The Bikes We ACTUALLY Ride At Home + More Underrated Bike Stuff - The Wild Ones Podcast Ep53 SPECIAL
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
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00:00 Francis’ rim brake Scott road bike
03:29 Francis’ Triban gravel commuter
04:52 Francis Scott Addict gravel bike
06:04 Francis ‘ornamental’ baby blue Willier
06:46 Francis e-cargo bike
07:30 Emily's Canyon Ultimate
09:37 Emily’s Cannondale Topstone
11:45 Jimmi’s bright pink Time Alp D’Huez
12:11 Jimmi’s hand illustrated one-of-a-kind road bike
12:49 Jimmi’s custom steel off-roader
13:38 Jimmi’s custom steel race bike
14:17 Jimmi’s ‘flame paint’ Time ADHX
14:55 How do you keep sweat out of your eyes?
16:57 How different is Tiagra and 105 really?
20:43 Is it a good idea changing forks to get more tire clearance?
26:00 Tips for riding in a group
31:11 Is SRAM & Shimano cross compatible?
33:43 Are expensive cycling shoes really better?
36:25 Bike crash - who was in the wrong?
39:38 Overrated/Underrated: tan wall tires
41:11 Overrated/Underrated: building a bike from parts
43:49 Overrated/Underrated: hybrid bikes
46:13 Overrated/Underrated: cargo bib shorts
48:09 Overrated/Underrated: latex tubes
48:21 Overrated/Underrated: deep section rims
49:45 Overrated/Underrated: Bromptons
51:30 Overrated/Underrated: big graphics on frames and wheels
52:25 Overrated/Underrated: renovating your house
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Would this not takeaway from the video views?
Episode where Emily preps her bikes for sale and sells them documenting that process, prep tips etc. Episode where Emily gets a bike fit with James. Episode where Emily builds a bike based on bike fit with James with her dream frameset (maybe with Nick's mechanical tips and tricks?). Please good sirs and lady.
43:20 Video Idea: Emily gets a bike fit, buys a new all road frame then builds it with the help from Nick.
I'd watch those videos; James on the fit. Nick on the build. Emily on the bike!
Your productions are without doubt one of the most entertaining and informative creations on UA-cam. Please keep up the excellent work. ATB
Please have Bike Fit James as a guest one day. I love his sarcy demeanor and watch game.
yes!
Can’t James pop over one day for a cup of tea, cake and a chat.
I'd LOVE to see a video about emily getting a new gravel bike and road tire set and just the thought process and picking out hte frame and components. This is essentially what ive done (minus the second set of wheels at the moment) but I think it would make a great video since a lot of us want to go this route
i started on a trek fx1 in covid.... now i have 12 different bikes across different eras and different disciplines. absolutely a gateway drug.
I started in 2016, I’m getting my 13th tomorrow, I feel you brother. Also documented almost all of them on my UA-cam « channel » 😹
About Hybrid bikes. My wife has one. When we started riding together we both bought roadbikes. My wife could not get used to the aggressive position of the roadbike. She sold it and bought a hybrid. The more relaxed position helps her be more confident which makes her ride the bike more which is ultimately the goal.
Same situation but we went with a gravel bike.
I always tell people who are wanting to buy a bike, buy a bike you think looks rad and you want to ride. As you said most bike are really good now so in the end I think it comes down to what attracts you
Regarding hybrids - getting back into cycling 4 years ago, 1st bike I bought was a hybrid. 2 years later I bought a road bike - but i still regularly ride my hybrid, using it as a off road bike or in snow / terrible weather. Yes it is considerably slower, but so what? still have awesome fun on it. Also I did my 1st century ride on it, and regularly ride 2-3 hrs at a time on it, with no hand comfort issues. A big advantage with it is replacing parts is incredibly cheap - a cassette is £15, a bottom bracket is a tenner. Yup they don't last as long but it means I don't have to worry about damaging anything as much. It's done about 13k miles and is still going strong!
Don't even ride road bike and yet I still love this podcast. I've come to believe that part of the reason I watch it/ listen to it it's because I love your accents, especially Emily's
Only now I realize that Emily has a different accent from Jimmi. I have thought in the past that I like Francis' accent. I can't place either one, though.
@@Frostbiker Jimmi's from Wales, Cardiff I think he's said previously, and I believe Emily is from Newcastle Upon Tyne, where they're based now.
Hello Emily, Jimmy and Francis! I’m such a big fan of the show! How about doing a pro bike fit featuring Emily as mentioned on this episode?
