I'm just a hobby smith compared to my Dad who did it for his living. Shoeing, sled work, cattle trimming, tools etc. I never got to see him work wagons much. So it's a pleasure to see your trade. Thank you for sharing.
Those are not only wheels but you turn them into works of art and the amount of tools that it requires to do the work is also is amazing! Keep the videos coming!
Look forward to your posts on Fridays. Very relaxing way to end the week. I always learn something. The sound of the wheels (regular speed parts) is so satisfying when you place them on the floor, so solid....I don’t know how to describe, without rambling. Obviously the sound of perfection. Great video. Thanks for all your posts.
I love Friday , because I know I can watch you at work . I''ve noticed that as I watch my favorite western movies and tv shows I recognize wheel and hub types from watching you videos . Today on the Rifleman his buckboard had sarvan type hubs . Best UA-cam videos , love watching , thanks for bringing them to us !!
These videos are not only entertaining, they are essential to learning about these old buggies and how they are constructed. I recently bought two doctor style buggies and knew little about them but I'm learning fast thanks to these videos. Neither have falling tops but they have the shifting rails. I just watched the buggy and surrey repair video and learned a bundle. As they say, "a picture is worth a thousand words". Thanks Dave, your effort is greatly appreciated!
If I ever get across the sea to visit I'd probably have to do some sweeping up or something just to provide a little appreciation for these videos . 👍🇬🇧
Your subscriber numbers keep climbing pretty soon you will be at a 100,000 which is good because, you deserve it and more. Always a pleasure to watch you working and teaching about your trade and the differences between wheels.
Not sure how I missing this one. I thought I went back and watched everything you had put out.somehow I seemed to have missed this one. Great work as always! 👍👍❤️
A fellow I used to work with would often say:: "WHY?!?! BECAUSE ONE LEG IS BOTH THE SAME....." I had no idea he had WAGON WHEEL experience... :-) :-) Happiness is a Friday afternoon at ECS!!!
very interesting! thanks for showing about the rivets, I ran across the flat rivets the other day in a vintage Old Milwaukee sign the other day when a customer brought it in to see if I could refurbish it. Unfortunately I had to turn it down because it would've decreased the value, but after watching your videos it was really cool to know how the whole thing was made and to picture the old craftsmen building it by hand in the 1930-1940s.
Thanks Dave, for showing us in slow motion then in real time.how to do the rivets. i've broken three fingers and shattered six spokes. but i'm getting there.Doctor said i'll be back at it in 6 weeks. Greeting's from Holland.tippy top clip topper. oh yeh by the way. one of the rivets i cut off.hit my buddy in the eye..onward and upward...
Always a treat to watch! Dave, thanks for sharing these processes on you tube! I've always been curious how things were built in history and wagons and wheels are certainly no exception. So nice to watch a true craftsman!
Thank you for this video! You rebuilt a set of wheels for my Grandfather many years ago. He never got around to finishing the wagon before he passed and I’ve often wondered what those holes were meant to hold. I guess I need to find rivets!
Sad that this is a nearly lost craft, I do lots of radius woodwork from solid lumber...staircases, armoires and I consider myself a jig meister...specialty fixtures...and I see all the different fixtures you employ! I love what you do, please keep it up and I'll keepa watchin'! Thanks
Morning David as normal a lovely vlog and very interesting and informative with the different types of screw and rivet methods of securing take care 😀😀👍👍🇬🇧
15:20ish. Me: it's got to be hot working with those hot metal tires. Wonder if he drinks enough fluids. 15:30: Dave just drinks from the hose. That's my kind of guy right there. Stay hydrated Dave.
I loved how accommodating you were with those visitors. It didn't particularly slow you down, and the man was sensible enough to give you room when that hot iron tire came out. It worries me that one day your back will have had enough, and make it at first very painful, and ultimately impossible to carry on. I hope you find a decent apprentice to do the heavy lifting if that comes to pass. I was impressed with your control of that big angle grinder. I have one that size, but rarely use it preferring a five inch that is easier to control. It gets a lot of use, and I have been doing this stuff for a lot of years (I am a retired toolmaker) but I don't think I was ever as good as you i.e. I would have struggled to take those rivets down so quickly without marking the fellows. So, as usual, I guess I am in awe of your shop skills, and this is coming from 40 years in a machine shop, and still doing shop stuff as a hobby 17 years after retirement.
