What's even better is people buy full sus bikes and find out they don't like mtb at all. It gives me a good shot at getting a used bike for a great deal.
I've been a bike mechanic for 26 years. You are absolutely correct. A functional bike is the best bike. I fix other people's bikes, but I ride steel frames with simple parts. No hydraulic stuff to bleed, no batteries to charge, they always work. Keep bikes simple. Excellent video.
Nothing wrong with a good set of V brakes so long as you can keep the rims straight, I also quite fancy downgrading some of my hydraulic brake bikes to mechanical disc. makes maintenance so much easier and practical.
Great philosophy! I'm very happy with older bikes, but I appreciate not having to ride the cheapest bikes. When I was young, I rode hand-me-down bikes which was okay at the time. But when I was able to spend a few hundred dollars on an intermediate level bike ... what a difference! That being said, almost any bike can be a source of pleasure.
Yes. I agree with you absolutely. I ride what I call RAMbikes ... road-adapted mountain bikes. My favourite is my Diamondback Wildwood restomod with 100% Alivio components. The key is to keep it well-lubed and adjusted. KISS ... keep it sweet and simple.
I gotta admit, the worst thing about most mtb channels is how the bikes they test are top spec and incredibly expensive. It's hard to relate when the frame of the bike being reviewed is already more expensive than my entire e-bike. It's great to find a relatable channel for a change, keep up the great work 👍
Many channels are simply extensions of bike industry advertising departments...I steer clear of any channel that makes "Dream Build" videos or hilights a particular bike, including videos that show latest tech or "must have" gadgets.
@@ffwast I think that's because "budget bike" is industry marketing bs for 'cheap'. And for bikes, cheap means cheap componentry. For i think most folks have a budget, thus calling a certain range of bikes 'budget bikes' is illogical, thus I suspect marketing bs.
I love this philosophy. It can be applied to most things in life. Most often, simple is better, assuming a reasonable level of quality. Simple things break less. When they do break, they’re easier to fix. They tend to last longer. Simple things force you to develop your skills, rather than relying on the tech. Often, you are forced to be more creative. Typically, they are cheaper as well. Though I have been known to spend more to get something simple, but high quality. Good for you! Thanks for sharing this message.
You are right I have a tourney mech and it's 16 years old it's still working so what's the need of upgrading it even to an Altus what's point?a marginal improvent in shifting I'm an expert in shifting to lower gears because of tourney's shitty😂downshifting When I rode my friend's xt mech I saw no difference
100% agree. i've been riding the same 26" hard tail since 1999. still a lot of fun. when i first started MTB in 1997 I used to see this guy on a road bike bombin down the trails. he was better and faster than me. shows it's the rider not the gear.
Matty is the type of dude that should spin up some mtb clinics. Get people involved, keep it basic, and has the best demeanor for helping others start or continue journey in bikes.
I have two bikes. I have a Roscoe 29er and a FS carbon Canyon. My Canyon is a cross country, so not tons of travel. But, its plenty for me. I’m 61, and don’t do anything too crazy. I just have fun and try to stay healthy!
My second bike is a steel single speed. I use it for intown riding and paved bike paths. It's probably got about the same mileage as my full suspension.
I love your attitude thank you... we jump into every new hobby as a family so that means we have to buy everything 3 times so finding a budget option is always the goals
This is 100% the best way to look at all things in life but especially an expensive hobby like this. When I was a kid the guy that got the biggest props at the jumps was the one that was doing the same tricks on the beater bike that they borrowed from a buddy. I have a beater hard tail that I’ve been riding for years that I ONLY upgrade a part if it breaks beyond repair and so far I’ve only spent maybe $100 on it in the last 10 years lol.
I am 76 and the last time I rode a bike was 15 years ago. I recently got a bike and started riding again. I am starting slowly and relearning slow motion moves. Now, I enjoy the many hike & bike paths around the city. Soon, I will be out in the woods shredding...kind of!
I don't even ride mountainbikes, I live in the flat Netherlands, I commute to work. I really enjoyed the video though, you're enjoyable to listen too. Stayed for the personality and energy, very comfortable. Keep it up! Greetings from the Netherlands!
I bought a Trek Marlin 5 Gen 3 and it’s hands down the best bike that I have ever ridden. I’m just getting into the sport and having a blast. I’ll just upgrade parts as I get better. Took it to bentonville and was keeping up on blues to people that had bikes 3 times the cost of mine. It’s not the bike, it’s the rider.
I don't talk down cheap bikes but I'm very vocal about manufacturers that will sell you something labeled as a "Mountain bike" that will fall apart after a year of riding green trails. Happily they're getting scarce 😅
Honestly that's completely changed in the last few years. The newer Schwinns, Mongoose, and Ozark Trail models are all genuine mountain bikes that will last will last completely fine with normal care, and a few choice parts upgrades here and there. And, that's an awesome thing. Better bikes at better prices is good for all.
I share your philosophy. Great observations. Another point is security. Almost no one will want to steal my bike. Could it happen? Yes, but it’s not worth the time or money to take it. Thanks for sharing!
Exactly! Keep it functional and fun. It's so funny to hear you say these things because I have found myself on the same track. I'm desperately in search of a 90's Specialized Stumpjumper. Such an awesome ride. Cheers from Montreal QC😊
The cheap bike niche, we’ve all started somewhere with mountain bikes. I’ve recently sold all my bikes, now down to just one. Simple now, just go ride that’s the only choice now.
I'm not a roadie, but I'm learning my fellow mountain bikers and cyclists as a whole have a gear obsession problem. I ride dirtbikes mainly, but got a $1500 dollar FS bike I'm bombing down black diamond trails like nobodies business. People need to learn and accept its the rider not the bike. Yeah, bike shaped objects are freakin garbage, but any entry level $500 hardtail can get the work done. I can't ever see me exceeding the capabilities of what my bike is intended for, and as its a trail bike, its good at a lot of different stuff.
I went to full suspension due to comfort as I got older and it was way better on my over 50 joints. Rode HT for about 48yrs. Now I have more smiles after my rides:) love simple nice bikes since i was a kid.
Indeed. I ran XC and raced, dirt jumped, and rode vert BMX. I'm a mess from injuries and over 50, but still love two wheels on dirt. I can afford one bike at a time. My Ripmo AF may never get pushed to the limit, but it always brings the smiles and occasionally saves my bacon when an old injury says hello at the worst time. I'll never judge a rider based on their bike, just like I don't want to be judged for not riding my bike like JKW.
