Should You Ever Fold A Set ??? - Kyle Fischl Poker Vlog Ep 187
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
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This is going to be the next episode of my Poker Vlog. I played 1/3 Deep at One Eyed Jacks in Sarasota Florida. I play better than I think I have been playing the last few weeks. I attribute the better playing to extra time studying on Pokercoaching.com.
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Good stuff, keepem them coming...Peace...!
i like that you are honest and that you show your losses. kudos
Finally…been waiting!
Your videos are great and very enjoyable to watch and listen to your comments.
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Have you ever seen the old man coffee 3 bet AK or any hands other than AA and KK?
QQ hit set you were gold, you had the best hand.
I have never seen someone not show when I make a ridiculous fold and am wrong.
If I had the best hand, wat did my opponent have 🧐?
AK, you were playing like a scared Lil kid, horrible fold
@@kylefischl6841 Why do you assume he only could have kk or aa?
@@herrvorragend3542 ak, aq, aj, a-10, kq, kj, k-10, qj, q-10, jj, 10-10, . Any of these are possibilities. ak most likely but I don't even think he was that strong. KJ suited or AJ suited are strong possibilites.
He c-bets the flop. KK doesnt do that AA could but I think AA is unlikely when he bets out the turn. The only other hand that is beating you is J-10. He may have raised preflop with suited j-10.
New subscriber here, enjoying your layout and commentary and tips! I'm new to poker and new to vlogging as well, where do you get your video clips from to insert?
LOL I love your descripton of OMC btw ;)
Nice job bud. Just making comment since it helps you grow!!
13:50 “our hand blocks the nuts” with neither a king or queen in your hand 😂😂
He meant to say unblocks
And the showdown value is zero.
@@spaffron4285 why would you want to unblock the nuts when thinking about going for a bluff?!?
You know the players that play in your game best .
Please do a deep dive into that 88 hand......for your own benefit.
6:06 is proof you dont fold sets just because A Q 10 is on board, AK gets there cannot put them on a cooler like that, but then a few hands later a lower set coolers you with A 10
Kyle, you look swole as hell in the intro. 🏋️♀️
No just fat
Gained 20 pounds just eating and drinking too much
@@kylefischl6841 welcome to married life, lol.
@@7CardFlushPoker we miss you come back to making vids
@@mageloffracing501 hey I appreciate that. I’ve been very blessed in my career this last year and unfortunately it just doesn’t really leave any time to make content- in fact I don’t even get to play poker that much anymore.
Don’t get me wrong- I’ve considered it. Maybe when my career slows down I can revisit it. 🙏
I aint mad at the QQs fold, Ive done something like that before too, OMCs get no action lbvs, u played it right, i would have did the same thing, if he flats w/JJs he definitely woudl have flat w/AK even if it was suited more than likely, like u said gotta exploit the other players , gotta pay attention to what they do or dont do and adjust from there, ya 88s hand, I think I would have pulled the trigger on the river, a set, two pair or a straight would have raised ya bet, and he looked like a OMC too, he definitely would have pushed ya raise if he had better, I look forward to ya next vlog!!
Thank you for the comment
One of the few that understand the QQ fold
In the moment and before JJ hand there wasn’t even a doubt in my mind it was a good fold
After JJ though I couldn’t believe I even got so many comments saying it was a bad fold
He's smoking too much weed, and that fold was horrible, if he has aces so be it but that's 1 hand, terrible
@@kylefischl6841 whoever said it was a bad fold must have never sat at 1/2 or 1/3 or 2/5 with OMCs and see who super tight they are pre flop smh
Fold set to not but call him with one pair on ace king jack board. Got it. That’s why you don’t fold sets in those small games. And that’s why you don’t give free info then you level yourself.
What's your play for the remainder of the QQ set hand if it's a blank runout instead of A on the turn?
man the AT call is way worse than the QQ fold.
The QQ fold it just is what it is. If you're going to make a set only to fold, why even call preflop.
The AT line is just super strong, the limp-call, check-call, check-call, lead river on an A high board is never ever ever ever ever a bluff. Even ever. ATo is like bottom of range there, I would just snap fold all one pair hands.
