Repertoire: The BEST Versions of Prokofiev--Romeo and Juliet

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  • Опубліковано 15 сер 2020
  • You can get the complete ballet, the suites, or some customized arrangement; but however you do it, Romeo and Juliet contains some of the best music that Prokofiev ever wrote, and here are the finest recordings.
    Musical Samples courtesy of Supraphon Records.

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  • @melodymaker135
    @melodymaker135 Місяць тому +2

    The heavy slow dissonant intro to the Knights’ Dance in the suite version is the bomb

  • @melodymaker135
    @melodymaker135 Місяць тому

    Our tastes are again aligned Dave: this is one of the greatest things Prokofiev ever wrote

  • @jockmoron
    @jockmoron Рік тому +3

    I had not heard of Ancerl before watching this video. I checked him up on Wiki (where else). Born to a prosperous Jewish family, he became a survivor of Auschwitz, when his wife and son died in the gas chamber. Then in 1968 he fled to Canada after Russia's invasion of his homeland. His life after the war was basically a miracle. That he would then demonstrate the tragicality (I know this isn't actually an English noun, but it should be) of Prokofiev's score and Shakespear's writing better than any other conductor perhaps is not then surprising. PS With my wife, I am attending the NZ Ballet's production of this work being staged in my nearby city of Wellington on Saturday 6th May 2023. I have not seen it or even heard the music before (other than Dance of the Knights) so I think we're in for a real treat.

  • @AlfFieldArt
    @AlfFieldArt 2 роки тому +5

    Romeo and Juliet is an astounding work. It helps to have a description of each scene, so you can follow the path of the story too - well it helps me anyway.

  • @gyulahunyor8267
    @gyulahunyor8267 3 роки тому +2

    Hi David, thanks for these recommendations, again you are right on the spot with most of them, especially with the Maazel&Ozawa for the complete ballet and Chung&Tilson Thomas for the excerpts. I'd add another one I like, the Dutoit on Decca which somehow went under the radar soon after it appeared though I always felt it was played with great rhythmic acuity, sweeping romantic lines by the superb Montreal orchestra captured in impeccably translucent sound by the superb Decca team.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому +2

      i agree about Dutoit--one of his finer efforts and you're right--for some reason it has flown under the radar (including mine!). Thanks for mentioning it.

  • @stephenkeen2404
    @stephenkeen2404 3 роки тому +1

    Just listened to the Ancerl. I cannot thank you enough for this recommendation.

  • @Mogpops2
    @Mogpops2 3 роки тому +6

    There's been remasterings of the Rozhdestvensky recording and it sounds much better now. Definitely my favourite recording of this ballet. So much character and I love the faster tempo in Juliets death scene, it's definitely a very authentically Russian recording.

  • @neilford99
    @neilford99 2 роки тому

    Maazel was my first :-) Ancerl is definitely "wow". I was struggling to put on finger on why but you nailed it.

  • @EthanMatthes
    @EthanMatthes 3 роки тому

    Dave, I continue to enjoy this series very much. Thank you for surveying the R&J offerings. I just ordered the Anceral/Czech from ArkivMusic based on your recommendation. You played my favorite part of the ballet in the Anceral clip. I know you're not a Gergiev fan, but I think his Kirov version (on Philips?) is pretty decent too.

  • @BrainiacFingers
    @BrainiacFingers 3 роки тому +3

    Out of all the versions I've heard, Muti and the Philadelphia's recording is still my absolute favourite. The brass section is spectacular. I also got used to hearing the movements played in that particular order, and I've yet to find another version that follows the same ordering.

  • @denbigh51
    @denbigh51 3 роки тому +1

    Just hear the introduction and you’re won over to Maazel/Cleveland/Decca ! It was revelation to me at the time. I notice the Cleveland orchestra now have their own label - Look forward to a review in due course.