I bought a used hardtail XC race-bike because it was lightweight and the right size for me. I could have bought a full suspension, but I don't need that, and certainly not the added weight. I also looked at gravel bikes, but.... meh. I like to enjoy fairly easy trails with gentler hills, and I certainly don't jump. That XC bike fills the bill perfectly. Just a couple of tweaks here and there to dial in the fit and my riding position, and I now have a jack-of-all-trades bike that goes anywhere I point it.
@MTBMOR I've been doing pretty much all my own maintenance since I started racing BMX almost 30 years ago. Then I got into DH/Dual Slalom, then XC after a bad wreck. So, my mechanical skills have grown alongside the industry. There's still some stuff I don't tinker with either because of the complexity, or I just don't want to. I can't rebuild *any* shock or fork, for instance. While I can build wheels, it frustrates me (though I true my own wheels). I don't swap tubeless tires very often because it's a mess and I don't have an air compressor in my apartment, loose pack hubs with ball bearings are a pain in the butt. Once you've collected all the specialty tools over time it makes everything a lot easier, like having a cup press rather than the "wood block and hammer method" as one example. And now everyone is in the absolute golden age of maintenance with tons of UA-cam videos for almost every year of every component, etc. I basically learned from age 11 on by reverse engineering. They're pretty simple machines, though, at the end of the day.
Yes, I love this! Im a bike mechanic and I champion the commuter, the person who rides for fun. I just got a Trek FX1 the most basic bike model and I enjoy it more for its simplicity.
Lol is OK not been a shredder U just simply don't ride gnar stuff There's no way u can fly with that in wa state A bike like a Ozark or such will fall apart immediately 🎉
Some of us don't care about shredding, or going up and down mountains. Some of us have no desire to come to the state of Washington. But I'm sure you have never had a bike break or a part fail because you get the best bikes and parts that money can buy. Unfortunately, you probably don't see the forest for the trees.
Good points! I have something to add however. Truth be told…I’m old…I have a few extra bucks, I like the feel of a “nice” bike, I have scoliosis, I want a comfortable bike with some shock absorbency. I like mtn and gravel bikes, used to race road bikes, but I am now in love with comfort. Having a little more expensive bike gives me pleasure when I ride. It’s comfortable and gear changing is smooth. I have an xcaliber and an SL6 trek checkpoint… Both bikes make me happy. I once fell on a rigid bike and 3 shoulder surgeries later …this was when I was just learning and I’m sure it traumatized me. LOL! I’m not knocking the rigid bikes. To each’s own….more power to you if you enjoy these bikes. I get it. They’re just not for me. I like having a little suspension and cushy tires. These two bikes may be a little more than I need but they enhance my experience. Bottom line I suppose is…we all enjoy our bikes and they make us happy and support our well being!
Love your honesty! I watched KevCentral and bought a Mongoose Grit because of him. You can buy a cheap bike and then upgrade as you go. Love your perspective! And I'm from Rogers AR! My step dad was from Pine Bluff. My dad was from Dardanelle Take care.
You are basically talking about the joy of “underbiking”. I’m with you. I have access to pretty nice mountain bikes, but I’ve been enjoying the simplest ones most lately
Underbiking, I think is more riding below your ability. I think he is more on buying what you really need, not want. Possibly it's a bit of both. Either way you save money.
@@sqd8r underbiking is using less bike than is needed for a specific task like using a hardtail with 100m front sus for downhill or using a gravel bike to ride blue mtb trails
This is exactly why I purchased a Roscoe 9 after not having a hardtail for like 5 years. Now I am back to choosing the best lines and it has made me a better rider again.
Word! Just get out and ride! For those regular guys like most of us are that have regular jobs and regular responsibilities like families biking has to fit in and not be a potential problem that could affect the main things…family life, job life, and other responsibilities. Good stuff. Keep ‘em coming!
I owned a bike shop in Colorado about 30 years ago and I love this video! I fell into the mindset of keeping pace with the latest and greatest. You are so spot on with your words regarding cycling. It should be for personal enjoyment not “showing off” unless that’s your thing or are competitive. Unfortunately I started to resent cycling “snobs” so I stopped cycling for a while. Silly I know but I recently bought an e-trike and love it. Your analysis reaffirmed my thoughts on just get out and enjoy getting out! Riding around, taking in the sights. Age does make a difference but i really enjoyed your video.
Once you've bought the "latest and greatest" it doesn't make sense to do it again, because what happened to the one that was just the "latest and greatest"? It's just as good as when you bought it,and you still have it.
This is First video I saw from you but it was interesting. But I only got half way through. I might come back to finish it. I had a similar start to biking. And honestly now that I have the fancy nice bike, I don't ride. Probably my favorite bike was a specialized hard tail. Stump jumper.
This video hits deep. I've been riding my Marlin 6 for almost 3 years and have loved it but things gotten dull and had me think about other bikes that I see people on, like full suspension. I recently had a great ride on my Marlin which surprised me how capable it was. Glad I didn't fall into a new bike purchase. Keep posting videos, great content which has me think and critique my riding style.
I’ve found going back to basics. I don’t have to compete If my friends are riding fast down the trail or doing the jumps, I don’t need too. I’m riding full ridged there riding full sus ebike. I’m Riding my own ride having fun 😎
I agree with you 100%. I love my hardtails. I personally believe most people over bike themselves. Especially where I live in Alabama. I see way too many people on these $5000 and up full suspension bikes and they don’t even need that much travel and suspension for the trails they ride on. I ride the trek Roscoe and it does everything I need it to do.
Dude, I love your channel because you have a much more down to Earth attitude to the sport which appeals much more to newer riders. Mountain biking is awesome and it was awesome when I started back in the 90s with 26" wheeled hard tails and rigid bikes. Like you said, I like to enjoy the scenery too. Mountain biking has kinda lost the adventure aspect in favor of "bike parks", gnar etc but when I started it was really about just finding out where this trail went. It was just a trail. No cool name, no bermed corners, just a trail. Anyways, keep Em coming.