Tod Brunson says to never fold a set; it’s 1 in 2000 to have a set over set situation
This was that 1/2000 situation
I go broke or double up if i flop a set! 😅
Hey Kyle love the vids. I have learned to practically never show my cards when I muck. I believe you were 100% right to fold your set of queens. Unfortunately by showing your hand you only accomplish potentially embarrassing him and letting him know you know exactly how he plays. This action led you to that bad call against him later with A-10.
QQ was a sick fold but in a 4 bet pot it looks good
Can't really roast you since I only called down a omc with set of jacks on a AJ7 flop. I even asked if he had aces and he said no. Well he did have aces and the table had a good laugh about it, but I lost the minimum by not raising.
88 vs j8 it looked like a QJ type of hand for him before the reveal
the 88 hand I think you can make an argument just folding flop. Youre hand is just too weak to continue across multiple streets and even an 8 can be bad for you.
I also think its a bad card to bluff with, especially facing a pot size bet. Would probably only be semi bluff raising with like QTs/QJs/KTs blocking effective nuts. especially at low stakes where large bet sizings just objectively mean strength. 88 is just a bit too strong and even 78s has some terrible reverse implied odds vs KQ there. Also, your opponent should be betting KQ there at some frequency especially with backdoor flush draws, drawing to the nuts.
GTO becomes more effectively when the villain does not play GTO. Playing the best GTO ranges, calls and folds will be most profitable when others are just playing random strategy. GTO when you play against other GTO opponents and that is when you need to find exploits. After saying that, being exploitative and folding a set when it is beat is the best way to minimize losing a major cooler.
13:20 Wish the river was a queen and his opponent wouldve donk jammed so he'd learn how atrocious of a bluff that was. So many better hands to turn into bluffs there
I understand that the hand played thus far is losing play, so maybe you think semi bluffing will fix it. I think it's losing hand out of position. Play this hand multi way or in position.
I mean I respect the read with QQ but you still can't fold to a small turn bet. There's exploitative and then there's just crazy. This was the latter.
if you're gonna play it like that you should have folded pre
I would love to see the life time earnings of the people telling you everything you did "wrong" in this session. I've watched enough of your videos to know you understand the game and you have good instincts. No one is going to win every hand. The key to longevity in this game is picking and choosing your battles. I've been at enough tables to come across the old guy drinking coffee who only plays big hands. Even if he only had AK on that hand where you hit the set with Q's there was still another card to come and it could just have easily been an A or a K to blow you out of the water. You made a decision and quite honestly it was probably the right one. These people telling you that you did anything wrong are most likely just talking out of the side of their mouths and don't actually win consistently at this game.
you might be right but saying things like "it could have easily come an A or K" is not helping your case lol
@@pugsnhogz Perhaps but I'll stand by what I said.
@@gavinshickle1814 ok then! :)
Never folding that set.
Hey man, I don’t care what people are saying in the comments. Against that specific opponent you made a good fold w QQ. The same guy limp called JJ UTG. And he did $125 again with a set lol.
Suggest another game.
Stack sizes? It's impossible to understand proper bet sizings without knowing stacks.
88: "I bet because I have the range advantage, wit no thought for opponent's likely range." QQ: "I fold based on opponent's likely range." Which is it? Seems like you are just rationalizing your actions after the fact. In the 88 hand, it was obvious to me that villain had an overpair. In the QQ hand, villain could easily have had AK. OMCs are not limited to exactly AA or KK. Any combo of those two cards are good enough usually, and then they continue when the flop hits them. When they have the nuts they usually also size up their bets, which he did not do. I definitely continue for less than 1/3p.
Second 88: This was crazy. Villain range bet flop and then polarized turn. You should not even be thinking about "this card is better for me than villain" after that bet. Vs low limit players, IMO, you should be thinking little more than "what does this bet mean?" To me it means, he hit the straight, a set or 2pr. 88 into the muck. Although the exact range was off, villain's hand was still way ahead of yours.
Yeah I was expecting you to fire $300-$315 on river putting pressure on all his 1 pair hands. You gotta fire there brother. We all knew 88 wasn't good there.
