Can Anime Impress a Pro Violinist? Rating Music Scenes!
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My head hurts from trying to figure out what that instrument was at the end. Was it a viola or violin? SOMEBODY TELL ME IN THE COMMENTS BELOW!!
Ps. Let me know which other scenes you want me to review!
00:00 Intro
00:44 Anime "Your Lie in April"
02:50 Anime "Nodame Cantabile"
06:09 Anime "ef: A Tale of Melodies"
08:28 Anime "Detective Conan"
10:06 Anime "Angel Beats!"
10:58 Anime "Whisper of the Heart"
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You forgot to rate with a note the last ones. Tonic is lots of fun. Sounds like a violin tuned down like in baroque music ensemble. Gut strings are also a possibility for the not sounding like a violin E string.
Your Lie in April one of the best animes I've ever watched but it is a dram that is able to make me cry so I suggest you to be careful :) Amazing video btw.
I thought the scene in ef will be the song "A moon filled sky"
You really, really should watch the entire Whisper of the Heart. Really, you should watch the entire Miyazaki filmography, as they are all masterpieces of storytelling and animation.
Hi Ray. The violin part in Whisper of the Heart (耳をすませば) was played in A=392Hz tuning by Kaoru "Kao" Uemura. She wrote a blog post on the recording. Here's the summary of her blog post on Jul 10, 2010:
_The arrangement of Country Road was originally written in G. Unfortunately, it was too high for the vocalist; the arranger and I (Kao) decided to play it in F by dropping every string by a whole tone. Thanks to the tuning, the sound became mellow and matched with other period instruments well._
(I omit the URL so this post won't be classified as a spam; also updated the translation.)
i like that tuning more it sounds so nice to the ears i mean violin already sounds great but that makes it so just more great
Oh
It definitely sounded like a violin, just tuned lower. It was more obvious when the vocalist started singing, it didn’t sound like she could sing much higher. Thanks for sharing the post to help confirm what I was hearing!
@@BreakofDawn The thing is also contextual. Seiji is not so good in his playing, he prefers to make violins and Shizuku isn't into singing. However, the CD rendition is definitely a bit higher, as in the movie the out of tune singing was important to the story (she gets better, as she sings).
Cool.
"I have to check this out, Your Lie in April"
Owh you sweet sweet poor soul.
My biggest take away of this video is that Ray has perfect pitch.
he's mentioned in before (maybe in a Q&A?) in this channel but hardly as much as Eddy does, lol. tbf Eddy often mentions it when they use it in their videos for games
I think Eddy mentions he has perfect pitch so often because Brett doesn't. 😅
I could totally relate because transposing gets me like this too, because my perfect pitch was trained on a fixed “Do” rather than on relative pitch / moveable “Do”. Pro tip for adults trying to train children on perfect pitch (which is what I was subjected to as a child): make sure you train them on both absolute and relative pitch.
@@oxoelfoxo Eddy shows it at every opportunity he is able to 😆
@@kamitera1 I was about to ask that, can you listen to intervals both absolutely and relatively or do you try to turn off the other to focus on the other?
kinda wish this whole ep was a review of "Your Lie in April" alone
He needs to do it
I didn’t know I need this until I read it 🔥
Upvoted your comment so we get this :p
❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉pleaseeeee!!!!! Ahhh
Pls
Hi Ray, I remember that my Japanese violin teacher once told me that in Whisper of the heart they was deliberately mixing violin and viola sounds to make Seiji-kun (the male character)'s sounds one of a kind
Right. Greetings from a Parisian violinist ❤ Cheers
The violinist Kao who played in the Whisper of the Heart wrote in her blog that she tuned in FCGD. She kept the violin in that drop tuning for 3 days, and this made the tone of open strings softer. The piece was originally in G but it was a bit high for the voice actor so she needed to play in F instead.
Context for Nodame Cantabile! Everyone there is a student at a conservatory. Nodame, the female lead, is a very skilled pianist, but she has a tendency to learn music by ear, and 're-arrange' pieces by instinct as she plays. This is seen as an issue by quite a few people because of the whole 'classical musicians must play the pieces note for note in order to convey what the original composer intended', especially later in the series when Nodame decides to go for competition.