You are the rare and very well spoken counterweight to all the marketing BS that is aimed at separating people from really enjoying this sport without spending too much money based on the fear of missing out. That same marketing creates a barrier between rider / ambitions and / experience. By introducing and keep pounding on that fear of missing out. That introduced insecurity is where they make money. Which the customer should absolve by overspending on overreaching tech developed for aspiring racers & semi Pro's.. MTB is not about competing a Red Bull record, it is about riding trails & enjoying Nature. Away from cars. Underbiking trails with rigid bikes or hard tails actually enhances the experience of the green & blue trails. And improves bike handling skills, trail reading, safety & overall a more complete & fulfilling enjoyment. Without having to worry about the next, very costly front- / rear- & dropper service. and the time that service will prevent you from being able to using that bike. And you probably do not need that tech anyway. Developing your MTB skills is far more challenging and rewarding than buying into expensive and fragile so-called solutions... That will be obsolete anyway within a guestimated three years... Likewise the necessary parts... Keep it simple! Max out the experience!
I just hung up my 90s steel hybrid. You prompted me to remember how much fun I had with that 40 lb beast on fire roads & impromptu stunt parks. Now I'll have to get it down & find some space for it on the floor.
I'm with you 100%. The most beautiful thing about bikes is that you don't need anything fancy to generate the same smile and feeling. I rode full suspension for years, then got sick of all the maintenance and setup BS myself, so I've been riding rigid for the last few keeping it pure and simple. I'm ready to try some of the newer full sus bikes now though. A lot has changed since I last rode them.
I can 100% relate. It’s not about the bike it’s the rider. Yes I used fast and furious quotes. Be happy with what you ride and ride it like you stole it but still paid for it 😂
I got a diamondback motown hard tail on sale for around $700 and I LOVE IT. While I don’t have any jump parks around me, it has handled every single technical trail like an absolute champ, and that’s what I enjoy riding the most. I started on a $300 XC bike that couldn’t handle that terrain quite as well, but still got the job done most of the time. Cheaper bikes is where it’s at if you ask me.
Nice. Love it. Im on a marlin 6 2nd gen right now. Before that i still rode the hell out of my gary fischer that i brought in 99 when i worked at Trek.
your message is spot on…we tend to get caught up in “the stuff” , and all it does is complicate “ the reality”…it’s not about the price…it’s about how the bike feels…some bikes feel cheap and lack quality that aren’t cheap at all… i bought a used walmart bike because of the size and design of the aluminum frame…yes, some of the components were of lesser quality, but still very functional until i upgraded them as desired…and it’s pretty safe to say that i’ve now invested as much as buying a less budget friendly brand, but it no longer feels like it is lacking in any way…and you might not even get that with buying a much more expensive brand…i don’t mountain bike yet, but would like to start…when i do, i’ll be riding a rigid frame with rim brakes and 1x gearing…i have a real appreciation for fine things, but keeping it simple has become my motto for most everything i do… good to see someone out there who gets it , and passes on this huge secret to a large audience! good on you brother!
Like all things, it's all about diminutive returns and bell curves. The sweet spot IMO is the middle grade, and when something breaks, replace it with higher end version if its in the budget at that time and if you feel like you still need/want to. Also, you right on the hardtail turning green into blue/black. Well said.
Thanks Matt for sharing this video with us. I ride 90’s mountain bikes with some upgrades done to them. I’m old school Cannondale, Trek, Proflex kinda guy. I don’t look down on people who are starting out biking I show them you don’t have to spend a ton of money to have fun on a bike. Keep up the great work and stay safe out there.
Proflex??? Whoa that's a blast from the past. I started rinding in the late 80s and haven't heard that name for a long time. Remember Slingshot bikes? Keep the rubber side down friend 👍
I appreciate your message man! My 7 year old son got me into mountain biking this year, and he and I have been having a blast. I've been riding an old mongoose racing bike I had lying around, and it has been totally fine to learn on. Now that I know I enjoy the sport I am researching purchasing an actual mountain bike. But, it's been really hard to make a decision with all the options and talk of needing this and that. This video has just reinforced my thoughts that I want a good hardtail, and I dont need anything too fancy.
Hey Matty, i’ve been riding Mountain Bikes since the beginning and I hate how expensive and complicated the bikes are now. I definitely love a fancy bike on say a Mountain Bike Holiday where I usually hire but every day riding at home I want something I can afford, and is more simple. I want to see more people riding not less so more affordable bikes is definitely the way to go 👍
Agree 100% The spot I ride I see people and all there bikes are 5 to 12K I have some mongoose fatties and a poligon D5 I upgraded and I have fun riding and can go anyplace with the lower end bikes.
I' still thinking of my Trek Roscoe 7 as a super nice bike. Brakes are upgraded but otherwise it's still stock. And I still haven't had the chance to ride it to its full potential. Some time ago I rode with a friend with a Full sus and it was no problem whatsoever for me to keep up when we were riding the local trails. Honestly, I wouldn't know what advantage I could get out of a full sus right now cause they have disadvantages as well.
I've been riding a jamis durango 2.0 ($250 frame) with roughly $5k in upgrades since 2005. I got t boned by a Honda civic in 2011 and that frame is still bombing trails. This is however the last year on that Frame sadly. I'll be upgrading the frame to a Titanium Lynskey hard tail. I just love the way a hard tail wips! Growing up on a early 90s Titan lite, I just can't go over to full suspension.
It gets even worse when you compare anything between $300 and $1200 Half the time the forks, gearset, shifters, and derailleurs are all the same stuff. Or some combination of the same spec gear. you can buy a $500 bike, slap some $300 forks, and have the same spec as a $1500 bike. its ridiculous
This is why I love your channel man! You're always humble and you made a great point with this one... Just go ride and have fun, don't get caught up in the bike hype. As some someone who has also came full circle, I'm back on a simple hardtail and loving it! Rock on Bro!
When i get my next paycheck august 30, i most likley will go to the store and buy a Merida Big Nine 400 green version, along with a helmet and bike carrier for the car. I used to have a merida like it back 15-18years ago, and havent had a bike in over 10years, i look forward to start riding around where i live and in the mountain, memorising about my childhood, finding a good state of mind in this ever worsening world
Good point. I however don’t recommend cheap bikes. I want quality. It’s an investment in myself. I still like to tinker and like the comfy ride of full suspension. Not necessary but it’s what I like. I don’t have a top spec bike but it’s decent. Then I’ll upgrade when I need to.
I dunno about you guys but my full suspension isn't any more work than a hardtail on the day I take it out to the trail. Hardtails are fun. So are full suspension. Can't lose with either. I have to say though full suspension will help clear larger and more dangerous features which then will allow you to do the same feature on your hardtail. Honestly variety and choice is the main culprit.. just have one bike.
My favorite bike ever is a specialized hot rock I bought for 25 bucks and threw a rigid fork and disc brake on it. 26 inch wheels, no suspension, old geometry. Rides like crap but it makes everything fun.
