I think Tappei (the writer of Re:Zero) thinks more on the idea of Psycology but through the thought process of Moral Absolutes - Subaru’s Pride is what first triggers this kind of spiral. Not just his unwillingness to call for help, but that he must be the one to solve the problem of Elsa. He hates the fact that Reinhard on his own could beat Elsa, and hates the fact that he cannot solve the problem on his own. His unwillingness to find others to help, his insistence that he can find the solution (something weirdly enough you can tell he was doing with Emilia in the first loop) and his own inability to read social que’s ends with his mind being pushed more in fight or flight without letting himself relax and to recenter himself. That is Subaru’s pride at least as I understand it. (Also throughout the story, it’s clear that Tappei likes to go for more broad versions of each of the Sins, implying that you might need to look at a broader definition of each sin than what is generally thought of. We see this with Betelgeuse claiming being dead or your message not making it to the person as “Slothful” as well with Echidna’s Greed being for knowledge, not property or money as it’s usually associated.)
Yo, glad to see you react to the IF stories! There's a good chance we may get Season 3 announced in March, so I'm hopeful for more Re:Zero reactions in the future!
"Can you really call Subaru evil?" If you can't call Subaru evil when he betrays and slaughters everyone, (does everything you skipped so as not to trigger people in the middle of the video)and destroys an entire nation for a stranger he is obsessed with, then you can't call anything evil. Moral relativism really causes some silly comments sometimes.
That's why I consider what if's are not the what if stories but the what if Subaru's. The change is not because of a fate that has dragged Subaru. It's because he chose a different path because he is a different Subaru. Mainline Subaru would never ever try to kill all the kingdom for any reason
@@cokonat58 Actually, subaru acted the same circumstances changed. The author confirmed that subaru actually did call for help but reinhard didn't hear him that time, which led down the pride route.
It’s funny cuz he still hates her for killing him so many times and is basically just using her. Which…can’t blame him. It’s better Elsa goes after Subaru here than the weird affection she had for Garfiel
@@ma.2089 im kinda late to the party, but this needs to be cleared or my head will explode!!! At the pride if, did Elsa really had a feelings for subaru?
Its a matter of frame work to me. Seeing things through the Sin relations or seeing things through the human relations. Pride is simply believing your right at the cost of basically everything else; that inability to recognize a need for help because your emotional and or mental drive demands that you alone are enough. Pride becomes Vainglory when this level goes beyond the scope of mortal factors and reaches the divine. in scope of view. I liked this Iff story summary because it points out what the LN made obvious about early Barasu. He tackles to much on his own.
Already subscribed to Echidnut. He’s not quite Gigguk (but who is?), but his content, especially his Re:Zero content, is really good. I also follow Jakez123 and NatalieXHunter (who just got her channel back yesterday after a long battle with UA-cam after it was locked down after I think it was a hacking attempt), and they too have really good Re:Zero content.
@@VBandit47 yes she has. I'm glad that 1. she's at least been able to maintain some amount of sense of humor through everything, and 2. that she finally got her channel back.
If you’re wonering about Roswaal’s actions, it is unclear what his gospel is saying. Personally, I believe he lost all hope in arc 2 when Subaru didn’t arrive, and that the gospel deviated. However, due to his agreement with Ram, Roswaal now has to at least act like he’s alive. Oh, and Rem is most likely dead to a mabeast curse, so Ram only has Roswaal left now. However, I think Subaru’s singleminded dedication to a single cause gave Roswaal something to live for. EX stories 2 and 3 shows us how Roswaal is willing to make decisions in the heat of the moment that somewhat contradict his gospel, just to save someone because he (or rather she at that point) admired that someone’s singleminded dedication to their wife. Basically, this Subaru is someone Roswaal admires, because it validates the lengths he himself has gone just so he could revive Echidna at the end.
Haven’t watched yet but I’m just gonna hope he doesn’t actually see the arc 5 spoilers portion. Or at least I hope he doesn’t remember the spoilers for arc 5/season 3 when he watches s3
@Chris_1115 the author and a friend of his. He told his friend all the details in case he died so if he died the fans would know what happened about everything although not get a finished product like Beserk is getting but instead just summaries of the ending
The reason we brand it as prideful isn’t nessecarily because we are judging, but rather, it’s because the story generally takes the broadest possible definition of each of the seven deadly sins and applies it to how the characters view the world. For instance, under christian definition, not all forms of pride are sinful. Feeling pride after accomplishing something, or after doing something charitable, is good, because it is a motivator. It’s when you take an attitude of pride without having something to back it up, where people often fall into the trap of using the motivator that is pride to justify injustice. Re: Zero does away with the distinction between good pride and bad pride. The way that Tappei sees sin (in a narrative sense at least), is purely as a motivating emotion/mindset. Whether the actions are right or wrong is always up for interpretation, but Tappei always makes sure to show us where the pitfalls of each deadly sin lie. Basically, it is a way to dissect the morality of the concept of the seven deadly sins, in order for the reader to learn how to interpret them, without judging a good person as being sinful, when they didn’t do anything unjustifiable. It is an exploration of the thin line between good and evil.