Chiaki (the other pianist and male lead) is a prodigy pianist/violinist who wants to be an orchestral conductor, and he often calls out Nodame for the 'haphazard' and 'out of control' playing in which she improvises notes here and there, but even right from the start, he found her interpretations interesting and unique.
Out of all the music animes, Nodame Cantabile is definitely one of the best, especially in the way they portray the difficulties of being a musician (esp classical musician in our modern day and age). They deal with the issues of abusive teachers, burnout, the financial woes of playing music, the uncertainty of making music a career after graduation, the goods and bads of being competitive in music, and more. It does come in for its share of dramatization and romance plotlines, but it's got great character development and excellent humour, and I'd definitely recommend anyone who loves classical music to check the whole thing out!
I'm not sure if anything was changed in post-processing/editing for the Whisper of the Heart scene, but the violin part was recorded by violinist Uemura Kaoru, and she is credited as violinist (not violist), so I'm assumingggg it's a violin? 8'D
Other than that, Sakamichi no Apollon (also known as Kids on the Slope) has some great portrayals of musicians (mostly jazz, but the lead character started with only classical training).
interesting. now i have to go check out how Nodame C ends
Thanks for sharing! Definitely got me interested 👍🏻
This is interesting, thanks for sharing about Nodame Cantabile! It kind of makes me think of someone like Glenn Gould, who played so much of Bach's repertoire and a lot of times with his own 'flair'. And especially with Bach when that period of music is often see as more "strict" or "rigid", it's interesting to have a pianist break away from some of those notions.
(Hi Dai, fancy seeing you here :D)
Seconding the Nodame rec, it's so good! Also it's been a while since I've seen someone mentioning Sakamichi no Apollon but I remember really liking it too when it came out
Loved Nodame Cantabile!
Since you have never seen Whisper of the Heart, the "violin" in question was made by the 15 year old school student as part of the story and it was described by his grandfather as "rough and unfinished", which explains.
I love Whisper of the Heart! I've always felt like if the director didn't pass away so young, he would have been the perfect successor after Miyazaki for Studio Ghibli.
Isn't the director for that movie is Miyazaki's son?
@@user-eg9no9os7uNo. The director was like Miyazaki's apparentice but sadly he passed away.
It's not Miyazaki??? No wonder It felt soo cool
I love that movie a lot. And I'm not a Miyazaki movie person myself. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Spirited away and Mononoke hime quite well. But it's not something that has any personal attachment with me. But This movie was different
@@newbie4789 No, the director was Kondo Yoshifumi, who worked with Miyazaki since they did World Masterpiece Theater series with Takahata (all major kids classics were animated: Akage no Anne, Shokojo Sara, Little Women, Little Men, Meiken Lassie and many more. Then, in 1985, he co-founded Studio Ghibli with Takahata and Suzuki and convinced few of other animators he worked with on those earlier series to come along.
@@newbie4789, no Miyazaki was still involved in the process of the movie.
Your Lie In April is a marvellous musicians animate, not just the violinist but also the pianist was amazingly real. The one who produces this animate has great understanding and appreciation of classical music.
In the Whisper of the Heart scene the violin is well tuned in baroque, in the continuation of the scene, the other musicians arrive and they play baroque instruments : viola da gamba, percussion, recorder, even the cornetto which is a rarely represented instrument, studio ghibli does its research very well!
Thanks for this. As a layman fan of classical music I appreciate this trivia. It makes the scene so much more Ghibli-esque :)
In Whisper of the Heart, a few lines before she asks if he could play the violin for her; he obliges slightly reluctantly with the condition that she sings as accompaniment, which leads into the clip we just watched.
Ray's scaling system is too generous is what I learned. This is definitely not a roasting channel 😂
He's too nice giving detective conan a 6 😂. I'm a fan of the series but I'd give that violin playing a 3 for the attempt to animate it + considering that it's an old episode too.
he needs to learn more from twoset
Please also do "Sound! Euphonium". It's one of my favorite animes and it's about a girl switching from an orchestra group to a marching band🥺 It's from KyoAni so I have high hopes that it does a good animation on those moments when they're playing
At nodame cantabile, ray was blushing when he was talking about duets being intimate.. Reminds me of the time he was in twoset's vid (was it spill the tea?) and he mentioned he asked his crush to play with him.
