RBY Counter Anomalies
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- rby counter is probably a really good move to get your opponent to time out from googling something every other turn
/ humanreverend
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music used:
Pikmin 2 - Giant Breadbug
Shin Honkaku Hanafuda - BGM 7
Cel Damage - Main Menu
Garfield 2 DS - Avoid Traffic
Ecco The Dolphin - The Lagoon
Sims 2 DS - Manager's Suite
Shin Megami Tensei - Arcade
Ecco The Dolphin - Undercaves
Stuart Little 3 - The Garden
RBGY increasingly reminds me of the mr burns bit where he has every disease but theyre all in perfect equilibrium so he doesnt die.
god comment
insanely peak comment
So what you're saying is, it's indestructible?
@peacebone8112 Well no, a little niche action could glitch and crash everything-
@@sketchydude8431 Indestructible...
It is pretty funny that 80% of rbys combat nuance and unique selling points are moves that are unique because they were programmed incorrectly.
You would like Melee
Monster Rancher content would be neat. I have a Phoenix stall deck in Monster Rancher Battle Card 2 that I'm sure is purely diabolical and worth all my suffering playing on hard mode
@@MrCactuar13 Legitimately recommend the channel MooseBones then, guy makes a ton of great MR content. There is in fact a whole-ass competitive scene for that franchise, and he's one of the main faces of it.
How did you comment this a day ago when this video is 4 hours old
@@SnepperStepTV Patreon member
The coolest part of RBY Counter is that since a Pokémon can counter a move that didn't hit instead of visualizing them physically countering a strike you just get to think of them being full of fucked up evil RBY energy for no reason
yeah
so its the same mental image of gen 1 hyper beam
i personally greatly enjoy it when my chansey gets fucked up on darkness and explodes a tauros with its sick kung fu skills because the tauros was tired
@@ComfyBasilisk chansey used her secret technique: dark evil pack rotation
I imagine counter as the pokemon performing a parry and counterattack like in dark souls but instead of parrying an actual attack they just parry the air the enemy breathes
One of the funniest things I've seen during a game, was some unfortunate soul who had snorlax self-destruct on my Zapdos, from a decent amount of health. So I brought out Snorlax, and they brought in Tauros. I expected them to do an attack so I went for a funny counter, but they switched to Exeggutor and uh, yeah. Then they brought out Persian, but then inexplicably switched to Tauros, and lost THAT too. Poor fella got hit by TWO counters off the SAME move.
No fucking way
YOU CAN CONTINUE USE THE FUCKED UP EVIL RBY COUNTER?
At that point you were probably doing over 1000 damage
@@kalvarrdecided to check the math again.
Snorlax Self-Destruct vs. Zapdos: 335-394 (87.4 - 102.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
zapdos was at 67% health to be exact which supposedly is about 257 HP.
For counter, 257 x 2 is 514.
VERY few pokemon have over 514 health so you can imagine it would have been terrifying for their team. At that point I don't blame them for forfeiting, it must have looked like some real BS lmao
They probably thought you were cheating lmao
I once used counter on a hyper beam... 2 turns after the hyper beam was used
Gen 1 Counter also works across entire battles in-game. The flag isn't reset between battles lol
this means that you can hypothetically store an exeggutor explosion and have a trump card to catch rhydon switching in to gengar
They should implement this on Showdown and assume the previous battle always ended with explosion.
The fucking hypno Roy inflicting a darkest dungeon debuff on Falco via psychic damage is a masterpiece holy shit
Falco's resolve is tested:
FEARFUL!
really love the weird almost ominous sentence "and it was all yellow..." to describe being paralyzed
For a moment I thought it was about The King In Yellow, but no it's a Coldplay song.
This channel feels like adult swim big yellow
That's perfect, actually.
RBY is like melee but instead of being in awe of what emerged from shitty programming I'm horrified
Smash 64******
ADV is melee
To be fair it was coded in assembly which is certainly not easy by any standard
@@ln8496Smash 64 has a relatively low number of bugs
ACTHUALLY SSBM's advanced techniques such as wave dashing and L-cancelling were intentionally implemented according to-
I love that every part of gen 1 is busted enough to get its own video, Counter isn't even the most broken move
RBY when r̶̢̛̬̲̈̑̌́̀̔̾̆̑͗̚̕͘ḁ̸͓̯͕͐͋̓͗͘g̷̻̩̜̭̺͌͛̄́ẹ̴̛̗̫͉̹̤͎̲͔̣͍̿͌͑̏͂̿̀̀̎̈́͒̑͜
@@terrortaste6389 RBY when TM035:
Psywave my beloved
@@ExpandDong420 RBY when silly Super Glitch with my unassuming friend over a Link Battle
Truly a video series to rival Stryderx9's "X crashes Paper Mario".
