its the recreations at the beginning of every season for me
My favorite personal butterfly effect revolves around teen wolf.
In middle school everyone like teen wolf and my friends requested I watch it. I watched the first season and fell in LOVE with Jackson. This promoted me to start a big crush on a guy at my school that looked like him and because he was in this special program called SSA.m, I decided to join. This caused me to change home rooms and I was seated next to a girl. At the time we became really good friends and I made a Spotify playlist for her on the last day of school because she was going to a different high school than me. On the same day she introduced me to a friend who happened to be bisexual (my first introduction to some one bi) and two years after that (after some reflecting) I realized I was bi sexual too and that I had a crush on that girl I sat next to in home room. So if teen wolf didn’t exist I probably wouldn’t have known I was bisexual or found my first girl crush 😀
STILES CARRIED THE SHOW ON HIS BACK . Made me feel so many emotions. Lydia too.