  • @pauloqueiroz9611
    @pauloqueiroz9611 Рік тому

    The Ančerl excerpt is really great! Will check the whole CD

  • @lawrencechalmers5432
    @lawrencechalmers5432 3 роки тому +6

    My imprint version of the suites was Ancerl/Czech still a favorite. Next Mitropulos.

  • @anwla
    @anwla 2 роки тому

    Agree with you from the excerpt there by Ancerl. I got into this piece back in the early 2000s, when I picked up a live recording of Suite no. 2 by Mravinsky on Philips with the Leningrad. It was coupled with the Nutcracker suite. I had never heard anything like that. I adored that music deeply and I still do; I think Romeo & Julie is Prokofiev’s best work and probably the greatest work in the 20th century. I then went on and got the full ballet with a recording by Kitajenko with The Danish National Radio Symphony Orchestra, but I agree with you - suites are the way to go!

  • @HassoBenSoba
    @HassoBenSoba 2 роки тому +1

    I'd like to put in a plug for Edo deWaart's Suite 1 & 2 with the Rotterdam Phil on Phillips; exquisite playing, with lightness, elegance, clarity, depth, richness and drama (Phillips had recently figured out how to deliver a solid BASS range in their recordings). Available in a two-disc set of Profofiev "Favorite Suites". But I must find the Ancerl, since I've always been a big fan of his recordings from the '60's, and the excerpt you played sounds like his typically excellent work. LR

  • @pbarach1
    @pbarach1 3 роки тому +3

    For the complete ballet, I've always liked Maazel; for the suites, Skrowaczewski/Minnesota is a fantastic recording that was NOT made in that dead Northrup Auditorium. And of course Ancerl, as you mentioned. Now I'll have to check out Chung!

  • @james.t.herman
    @james.t.herman 3 роки тому +1

    Yes! Ozawa’s is one of my favorite albums of any orchestral music. Also something I collected early on in my experience of classical music. So glad to hear a critic’s endorsement of it, it was a formative part of my taste in music. I’ll definitely check out Ancerl, as well. What do you think of Ozawa’s Respighi Roman trilogy with Boston? I really like it, and you never hear about it. It’s got almost a kind of swing rhythm to it, not just the pounding march rhythm that usually characterizes conductors’ approaches.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому +1

      Excellent Respighi.

    • @james.t.herman
      @james.t.herman 3 роки тому +1

      The Boston Symphony under Ozawa record of the complete ballet contains some of the finest trumpet playing (cornet playing, actually) that Charles Schlueter, the principal player, ever did. I studied for two years at the U of Wisconsin at Madison, and the professor there once played the record when Schlueter visited, asked him all about it, remarked on the highlights of his performance. It’s a masterclass in trumpet playing all by itself. And the whole orchestra is on, right along with him. They sound magnificent on that record. Magical.

  • @pauloqueiroz9611
    @pauloqueiroz9611 Рік тому

    Boy, do I agree with you! Agree with the Maazel and the Ozawa! My favorites! Also Suites 1 & 2 with Muti (Yay!) and Philadelphia! Energetic, glittering sound! Wonderful performance. Will check out Paavo Järvi and Tilson Thomas

  • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
    @rsmickeymooproductions4877 3 роки тому +1

    I must say that the Ancerl adds a edgy grip to the music like no other. Fabulous performance i did enjoy it. I listened to a older remaster of the work and it was really poor, so the Gold treatment had definitely improved the sound. Saying that, i did get numerous flaws in the sonics particularly at the climaxes and when the bass drops. I noticed someone recommended the Dutoit/Montreal - (excerpts) and that ticks all the boxes for me. A combination of performance and sound quality. Many thanks

  • @barrygray8903
    @barrygray8903 3 роки тому

    Great talk, as usual. I have and enjoy the Maazel/Cleveland complete recording, stunning playing and excellent sound. Previn, as you say, is somewhat soft-edged by comparison, but it has its moments. I want to hear Ozawa now. For the suites and/or excerpts my favorites are Muti, MTT, and the incredible Ancerl. After listening to Ancerl's performance for the first time I was emotionally drained and stood up from my seat saying "oh my God!" Until hearing this I never thought of this music as elemental and cathartic; his recording is like no other. Also we have a disc of excerpts by Yoel Levi and the Cleveland Orchestra , on Telarc. Well played, but a bit faceless; the same orchestra plays even better for Maazel. I'm curious about Mitropoulos and plan to seek it out.