I hate Re:Zeros fanbase centered around the IF stories. They do not understand the themes of the show to appreciate the divergences and also do not understand Subaru is much more worse off in these routes.
The only one that’s moderately good is the Sloth IF and even that’s because he eventually rejects Sloth. But that’s fairly debatable if that timeline is really that good.
@@Megamanlanprime i think it’s cuz, while it’s Subaru’s sloth, it’s also Rem’s sloth. Subaru eventually rejects sloth, but Rem never does. Tho Subaru does play in keeping her that way
ofc, Subaru was evil. Evil simply means "harm". We have such concepts as natural evil, where there is no responsible moral agent for the "evil". Be it illness, tornado or even an icicle that falls upon your head. But Subaru is far from natural evil. In this route he is just an evil person, who ruined thousands of lives.
I think Tappei (the writer of Re:Zero) thinks more on the idea of Psycology but through the thought process of Moral Absolutes - Subaru’s Pride is what first triggers this kind of spiral. Not just his unwillingness to call for help, but that he must be the one to solve the problem of Elsa. He hates the fact that Reinhard on his own could beat Elsa, and hates the fact that he cannot solve the problem on his own. His unwillingness to find others to help, his insistence that he can find the solution (something weirdly enough you can tell he was doing with Emilia in the first loop) and his own inability to read social que’s ends with his mind being pushed more in fight or flight without letting himself relax and to recenter himself. That is Subaru’s pride at least as I understand it. (Also throughout the story, it’s clear that Tappei likes to go for more broad versions of each of the Sins, implying that you might need to look at a broader definition of each sin than what is generally thought of. We see this with Betelgeuse claiming being dead or your message not making it to the person as “Slothful” as well with Echidna’s Greed being for knowledge, not property or money as it’s usually associated.)
Yo, glad to see you react to the IF stories! There's a good chance we may get Season 3 announced in March, so I'm hopeful for more Re:Zero reactions in the future!
"Can you really call Subaru evil?" If you can't call Subaru evil when he betrays and slaughters everyone, (does everything you skipped so as not to trigger people in the middle of the video)and destroys an entire nation for a stranger he is obsessed with, then you can't call anything evil. Moral relativism really causes some silly comments sometimes.
No heart for you then, lol
That's why I consider what if's are not the what if stories but the what if Subaru's. The change is not because of a fate that has dragged Subaru. It's because he chose a different path because he is a different Subaru. Mainline Subaru would never ever try to kill all the kingdom for any reason
Evil and good and prospective, not fact
@@cokonat58 Actually, subaru acted the same circumstances changed. The author confirmed that subaru actually did call for help but reinhard didn't hear him that time, which led down the pride route.
oh I didn't know I needed this till now
I think it has already been mentioned to you but in this route Elsa is the heroine and develops a kind of love for Subaru.
It’s funny cuz he still hates her for killing him so many times and is basically just using her.
Which…can’t blame him.
It’s better Elsa goes after Subaru here than the weird affection she had for Garfiel
@@ma.2089 im kinda late to the party, but this needs to be cleared or my head will explode!!! At the pride if, did Elsa really had a feelings for subaru?
Bro guessed exactly what happens in this if story near the 11:00 minute mark
Great video Ed! Was hoping for this video for a while and I loved every second of it!
Another IF story reactor yay!! I think you're the 5th or 6th to react to this amazing story
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Its a matter of frame work to me.
Seeing things through the Sin relations or seeing things through the human relations.
Pride is simply believing your right at the cost of basically everything else; that inability to recognize a need for help because your emotional and or mental drive demands that you alone are enough. Pride becomes Vainglory when this level goes beyond the scope of mortal factors and reaches the divine. in scope of view.
I liked this Iff story summary because it points out what the LN made obvious about early Barasu. He tackles to much on his own.
The IF Story is the proof how genius Tappei(the author) is.
Man literally predicted Sloth if (aka Rem IF) and Kasaneru (Greed IF with Echidna) with pure sight into the characters. Love it.
Already subscribed to Echidnut. He’s not quite Gigguk (but who is?), but his content, especially his Re:Zero content, is really good.
I also follow Jakez123 and NatalieXHunter (who just got her channel back yesterday after a long battle with UA-cam after it was locked down after I think it was a hacking attempt), and they too have really good Re:Zero content.
Yeahhh... Natalie has been through way too much recently
@@VBandit47 yes she has. I'm glad that 1. she's at least been able to maintain some amount of sense of humor through everything, and 2. that she finally got her channel back.