There are plenty of people touring the world on flat handlebars. They can be made just as comfortable, brake access is much better on steep descents, and if you have to fix something in the middle of the desert, you're glad that you can take the grips on and off in a matter of seconds.
Great podcast this week, Team Cade Media 👏 My apologies to Francis & Jimmi for not saying hello on the BA flight to T5 on Monday morning......A two part series with Emily having a bike fit Tuesday with James & a follow up video, with an all road frameset purchase and component build ?
Yes, this! Love the bike-fitting videos, and it would be interesting to hear what measures James would take to deal with Emily's back problems.
@@lysanatt let's hope the videos are made 👍🙂
Halo brand headbands have a silicone band that diverts sweat to your temples. Game changer for sweat in the eyes.
Been using Halo headbands for years. They have a rubbery band that directs the sweat towards your ears. Highly recommended
Cade Media, please take care of your employees. Please, take Emily to James and get that girl a bike fit! And yes, film it of course so we all get to enjoy the hazing, cheers.
you guys are easily becoming the most accessible, sensible and easiest to listen cycling podcast. keep up the good work - Listening from Western Australia
Emily should look at a argon 18 krypton, holds up to 40mm tires! Light and great geometry with internal storage
100% !!!
Definitely do the bandana if you don't have a full head of hair. You won't get a sunburn through the openings of your helmet, it will absorb sweat, and you can take your water bottle and squirt water through your helmet openings to cool down. I never go out without one, and have been doing it for years and years.
Made my own bike over lockdown, had never done it before, helped keep me sane after work.
Re-head sweat - I just wear a buff. Keeps it all away from the eyes, and goes in the wash as soon as I get home. Perfect for summer, and great for winter too. In addition - any shoes can be made more comfortable with custom insoles. I've never been more comfy in 2 different shoes (cheaper plastic then Lake) with these. Properly worth the money as they last years and, as design, fit you exactly.
What's a buff? I have tried literally everything, hats of various sizes and thicknesses, sweat bands of different sizes and thicknesses (including the halo ones with the silicon strip), and a "sweat gutter" silicon drain rail type thingy. Nothing is even close to working. I sweat like a leaky tap when its full sun, I can literally see a stream of water dripping down during max efforts. I'll try anything, but nothing has worked and I have been looking for a few years.
I definitely understand the heavy bike issue especially on hilly routes. I had a steel frame gravel bike and I switched to a carbon fiber frame. It’s so much lighter and makes my rides way more enjoyable. The thing I wish I would have looked into more when I bought my Lauf was more climbing gears in the back. I’m looking into getting a bigger cassette one of these days. So many good categories in overrated/underrated today! Great episode!
As a profuse sweater, have you tried the halo bands? I sweat a lot, yet during my zwift heavy winters they keep sweat out of my eyes.
Well worth the money and after trying several hands the halos seem to work best for me
Finally it's Thursday...podcast time 🎉
"Way too big tires" on the Scott Gravelbike - Dylan Johnson would approve how it's currently speced 😂
for sweat in eyes, you have to check out Halo headbands, can barely notice it on your head, best sweat stopper.
That pink Time Alp D’Huez bike is a thing of beauty
really appreciate your honesty! Thanks and love
Bromptons need to have the bag on the front with a 6 pack in it… it stabilizes the steering so much
Hi Francis, Jimmi, & Emily. Great podcast and thank you so much for answering my question (16:57), really useful information. Now looking forward to that video you have in the pipeline.
RE cargo bib shorts & crashing with keys in the pockets 46:13 I actually did that last year, the first time I wore that pair of bib shorts. Thankfully I didn't get keys stuck in me, but they did tear a huge hole through the outer layer of the pocket and I got rather nasty bruise on the outside of my thigh from them as well. So, keys stay in the bar bag or saddle bag, now.
For the sweat in the eyes, Castelli makes very light headbands. I wear them and they're very good. I have hair, but I sweat quite a bit and sweat usually drips in my eyeglasses, it was the best solution I found. Standard caps are fine, but they were causing me to have to move my head a bit higher and generating neck strains.
I'd also give a shout to Halo headbands, great products for heavy sweaters
Yeah. I've been using the ones made by bontrager. I can't believe they didn't have the correct answer.
I use a met trenta 3k helmet that is very vented in front, with sungod aria's in the bottom frame only. The two leave a evenly 1.5/2mm gap between that blow air as I'm riding. I sweat profusely & unless I'm walking into a bathroom out of the breeze, the combo seems to keep it out of my eyes!