Took me a while to figure out why the rivets. I thought they might split the grain. Then I remembered compression so they make the mortises tighter around the tenons. I love it when I think we're smarter then they were only to find out we're not too swift .
@Santina Murphy When it comes to these old folks, remember they were easily as intelligent as we are today. When I went into the Cairo Museum, they had on display a cartouche that requires a magnigying glass to see it. You had to have a diamond chisel to make that. But they didn't have diamond chisels, so here it is, right in front of me, so how did they do it? Whoever did it was smarter then me.
With time lapse and editing it makes it look like no big deal, but having watched so many great videos, we know the hard work and amazing care that goes into your work!! Always impressed ❤️🇺🇸❤️
You must have a better eye with that drill than I. I'd have to do that drilling in a press to get them straight. When I use tape to mark depth of cut on a drill bit, I just fold it over into a flap. It's easier to see when it reaches depth that way.
How many youngins saw Dave drink from a hose? Well kids that is how we drink. Not that bottled water, just give us a hose because that how we were taught.
I keep picturing a U shaped wood block with a hole that you can push the end of the water hose into and it keeps the cooling water on the rims without having to watch as you work around the wheel during the shrink process.
I really appreciate these videos to old to apprentice and this allows me to pick up some knowledge I can apply in my own shop always expanding my knowledge
Enjoyed the video and it's fascinating work you do and how those steel wheels for right on the wood after heating them. Thanks for the video. Y'all take care and God bless.
Great video as usual. I remain fascinated by the sheer number of hammer strikes needed to build what you make. By a rough count on one rivet and multiplying by number of rivets i got about 2,000 strikes for just the setting of the rivets on that one wheel. I muse about how many total strikes in that entire borax wagon build! If I ever get to shake your hand please be gentle with your massive grip.
Thumbs up Dave to this and all your videos. I can watech these for hours. I wish I could visit your shop but then again I would be asking to many questions and get in you way. Excellent as usual.
I'd love to come visit....but probably missed the window of opportunity this year. I heard Montana is going to be getting snow in the next couple of days.
*I can see that the screws might well be just as strong if not stronger than rivets, and because they are smaller diameter perhaps less likely to cause splitting along the grain of the felloes as the wood dries out.*
Mr Engels, have you ever been asked too or found a need to have your wheels balanced? It got me thinking of when I asked about the rpm on the hub boring machine last week.
Dave, one, maybe two of the wheels you showed appeared to have a “U” shaped rim? What is the purpose of that? I can’t imagine u-channel metal stock was common in the 1800’s, so they must have been horrendously expensive in those days? Again, thanks so much for all your videos with the lovely Montana pictures. Very much enjoyed and appreciated. Sincerely, Rod
May I suggest using an air chisel for your riveting? Doesn't take much to adapt/make a tool to fit. And I know you have the compressor to run it. Might not seat all the rivet sizes, but can sure speed up the work for the diameters that are within range. And save you some wear on your hammer arm.
I have been following your channel for a while and it occurred to me to ask if you have an apprentice to learn your skills. The work is heavy so a helping hand would ease your work load and preserve the skills into the next generation.
Mr. Engles Please be sure to show the wheels in their finished condition. I'd love to see them ready for shipping. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me.
i can imagine some day they will make wagon wheels with a 3D printer .. do you sign or mark your work ? maybe , some day long after me and you are gone one of our great grand children might speculate where or who made those wheels .. good video , thanks
It will be a century or two before then can 3-D print cellular structure. The only thing they can do today is squirt cells and hope they stick. Wood is more like bone, but if you've ever driven into a tree, its a lot stronger them bone.