Now that this video exists, the true distraction when playing on ladder will be to send them a link to this video. They will watch it to the end and time out. Surely this advanced strategy will outsmart my opponents every time.
can always count on my good pal rev to come in with those top tier OST picks like Stuart Little 3 - The Garden
dont forget about other god tier picks such as
pikmin 2 - giant breadbug
garfield 2 ds - avoid traffic
I love it whenever Ecco the Dolphin music pops in. That's how you know it's getting grimy.
@@howisthis8849Yeah opening with PIkmin 2's - giant breadbug was a powermove and it worked!
Don’t worry I am also glad the Nidoqueen battle was sent to the shadow realm, dual screens starmie and speed controless wrap dragonite were perhaps not my smartest ideas
This may be the video where Reverend is the most “not okay”, but now this makes me crave a psywave video because of that move’s notoriety
Mish Koz made a video on psywave
@@bewill5121 who
@@frownyclowny6955 I'm not sure how i'd classify mish koz, they're a variety channel? i dont do good words but i do like them, they make fun deep dives and shitposts (even if the psywave vid is only 5 minutes, i'll link it)
ua-cam.com/video/gqlWrofeRGA/v-deo.htmlsi=flCi_Jc3D1Eqw7x5
@@frownyclowny6955variety channel i guess?I dont do good words but i like them and they're most notable for making the original mario 64 iceberg video that started that trend a while back
@@bewill5121I love that dude but he def just popularized the trend, didn't start it
Another in-game related fun fact.
Counter ALSO doesn't reset at the end of a battle. It is possible to counter the last move that was used in the previous battle.
ua-cam.com/video/_pyUJZtiGNU/v-deo.html (volume warning - its a randomized run but the counter mechanics are normal)
So hypothetically if you set up the Explosion Counter with a fast enough Counter user you could just spam Explosion for the entire game?
@@StarfieldDisarraycounter has decreased priority and thus always goes last. So thats not gonna work.
Bug keep bimmy's not gonna know what hit him, literally
@@IschmarVI Simply use Thunder Wave and guarantee para every time (ground types DO NOT exist)
Would this apply to pvp battles? Imagine trying to get the an in-game trainer to hit you with a Hyper Beam at the end of the battle so you can use Counter at the start of the next pvp match lmao.
Look Gary there I am! There I am!
Now where's my Gen 7 LC Ubers video as promised for the bounty reward
wow dude I was just talking to you on the CAP server small world
I think it's the Italian version of counter but in that version of Pokemon they thought "counter" meant a counting tally so for 4 pokemon generations it was an IRL language glitch too!
Yes, and it stayed that way for 6 generation.
Pound was also translated as the unit of measure and not the verb.
Most coherent RBY programming oversight:
Reverend only published this video without any Squidbillies bits so people would stop asking him what show it was
Sidenote, I did start watching some of those episodes, in spite of having to dig through so many sites because no one in Australia has the early seasons. Funny stuff.
Reverend is actually a shill for Big Squidbillies
can't believe gen 9 ruined TM18's legacy of being entirely usable moves. counter -> rain dance -> u-turn -> reflect -> thief 😔
Wdymmmm technician theif scizor was meta defining being a defogger that could chunk gholdengo and steal its item (provided you ran no item or lost your item) /j
@@floorgle this sounds like something emvee would do
You jest but thief scizor was actually a vital part of the gen 9 UU metagame. Pre dlc, scizor had its knock off dexited. To break dirge on sd sets, LO thief was an innovation that let you 2hko dirge on the switch, or Tera fire to beat torch/wilo
@@tempestgreen1125 oh yeah i know, pre home uu was a wild place (and somehow not as wild as it is now lol) it sounds so fake but is actually not bad which makes it really funny
thiefs good in gsc!
I had unintentionally used Counter with Wigglytuff after using Thunder Wave in a randbat game. Had no clue how it worked but I just accepted it because Gen 1.
why do i see you on every fucking smogon video ever wtf
@@flatziswashed Because I have no accolades aside of my knowledge of Pokémon. This all I know.
Gen 1 - Where the most bs thing can happen and no one would doubt about that.
They would just assume it's one of those gen 1 fuckery that they have never known.
I think if they added the chance for Counter to say critical hit onto showdown that would be absolutely hilarious.
I'm a simple man. I see new Reverend upload, I watch on loop 255 times.
You “missed” one.