+1 for Halo headband. Works very well
@@joekawasaki I loved my MET helmet, but they're very hard to find in my city and I got pissed at them for charging 35$ shipping on 30$ replacement foam inserts.
About sweat while riding there is a thing called a bicycle skull cap, they even make cooling ones, they fit on under the helmet.
No annoying hat brim Emily. 😀
fighter pilots and race drivers use similar products under their helmets for the same reason.
I love this podcast guys, thanks
38:59 VULFPECK!! What a boss move by that group.
Love the podcast, it’s my daily listen to and from work 🙏🏻
I must agree, that black bike looks gorgeous
Can't stop watching! ��
Final comment.
Building bikes; under rated!
Absolutely loving your videos, love the tone you all set. Warm, generous, fun, just wonderful.
More of this sort of thing!
I don't know why I waited so long to hop on the podcast after being a fan of the channel for so long. This is so good. Cheers all!!
Man, that blue Willier...
100% agree with the “space” advice for the London Brighton 100km ride.
I’ve done this a few times and there are definitely more noobs than trustworthy/experienced riders.
Loads of near misses with riders taking unpredictable lines / not communicating / braking out of the blue.
So stay safe and away from others as much as possible.
Here is Cape Town, SA it gets super hot. Runners and cyclists use Vaseline (Petroluem Jelly) above our eybrows. The sweat just runs down the side of your face, instead of your eyes. Works really really well.
Halo sweatbands for sweat management are very, very good.
Ngl Emily is kinda right @28:54. Don't be afraid to speak up when someone in the group is riding weird. I mean, be nice about it, but do bring it up. It can potentially save from a bad crash.
For Pete having been out of the saddle for 12 years.... Ask Jimmi if he is willing to sell you his TIme ADHX since that doesnt have a saddle, Pete should be right at home on it.
Lol.
That was my question. Thanks for the chuckle.
@@wandering_pete Glad Im not the only one having had the same reaction. 😄
How to keep sweat out of your eyes: skull cap helmet liner. Fold a paper towel into a flat 2-inch band and tuck it under the cap elastic just over your eyebrows. Works like a charm.
Thank you all for down to earth bike show brilliant
I run a fidlock bottle on a Minoura saddle mount when I ride my track bike on longer rides. It's super easy to access, but putting it back take a bit of practice, though in my experience it's easier that dealing with the tight bottle cages you need for that mounting position. Definitely recommend trying this as a solution.
46:13 I found that cargo bib pockets make really good trash pockets for empty gel. I put my new gels in my jersey pockets and the empty ones in the cargo bib pockets. It keeps everything so much cleaner
I'm thinking about the same as you Emily, trading in my road and gravel bikes and getting an All Road. The Cervelo Aspero is very tempting. Loving these podcasts, not missed one 👍🏻
Hello guys, love the channel. On the sweat issues I tried Halo II Headband, It absorbs part of the sweat but also it deviates it to the sides with a slim silicon strip. on a very hot day at some point it will fails but nothing that a quick squeeze cant fix. Much better than nothing, is comfortable, light, slim, fits under any helmet.
I have a Scott Addict Gravel 30 with 40 Pirelli Gravel M, it's not quite as fast as my Cervelo roadie but is probably my favourite, it is just so smooth and quiet on the road.
In answer to Craig about 11 speed mixing. On my mountain bike I run Sram XD 1180 10-42 cassette with Shimano XT M8000 rear mech and shifter. With a Sram PC1110 chain as well! Absolutely perfect shifting. I also have a gravel bike with the Shimano 11 speed compatible Microshift brifter with an XT M8000 rear mech on an SLX cassette and the PC1110 chain. Again, no shifting problems. I think 11 speed is the sweet spot in Sram/Shimano cross-compatibility (in gravel/mtb anyway).
24:08 rear mounted bottle cages. The gorilla cages are really good in terms of holding bottles in
living in Florida we are regular recipients of blinding sweat. my current combo that has been most effective (for me and a couple of friends who have followed suit) is using a Sweat Gutr headband in combination with my Giro Aries helmet. the helmet also has a silicone strip in it. it doesn't eliminate 100% of the problem but it's significantly reduced for steady rides and much improved still when the hammer is down. i'd imagine the combo would do quite well in much less humid environments.