  • @denishinds3777
    @denishinds3777 Рік тому +1

    That Car advert doesn't just sound conceptual, but Freudian too? - Prokofiev's R&J was much popularised in the UK in the 1970's by Andre Previn & the London Symphony Orchestra on their BBC TV Programmes 'Andre Previn's Music Night'. Also, the Dance of the Knights is the tune that Sunderland Football (Soccer) Club come out to at the start of Matches.

  • @MegaVicar
    @MegaVicar 3 роки тому +1

    Perfect! I’ve been listening to Prokofiev’s ballet music this week...but I’m most drawn to the score for Cinderella. Got a recommendation for the complete ballet? Ashkenazy? Or an upcoming video?

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому

      Ashkenazy is great and my "go to" pick; and it comes with a very fine The Seasons, but you may also want to consider Jurowski on CPO, while Previn's is better than his R&J.

    • @Nikolay76Gogol
      @Nikolay76Gogol 9 місяців тому

      ‘Cinderella’ is a masterpiece. Multiple layers of associations. These brooding melodies evoke the War when the music was composed.

  • @giveall9695
    @giveall9695 Рік тому

    I have the Ančerl cd of Supraphon Historical series with classical symphony :) Boy isn't that a lovely-spent hour for an evening?

  • @chrisjackson1266
    @chrisjackson1266 Рік тому

    That horn is absolutely incredible in that Ancerl sample at 16:49.
    The recording I have is the London Symphony under Previn on EMI. 1996. That one is the entire ballet.

  • @johnwright7749
    @johnwright7749 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks again for a stimulating review despite the TV ads digression! I’ll have to check out Ancerl because everything he did was first-class. In the meantime I’ll stick with Maazel and Ozawa. I don’t find the whole ballet too repetitious or a minute too long.

  • @joewebb1983
    @joewebb1983 3 роки тому

    Agree with the comment about Ashkenazy's excellent complete recording with the RPO I think. Can't beat Maazel IMHO, but that said, I cannot believe that I haven't heard the Ozawa... I will be investigating that!
    As for the suites, as you say, there are billions ha! Not familiar with the Ancerl so I will be listening to that shortly, as for the others, agree... MTT's is right up there for me.
    Regarding the drama and tragedy you talk about w.r.t the Ancerl recording, the four extracts that Stokowski recorded on RCA are worth a mention... Very very very very slow for Juliet's Death but the drama in that big tune, and the playing (at such a slow speed) is incredible. Worth it for the novelty alone!

    • @joewebb1983
      @joewebb1983 3 роки тому

      Oh yes! Ancerl! The hammer blows during Tybalt's Death and the intensity after that to the end of the scene... Superb!!!

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому

      Glad you heard it!

  • @adrianosbrandao
    @adrianosbrandao 3 роки тому +1

    Here in Brazil, Mozart’s “Eine Kleine Nachtmusik” and Vivaldi’s “Spring” became associated with soap, because of two very famous TV ads in the 80s. More recently, the scherzo from Ravel’s String Quartet became the luxury car ad music of choice. Go figure.

  • @nb2816
    @nb2816 3 роки тому

    I've never owned the Previn, but I've heard long stretches and have to agree with you. I have both Ashkenazy and Maazel, and like them both; maybe the Ashkenazy is a little warmer expressively. I have a soft spot and sentimental associations for any of Rozhdestvensky's Prokofiev recordings, sound and all, lol.
    On the subject of contemporary Russian composers, would you ever consider doing a video devoted to Kapustin?