Watch once more, and you won't have watched it at all.
ive been cycling between reverend and big yellow for weeks now
You meant to watch it once, but due to a programming error you actually watched it -1 times, which due to integer overflow translates to 255 times.
imagine NOT having a sleep playlist with all the Reverend classics
I feel like we're really glossing over the genius that is setting bounties for clips of Funny Plays
For a busted, buggy move, Counter is almost... comprehensible in how it ended up that way. It FEELS like it works intentionally, even when it doesn't, as opposed to some moves, which function purely through the will of whatever god you believe in. This game continues to fascinate.
whenever i whiff a hyper beam into a stalled counter i feel like i shit my pants on stage at the school talent show
Simply own it bro.
Claim shitting your pants is your talent.
That CivV "The wonder you were building was built by someone else!" SFX just hit me like a 50 base power psychic move. Then the Suezo made my brain desynch.
In other words, another excellent video.
I clicked so fast a temporal disruption has sucked me into a strange counter verse where I can only eat after winning Kingambit 50/50s a 1000 times in a row.
So you have to win 9.25783436 x 10^305 50/50s each second in order to have, on average, one meal per day?
Easy shit just mindgame your opponent.
your barely-restrained contempt for chansey is always a highlight of your RBY videos to me
What truly elevates the video is all the little visual gags and easter eggs tucked away in the background. Makes me feel less guilty rewatching a video when I can just tell myself I'm searching for more hidden jokes!
> open video
> pikmin music playing
I’m in for peak. I just know it.
I knew I could always COUNT on you! Please, shannon, let me see the kids.
Imagine if Counter damage was affected by Reflect and the crit ignored it
i love the use of liminal spaces as b-roll(?) or transitions
Thank god finally something explaining what the hell counter is doing in gen 1.
It's the only time I've actually triggered Desync Clause in showdown. (Completely on accident)
I keep trying to understand Gen 1 Counter more but every time I do it kind of hurts my brain instead
I think I get it! Maybe! Possibly!
@@Trillyana Uhhhh it's super simple!
It deals double damage of the last normal or fighting type move!
*And items
*And if you're paralyzed
*And if you're asleep
*And it sometimes kills the game
@@Nikkidafox *But also doesn't work on Thursdays
*And if used by Hitmonlee it changes the game's color palette
*If used after the move Vicegrip it can cause the cartridge to leak battery acid
i was not expecting liminal spaces in an rby video but the editing is incredible and youve convinced me that the move counter is a cryptid
Yeah, what was the deal there? Why'd he make the transitions so creepy?
best bits
4:00 - ~guard special~
5:45 - nidoqueen counter bounty
8:12 - machamp’s special lollipop dance
8:52 - gamer machamp counter
10:59 - the fight button
I'd watch a Monster Rancher video if you made one
MR2 Ubers breakdown vid when?
Time to get to work developing a MR online simulator to punch Smogon in the nuts
@@Cheebs3D entire video dedicated to how fucked up Phoenix Heat Beam is
Didn't you get caught talking to underaged girls?
I'd recommend MooseBone's Rancher Rundown series of videos for anybody with an interest in Monster Rancher. They aren't in the same monotone style as Reverend, but are still very funny and informative videos about a game with a pretty legitimate competitive scene.
@@Edd_HarrHeat Beam honetsly isnt even all that fucked up entirely because Phoenix is primarilly a power monster and its an Int move lol
Thank you Reverend, I will be sure to rewatch this video every time I run Counter as one of my Gimmick Buttons™ on UU Clefable the next time it's given a spotlight ladder and instead of winning me the match Ralph Smogon sentences me to playing 10 more games against people running Charizard and Pikachu
counter is one of those moves i forget exists until it completely decimates me
also monster rancher has so much stupid/great jank don't threaten me with a good time
People dont appreciate the beauty of finding an equilibrium in a code wasteland
If Reverend made a Monster Rancher video I would give him my firstborn
Good news, buckaroo!
Reverend videos delight my autism brain so much that I keep rewarching them, and when YT autoplays to them, I always watch. Grest addition to the repertoire.
I was making a "patch" for RBY that injected some code into the save file to give it the Smogon clause rules. Sleep and Freeze clauses were easy. But Counter? That still gives me nightmares.
Ironically it would actually be easier to just fix Counter entirely than try to detect all the edge cases to force it to fail like on Smogon.
All you'd need to do to patch it is have the side that got paralyzed to reset the "last move used" variable to the previous value when it gets paralyzed and the move is fixed. That would prevent desyncs since both cartridges would be checking the same move to see if Counter fails or not.
But in order to detect if a desync would have happened, the other player needs to know whether or not the move selected would have caused a desync, but when a mon gets paralyzed, it only sends over that the mon is paralyzed and not the move it used.