I loved that 2set episode, so much fun! I only noticed Ray blushing about the viola tuning thing 😅 Kind of hard to picture him love anyone more than his violin (or talk about it in public respectively) 😅
Hey Ray! I think that was a five-string violin in Whisper of the Heart. Five string violins have a C, G, D, A, and E strings, so that may explain why it sounded like a viola yet had a mellow-sounding E string.
Not a musician, but that was my thought as well. A 5 string violin with Baroque tuning.
Ya I saw one at a music store. If we get one, we don’t need a viola to play lower notes😂
But visually it’s a 4 string so it’s either a viola or a violin
I highly recommend both Your Lie in April and Nodame Cantabile. They're two of the best anime series about music that I've ever watched, and Nodame is one of my all-time favorite anime, period. Both of them take the music side of things quite seriously and a lot of the story is about classical music, which is cool. There are also some other anime featuring music I'd recommend:
* Forest of Piano - All about a piano prodigy. The bulk of the story takes place at the Chopin Competition. The piano animation must've been rotoscope because it's quite correct.
* Carole and Tuesday - A story about a pop/folk/rock duo on Mars. The music is really good and the animation is amazing. The music performance animation is all rotoscoped and incredibly accurate. I kind of freaked out when I saw the guitar playing and realized her hands were spot on with every chord.
* Beck - About a boy who starts playing guitar and joins a rock band. I watched it a long time ago so I don't remember how accurate the animation is, but it's a great story and the music is awesome.
* Detroit Metal City - A hilarious comedy anime about a guy who wants to be a pop singer but finds success as a death metal musician. Again, I don't remember how good the animation is but the show is incredibly funny.
* Bocchi the Rock - About an all-girl rock band where the lead guitarist has intense social phobie. It's largely about her struggles with actually interacting with people and performing on stage. Great show.
* Kids on the Slope - About two high schoolers playing jazz. The music animation is amazing. I mostly noticed the drumming, which is pretty much perfect. Another one that was rotoscoped. It's also a great story. Highly recommended!
* Liz and the Blue Bird - About two girls in a high school wind band. The music is a metaphor for their relationship. A beautiful and touching film.
There's probably more I've watched that I'm forgetting.
There's one I can't get my hands on - Aoi no Orukesutura (Blue Orchestry), which I'd love to see.
If you’ve watched Liz and the Blue Bird you probably know of Sound! Euphonium. The music in that anime was really beautiful.
I have to say Nodame Cantabile helped me when I was preparing for my Grade 8 practical exam (piano, of course). Nodame's playing style and technique (of imagery) helped me and uhhhh... Surprisingly that piece I played during the exam had the highest score lmao. It really is nice to see it back here again.
@@itsamochi hey, congrats! Inspiration and help can come from anywhere. I've learned so many things out of encyclopaedia (which I used to binge read as a kid) and while watching anime or reading fiction it's insane. Your help happens to be anime - and that's cool. ^^ Keep on playing, for the rest of us, non-playing music lovers :D
Kids on the slope is so amazingggggggg
Your Lie in April and Nodame Cantabile are two of the best musician anime ever made.
Heyy... So i have not watched nodame cantabile ... Is it good ?.....n does it have romance ?.... Cuz I would love dat! .... Does the anime end properly or is it something like a promotion for the manga n ended with a cliffhanger... Sorry for asking too many questions... I just wanna knw if it's worth my time... 😅
@@bettygrace2098 It's fantastic, and has a lot of romance, and a real ending.
@@danbuter ohhh then I'll be watching it.... Thank u for replying ❤
Really enjoying you being confused by baroque tuning! Early music ensembles near me (England) almost always tune to 415Hz, the first time I went to a workshop which did so it threw me so much, but I made myself keep trying at home and now I can cope with both modern and baroque pitch. (I've also tried playing without a chin rest but that's a whole other level of challenge!) I bet you could train your ear to it if you tried, it'd be really fun to hear you have a go on Tonic. As for the E string that's "too mellow", maybe it's a gut string to fit the baroque vibe?