If anyone ever says live poker is dead show them this as proof that it is indeed live and well. I’ve seen Kyle misplay some hands over the vlogs, but by God that QQ fold was terribad.
Why you folding that set ?? Damn Kyle
He had AA, was not a doubt in my mind he had AA
@@kylefischl6841 I don’t think I’m good enough to make that fold.
Face up?? I don't mind the fold but do you want people to think you're Phil Hellmuth? Face up?? I almost stopped watching your vlog.
That's a dedicated play. If anybody thinks that's how tight he is generally then it's their mistake.
Lose the green screen 😅
13:15 (88) Raise??? This hand should not even be here.
Some people only raise 2 hands, Aces and Kings, and it will be for the $6 sizing at 1/2. The queens hand, it was nothing else if you have the raising range from your opponent. People in this comment section just don’t know…
Folding them face up I loved as well, it non verbally screams ur so tight that this is what you get, you kinda suck at poker.
Lots of misplay here wow. Giving up with 88 on river after re raising on the turn is so bad.
It wasn't a reraise, and it wasn't on turn
You’re playing bad Kyle. Pokercoaching is not helping you. You butchered most of the hands here
Are you saying his real profession is butcher?
I mean don’t sugar coat it
Yeah I’m sure he’s going to listen to a nobody
People bitching about the QQQ fold, what do you think he had besides exactly AK and OMCs HATE AK
Qqq hand you have to raise that flop 100% of time.
That probably would have been best
Get it in against AA and run it twice would have been profitable at least. 👍
Looks like a nit fest & scared play to me
LOL @that 88 hand with 4 overs on the board thinking you good? Tighten it up man, c'mon...Too much head game s**t. Play your cards...
I think probably just fold that one preflop. I don't like small pairs out of position against one opponent only.
Wow I am never folding a set there. If he has AA or KK so be it. He most likely either had AK or a bluff.
The omcs rarely rarely rarely bluff.
@@Lurorunner26.2 Then he had AK. Still winning. He didn't have AA or KK. The odds of him having 1 of those 2 hands is 1 in 120 and set over set in a heads up pot 1 in 7800.
@@Jolly-Green-Steve you’ve never been set over set? It’s not as rare as you think.
@@Lurorunner26.2 I used to grind 3-4 days a week. Hand would happen like 2-3 times a year. 1 in 7800 man.
Certain players don't make that play with AK preflop, which means they can't have it postflop either.
Why would you show the QQ? Do you want the most exploitable player at the table to start playing differently? Also, your raise with the flush is foolish. A player like that is never paying off a raise without a nutted hand.
I don't think he is every betting 25 twice with a full house. Maybe raise to the minimum because he looks weak.. like 50.. but I never just call.
@@shawnbrands8192 You need to understand that many (or even most) recreational players, especially OMC's don't bet based on percentages of the pot. They bet dollar amounts that they're comfortable with. I've seen ones that bet $10 flop, $10 turn, $10 river (in 1/2). Or $10/15/20 or 10/20/30 regardless of if the pot is $40 or $400.
QQ fold forsure made me stop watching you awful fold
im not even sure how you think you fold to a 1/3 pot bet with a flush draw out there hell he could have had Jx of hearts just turn barreling picking up more equity
You fold QQQ so you are scared money. You should NOT be playing poker.
I am scared money, and a winning player.
Stopped watching after set fold. You do not know poker
bro wtf is this vlog
If OMC is such nit that he only raises AA or KK , then why not just fold any hand and not get involved at all? Treat it like a misdeal.
Yes. Don't set mine this spot. The price isn't very good.
16:03
16:06 ...
Kyle, come on now, you flop a set of Queens, and fold FACE UP on the Ace turn card??? Pretty nitty, even if you were correct. I think maybe if you called the $100+ turn bet, you could have mucked FACE DOWN on a huge river bet. I know you wanted to look like you could read your opponent’s soul, but giving free info of you were incorrect is only valuable to everyone else at the table.
Yes. I think the biggest problem is it let's everyone know how serious you are about winning, and possibly make the table a bad one to play at.
Folded set Q. 🥱 Mook move
😬 folding queens 🫅 🫅