I admire DNB from a distance and apprciate it as music that presents a futuristic soundscape, but I'm a Detroit techno fan at heart. Still, I need my techno fat too.
I think it's good to keep some transients when using the clipper though, I tend to overdo it and even with sidechain and everything I found the drums not poking out enough of the mix. These are definitely the tricks to get louder sound though, cheers!
Soft clipping is a bit counter productive IMHO. In DnB you want peaking kicks and snares, so that you can push them quite hard into the master limiter. It makes the drums cut through the mix better and adds a bit of additional "sidechain" effect on thr limiter, as everything else ducks when those peaks hit the limiter.
Nice tutorial as always :) But one question - why do you use utility with gain automatisation instead of simply compressor with sidechain input from drums, I think it's more simply :)
doesn't make any difference since the compressor input is already ur drums, the gain of the utility is just to make them as loud as they were before. nvm, thought u meant the first drums haha. u are right for the last drums, it is simpler
@@LOckeNElviS There is a difference, Mr Bill talks about this in length but a compressor (not to be confused with a wave shaper which is still automating volume on a grid), can only react after a trigger is sent. It's a small difference but definitely SUPER noticeable when dealing with high DB tracks, but the sidechain on most compressors has a latency of when it actually starts the sidechain because it can't react fast enough because it's reactive to audio being sent to it. On top of that, you get to control the release time using volume modulation. You can do it with a compressor but it involves you highlighting the grid and figuring out how many ms you need the release time to be to make it musical, ie: an 8th note for instance, where when using volume automation, you can cut that step out and even automate the release much, much easier.
great vid! i've seen a lot of people EQ out a huge chunk in their parallel signal to avoid phasing or freq masking, do you think this a noticeable effect for most productions?
It's just an automation curve for the gain of the utility. It's drawn in and not sourced. It is the red line with the dips at 8:30 and just turns the volume down and brings it up again.
why do you add another gain utility at the end and not adjust the level on the channel? Is that how you mix your tracks together? I also think it's good to keep some bounce in the parallel drums, so leaving some room for it instead of crushing it, works a lot better than what you did, in my opinion. Cool tutorial but an odd workflow
The utility at the end is just to leave room for a possible gain automation, is better to do it on an utility rather than the channel level. The bounce on the parallel drums can be added with transient shapers but this is a matter of taste, in this case we leave them crushed. Thanks a lot for sharing those tips. Big up!
Hi, i'm a logic pro x user and i tried to download gclip, because it just has a really simple GUI and honestly it would help me out massively, however i don't know if i can because I think logic needs more than just a vst file. Is there any way around this or is there a similar product out there? Really would appreciate the help. Love the videos too Thanks in advance
@@jacklyons6063 I gave up on logic mate sorry, mostly for reasons like this. Abletons stock plugins just make it slap quickly. Especially for any dance music
Hows this a lot of work tho? Should only take you less than a minute to do these steps. Setting the compressor as shown in the video is extremely quick and then you just fiddle around with the wet signal until you get the sound you desire. You cant expect to always find the perfect drum samples. If it was that simple we wouldnt need all these techniques and plugins.
-Parallel comp
-Parallel distor
-Soft clipping
-Sidechain
You are the best DNB teachers on youtube
Have you heard of @STRANJAH he covers also a lot of DnB content! Look him up
For real dude ✨♥️
It’s tru
No the best one is stranjah 🤪 but this is good too
This is one of the best quick tip vids I’ve seen
I admire DNB from a distance and apprciate it as music that presents a futuristic soundscape, but I'm a Detroit techno fan at heart. Still, I need my techno fat too.
What your favorite fat Detroit tech tunes?
UA-cam deleting my links but these tracks:
CRAVO - EVO.03
CRAVO - Rotten Face
VIL & CRAVO - Santa Apolónia
@@Flashback_Jack thanks
I think it's good to keep some transients when using the clipper though, I tend to overdo it and even with sidechain and everything I found the drums not poking out enough of the mix.
These are definitely the tricks to get louder sound though, cheers!
It's all about finding the right balance for your track :) Cheers!
Soft clipping is a bit counter productive IMHO. In DnB you want peaking kicks and snares, so that you can push them quite hard into the master limiter. It makes the drums cut through the mix better and adds a bit of additional "sidechain" effect on thr limiter, as everything else ducks when those peaks hit the limiter.