YLIA and Nodame are definitely the two gold standards for music anime. So much care and attention was put into the music scenes for both _because_ music is so integral to the plot, the characters, and the inter-character relationships. If they had slacked even a tiny bit with the music and animation for those two shows, the plot itself and the stories they were trying to tell would have suffered for it, even to the lay (not musically trained) audience.
Outside of the anime sphere, Pixar's Coco and Soul were both similarly very music-focused, and invested a LOT of R&D and animation budget to ensure the music animation was as authentic as possible.
Hearing "Angel beats" again actually caused me to tear up since its one of the most emotional animes I feel I've ever seen. I kinda wanna rewatch it again and bawl my eyes out.
I thought I was the only one 😭
Have you seen A Lull in the Sea?
When it comes to music content in an anime and THE plot, I'd say my fav is nodame cantabile. It's just that it's a bit of an older anime. I'd definitely recommend watching it. Not too much drama, not too much comedy and pure wholesome. Might rewatch again 😂
There's an anime out now called Blue Orchestra where they've done a good job to match up the animation to what's actually being played.
There was also a Paganini performance by Hillary Hearn!
nodame cantabile is one of my fav mangas/animes about music students, and they have a live action remake of it and it's so good!! def recommend
nodame cantabile basically got me into classical music. it is so good in so many ways
Since you included Angel Beats band performance, I wish you'd also see K-on and Bocchi the Rock's performances since imo they're more realistic when it comes to band performances
In the realm where strings enchant the soul,
Where melodies weave their tales untold,
There lies a world of vibrant animation,
Where anime music stirs deep admiration.
Within this realm, a violinist stands,
With serious demeanor, bow in hand,
But when the strains of anime arise,
A transformation occurs before our eyes.
With each stroke of the bow, emotions ignite,
As the violinist transcends to new heights,
Notes cascade, like petals on a gentle breeze,
Unlocking the heart, setting the spirit at ease.
Anime music, a portal to realms unseen,
Whispers secrets, paints dreams, as it weens,
It dances through time, transcending space,
Creating symphonies in the heart's embrace.
In tender moments, it pulls heartstrings tight,
Conveying love's longing, an ethereal flight,
Then in battles fierce, its energy ascends,
Igniting fervor, courage it commends.
From poignant ballads to spirited refrains,
Anime music, a myriad of sonic strains,
It tells tales of heroes, of love and strife,
Echoing through the tapestry of life.
And the serious violinist, once confined,
Finds freedom, as anime's world unwinds,
For within those melodies, a symphony awakes,
A fusion of passion, the violinist partakes.
So let us celebrate this harmony divine,
Where anime and violin intertwine,
For in that union, beauty is unfurled,
Impressing even the most serious of the world.
You could probably make a whole video with scenes from Your Lie in April alone. It has a lot of really good scenes.
I think the violin used in Whisper of the Heart is a 5-string with standard EADGC tuning. (I tried to play the music from that movie a long time ago and that was my conclusion.)
In YLIA The reason the leave the middle part of the Kreutzer is because kaori is rebelling against the composers instructions to form her own music
Nodame cantabile is such a nice music themed anime. I watch it at least once a year
I love Nodame and Whisper of the Heart so much. Surprised La Corda d'Oro wasn’t reviewed. 😂
I was waiting for La Corda too 😂
As a guy who was a bit involved (and failed miserably) as a child musician... I would love to think what you think about Your Lie in April. There's so much about the pressure of being a child and learning classical music and instruments and the effect it has on kids... As an adult, I appreciate that I was "forced" to learn and "compete" (I now play only for fun, but that wasn't what it was at the time. I'm glad I did it even if the pressure made me suicidal at times - maybe that's just me, but I don't think so)... but the anime really explores the dichotomy of loving the music and hating the environment.