Mr. Dave, all I was referring to my self was the "A" mark some wear to show what a fantastic job YOU did so in the years to come your great,great, great great great grand children can say, my OLD whats his name did this.
Are Stoughton wheels from the same company in Stoughton Wisconsin that makes truck trailers? I didn't know they had been around that long. BTW (not that it is important but...) the locals would pronounce it Sto-ton, with a long o! Keep these great videos coming! I enjoy them a lot.
I thought for sure the screws for the blind rivets would have damaged the jaws of your bolt cutters. The screws looked to be some kind of construction screw which are case hardened?
After putting the hot rim on the wheel, why do you smack the rim with the hammer as you cool the r im down with water. Love watching your post. They are very interesting with a lot of information.
I may have missed something but do the rivets go on the sides of the spokes or through the spokes? Any reason for the single rivet that you know of? Another outstanding video and I learn something every time I watch one. Thank you for sharing them with us.
Good stuff, can you tell me what the benefit of using a washer rather than a rove would be ? I’ve done what seemed endless rivets in wooden boats with roves, never washers.
Hi, at 12:37 it seems to be something written on the hub, was that a clue to the origin ?, also when is it time for the fall blowing the shop looking forward to see your new blower.
I'm just a hobby smith compared to my Dad who did it for his living. Shoeing, sled work, cattle trimming, tools etc. I never got to see him work wagons much. So it's a pleasure to see your trade. Thank you for sharing.
Those are not only wheels but you turn them into works of art and the amount of tools that it requires to do the work is also is amazing! Keep the videos coming!
Ah, the sound of cut bolt/rivets pinging off the ceiling. Kudos for not marring the work surface while sanding them down.
Look forward to your posts on Fridays. Very relaxing way to end the week. I always learn something. The sound of the wheels (regular speed parts) is so satisfying when you place them on the floor, so solid....I don’t know how to describe, without rambling. Obviously the sound of perfection. Great video. Thanks for all your posts.
I love Friday , because I know I can watch you at work . I''ve noticed that as I watch my favorite western movies and tv shows I recognize wheel and hub types from watching you videos . Today on the Rifleman his buckboard had sarvan type hubs . Best UA-cam videos , love watching , thanks for bringing them to us !!
Another fantastic watch. One video, leads to another and a few more. Some days, the entire morning whittles away watching these videos. Thanks again.
These videos are not only entertaining, they are essential to learning about these old buggies and how they are constructed.
I recently bought two doctor style buggies and knew little about them but I'm learning fast thanks to these videos.
Neither have falling tops but they have the shifting rails. I just watched the buggy and surrey repair video and learned a bundle.
As they say, "a picture is worth a thousand words".
Thanks Dave, your effort is greatly appreciated!
If I ever get across the sea to visit I'd probably have to do some sweeping up or something just to provide a little appreciation for these videos . 👍🇬🇧
Your subscriber numbers keep climbing pretty soon you will be at a 100,000 which is good because, you deserve it and more.
Always a pleasure to watch you working and teaching about your trade and the differences between wheels.
@@EngelsCoachShop never it is like learning a trade always something or trick to learn.
Not sure how I missing this one. I thought I went back and watched everything you had put out.somehow I seemed to have missed this one. Great work as always!
👍👍❤️
A fellow I used to work with would often say:: "WHY?!?! BECAUSE ONE LEG IS BOTH THE SAME....." I had no idea he had WAGON WHEEL experience... :-) :-) Happiness is a Friday afternoon at ECS!!!
very interesting! thanks for showing about the rivets, I ran across the flat rivets the other day in a vintage Old Milwaukee sign the other day when a customer brought it in to see if I could refurbish it. Unfortunately I had to turn it down because it would've decreased the value, but after watching your videos it was really cool to know how the whole thing was made and to picture the old craftsmen building it by hand in the 1930-1940s.