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому

      Absolutely. He was great. I've just got to be able to play samples, because you've got to hear his music.

  • @jerelzoltick6900
    @jerelzoltick6900 2 роки тому

    I have lived with Mitropoulos and Maazel for years.. I will listen to Ozawa. And I just ordered the Ancerl.. Have you heartd Muti's version with Chicago?

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  2 роки тому

      www.classicstoday.com/review/mutis-prokofiev-rj-sequel-never-good/?search=1

  • @Nikolay76Gogol
    @Nikolay76Gogol 9 місяців тому

    I have several CD versions of Romeo and Juliet - Rozhdestvensky, Ghergiev, Abbado. But it happens that I prefer Ancerl, Supraphone original LP. You are right, expressiveness prevails!

  • @carlos2bass
    @carlos2bass 3 роки тому

    Hi David, I,m surprised you didn’t mentioned Rostropovich suites 1&2 with NSO on DG. Slava attended all premiere season performances of the ballet by sneaking in through the back door with his cello, as you know he was very close to Prokofiev.

  • @bluetortilla
    @bluetortilla Рік тому +1

    I have a Prokofiev (my fav Russian composer btw) 'Peter & The Wolf' narrated by an American, but the music is from Romeo & Juliet. So I'm not sure what that's all about. 'The Knight's Dance' refrain is played every time the wolf appears. Is it rare?
    Even people who are not normally classical music lovers seem ta enjoy Prokofiev's 'Romeo and Juliet.'

  • @johnburlinson6697
    @johnburlinson6697 3 роки тому

    I've noticed that if a piece of classical music is used successfully in a major motion picture, its chances of finding new life in commercials go up astronomically. An example is Shostakovich's Waltz No. 2 from "Suite for Variety Stage Orchestra", which was used to great effect in Stanley Kubrick's last film, "Eyes Wide Shut". Of course, Kubrick was a master at picking apposite music for his films, thus giving new life to composers from Richard Strauss to Franz Schubert.

  • @bertranddaldy9748
    @bertranddaldy9748 3 роки тому

    This video made me look at my version which I bought years ago. I seem to have acquired the suite conducted by Salonen. Should I be trading this one in?

  • @johns9624
    @johns9624 3 роки тому +2

    Yes! Ancerl and the Czech Phil, one of the first classical lps I bought in 1965 on Music for Pleasure costing about $1.25 and still by far my favourite. He picks all the best music, plays it brilliantly, and the recording is still excellent. Jarvi second, Gergiev on Phillips very Gergievish, indifferent, passable but no more.

  • @pierrevigna
    @pierrevigna 3 роки тому

    Hello Dave, you did not mention Mravinsky in a live concert on Philips, which for me is as thrilling as Ancerl. Any view on that performance ?

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому

      I don't need it.

    • @pierrevigna
      @pierrevigna 3 роки тому

      I do. And I love your channel and how you share your knowledge and points of view with us. Thank you for that. And please, Keep feeding us !

  • @nirgoldenberg5624
    @nirgoldenberg5624 3 роки тому

    Although I really love prokoffiev, my favorite musical adaptation of the play (other than of course west side story) it Tchaikovsky's. It's short, but it's intense and really beautiful at times. I especially love celibidace, who relishes and enjoys those slow passages, savoring every single note. In prokoffiev, well I like gergiev's version. Gotta have it Russian. And I really love the entrance of the knights at his version.

  • @kendavies9991
    @kendavies9991 3 роки тому

    Another example of the power of advertising. In the UK, we of a certain age associate the 2nd movement of Dvorak's New World symphony with bread.

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 3 роки тому

      Played by a colliery brass-band, and directed by someone called Ridley Scott. Whatever became of him?

  • @user-ov9ef1vi1w
    @user-ov9ef1vi1w 3 місяці тому

    When are you doing "The BEST" versions of the Tchaikovsky ballets?