To clarify... I'd like to know more about how you feel how it demonstrates how it FEELS to be a musician. I feel like this anime really touches on something that maybe a lot of kids are put through... maybe something I would consider "torture" (but maybe... I just wasn't "good enough" maybe). But I would do not regret going through it. There's so many UA-cam videos about technique, but I would love to hear about the human experience of playing the music, the process of becoming the good/best, and the failures of falling short. Or at least, that's what I think this anime does very well. I never made it too far, but I feel like it touched that part of me that tried. You made it. Do you think this anime relates to what you were going through when you were "coming up"? Or is it just me?
I feel like Your Lie in April really touches on how it feels to be... I dunno... how a child might feel if their entire life depended on getting into Curtis?
I watched your concert last night in melbourne ( june 29) the clapping between movements on tchailovsky violin concerto was pretty SACRELI0USUSIUOIUS
Nice waltzing matilda!
You really gotta review all the things played in your life in April. It gets so much better when kosei starts playing with her.
Oh, please, watch more about Nodame Cantabile! For me it is the best anime about music! It just made me learn a lot about music and also inspired me to go deep into music, when I made my niece watch it, she fell in love with classical music and that anime is the reason she started violin and piano lessons, last week she had her first orchesta presentation with the violin!
日本のアニメを題材に挙げていただいてありがとうございます！
これからも元気でご活躍されます様に🥰
レイさんのことはTwosetviolinの二人のページで知りました。
それから数年、色々聴かせて頂いています。
素敵な音楽とエンターテインメントをいつもありがとう😄
I loved this ❤keep it up Ray! :)
We definitely need more of this
Your lie in April is such a master piece ❣️ very inspiring ❣️
ray i saw your performance at melbourne it was so amazing i hope you come back
OMG 四月は君の嘘！Your lie in April😭 I’ve decided to play the violin because of this anime, and my violin case is the same as Kaori’s!😅
OMG you also have 耳をすませば😭
Tell me where did you get it I have been looking for months for a violin case that is exactly the same as kaori’s
" I have to check this out, You Lie In April."
famous last words
Love that you play, too!
God tier editor/team on this
Love your content. You should do it again with "Ao no Orchestra".
Ray cuddling with his Violin is something I didn't know I needed
It’s really a fun video! Besides the music,I’m also attracted by the anime.
Your Lie in April is such a beautiful show with great music in it. I definitely recommend watching it.
I also really enjoyed Forest of Piano.
You’re too generous! The first two were solid 10 and 9 but after… well, you’re kind.
I love how accurately you were confused in the Whisper of the Heart one! You KNEW it wasn’t right and why it wasn’t right, (I didn’t!) but couldn’t figure out HOW it wasn’t right because the information wasn’t all there! Impressive as hell!
Sometimes when I watch you play, I feel like I’m watching a live-action version of an anime-one with excellent violin animation, of course.
Ray should dedicate an video for your life in April reactions. I won't get enough of it.
Nodame is by far the best music-anime there is and I'd be more than happy to watch your reaction for the entire series (spanning across multiple seasons lol)
It's hilarious and an absolute ball to watch - not too much romance even though it's supposedly 'shoujo', very heavy with detail on classical music. Think you'll enjoy it.
Another film (better than the series) focused more on piano is called Piano no mori or Forest of Piano and I'm pretty sure Vladimir Ashkenazy plays the main character's piano - just an absolute bliss when he improvs one of the mozart pieces.
I would have never known about the sound of Whisper of the Heart. It was fun to see your emotions/reactions to it
forest of piano! highly recommended too!
I loved the editing and your confusion at the end 😂
Gibli studios always delivering nice to see
We need a part 2!
I really love You Lie in April..this anime makes me cry
Tnx 2 your lie on April im finally learning the violin and learning all the songs they played the anime really inspired me a lot to move on no matter what happens in life you must continue
Wish you could have included Ao no Orchestra (Blue Orchestra) in the review. Also other music animes (not violin playing tho) like Kono oto tomare and Mashiro no Oto. Tho I would have to agree Your lie in April and Nodame Cantabile are epic and most music scenes were given justice, esp in Your lie in April. The director was pretty realistic. tho I love the technicality in Nodame. These two are always on top of my anime list. 😊 Thanks for the honest review! ❤️
14:58 mabe is a "quintón", I mean, a viola with 5 strings.