Woah! Don't go pro cycling That woud be turning what you love into work Speaking of expensive bikes, you seen how carbon fibre fails? It's there one second, then without warning there's nothing there
Cant go too budget though. A rigid fork is way better than a “cheap” fork that just ruins the ride on a hardtail. And the frame geo is really the difference-maker for any bike.
Great video! Subbed! I am working on a similar concept video about "Do you need a top of the line bike to be a competitive racer" or something like that. While my bike is not "budget" it is a 2017 full suspension and I can still throw down with people on brand new bikes. Like you said, 95% of riders are not even utilizing their bikes full potential. I started biking 12 years ago on a fully rigid GT Timberline! It got me to the trails, I had fun, and every root, rock, drop was a BIG obstacle. I really like your approach on just grabbing the bike and going! I went with a coil fork for this reason so I can set it up how I like it and then forget about it for a year! I really learned some editing/video creation techniques from your video so thanks for that! Good work.
Preach.... as i get older my mindset is more and more like yours. I get so much out of my hardtail and reach for it more than i reach for my full sus. Love your videos brutha
It depends. I love my flashy carbon bike. I'm 50, always wanted a great bike since I was a kid. Could only get one when I turned 50, and had enough income to afford one.
I like to build up cheap bikes if I just buy high end bike pre assembled it’s not fun to me cause I don’t get to mess with it or upgrade it’s already ready to ride I like to tinker
Most people don’t need a full squish. I prefer hard tails, even though I’m not a MTB’r. I run a shop and am the only mechanic in the county, most people don’t need a full squish, plus there is so much maintenance these bikes need, and they kill your power.
That rift zone is nice but like any other marin bike it snaps the upper tube aluminium and the guarantee doesn't answer being this a safety hazard,worst company ever I think 5 years guarantee for nothing 😮😮and yes well done Sir for all your videos and honesty
Never get too serious. I always found the MTB crowd and RDB crowd silly. Unless it’s the ultimate item on the tier list it’s crap. It’s wild that mindset has normalized. My favourite bike to ride is my cheap bike. Rigid steel fork and frame with 3x and rim brakes. I love that it’s basic and durable. Nothing goes wrong. It’s constructed like a 90’s MTB (skinny head tube, seat tube, BB and even nutted axles) but with modern geometry. I put swept bars on it and think it’s such a comfy and fun ride. I ride it as often as I can. It’s my do it all bike. Example of my gravel road bike with 105 group on it in comparison. I rode home from work and it started raining. The bike is then making all kinds of noise in the disc brake area the rest of the way home. My XC bike needs a new freehub. It seems like MTB’s always need a new freehub when I talk to others. Seems pretty common. The super tall cassettes create much more leverage over the hub. This is why sometimes basic and durable is better even though it’s lower performance. I’m in the 6/7/8 spd chain size camp. Thicker and stronger chain and teeth.
You’re disc brakes should only be making noise when they first get wet, if they are making noise the whole ride than its problem contaminated rotor, or pads, or both. Shimano disc brakes have been easier for me to maintain with far less thought than any rim brake bike I’ve ever had.
I have been looking to upgrade to a full suspension. But after watching this I think I dont need one. Haha I think full suspension is too much bike for my style of riding. Ill probably go hardtail
Can’t agree with this enough. We don’t have a big mountain bike community here but it would be great if there was a rigid trail group ride. I feel like I’m the only person that rides rigid.
im going to provide a different view point on bikes i ride first of all u have to decided what is going to be wear and tear and what is going to break from abuse and spend accordingly ive seen a walmart bike wheel fold in half at a pump track ive seen a chainstay pop the diffrence in price is the warrranty on the later all wheels break, if my carbons break, i get new ones for free including labor on a side thought, u fiddle and faf with everything when u get to where your going to ride? and the best advice, ride what u can ride and the best ride, is the one that makes you want to ride every day
I rent a top shelf bike every year when I go to the bike park. These bikes are like monster trucks compared to my regular hard tail bike I ride every day in the city.
Most of us don't ride like the pros in the videos. We ride simply to enjoy the trails, the scenery, the exercise, and a nice day.
..yes.. no matter less or more,.. just get out ,..and ride..
I find camping videos like that too. One guy por gal goes pout and makes enoiugh food for 3 nights, and they call it "survival". A mile is a Mile.
YES!
You do ride like type pros the XC pros that is.
What's even better is people buy full sus bikes and find out they don't like mtb at all.
It gives me a good shot at getting a used bike for a great deal.
I've been a bike mechanic for 26 years. You are absolutely correct. A functional bike is the best bike. I fix other people's bikes, but I ride steel frames with simple parts. No hydraulic stuff to bleed, no batteries to charge, they always work. Keep bikes simple. Excellent video.
Nothing wrong with a good set of V brakes so long as you can keep the rims straight, I also quite fancy downgrading some of my hydraulic brake bikes to mechanical disc. makes maintenance so much easier and practical.
@@garethhughes5745 Yeah, I've got at least 10+ bikes with Avid BB7 mechanical disc brakes. Makes swapping parts from frame to frame easy and fun too.
@@mikegilheany8828 thanks for the tip, i will look out for those brakes :))
Great philosophy!
I'm very happy with older bikes, but I appreciate not having to ride the cheapest bikes.
When I was young, I rode hand-me-down bikes which was okay at the time. But when I was able to spend a few hundred dollars on an intermediate level bike ... what a difference!
That being said, almost any bike can be a source of pleasure.
Yes. I agree with you absolutely. I ride what I call RAMbikes ... road-adapted mountain bikes. My favourite is my Diamondback Wildwood restomod with 100% Alivio components. The key is to keep it well-lubed and adjusted. KISS ... keep it sweet and simple.
Preach! Just ride and have fun, that's the entire point of mountain biking.
Until marketing enters to the chat...
Biking period ....just ride and enjoy life. :)
I gotta admit, the worst thing about most mtb channels is how the bikes they test are top spec and incredibly expensive. It's hard to relate when the frame of the bike being reviewed is already more expensive than my entire e-bike. It's great to find a relatable channel for a change, keep up the great work 👍
Many channels are simply extensions of bike industry advertising departments...I steer clear of any channel that makes "Dream Build" videos or hilights a particular bike, including videos that show latest tech or "must have" gadgets.
Then they say "budget bike" and it's like a thousand dollars. That's not budget at all.
@@ffwast I think that's because "budget bike" is industry marketing bs for 'cheap'.
And for bikes, cheap means cheap componentry.