Thanks Dave, for showing us in slow motion then in real time.how to do the rivets. i've broken three fingers and shattered six spokes. but i'm getting there.Doctor said i'll be back at it in 6 weeks. Greeting's from Holland.tippy top clip topper. oh yeh by the way. one of the rivets i cut off.hit my buddy in the eye..onward and upward...
Always a treat to watch! Dave, thanks for sharing these processes on you tube! I've always been curious how things were built in history and wagons and wheels are certainly no exception. So nice to watch a true craftsman!
Thank you for this video! You rebuilt a set of wheels for my Grandfather many years ago. He never got around to finishing the wagon before he passed and I’ve often wondered what those holes were meant to hold. I guess I need to find rivets!
Sad that this is a nearly lost craft, I do lots of radius woodwork from solid lumber...staircases, armoires and I consider myself a jig meister...specialty fixtures...and I see all the different fixtures you employ! I love what you do, please keep it up and I'll keepa watchin'! Thanks
Morning David as normal a lovely vlog and very interesting and informative with the different types of screw and rivet methods of securing take care 😀😀👍👍🇬🇧
As usual I clicked the thumbs up before I watched knowing I'd like it. This installment proved to be no exception. Thanks, Dave, for letting us watch.
Bill... I do the same thing and have yet to be disappointed.
Yep me to.
Russ Roepke has to
me too!
We thank you for your video Long or short
Wheels and tires, Wheels and tires, Wheels and tires...
It's amazing you never tire of wheels and tires...
You're a good man Mister Dave...Bravo!
You beat me to the joke.
@@kevinreardon2558 Sorry... But it's no joke...
@@RickOshay... OK, you beat me to the pun. To err is human, to pun is divine.
@@kevinreardon2558 There you go!
@@EngelsCoachShop We'll never get tired of you fixing wheels and tires
Mister Dave... Keep them coming!
15:20ish. Me: it's got to be hot working with those hot metal tires. Wonder if he drinks enough fluids.
15:30: Dave just drinks from the hose.
That's my kind of guy right there. Stay hydrated Dave.
Very elegant carriage wheels. As always, a treat to watch you work.
Not only are you a true craftsman. Your also preserving some of history. That's pretty awesome.
Thank you Mr. Dave for the time you dedicate to filming and who makes us part of your art, a good weekend a greeting.
I loved how accommodating you were with those visitors. It didn't particularly slow you down, and the man was sensible enough to give you room when that hot iron tire came out. It worries me that one day your back will have had enough, and make it at first very painful, and ultimately impossible to carry on. I hope you find a decent apprentice to do the heavy lifting if that comes to pass. I was impressed with your control of that big angle grinder. I have one that size, but rarely use it preferring a five inch that is easier to control. It gets a lot of use, and I have been doing this stuff for a lot of years (I am a retired toolmaker) but I don't think I was ever as good as you i.e. I would have struggled to take those rivets down so quickly without marking the fellows. So, as usual, I guess I am in awe of your shop skills, and this is coming from 40 years in a machine shop, and still doing shop stuff as a hobby 17 years after retirement.
Nice to study your methods, tools and routines on a wet sundaymorning n Holland.
They really fascinate.
Took me a while to figure out why the rivets. I thought they might split the grain. Then I remembered compression so they make the mortises tighter around the tenons. I love it when I think we're smarter then they were only to find out we're not too swift .
@Santina Murphy When it comes to these old folks, remember they were easily as intelligent as we are today. When I went into the Cairo Museum, they had on display a cartouche that requires a magnigying glass to see it. You had to have a diamond chisel to make that. But they didn't have diamond chisels, so here it is, right in front of me, so how did they do it? Whoever did it was smarter then me.
May GOD bless you and your family, Mr. Engle! And thanks for sharing.
Really like the craftsmanship!! Nice!! Thanks for sharing!!
Thank you Mr Engles for your time and effort to make the next generation of craftsmanship see what true effort can achieve....
Good job on the building old wagon the right way thank you from Oklahoma City
Glad to see you're staying hydrated. Natures remedy. Not to say I don't enjoy a cold Shiner after work. Thanks for the video.
thanks Dave for letting us watch
I love watching your free-hand drilling..... always spot on. Thanks for sharing and amazing us with your spectacular talent.