As a result, you'd need to actually have the patch use the link cable functions to send over the selected move, which is a bit trickier than just reading values from RAM. That's where I ended up getting stuck since I didn't understand how that worked at the time.
I'll probably resume the project in the future, though. I had some neat ideas, like throwing in a party editor and even a way to make your player sprite show up as an NPCs to the other cartridge.
My tiny bird husband who eats bugs and shoots while talking about the most insane things about games i've been playing for years is back, this is the best day
Wait, Reverend has a spouse? and that's you?
@@toastytoad8154it was a hot and spicy nigh in vegas thanks to an elvis impersonator and charmander and his brother were there too, even angemon. anyways look out behind you its skull servant!!!1!1
Squirtle would probably be unmatched at challenge pissing.
Oh my god he forshadowed the suezos video
Really appreciate that you made hypno at 1:16 roy and not marth, because they're both sort of second banana to Marth/every ou psychic type respectively.
8:50 Shin Megami Tensei 1 music detected. engaging self-destruction mode
Looking forward to that "The SECRET STRENGTH of SUEKI SUEZO" vid 4 months from now! Good show!
thank god another reverend video came out. my brain was close to overwriting so many squidbillies moments from my brain, but those synapses are still firing as intended.
I’m really happy that Counter is allowed in all its fucked up glory because I don’t think any other move in Pokémon gets as many huge pop offs as a good Counter prediction
Smogon RBY is so funny because they'll mod the game to not allow 2 freezes because it's unfair and uncompetitive, meanwhile they made sure to implement a 1/256 chance that you get fucked for no reason
i love how you're talking the way i expect larry to talk
especially when you read the "title cards"
The only solution is to update showdown with every single feature rby has until ladder becomes equally unable as it does on cartridge
The more I learn about glitches in RBY the more I think that RBY is held together with duct tape, glue and wishes
woah there rby doesn't have the budget for duct tape, all you can get is glue and wishes.
rby is a magical game that gets worse and worse the more you learn about the gameboy and its architecture
And not even real glue, Shigeki Morimoto's original role in the team was just cutting off the adhesive strips of envelopes.
RBY is the chaotic evil cousin of Super Smash Bros Melee
Machamp countering your own Explosion was by far my favorite part of the last video and knowing the specifics of how this most fucked up of interactions works doesn't make me enjoy it any less. But I'm a massive fucking nerd so that opinion may not be universal.
I'm not a programmer, but I get the feeling that Counter looks like a programming student's final project if said student had a week to work on it and did it all in one night.
Okay, I think I know why Counter would have failed if they used it on Bruno while he used an X-defend: In gen 1, the enemy will choose their move first, then turn order is determined, and then the AI makes a *separate* check to see if they use an item, which will take effect at the same priority as the move they selected, so what probably happened is they clicked Counter on the same turn that Bruno chose to use Counter and *then* overrode that with an X-Defend, giving him a -2 priority X-defend that would activate after their Counter, thus probably making your counter fail, and why they would mention X-defend being a lower priority than Counter.
Ah yes another Reverend video talking about a meta game I haven't touched in my entire life. I'm enamored.
counter is a fun move... i'm glad they patched the desync with it instead of just banning it outright ❤ good video!
Amazing foreshadowing at the end there. Excited for the new direction this channel is taking!
Being able to paralyze your opponent after you get hit by a physical move and RNG into a free counter proc is so funny.
I'm so entertained by this old god of pokemon UA-cam Tell ing me the dark intricacies of counter in generation one of the beautiful game, I'm locked in
That machamp self explosion counter play is still the funniest shit ever, thanku for sharing it
Ok but unironically i would fucking eat up monster rancher content m
Starting off with breadbug music was a masterclass idea
great video rev! looking forward to the ralph smogon grudge match
So I swapped to your "Pretty Good RBY Pokémon" video and it jumped right to the part talking about Machamp counter
Anyway, here's how to watch Reverend RBY discussions as 35 five minute long videos:
Thank God this video exists. I was spending months of sleepless nights fretting than Gen 1 Chansey may not have benefitted from programming errors in Gen I. You are a true hero and patriot.
My favorite part about this video is the part where a Jimothy Cool video is partially watched through and that implies we can now get a crossover about Gen 3 vs Gen 1 and which one is truly sillier
Your videos are actual perfection. I could listen to you talk about random pokemon knowledge all day
WE AINT BEATIN THE RBY TUBER ALLEGATIONS WITH THIS ONE❗️❗️❗️❗️🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love this channel. Great humor, amazing editing and intriguing topics.