For i think most folks have a budget, thus calling a certain range of bikes 'budget bikes' is illogical, thus I suspect marketing bs.
I love this philosophy. It can be applied to most things in life. Most often, simple is better, assuming a reasonable level of quality. Simple things break less. When they do break, they’re easier to fix. They tend to last longer. Simple things force you to develop your skills, rather than relying on the tech. Often, you are forced to be more creative. Typically, they are cheaper as well. Though I have been known to spend more to get something simple, but high quality. Good for you! Thanks for sharing this message.
You are right
I have a tourney mech and it's 16 years old it's still working so what's the need of upgrading it even to an Altus what's point?a marginal improvent in shifting I'm an expert in shifting to lower gears because of tourney's shitty😂downshifting
When I rode my friend's xt mech I saw no difference
Wow! You make a great point - thank you!
100% agree. i've been riding the same 26" hard tail since 1999. still a lot of fun. when i first started MTB in 1997 I used to see this guy on a road bike bombin down the trails. he was better and faster than me. shows it's the rider not the gear.
Put disc brakes and a little beefier tires on it and it's just a modern gravel bike
I wouldn't even call it a gravel bike I have a 2007 Gary Fisher advance and I've hit black tech, double black jumps and everything in-between
finally some one who ride to have fun and don't ride to show bike :) respect!
Matty is the type of dude that should spin up some mtb clinics. Get people involved, keep it basic, and has the best demeanor for helping others start or continue journey in bikes.
100%
I have two bikes. I have a Roscoe 29er and a FS carbon Canyon. My Canyon is a cross country, so not tons of travel. But, its plenty for me. I’m 61, and don’t do anything too crazy. I just have fun and try to stay healthy!
Keep it up. I just turned 50 and I am struggling with the aging process.
My second bike is a steel single speed. I use it for intown riding and paved bike paths. It's probably got about the same mileage as my full suspension.
I love your attitude thank you... we jump into every new hobby as a family so that means we have to buy everything 3 times so finding a budget option is always the goals
Thanks for helping us "regular bike" people feel justified in our choice (or need) not to go into debt to have fun.
This is 100% the best way to look at all things in life but especially an expensive hobby like this. When I was a kid the guy that got the biggest props at the jumps was the one that was doing the same tricks on the beater bike that they borrowed from a buddy. I have a beater hard tail that I’ve been riding for years that I ONLY upgrade a part if it breaks beyond repair and so far I’ve only spent maybe $100 on it in the last 10 years lol.
I am 76 and the last time I rode a bike was 15 years ago. I recently got a bike and started riding again. I am starting slowly and relearning slow motion moves. Now, I enjoy the many hike & bike paths around the city. Soon, I will be out in the woods shredding...kind of!
I don't even ride mountainbikes, I live in the flat Netherlands, I commute to work.
I really enjoyed the video though, you're enjoyable to listen too. Stayed for the personality and energy, very comfortable. Keep it up! Greetings from the Netherlands!
This is why I subbed a long time ago man. Your humility, promotion of simplicity and having fun above all else is inspiring.
I bought a Trek Marlin 5 Gen 3 and it’s hands down the best bike that I have ever ridden. I’m just getting into the sport and having a blast. I’ll just upgrade parts as I get better. Took it to bentonville and was keeping up on blues to people that had bikes 3 times the cost of mine. It’s not the bike, it’s the rider.
I have to agree with you a bike that works is fine to just ride and enjoy the outdoors you really don't need an expensive bike to have fun.
Preach.💯🍻 I love my Roscoe. Hardtails are fun. And it’s forcing me to really learn to pick the right lines.
Matty the truth has set you free! Don’t let people hate
You’re the most real mountain biker on UA-cam. Keep it up!
I don't talk down cheap bikes but I'm very vocal about manufacturers that will sell you something labeled as a "Mountain bike" that will fall apart after a year of riding green trails. Happily they're getting scarce 😅
Honestly that's completely changed in the last few years. The newer Schwinns, Mongoose, and Ozark Trail models are all genuine mountain bikes that will last will last completely fine with normal care, and a few choice parts upgrades here and there.
And, that's an awesome thing. Better bikes at better prices is good for all.
I share your philosophy. Great observations. Another point is security. Almost no one will want to steal my bike. Could it happen? Yes, but it’s not worth the time or money to take it. Thanks for sharing!
Exactly! Keep it functional and fun. It's so funny to hear you say these things because I have found myself on the same track. I'm desperately in search of a 90's Specialized Stumpjumper. Such an awesome ride. Cheers from Montreal QC😊
The cheap bike niche, we’ve all started somewhere with mountain bikes. I’ve recently sold all my bikes, now down to just one. Simple now, just go ride that’s the only choice now.
Lol.. Im 54... had 4 bikes... down to 3... by the end of the year, it will 2... 😂... and one day one.. lol
I'm not a roadie, but I'm learning my fellow mountain bikers and cyclists as a whole have a gear obsession problem. I ride dirtbikes mainly, but got a $1500 dollar FS bike I'm bombing down black diamond trails like nobodies business. People need to learn and accept its the rider not the bike. Yeah, bike shaped objects are freakin garbage, but any entry level $500 hardtail can get the work done. I can't ever see me exceeding the capabilities of what my bike is intended for, and as its a trail bike, its good at a lot of different stuff.
It is it's disgusting. My bike is better than yours bullshit.
I ride a FS bike and I rarely mess with the suspension….like the channel….i also enjoy a good hard tail
I went to full suspension due to comfort as I got older and it was way better on my over 50 joints. Rode HT for about 48yrs. Now I have more smiles after my rides:) love simple nice bikes since i was a kid.
Indeed. I ran XC and raced, dirt jumped, and rode vert BMX. I'm a mess from injuries and over 50, but still love two wheels on dirt. I can afford one bike at a time. My Ripmo AF may never get pushed to the limit, but it always brings the smiles and occasionally saves my bacon when an old injury says hello at the worst time. I'll never judge a rider based on their bike, just like I don't want to be judged for not riding my bike like JKW.
I bought a used hardtail XC race-bike because it was lightweight and the right size for me. I could have bought a full suspension, but I don't need that, and certainly not the added weight. I also looked at gravel bikes, but.... meh. I like to enjoy fairly easy trails with gentler hills, and I certainly don't jump. That XC bike fills the bill perfectly. Just a couple of tweaks here and there to dial in the fit and my riding position, and I now have a jack-of-all-trades bike that goes anywhere I point it.
