Abstraction also apply to programming (and many other fields I believe), we programmer always try to seek for higher abstraction if possible, because higher abstract component can be used at different type of application, and they can be reused overtime (to other environment). Think about this, an invention called "pencil" is still very useful till today because we can use it not only for writing, drawing, calculating, marking on ground ... the design of pencil is general purpose, this kind of abstraction don't limit it to specific purpose, and the system full of these component is much easy to manage since each component can be replaced easily and don't confused other nearby components.
amazing video!!!! Everyone praises part 7 as a masterpiece, but I feel not enough people go into why its ao great, thank you for giving us your take!!!!
As a big fan of McCloud's works on the subject of comics, I enjoyed the references made. However, I believe Mr. Hjalmarsson should flip his directions. His "abstraction" of animation was less an abstraction and more of a simplification of the movements, which is what the "stylization" is in the picture plane. To me that lateral movement in the art style was better mirrored by the vertical movement in the animation. Abstraction isn't just disinformation, but rather accentuation of information through either simplification or exaggeration. When thought of this way, I think it is easier to say that the wacky, over-the-top bouncing box is actually the abstraction of a falling box as opposed to the conceptualization of the falling box, which, in following with McCloud's picture plane, would be demonstrated in a simple two-frame animation of the box in the air and the box resting on the ground. This is kind of neat in a way, because it essentially maps out a bridge that spans the gap between animation and comics (the two-frame animation being essentially an animated comic). I think you could expand this fully into a complete theory of all artistic mediums. Great work. Very thought provoking.
i thought he was going to show some Smear animation to represent the abstract area. In that way he could remove frames while the brain fiils up the lack of movement by focusing on the deformation the object
The motion of the stylized cube has more variables (also scale) than the one of the realistic cube (only position and rotation). That's not, what stylized means, according to the explanation about images. What I would have thought to be stylized is, when looking at it as a keyframe based animation, removing keyframes and simplify interpolation. The partially stylized version would be a cube moving down with constant speed and then rotating back with constant speed, a more stylized version would be a cube first in the air and then (using constant interpolation) just being at the goal, just like the first example with the cylinder. I could agree the constant interpolation thing is already abstract, but I'd say adding scaling of a cube is rather abstract than stylized.
This is the only thing my brain understands completely at first glance. Everything is exactly where my brain wants it to be, theres no "fix it" button going off
i have noticed that most of the presenters have Stage fright except for few who clearly have experience when talking to huge crowd and in front of cameras...maybe u should let them sit on a desk and talk from there and let the slide show do the work just like what Pixologic does, this way it makes them more conformable and if they want to stand an talk then they have that option.
I like how it's completely ignores the cultural differences applying that our brains working by default based on Disney style animation. Only one example from Miyazaki. How about Yuri Norstein? What for one culture seems an abstract is perfectly in the realms of reality for another.
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Patent it and we'll call it the hjalti diamond
Trademark no? The Hjalti Diamond!
or the Hjalmarsson Diamond?
I think he nailed it. That sounds like the truth. The triangle applies to everything, sound, color, art style, motion, even story!
Hjalti is a sharp-lookin dude
That was great, specially useful when working on a team since everyone has their own idea on what the artstyle should go for
I can tell you put a lot of time in to the presentation and it was worth it! Amazing visuals and examples.
Abstraction also apply to programming (and many other fields I believe),
we programmer always try to seek for higher abstraction if possible, because higher abstract component can be used at different type of application, and they can be reused overtime (to other environment).
Think about this, an invention called "pencil" is still very useful till today because we can use it not only for writing, drawing, calculating, marking on ground ... the design of pencil is general purpose, this kind of abstraction don't limit it to specific purpose, and the system full of these component is much easy to manage since each component can be replaced easily and don't confused other nearby components.
Thought provoking talk, thank you. Seeing the linear relationships and possibilities of creativity was for me a unique epiphany.
Hjalti for blender spokesman..this guy is talent,honest and truly a genius
Talent talk gives me clearly point about "realistic", "stylistic", and I've seen the tut by you on blender cloud, thanks for your sharing!
One of the best talks of the whole conference.
Abstract for animation seems like those wacky Gmod or SFM animations.
I strongly believe this statement is on point.
I think going to the store demonstrated that pretty clearly, lol
I noticed cartoonists started to mix all three Reality, Abstract and Stylized stiles in one cartoon. Children's brains must be melting.
amazing video!!!! Everyone praises part 7 as a masterpiece, but I feel not enough people go into why its ao great, thank you for giving us your take!!!!