Building bikes is dangerously addictive. First there was a groupset upgrade on an older bike. That required research and clever solutions for compatibility issues. Then you think you know what you're doing. So I found an old Ti frame and stripped it back to metal and built it from scratch. That was fun 🙂. So sure, why not a modern CF bike (also used and a relative value build) using AXS for the first time. Yeah, that stuff makes it really easy even factoring in the hydraulic issues which are nowhere near as bad as people think. Read the directions and follow them and you're fine. So yeah, underrated.
Thanks for answering my question about cheap shoes!
That Wilier is so gorgeous!
The nukeproof v2 horizon are amazing for all bike use. They are made for extreme use. DH use mainly. Plus are interchangeable in many different bikes both thru axle and qr. Plus it is for 135mm and 148mm.
Castelli makes a lightweight summer riding headband that is excellent. I often ride in the US on multi day multi century rides in 100F heat. They work great Fiordland sweat management.
23!
We raced on 18s!
19 Wolber Neo Pros were massive! 😂
Tubeless is a shout, but problematic at 23mm!
I sewar by "sweatbuster" - they are awesome. Easy to wring out. Also - while in a gravel ride I can stop at a stream, reinse and cool down the sweat bad. and I perspire heavily. Theye are made of a high absorbing towel material. Even when soaked they don't drip
I can totally relate to Emily's plans because I have acutally a same generation Topstone and tried to convert it to this "do-it-all"- / "harder-allroad"-bike with two wheelsets. (great for bikepacking!)
The problem is that the 2019/20 generation's frames of the Topstones 105s need asymmetrical spoked wheels on the rear and is also not made for electronic shifters, so I am also looking into getting something different in the coming 18 months or so. It just limits you on wheel (-changing) options. (looks like the current generation got rid of this problem)
Despite this problem, my bike shop managed to put on the 2x12 Ultegra Di2 from my crashed road bike and now I've got a quite nicely modified 2019/20 Topstone "105".
"Vegan Gravel" had me laughing out loud :D
I ride a flat bar hybrid, which is a Canyon Endurace aluminum frame with Ultegra groupset. I put TT bars on it and some SQ labs inner bar ends for more hand positioning/comfort. I use it just like a standard road bike for commuting and fun rides. I think I would like drops on it someday though.
Brompton....
Underrated.
More than just a commuter bike.
Ridden mine on Ride Essex 60 and BHF London to Brighton.
Recently also used it on Scottish canals.
Handles light gravel surprisingly well.
I think you are right on the mark about the differences in groupsets. I happily rode Sora for several years. Lovely groupset. Until… I started to ride with a group ride. I noticed that when I'm not pedalling my own pace, I found myself in between gears trying to find my preferred cadence. I made the jump to 105 (12-speed mechanical) and riding in the bunch is less stressful and more fun. If I still rode exclusively on my own, would have stayed with Sora.
I switched from a vented road helmet to an aero helmet because of sunburns on my head. The Oakley Aro 7 helmet has a silicone band/strap on the front of the forehead the redirects the sweat away from the eyes instead of absorbing it. Riding in Hawaii, it does a nice job of keeping sweat out of my eyes until i take it off when all the sweat then dumps straight down my face.
Hundred percent on hybrid bikes. I tried out hybrids and drop bars before I bought a bike for commuting 15 years ago, the hybrids were (just as Emily said) less intimidating, especially since I'd never sat on a drop bar bike before. That hybrid gateway (Kona Dew) led to longer rides, and eventually my first drop bar bike (Scott Speedster) and thousands of miles on both. Still use the Kona Dew with panniers for commuting, and my Scott Speedster for long days out.
@16:50
Try Halo Headbands.
Was recommended them by a sikh friend who uses the doo rag version to comply with his religious customs and keep sweat out of his eyes.
I just use mine to keep sweat out of my eyes, they're amazing.
I live in south France, witch Can be very hot in the summer, Pantani badana work so good i can't help recommand it enough for the heavy sweater. Cheers have a good day.
That Scott bike is really nice.
The old Oakley Factory Pilots had a sweatband built in. It was lovely.
Swap that straight seat post for a setback, and throw on a 90mm stem maybe? Might just love it!
I run a rear-mounted bottle cage on a fixie that I use as a kind-of-roadbike and kept loosing bottles due to the shape of the bottle cage. Tried different ones and settled on the elite custom race with the little grippy bit in the middle. Never lost a bottle since.
The space and group ride conversation is definitely a good point. I did Fred Whitton this year and found a lot of groups a bit dangerous, no communication and a few sudden moves including slamming the brakes on in front of two of us on a descent and then swung to the right 🤦🏻♂️
Great vid.