I like working on bikes more than actually riding them, so often times I'll just grab whatever because they "ideal bike for the ride" is in pieces.
My brother !!!!!!!
You have a special mindset. I am always afraid I will break something. Heck, I often do. Then again even the professionals mess things up sometimes.
@MTBMOR I've been doing pretty much all my own maintenance since I started racing BMX almost 30 years ago. Then I got into DH/Dual Slalom, then XC after a bad wreck.
So, my mechanical skills have grown alongside the industry. There's still some stuff I don't tinker with either because of the complexity, or I just don't want to.
I can't rebuild *any* shock or fork, for instance. While I can build wheels, it frustrates me (though I true my own wheels).
I don't swap tubeless tires very often because it's a mess and I don't have an air compressor in my apartment, loose pack hubs with ball bearings are a pain in the butt.
Once you've collected all the specialty tools over time it makes everything a lot easier, like having a cup press rather than the "wood block and hammer method" as one example.
And now everyone is in the absolute golden age of maintenance with tons of UA-cam videos for almost every year of every component, etc.
I basically learned from age 11 on by reverse engineering. They're pretty simple machines, though, at the end of the day.
Yes, I love this! Im a bike mechanic and I champion the commuter, the person who rides for fun. I just got a Trek FX1 the most basic bike model and I enjoy it more for its simplicity.
Lol is OK not been a shredder
U just simply don't ride gnar stuff
There's no way u can fly with that in wa state
A bike like a Ozark or such will fall apart immediately
🎉
Some of us don't care about shredding, or going up and down mountains. Some of us have no desire to come to the state of Washington. But I'm sure you have never had a bike break or a part fail because you get the best bikes and parts that money can buy. Unfortunately, you probably don't see the forest for the trees.
Good points! I have something to add however. Truth be told…I’m old…I have a few extra bucks, I like the feel of a “nice” bike, I have scoliosis, I want a comfortable bike with some shock absorbency. I like mtn and gravel bikes, used to race road bikes, but I am now in love with comfort. Having a little more expensive bike gives me pleasure when I ride. It’s comfortable and gear changing is smooth. I have an xcaliber and an SL6 trek checkpoint…
Both bikes make me happy. I once fell on a rigid bike and 3 shoulder surgeries later …this was when I was just learning and I’m sure it traumatized me. LOL!
I’m not knocking the rigid bikes. To each’s own….more power to you if you enjoy these bikes. I get it. They’re just not for me. I like having a little suspension and cushy tires. These two bikes may be a little more than I need but they enhance my experience. Bottom line I suppose is…we all enjoy our bikes and they make us happy and support our well being!
Love your honesty! I watched KevCentral and bought a Mongoose Grit because of him. You can buy a cheap bike and then upgrade as you go. Love your perspective! And I'm from Rogers AR! My step dad was from Pine Bluff. My dad was from Dardanelle Take care.
You don’t need the best thing to excel at a high level… 🎯💯
You played for the Red Sox!? Nice!
Great perspective! Couldn’t agree more!
I love my surly crosscheck and my salsa timberjack, thats all I need
You are basically talking about the joy of “underbiking”. I’m with you. I have access to pretty nice mountain bikes, but I’ve been enjoying the simplest ones most lately
Underspending. If you have ever ridden a bike you would understand, that ride over is the only option.
Underbiking, I think is more riding below your ability. I think he is more on buying what you really need, not want. Possibly it's a bit of both. Either way you save money.
@@sqd8r underbiking is using less bike than is needed for a specific task like using a hardtail with 100m front sus for downhill or using a gravel bike to ride blue mtb trails
@@sqd8r And you can STILL have fun....... :) I LOVE the hardtails. But, I don't go on wild trails..... mostly paved and light off road. Enjoy !
This is exactly why I purchased a Roscoe 9 after not having a hardtail for like 5 years. Now I am back to choosing the best lines and it has made me a better rider again.
Roscoe 9 is legendary. I got an 8 and love it.
Word! Just get out and ride! For those regular guys like most of us are that have regular jobs and regular responsibilities like families biking has to fit in and not be a potential problem that could affect the main things…family life, job life, and other responsibilities. Good stuff. Keep ‘em coming!
I owned a bike shop in Colorado about 30 years ago and I love this video! I fell into the mindset of keeping pace with the latest and greatest. You are so spot on with your words regarding cycling. It should be for personal enjoyment not “showing off” unless that’s your thing or are competitive. Unfortunately I started to resent cycling “snobs” so I stopped cycling for a while. Silly I know but I recently bought an e-trike and love it. Your analysis reaffirmed my thoughts on just get out and enjoy getting out! Riding around, taking in the sights. Age does make a difference but i really enjoyed your video.
Once you've bought the "latest and greatest" it doesn't make sense to do it again, because what happened to the one that was just the "latest and greatest"? It's just as good as when you bought it,and you still have it.
This is First video I saw from you but it was interesting. But I only got half way through. I might come back to finish it. I had a similar start to biking. And honestly now that I have the fancy nice bike, I don't ride. Probably my favorite bike was a specialized hard tail. Stump jumper.
This video hits deep. I've been riding my Marlin 6 for almost 3 years and have loved it but things gotten dull and had me think about other bikes that I see people on, like full suspension. I recently had a great ride on my Marlin which surprised me how capable it was. Glad I didn't fall into a new bike purchase. Keep posting videos, great content which has me think and critique my riding style.
I’ve found going back to basics. I don’t have to compete If my friends are riding fast down the trail or doing the jumps, I don’t need too. I’m riding full ridged there riding full sus ebike. I’m Riding my own ride having fun 😎
Got a 20 year old Gary fisher, often think
of new tech but the cost and complexity is out of hand.
I agree with you 100%. I love my hardtails. I personally believe most people over bike themselves. Especially where I live in Alabama. I see way too many people on these $5000 and up full suspension bikes and they don’t even need that much travel and suspension for the trails they ride on. I ride the trek Roscoe and it does everything I need it to do.
Need is subjective
I hate hardtails and rigid bikes
Dude, I love your channel because you have a much more down to Earth attitude to the sport which appeals much more to newer riders.
Mountain biking is awesome and it was awesome when I started back in the 90s with 26" wheeled hard tails and rigid bikes.
Like you said, I like to enjoy the scenery too. Mountain biking has kinda lost the adventure aspect in favor of "bike parks", gnar etc but when I started it was really about just finding out where this trail went. It was just a trail. No cool name, no bermed corners, just a trail.
Anyways, keep Em coming.