Oh man, you definitely gotta check out Sakamichi No Apollon (Kids on the Slope)! It's focused on jazz piano but man oh man that one is absolutely rotoscoped and it is beautiful, and they do some really cool medleys/tunes!
must check definitely the one that shouldn't be missed in this video xD La Corda D'Oro - anime is whole about classical music and struggles of instrumentalists (even of vocal teacher) ~ btw old anime sure couldn't have precise animation x) so to demonstrate passion while playing instrument they tended to show movement even if not true to the performance (like Detective Conan).
HI, I did some quick research,
Bach is indeed in original tuning, though,
In "Whisper of the Heart," can only assume that it was either drop-tuned to the vocal key of the voice actor beforehand, or later tuned to an old music session with his grandfathers (lower tuning than modern). Various theories exist.
Thanks for an interesting release. Minuet Boccherini is good 🥰
That's why i really love your lie in april and also i like whisper of the heart i tried what he play that's take me home country roads but whisper of the heart version im always play that for warm up im violinist too but still need alot of practice and takes more years to archive what i want to be
14:15 is the curse of perfect pitch people playing baroque tuning 🤣🤣
Your lie in April is a nice one to watch. I cried so much, but it is soo good!
You should watch NODAME its such a great musical show. I don't know nothing about classical music but this show just was so beautiful
As an up and coming violinist i was quite thrilled to see your lie in April first 😊
Yes to Your Lie in April pls💕
The Viola embarassing tuning moment was golden. :)
the whole video is great but shoutout especially to the video editing 14:42
Very interesting 😊
Worth watching, Ray educating us about (musical) intimacy 😂😂😂
I came to see the grading for your lie in April. Not disappointed.
if you do another part, two fun examples are Bink's sake from One Piece where they didn't really try to animate the first time for the violins at all, but tried a bit harder after the timeskip
Part 2 please! Do a review on La Corda D’oro
There are so few music anime out there that I always have to give each one a try. And there are some gems out there. You should totally do a small series on music anime!
Nodame Cantabile is great. Kids on the Slope is also top tier. Your Lie in April is solid.
You might also like Given if you're feeling adventurous and math-rocky
Ray-ting LOL (pls do more 😭💓)
Please do some scenes of Red Violin! Love your videos.
Drop your skincare routine Ray!! The glow is real😍
If you ever make a part 2 I recommend the video: Morfonica「fly with the night」楽曲MV(フルサイズver)
It's from the multi-media franchise Bang Dream, they have anime, games and even live shows. They're usually praised for the instrument animations, but I've never seen anyone talking about their violin
oh gosh Bandori
Whisper of the Heart is a fantastic film. That section is a Japanese rendition of Country Roads. In the dubbed version, they sing the English version. I've not compared the melody to see if they use the same instrument recording.
yay, nodame cantabile is one of my favourite anime
Nodame Cantabile is so underrated in the West.
your lie in April made me amazed and cry at the same time
You should look into la cords d’oro. I can’t guarantee the animations, but the first season is all about a group of music school students competing in a music concour. I’d love to hear your opinion of the performances.
Do a part 2!
Animator here glad to see people look closely at animation, music scenes are expensive and labour intensive😅.
introduction and rondo capriccioso your lie in april
Your Lie in April is pretty amazing
I love it
I watched that episode of detective Conan, my first though was “two set should react to this” but Ray did it before them
omg i love that nodame was mentioned 😭 it was so good and i feel like its so underrated
Nodame is definitely not underrated. The manga won awards and then got adapted into anime, j-drama, k-drama, and c-drama. It's also hot topic among classical musician. In my country, there was held concert 'Cantabile'.
@@maharanient6636 oh i did not know that thank you for letting me know 🙇♂️ i think i thought it was underrated because when i watched it recently, i never rly saw people discussing about it (to be fair it is kinda old ig so…)
Nodame Cantabile, one of my favourites animes.
Please do Forest of Piano and La Corda D'Oro next :D
❤❤❤❤❤! My lie in April🤩🤩🙏😍😍 could easily listen to more scenes of this show and your thoughts on it👍😎
for whispers of the heart, it's a violin tuned 1 step lower just like you said.,