  • @AlexMadorsky
    @AlexMadorsky 3 роки тому +1

    Maazel with the Cleveland Orchestra is an exciting, joyous performance of the full ballet, but let’s be honest...2.5 hours is a lot of time to spend on any orchestral work. For the suites, I like Jarvi the Elder, possibly the greatest Prokofiev interpreter alive today. His disc of the Stalinist Cantata for the 20th Anniversary of the October Revolution is a cherished favorite.

  • @james.t.herman
    @james.t.herman 3 роки тому

    I think I heard The Knights’ Dance for the Olympics or something, too.

  • @Barbirollifan
    @Barbirollifan 3 роки тому +1

    I don't quite agree about the suites vs the full ballet. I absolutely adore every number in this ballet, even if there is some repetition along the way! I am very familiar with both the Previn and Maazel versions but since watching this have been listening to Ozawa and Gergiev's LSO Live one (which you gave a very positive written review of on your site, but don't really mention here-you sort of mention that Gergiev did one). I really, really love the Gergiev! The Ozawa has some beautiful moments for me, but the more I listen, the Gergiev is the one that delivers for me. And it is an added bonus that the SACD sound is so great!

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому +1

      Fair enough!

    • @foreverkarajanfan
      @foreverkarajanfan 2 роки тому +1

      Gergiev's LSO Live complete set is my all-time favorite! The performance is simply stunningly beautiful, from the beginning to the end with outstanding orchestra playing and excellent sound: the mood, the lyricism, and the sentimentality. Together, they create a most moving listening experience.

  • @jankucera8180
    @jankucera8180 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the review, this music is a matter of true passion to me. The Ančerl's recording is of course where I learned about it (no other was available)... and the Muti/Philadelphia disc has been my favourite CD to test audio equipment, so good I found it (it was an early PCM, bud a good one...). Just a little point: It is a ballet, and a real ballet classic every ballet dancer wants to do - you should see it if you get a chance. The way a theatre orchestra plays it on occasion of a ballet performance would be different from a pure concert performance... (Just FYI, it's premiere took place in Brno, Czechoslovakia.)

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому +1

      I know. I've seen it several times. The premiere took place in Brno because the Bolshoi rejected the music as "undanceable."

    • @jankucera8180
      @jankucera8180 3 роки тому

      @@DavesClassicalGuide Thanks for your reply. No doubt you know all this. I thought it might be of some interest to other fellow "visitors" of your channel. :)

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому

      @@jankucera8180 Thank you.

  • @shostakovich343
    @shostakovich343 3 роки тому +4

    I think there are legitimate reasons to prefer Previn to Maazel. Previn is by far the more balletic of the two -- Maazel's tempi are without exception fast and unyielding -- and more atmospheric. Take the aubade, or morning serenade, from the third act. Maazel races through the music as if it were a morning galop, and although the Cleveland Orchestra easily outperforms the LSO, they sound bright and emotionally uninvolved during these more elegant scenes. Those bleating Gramophone critics were right in this instance to say that the performances are complementary. A choice comes down to personal preference, and Previn really has a lot going for him.
    Oh, and disclaimer: I am not British.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  3 роки тому

      You don't have to be British to like Previn. I like Previn; I just have found, over time, that his performance has not worn well considering the competition, and not just Maazel. His Cinderella, on the other hand, I like much better.

    • @JamesDavidWalley
      @JamesDavidWalley 3 роки тому

      It wasn’t just the reviewers at _Gramophone_ indulging in their usual Previn/LSO cheerleading. When the recordings came out in the early-mid-'70s, I recall the folks at _High Fidelity_ and _Stereo Review_ also proclaiming it a dead heat.

  • @ahartify
    @ahartify 2 роки тому

    In my country they used the adagietto from Mahler 5 for a laundry detergent advert. Sacrilege, I say!

  • @peterhaslund
    @peterhaslund 2 роки тому

    Dude, you're funny keep digressing please