You are the rare and very well spoken counterweight to all the marketing BS that is aimed at separating people from really enjoying this sport without spending too much money based on the fear of missing out.
That same marketing creates a barrier between rider / ambitions and / experience.
By introducing and keep pounding on that fear of missing out.
That introduced insecurity is where they make money.
Which the customer should absolve by overspending on overreaching tech developed for aspiring racers & semi Pro's..
MTB is not about competing a Red Bull record,
it is about riding trails & enjoying Nature.
Away from cars.
Underbiking trails with rigid bikes or hard tails actually enhances the experience of the green & blue trails.
And improves bike handling skills, trail reading, safety & overall a more complete & fulfilling enjoyment.
Without having to worry about the next, very costly front- / rear- & dropper service.
and the time that service will prevent you from being able to using that bike.
And you probably do not need that tech anyway.
Developing your MTB skills is far more challenging and rewarding
than buying into expensive and fragile so-called solutions...
That will be obsolete anyway within a guestimated three years...
Likewise the necessary parts...
Keep it simple!
Max out the experience!
I just hung up my 90s steel hybrid. You prompted me to remember how much fun I had with that 40 lb beast on fire roads & impromptu stunt parks. Now I'll have to get it down & find some space for it on the floor.
As someone that is getting back into bikes for mental and physical fitness, I find this channel totally relatable.
Thank you.
I'm with you 100%. The most beautiful thing about bikes is that you don't need anything fancy to generate the same smile and feeling. I rode full suspension for years, then got sick of all the maintenance and setup BS myself, so I've been riding rigid for the last few keeping it pure and simple. I'm ready to try some of the newer full sus bikes now though. A lot has changed since I last rode them.
I can 100% relate. It’s not about the bike it’s the rider. Yes I used fast and furious quotes. Be happy with what you ride and ride it like you stole it but still paid for it 😂
I got a 500$ walmart full suspension and have loved it to death so far. Nothing has broken either but i am getting a better seat for it.
Nice! Which one did you get?
@@MattyActive mongoose ledge x2, I haven't put a ton of time into it or rode anything crazy but I do plan on taking it on to the mountains soonish.
I got a diamondback motown hard tail on sale for around $700 and I LOVE IT. While I don’t have any jump parks around me, it has handled every single technical trail like an absolute champ, and that’s what I enjoy riding the most. I started on a $300 XC bike that couldn’t handle that terrain quite as well, but still got the job done most of the time. Cheaper bikes is where it’s at if you ask me.
Nice. Love it. Im on a marlin 6 2nd gen right now. Before that i still rode the hell out of my gary fischer that i brought in 99 when i worked at Trek.
Yes sir. 90% of the time , my SPECIALIZED FUSE , has the fork ; locked.
your message is spot on…we tend to get caught up in “the stuff” , and all it does is complicate “ the reality”…it’s not about the price…it’s about how the bike feels…some bikes feel cheap and lack quality that aren’t cheap at all…
i bought a used walmart bike because of the size and design of the aluminum frame…yes, some of the components were of lesser quality, but still very functional until i upgraded them as
desired…and it’s pretty safe to say that i’ve now invested as much as buying a less budget friendly brand, but it no longer feels like it is lacking in any way…and you might not even get that with buying a much more expensive brand…i don’t mountain bike yet, but would like to start…when i do, i’ll be riding a rigid frame with rim brakes and 1x gearing…i have a real appreciation for fine things, but keeping it simple has become my motto for most everything i do…
good to see someone out there who gets it , and passes on this huge secret to a large audience!
good on you brother!
Like all things, it's all about diminutive returns and bell curves. The sweet spot IMO is the middle grade, and when something breaks, replace it with higher end version if its in the budget at that time and if you feel like you still need/want to.
Also, you right on the hardtail turning green into blue/black. Well said.
Thanks Matt for sharing this video with us. I ride 90’s mountain bikes with some upgrades done to them. I’m old school Cannondale, Trek, Proflex kinda guy. I don’t look down on people who are starting out biking I show them you don’t have to spend a ton of money to have fun on a bike. Keep up the great work and stay safe out there.
Proflex??? Whoa that's a blast from the past. I started rinding in the late 80s and haven't heard that name for a long time. Remember Slingshot bikes?
Keep the rubber side down friend 👍
@@smokeycanuck8058 thanks you do the same.
This is a great perspective. ❤
I appreciate your message man!
My 7 year old son got me into mountain biking this year, and he and I have been having a blast. I've been riding an old mongoose racing bike I had lying around, and it has been totally fine to learn on.
Now that I know I enjoy the sport I am researching purchasing an actual mountain bike. But, it's been really hard to make a decision with all the options and talk of needing this and that. This video has just reinforced my thoughts that I want a good hardtail, and I dont need anything too fancy.
I can relate bro, it's called aging in biking .😂We are going through a process called realization.
Hey Matty, i’ve been riding Mountain Bikes since the beginning and I hate how expensive and complicated the bikes are now. I definitely love a fancy bike on say a Mountain Bike Holiday where I usually hire but every day riding at home I want something I can afford, and is more simple. I want to see more people riding not less so more affordable bikes is definitely the way to go 👍
Agree 100% The spot I ride I see people and all there bikes are 5 to 12K I have some mongoose fatties and a poligon D5 I upgraded and I have fun riding and can go anyplace with the lower end bikes.
I' still thinking of my Trek Roscoe 7 as a super nice bike. Brakes are upgraded but otherwise it's still stock. And I still haven't had the chance to ride it to its full potential. Some time ago I rode with a friend with a Full sus and it was no problem whatsoever for me to keep up when we were riding the local trails. Honestly, I wouldn't know what advantage I could get out of a full sus right now cause they have disadvantages as well.
I've been riding a jamis durango 2.0 ($250 frame) with roughly $5k in upgrades since 2005. I got t boned by a Honda civic in 2011 and that frame is still bombing trails. This is however the last year on that Frame sadly. I'll be upgrading the frame to a Titanium Lynskey hard tail. I just love the way a hard tail wips! Growing up on a early 90s Titan lite, I just can't go over to full suspension.
It gets even worse when you compare anything between $300 and $1200
Half the time the forks, gearset, shifters, and derailleurs are all the same stuff. Or some combination of the same spec gear.
you can buy a $500 bike, slap some $300 forks, and have the same spec as a $1500 bike. its ridiculous
Simply true mountain biking wisdom.❤
Hey I've got you all beat ! I'm on a 95 trek 930 single track.. WHAT! That thing has taken a pounding! Just got back from Whiteface and it was great.