Nice to hear the love for the Triban.
I'm getting one end of the month which leads to my question...
Does Nick work at the shop in Richmond?
I use Zollen Mens Headbands 3 Packs Guys Sweatband and Sports Headband for Men for Running, Cross Training, Racquetball, Working Out from Amazon. I'm bald and have hearing problems and bought them to help reduce wind noise from my hearing aids, however I also now never have the sweat in my eyes issue. They are slim enough to not require much adjustment of your helmet - and you can replace each time you stop.
Grip tape on the inside of bottle cage usually help keep the bottles in place.
Oh man, old man ranting here again!
When I was racing all tyres were tan or skin wall, I went crazy when black tyres came out.
A black tyre with the original Zipps, wow! What a look.
Not sure if it was mentioned, but E-Thirteen makes a 9-34 cassette for XD (or xdr with a spacer). I'm using a 2x Shimano 11 speed road group on it, works great
re: sweat in your eyes. As a balding 50 something who is also quite a heavy sweater, I use head bands and they work a treat. The ones I use are quite thin but also quite wide so they fit snug under the front of my helmet.
Emily on fire in this Episode! 🔥🔥🔥 :D
Answer to Craig's question: You can use 11spd SRAM cassettes and chains with an 11spd Shimano group-set, and vice versa. XDR is specific to SRAM to enable the use of a 10t cog, and therefore only SRAM & 3rd party cassettes designed for XDR will work. Vision should/may sell a XG freehub body for your wheels (the main standard for 11spd< cassettes), which will allow you to use an 11spd SRAM cassette with the Shimano group-set.
I've ridden 11spd< SRAM cassettes with Shimano group-sets and chains for years, flawlessly. The same is true for 11spd< Shimano cassettes and chains, with SRAM group-sets.
I tend to use Shimano chains are they're the most efficient, however KMC and SRAM chains are perfectly fine to use also.
As a mechanic I mostly service bikes 11spd
Met and Bluegrass used to use a gel section on their helmets at the front. Was super soft and comfy and also created a barrier that would divert sweat away from your eyes. I think it’s an option on met helmets now but makes them even pricier.
Hybrid bikes are the descendants of the original safety bike. The first generation of mountain bikes - named clunkers - were hybrid bikes. In Germany we call hybrid bikes trekking bikes and city bikes since decades.
I use a sweat Gutr to keep the sweat out of my eye's. Works for other sports as well.
Building your own bike from parts is the most underrated thing in the bike industry. I bought a Cyclocross bike from a store and it was a whole shitshow of problems. Currently swapping to a new frame and fixing all the problems. I would have been better off, if I just built a bike from scratch.
Ah, excellent. Time to make a cup of coffee and relax for an hour.
Bell do have good sweat channel in helm, it actually moves it forward and it drops in front of you.
i put some claris shifters on an 8 speed monster gravel i built up pre gravel purchase and was pleasantly surprised how lovely they were. and i am a sram fan boy.
I wear a very thin material head band to keep sweat out of my eyes. It works great! It starts above my eyebrows and goes just above my hairline. I can even wear it on the turbo for the same benefit
Pete should look at the Dolan rdx, £1500 with 105 hydraulic and you get to spec your bar width, stem length, tyres etc. great bike
Hybrid bikes - underrated. I ride my hybrid when I ride with friends and family members who aren't hardcore cyclists. Did a 4.5 hr ride with a friend a fortnight ago. He was on a Cannondale Synapse and I was on a Rocky Mountain. If I was on my Bianchi, I would want to be smashing it.
Great episode……Emily get a 3T Exploro. Just got one and it’s aero, fast, more of a road geometry…..and I have two carbon wheelsets. One with 42mm gravel tyres and one with 28mm road tyres. Looks the business too 👍
Re cap under helmet: I've noticed less sweat drip / run when wearing the under-helmet cap backwards. Also protects neck, and I suspect it might be more aero (not that I greatly care) as the peak may trip / channel the airflow.
On Shimano/SRAM and the Vision wheels - you can often get a free hub body from the manufacturer of the wheels and just swap the body. Typically reasonably economical relative to wheel cost
Hi 😊i have been watching you guys for years and really love your podcasts.This one is the best and most interesting one ive ever watched ❤good job guys. PS has jimmy been to Australia? cause im fairly certain that jimmy's tattoo is a life sized portrait of our Queensland mosquitoes 🤣🤣🤣😇😅