I think burglars in Gen 1 try to throw a Pokeball at your Pokemon. Not sure how reliable it is to try using counter against that.
Counter and Mirror Coat are still the coolest shit you can pull off to this day, I’m glad there’s a format where it’s run consistently and is also super fucked up.
Actually watching the video after just listening to it is like being able to enjoy it for the first time twice.
5:49 Oh my god I never thought I'd hear Garfield A Tail of two Kitties DS music in a video. I had that game as a kid. The game isn't good but it has some great soundtrack.
the civ 5 bad thing notification never fails to ohko me
fantastic, a new reverend video to watch 5 times while i'm awake and another 15 times while i'm falling asleep
(this is a compliment. reverend videos hit the perfect balance between interesting and chill vibes to help me pass out as someone who doesn't sleep well)
Counter has to be one of the most underrated moves in Gen I. Even today, there are professionals who still believe it's useless in competitive.
this is like the mike stoklasa of pokemon youtubers and i mean that as an absolute complement
Just wanted to take a minute to lyk that you're my favorite youtube channel and I can see the enormous amount of effort you put into these projects. Your pokemon cryptid video is one of my favorite pieces of art ever created by man or beast
yay effort vid, deadass first youtuber I actively check to see if he uploaded. love this shit.
Ngl I put this on to have something to listen to while I do some cleaning but the visuals were funny enough that I ended up just vaguely standing/walking around staring at it instead. Great job!
It's not gen 1 without some bizzare/funny jank
Btw, I love the interaction of RBY counter storing damage
You would not believe how stoked I was to watch this. Thank you Reverend.
some day this will be shown in an art gallery
Monster Rancher is going in Combo Breaker and now Reverend is teasing an MR video
What a year to be a Monster Rancher fan
Not sure if it was commented already, but a theory for the "X defend lower priority" discrepancy around 3:30 in the video: Among the many bugs in Gen 1 are discrepancies in how NPCs use items. Unlike for the player or in later games, RBY NPC items do not alter their turn's priority and instead use the priority and speed of whatever move their pokemon WOULD have used it they hadn't chosen to use an item. This means that if you're faster than Surge's Pikachu, X Speed can be used before your turn if he was planning to use Quick Attack, and after for the other moves. (Thanks, JRose)
I would guess that when X Defend was tested, the 'victim' was a slower pokemon that was planning to use a reduced-priority move that would have gone after Counter, disrupting the move's success through turn order rather than item usage. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding how THAT part of the problem works.
Yeah that actually makes a lot of sense. I know I've definitely seen Blaine just use a super potion on his turn after my action which healed like 1/3 of the damage I did and then just killed him anyway next turn.
"a reduced priority move"
so counter then
my fave thing about Advanced OU is counter works on hidden power (i think it does in gen 2 too), regardless of whether its physical or special.
Specially defensive Swampert can tank a salamence or tyranitar Hidden Power Grass and counter it back, OHKOing them. Its quite a good trade tbh, especially when swampert can heal back up with protect + lefties
That's cool that there's a special message telling you that it's doing custom logic to avoid what would be a desync in the vanilla game
Reverend videos are always a treat!
I love how Plinkett changed history and how things are presented interestingly
Redlettermedia's plinkett videos were a godsend to the review genre. AVGN and Nostalgia Critic era was just screaming spergs throwing props around on camera while treating the clips of the actual subject as if it were B-roll.
Then the Phantom Menace review rolls in and everyone realizes that a well edited video with dry humor that focuses on the subject over everything else is what a comedy review should look like.
I'm just commenting to help with your algo.
I just wanted to say that I learned the Japanese name for Sheer Cold, the OHKO ice move, is "Absolute Zero" - and that name is like 100,000% more awesome, that now the name Sheer Cold hits with the impact of like a nice satin handkerchief being draped across your face.
They probably changed it because it'd be too long
@@R.P.Genocraftmoves like "Shadow Punch" and "Sky Uppercut" are the same number of characters and introduced in the same generation...
Night slash is pretty cool too, Japanese name is "crossroad killing"
@@DJFracus those are 1 character shorter...
They should make a rby format that allows desyncs so you can crash the website by making the best decision 75% of the time that also breaks the game 25% of the time. We need the real rby experience here.
Don't you hit me with that Stuart Little 3 music. I was like "it couldn't be" but I went to the description to check and it was. Nostalgia hurts man.
I love you reverend. I'm still trying to get that Jigglypuff desync for my kiss
5:53 GYAAAAAAAT 😖😖😖
Can't wait to pull up this video every time I suspect my opponent has a counter Chancey in RBY