This is why I love your channel man! You're always humble and you made a great point with this one... Just go ride and have fun, don't get caught up in the bike hype. As some someone who has also came full circle, I'm back on a simple hardtail and loving it! Rock on Bro!
When i get my next paycheck august 30, i most likley will go to the store and buy a Merida Big Nine 400 green version, along with a helmet and bike carrier for the car. I used to have a merida like it back 15-18years ago, and havent had a bike in over 10years, i look forward to start riding around where i live and in the mountain, memorising about my childhood, finding a good state of mind in this ever worsening world
Good point. I however don’t recommend cheap bikes. I want quality. It’s an investment in myself. I still like to tinker and like the comfy ride of full suspension. Not necessary but it’s what I like. I don’t have a top spec bike but it’s decent. Then I’ll upgrade when I need to.
I dunno about you guys but my full suspension isn't any more work than a hardtail on the day I take it out to the trail. Hardtails are fun. So are full suspension. Can't lose with either. I have to say though full suspension will help clear larger and more dangerous features which then will allow you to do the same feature on your hardtail. Honestly variety and choice is the main culprit.. just have one bike.
My favorite bike ever is a specialized hot rock I bought for 25 bucks and threw a rigid fork and disc brake on it. 26 inch wheels, no suspension, old geometry. Rides like crap but it makes everything fun.
Woah! Don't go pro cycling
That woud be turning what you love into work
Speaking of expensive bikes, you seen how carbon fibre fails? It's there one second, then without warning there's nothing there
I only own and ride single speeds. Rebel against the current over-priced and over-complicated bike industry products.
Cant go too budget though. A rigid fork is way better than a “cheap” fork that just ruins the ride on a hardtail. And the frame geo is really the difference-maker for any bike.
Great video! Subbed! I am working on a similar concept video about "Do you need a top of the line bike to be a competitive racer" or something like that. While my bike is not "budget" it is a 2017 full suspension and I can still throw down with people on brand new bikes. Like you said, 95% of riders are not even utilizing their bikes full potential. I started biking 12 years ago on a fully rigid GT Timberline! It got me to the trails, I had fun, and every root, rock, drop was a BIG obstacle.
I really like your approach on just grabbing the bike and going! I went with a coil fork for this reason so I can set it up how I like it and then forget about it for a year!
I really learned some editing/video creation techniques from your video so thanks for that! Good work.
Preach.... as i get older my mindset is more and more like yours. I get so much out of my hardtail and reach for it more than i reach for my full sus. Love your videos brutha
It depends. I love my flashy carbon bike. I'm 50, always wanted a great bike since I was a kid. Could only get one when I turned 50, and had enough income to afford one.
I like to build up cheap bikes if I just buy high end bike pre assembled it’s not fun to me cause I don’t get to mess with it or upgrade it’s already ready to ride I like to tinker
Most people don’t need a full squish. I prefer hard tails, even though I’m not a MTB’r. I run a shop and am the only mechanic in the county, most people don’t need a full squish, plus there is so much maintenance these bikes need, and they kill your power.
That rift zone is nice but like any other marin bike it snaps the upper tube aluminium and the guarantee doesn't answer being this a safety hazard,worst company ever I think 5 years guarantee for nothing 😮😮and yes well done Sir for all your videos and honesty
Thank you for this.
Like you, I just want to enjoy riding.There is an elitist culture in mountain biking groups around my community.
Never get too serious. I always found the MTB crowd and RDB crowd silly. Unless it’s the ultimate item on the tier list it’s crap. It’s wild that mindset has normalized.
My favourite bike to ride is my cheap bike. Rigid steel fork and frame with 3x and rim brakes. I love that it’s basic and durable. Nothing goes wrong. It’s constructed like a 90’s MTB (skinny head tube, seat tube, BB and even nutted axles) but with modern geometry. I put swept bars on it and think it’s such a comfy and fun ride. I ride it as often as I can. It’s my do it all bike.
Example of my gravel road bike with 105 group on it in comparison. I rode home from work and it started raining. The bike is then making all kinds of noise in the disc brake area the rest of the way home.
My XC bike needs a new freehub. It seems like MTB’s always need a new freehub when I talk to others. Seems pretty common. The super tall cassettes create much more leverage over the hub.
This is why sometimes basic and durable is better even though it’s lower performance. I’m in the 6/7/8 spd chain size camp. Thicker and stronger chain and teeth.
You’re disc brakes should only be making noise when they first get wet, if they are making noise the whole ride than its problem contaminated rotor, or pads, or both. Shimano disc brakes have been easier for me to maintain with far less thought than any rim brake bike I’ve ever had.
You have a great attitude on the simple fun of riding. I ride a fully rigid hardtail but embarrassed to say I spent too much.
I have been looking to upgrade to a full suspension. But after watching this I think I dont need one. Haha I think full suspension is too much bike for my style of riding. Ill probably go hardtail
I'm with you about riding rigid. Thanks for the message!
Can’t agree with this enough. We don’t have a big mountain bike community here but it would be great if there was a rigid trail group ride. I feel like I’m the only person that rides rigid.
I don’t think I can ever get away from hard tails, fs are sweet. But like a lot of us, nature is beautiful and just riding itself is rad.
im going to provide a different view point on bikes i ride
first of all u have to decided what is going to be wear and tear
and what is going to break from abuse
and spend accordingly
ive seen a walmart bike wheel fold in half at a pump track
ive seen a chainstay pop
the diffrence in price is the warrranty on the later
all wheels break, if my carbons break, i get new ones for free including labor
on a side thought, u fiddle and faf with everything when u get to where your going to ride?
and the best advice, ride what u can ride
and the best ride, is the one that makes you want to ride every day
I feel ya man! I still hop on my Trek Marlin 5.
The only thing about budget bikes is that they are slightly heavier and that's it. Who cares about the sexy names on the down tubes....
i bought a used Roscoe 8 based on your channel. My friend is still saving for the Yeti bike and missed out on at least 20 rides.
I rent a top shelf bike every year when I go to the bike park. These bikes are like monster trucks compared to my regular hard tail bike I ride every day in the city.
Your video encouraged me to buy a “ regular bike “
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
You ain't slick!! you don't wanna beat up your bikes....lol!!!
Have fun. Such a great philosophy for life.
Awesome video Matty.
I see ppl on $10k bikes on green trails ( flat flat green trails I’m in Florida ) overbiking is a disease lol
Try that kent 29in. By the way that ozark trail gravel is sick