A brilliant way to illustrate the realms of reality, stylized and abstract forms. In essence, light and sound work the same same way.
As a big fan of McCloud's works on the subject of comics, I enjoyed the references made. However, I believe Mr. Hjalmarsson should flip his directions. His "abstraction" of animation was less an abstraction and more of a simplification of the movements, which is what the "stylization" is in the picture plane. To me that lateral movement in the art style was better mirrored by the vertical movement in the animation. Abstraction isn't just disinformation, but rather accentuation of information through either simplification or exaggeration. When thought of this way, I think it is easier to say that the wacky, over-the-top bouncing box is actually the abstraction of a falling box as opposed to the conceptualization of the falling box, which, in following with McCloud's picture plane, would be demonstrated in a simple two-frame animation of the box in the air and the box resting on the ground. This is kind of neat in a way, because it essentially maps out a bridge that spans the gap between animation and comics (the two-frame animation being essentially an animated comic). I think you could expand this fully into a complete theory of all artistic mediums. Great work. Very thought provoking.
i thought he was going to show some Smear animation to represent the abstract area. In that way he could remove frames while the brain fiils up the lack of movement by focusing on the deformation the object
Fascinating. Not to put any value judgments on it. :)
What an interesting talk! All of the "BUT MAYBE YOU WERE GOING FOR IT!!" made me laugh hahahah
Guess he was referring to Captain Disillusions presentation by wardrobe changes and music. It was great fun
very important presentation in animation and art
Wow. The Hjalmarsson Diamond. This totally blew my mind.
The motion of the stylized cube has more variables (also scale) than the one of the realistic cube (only position and rotation). That's not, what stylized means, according to the explanation about images.
What I would have thought to be stylized is, when looking at it as a keyframe based animation, removing keyframes and simplify interpolation. The partially stylized version would be a cube moving down with constant speed and then rotating back with constant speed, a more stylized version would be a cube first in the air and then (using constant interpolation) just being at the goal, just like the first example with the cylinder. I could agree the constant interpolation thing is already abstract, but I'd say adding scaling of a cube is rather abstract than stylized.
thank you.
Really interesting!!! The Hjalmarsson Diamond
Who paused to watch "Going to the store"?
Have seen it previously so didn't need to.
This is the only thing my brain understands completely at first glance. Everything is exactly where my brain wants it to be, theres no "fix it" button going off
awesome talk !
just brilliant...
Beautiful…
You deserve a noble prize for this :)
Brilliant!!!
Great presentation Hjalti, very interesting and entertaining. Thanks!
This is amazing, super cool.
i love your talks so much Hjalti
That was a veeeery interesting ride. Master Hjalti!
Nice man,
I was thinking about very similar idea of your study on this topic
This helped alot❤🎉
i have noticed that most of the presenters have Stage fright except for few who clearly have experience when talking to huge crowd and in front of cameras...maybe u should let them sit on a desk and talk from there and let the slide show do the work just like what Pixologic does, this way it makes them more conformable and if they want to stand an talk then they have that option.
Has been done in previous years I think and probably a desk and a chair can be moved easily enough.
Its almost like most people working in this industry are awkward nerds.
@@jascrandom9855 "Awkward nerds" is almost redundant 8^)
Amazing presentation. Loved it.
Reminds of Fyodor Khitruk's chapter about "completing with imagination" (or smth like that, i can't translate it). Довоображение, if you know Russian
I like how it's completely ignores the cultural differences applying that our brains working by default based on Disney style animation. Only one example from Miyazaki. How about Yuri Norstein? What for one culture seems an abstract is perfectly in the realms of reality for another.
7:08 Actually my brain went:
"Oh that's a side view of a stylized baby chicken 🐥"
Though I don't believe that makes me brilliant in any way 😅
Amazing talk. Very educational. : )
Very nice presentation! Only the microphone is very annoying
So interesting!
Wow amazing!
i wonder if bad apple count as abstract animation
Thought the title was "The Illusion of America"
Yes. I quite see it! :)
me: so abstract is frame rate
hjalti Hjalmarsson: 26:53
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Good stuff
Something like a scientific research
Very interesting
This guy is thinking far away in terms of the animation behind the technique. Want to be like that when grow up hehe
so do i, but also because he is really hot
It's very interesting
Wow
17:39 lol
hmm
he's fine😍😍😍🥵🥵
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