@@jdoggivjc I completely agree. I've had conversations with her on Twitter, and she seems like she's trying to take things the best she can
holy shit you''re back to re:zero glad to see!
Are you planing on doing the other IF stories?
The ones that don’t spoil future content yes ❤️✨ We finished Greed If recently so more stuff to come for
@@psyculturists the greed one is probably my favorite
@@psyculturists I read Greed If, and... I could barely stomach it. It just broke my heart 😓
@@adonaimelles2317 he's anime only
@@psyculturists ❤
Me: looking for echidnut in the comments section
Holy shit! Holy shit!
Very excited to watch this!
If you’re wonering about Roswaal’s actions, it is unclear what his gospel is saying.
Personally, I believe he lost all hope in arc 2 when Subaru didn’t arrive, and that the gospel deviated.
However, due to his agreement with Ram, Roswaal now has to at least act like he’s alive.
Oh, and Rem is most likely dead to a mabeast curse, so Ram only has Roswaal left now.
However, I think Subaru’s singleminded dedication to a single cause gave Roswaal something to live for.
EX stories 2 and 3 shows us how Roswaal is willing to make decisions in the heat of the moment that somewhat contradict his gospel, just to save someone because he (or rather she at that point) admired that someone’s singleminded dedication to their wife.
Basically, this Subaru is someone Roswaal admires, because it validates the lengths he himself has gone just so he could revive Echidna at the end.
Haven’t watched yet but I’m just gonna hope he doesn’t actually see the arc 5 spoilers portion.
Or at least I hope he doesn’t remember the spoilers for arc 5/season 3 when he watches s3
This is the only story where subaru break free from curse.
Echidnut getting some good recognition
I saw this notification of Re:Zero, i came to like.
Sadly i can't watch it because it has stuff that can spoil season 3 to me. 😥
He skipped the S3 spoilers in this react.
@@I3ladeDragon ok thanks
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Psyculturist, what do you think will happen to Subaru in the ending of Original route? Will he survive or die permanently? Can you make a rough guess?
Bro, only the author knows this
@Chris_1115 the author and a friend of his. He told his friend all the details in case he died so if he died the fans would know what happened about everything although not get a finished product like Beserk is getting but instead just summaries of the ending
@@bryangarcia5207 i am telling you, rezeros author is the coolest one i have ever seen, he is prepared for everything
The reason we brand it as prideful isn’t nessecarily because we are judging, but rather, it’s because the story generally takes the broadest possible definition of each of the seven deadly sins and applies it to how the characters view the world.
For instance, under christian definition, not all forms of pride are sinful.
Feeling pride after accomplishing something, or after doing something charitable, is good, because it is a motivator.
It’s when you take an attitude of pride without having something to back it up, where people often fall into the trap of using the motivator that is pride to justify injustice.
Re: Zero does away with the distinction between good pride and bad pride.
The way that Tappei sees sin (in a narrative sense at least), is purely as a motivating emotion/mindset.
Whether the actions are right or wrong is always up for interpretation, but Tappei always makes sure to show us where the pitfalls of each deadly sin lie.
Basically, it is a way to dissect the morality of the concept of the seven deadly sins, in order for the reader to learn how to interpret them, without judging a good person as being sinful, when they didn’t do anything unjustifiable. It is an exploration of the thin line between good and evil.
Aww, I thought you had read the If Story itself 😢
This was before the LN readings for it 🥹 other LN chapters soon to come for Re Zero and MT though
Nice
Oh my
Also based uploading this on valentine's day
I hate Re:Zeros fanbase centered around the IF stories. They do not understand the themes of the show to appreciate the divergences and also do not understand Subaru is much more worse off in these routes.
The only one that’s moderately good is the Sloth IF and even that’s because he eventually rejects Sloth. But that’s fairly debatable if that timeline is really that good.
@@Megamanlanprime i think it’s cuz, while it’s Subaru’s sloth, it’s also Rem’s sloth. Subaru eventually rejects sloth, but Rem never does. Tho Subaru does play in keeping her that way
I think in pride if he really achieved eternal rest no more reborn reincarnation over n over.
@@ma.2089rem doesn't?
I want to buy these novels. the What If's
Wow awesome
ofc, Subaru was evil. Evil simply means "harm". We have such concepts as natural evil, where there is no responsible moral agent for the "evil". Be it illness, tornado or even an icicle that falls upon your head. But Subaru is far from natural evil. In this route he is just an evil person, who ruined thousands of lives.
My favorite is the sloth if
I think most peoples is “sloth if”… aka “Rem if”.
Of course its rem
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HOLY SHIT YES
To put it bluntly, the IF story is better than the main story😈
I love my villains 😈
Ky$
Nice joke 💀
That's a bit much my guy, like come on
Nope its not but its a good Re Zero content.