I feel so much better about the condition of my favorite tape measure after tonite....Thank You Sir!!
It is awful generous of you to invite people into the shop while you're working. You might be the only youtuber with that kind of open door policy!
Thanks for sharing Mr. Engels. It is amazing how you can remember so many deff. styles of wheels And I love the story behind them. Thanks again
With time lapse and editing it makes it look like no big deal, but having watched so many great videos, we know the hard work and amazing care that goes into your work!! Always impressed ❤️🇺🇸❤️
I second that.
You must have a better eye with that drill than I. I'd have to do that drilling in a press to get them straight. When I use tape to mark depth of cut on a drill bit, I just fold it over into a flap. It's easier to see when it reaches depth that way.
You're pretty good with that grinder! Pretty soon you'll be pretty real good with that grinder!
Love the 'tink' of the cut off screws as they land across the shop. "Incoming!"
I get something out of each video you do on the different wheels and tires or steel rims. Thanks for sharing with us.
A drink of water from the garden hose on a hot summer afternoon. Been doing it for over 60 years. Not going to stop anytime soon.
How many youngins saw Dave drink from a hose? Well kids that is how we drink. Not that bottled water, just give us a hose because that how we were taught.
I keep picturing a U shaped wood block with a hole that you can push the end of the water hose into and it keeps the cooling water on the rims without having to watch as you work around the wheel during the shrink process.
You make it look so, so easy! A sign of a true craftsman.
I love rounding and setting rivets so satisfying.
Check iconoclastconstructs on InstaGram for cool rivet work. :)
Beautiful work as ever, by both methods, and a bit of detective work on the last set too. Cheers
Thanks for teaching. You have a gift.
Just like every time I learned something this week
Ni stackare som gör tummen ned titta på något annat, eller skaffa er ett liv.
Tack för ytterligare en förnämlig video.
thanks for sharing your precious craft and abilities sir.
I really appreciate these videos to old to apprentice and this allows me to pick up some knowledge I can apply in my own shop always expanding my knowledge
LOL, they make smaller grinders. Love the videos.
Aah good hose water. Can’t beat it.
Thank you for sharing your skills with us a genuine craftsman
Enjoyed the video and it's fascinating work you do and how those steel wheels for right on the wood after heating them. Thanks for the video. Y'all take care and God bless.
Great video as usual. I remain fascinated by the sheer number of hammer strikes needed to build what you make. By a rough count on one rivet and multiplying by number of rivets i got about 2,000 strikes for just the setting of the rivets on that one wheel. I muse about how many total strikes in that entire borax wagon build! If I ever get to shake your hand please be gentle with your massive grip.
Thumbs up Dave to this and all your videos. I can watech these for hours. I wish I could visit your shop but then again I would be asking to many questions and get in you way. Excellent as usual.
thanks again for the look over your shoulder have nice weekend
Always interesting to watch another's skills 🇬🇧
Hello Dave. Looks like you may get a little snow soon 👍
I could spend my vacations coming to work with you! Your video are very didactic.
I would say he is the exact opposite of didactic. He never lectures.
Excellent work, Dave. I shared this with my family.
Nice touch with that angle grinder. I'd have gouged the hell out of the wood.
Sanding disc...I do mostly metal fab, but the sanding disc with back-up 'pad' sure helps prevent gouging...
Drinking on the job again I see Mr. Dave
Ya I drank from the garden hose when I was a kid too. That may explain a lot. But hey I'm still here!
I liked your sparklets water hose.
Thanks Dave, Happy Friday!
I'd love to come visit....but probably missed the window of opportunity this year. I heard Montana is going to be getting snow in the next couple of days.
*I can see that the screws might well be just as strong if not stronger than rivets, and because they are smaller diameter perhaps less likely to cause splitting along the grain of the felloes as the wood dries out.*
Mr Engels, have you ever been asked too or found a need to have your wheels balanced? It got me thinking of when I asked about the rpm on the hub boring machine last week.
As usual, superb!! Thank you, sir.
much to nice to put on a wagon. thanks.
Glad a few folks have a few spare $$$ to employ you.
Half the tape measures in my shop have the paint burnt off
When I see how you handle this heavy wheels I am always surprised how strong you are. молодец. Best wishes from russia.
Yeah, that work keeps you in pretty good shape...
Dave, one, maybe two of the wheels you showed appeared to have a “U” shaped rim? What is the purpose of that? I can’t imagine u-channel metal stock was common in the 1800’s, so they must have been horrendously expensive in those days?
Again, thanks so much for all your videos with the lovely Montana pictures. Very much enjoyed and appreciated.
Sincerely,
Rod
May I suggest using an air chisel for your riveting? Doesn't take much to adapt/make a tool to fit. And I know you have the compressor to run it. Might not seat all the rivet sizes, but can sure speed up the work for the diameters that are within range. And save you some wear on your hammer arm.
I have been following your channel for a while and it occurred to me to ask if you have an apprentice to learn your skills. The work is heavy so a helping hand would ease your work load and preserve the skills into the next generation.
Mr. Engles Please be sure to show the wheels in their finished condition. I'd love to see them ready for shipping. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me.
Mr. Engels did a nice job crating some wheels for shipment in an earlier video you could check out. I think they were cannon wheels
@@kennyg1358 Thanks Kermit, I've already watched the videos on the cannon wheels.
i can imagine some day they will make wagon wheels with a 3D printer .. do you sign or mark your work ? maybe , some day long after me and you are gone one of our great grand children might speculate where or who made those wheels .. good video , thanks
A real good point being made here " Mr. Dave".
It will be a century or two before then can 3-D print cellular structure. The only thing they can do today is squirt cells and hope they stick. Wood is more like bone, but if you've ever driven into a tree, its a lot stronger them bone.
Mr. Dave, all I was referring to my self was the "A" mark some wear to show what a fantastic job YOU did so in the years to come your great,great, great great great grand children can say, my OLD whats his name did this.
What caused those gaps in the rear wheel felloes that can be seen around 13:20? It kinda looks like someone cut wood or joint samples for inspection.
I always enjoy your videos
Are Stoughton wheels from the same company in Stoughton Wisconsin that makes truck trailers? I didn't know they had been around that long. BTW (not that it is important but...) the locals would pronounce it Sto-ton, with a long o! Keep these great videos coming! I enjoy them a lot.
I thought for sure the screws for the blind rivets would have damaged the jaws of your bolt cutters. The screws looked to be some kind of construction screw which are case hardened?
After putting the hot rim on the wheel, why do you smack the rim with the hammer as you cool the r
im down with water. Love watching your post. They are very interesting with a lot of information.
And a big thank you!
Great video, as always.
The blind rivits look like they put there to stay, is there any way to replace the felloes without destroying them?
Excellent as always
Thank u i've learned alot from u ❤
I may have missed something but do the rivets go on the sides of the spokes or through the spokes? Any reason for the single rivet that you know of? Another outstanding video and I learn something every time I watch one. Thank you for sharing them with us.
Another fun video. Thanks.
ur a true craftsman
Good stuff, can you tell me what the benefit of using a washer rather than a rove would be ? I’ve done what seemed endless rivets in wooden boats with roves, never washers.
Not sure I understand the purpose of the spoke ribbits. Is it to stop the wood rim from splitting around the spoke socket?
Hi, at 12:37 it seems to be something written on the hub, was that a clue to the origin ?, also when is it time for the fall blowing the shop looking forward to see your new blower.
Wish I could see Montana just once. But it isn't in the cards. I know you appreciate what you have.
Spent 2 months there back in 1974, and never will forget the beauty of the land, and the warm wholesomeness of the people I met and did business with.
Thanks Dave.
HOw many miles will a new wheel like that roll ?
If you ever make it to Bozeman area let’s have a beer!