@@BossOfAllMer That's what I discovered lately, thanks for confirming!
I like to duck🎚 my melodies with the transients/clicks of my kick so that they don't get buried in the mix.🎛
@@freshlybakeddnb5330 Cool man, happy you found a sound you like.
This is the exact tutorial I was looking for 👌👌
Gnarly demo track at the end!
But..... there's a Dry/Wet knob ON THE COMPRESSOR!!
Wow, the bonus tips were awesome!
This is such an awesome Drum & Bass tutorial right here man I love it. Big up DNB Academy.👊
Thanks!!
@@DNBAcademy You're very welcome. Much love.❤️
amazing tips!
Crazy channel, crazy tutorials..
With some amazing people following us...
Damn loving these tips👊
This was so helpful. Thankyou
Great tips. Will use all of these 👍🏻
Big up from france , for real , thanks for ur work
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks for sharing!!!
Dry/wet on ur compressor is literally ur 'parallel compression' but easier. i dont use ableton, but hell there's even makeup knob on it.
Superb 👏
Great information thanks
Thank you 🙏
amazin'
Epic.
Curious to why you are doing this in an effects rack vs a send/return channel?
Nice tutorial as always :) But one question - why do you use utility with gain automatisation instead of simply compressor with sidechain input from drums, I think it's more simply :)
doesn't make any difference since the compressor input is already ur drums, the gain of the utility is just to make them as loud as they were before.
nvm, thought u meant the first drums haha. u are right for the last drums, it is simpler
@@LOckeNElviS There is a difference, Mr Bill talks about this in length but a compressor (not to be confused with a wave shaper which is still automating volume on a grid), can only react after a trigger is sent. It's a small difference but definitely SUPER noticeable when dealing with high DB tracks, but the sidechain on most compressors has a latency of when it actually starts the sidechain because it can't react fast enough because it's reactive to audio being sent to it.
On top of that, you get to control the release time using volume modulation. You can do it with a compressor but it involves you highlighting the grid and figuring out how many ms you need the release time to be to make it musical, ie: an 8th note for instance, where when using volume automation, you can cut that step out and even automate the release much, much easier.
great vid! i've seen a lot of people EQ out a huge chunk in their parallel signal to avoid phasing or freq masking, do you think this a noticeable effect for most productions?
as long as sub is in mono you're probably ok :)
Why not scrap the parallel signal and just directly compress/saturate your drum bus? Try it
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guys the vst u use to duck down the peaks of the drums doesnt exist for mac, does anybody know a good alternative for mac?
Little Clipper from Boz Digital Labs :)
@@stobcki998 thank u very much man :)
Please explain how the utility is used to sidechain, what is it sourced to, etc
It's just an automation curve for the gain of the utility. It's drawn in and not sourced. It is the red line with the dips at 8:30 and just turns the volume down and brings it up again.
@@qwertzasdfgyxcvb ah ok just the volume is automated, awesome, easy enough, thanks!
What kind of DnB is this, when you let all of the track play?
What synth did you use to make those bass lines? Savage. Can I buy those presets?
Is this tutorial available in fl studio?
Wrong link to discord. Please update it :D
Try now :)
why do you add another gain utility at the end and not adjust the level on the channel? Is that how you mix your tracks together? I also think it's good to keep some bounce in the parallel drums, so leaving some room for it instead of crushing it, works a lot better than what you did, in my opinion. Cool tutorial but an odd workflow
The utility at the end is just to leave room for a possible gain automation, is better to do it on an utility rather than the channel level. The bounce on the parallel drums can be added with transient shapers but this is a matter of taste, in this case we leave them crushed. Thanks a lot for sharing those tips. Big up!
Using a limiter > Setting your attack time as fast as it can go
What software is this I’m a bit new to this
Can you do the same tutorial on fl studio for the fl family pls?
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Great tips but please give us longer to listen to the A/B comparison
Can I get this up on any laptop ??
Hi, i'm a logic pro x user and i tried to download gclip, because it just has a really simple GUI and honestly it would help me out massively, however i don't know if i can because I think logic needs more than just a vst file. Is there any way around this or is there a similar product out there?
Really would appreciate the help.
Love the videos too
Thanks in advance
Logic uses AU - audio units. Its a different format. Gclip is VST only. You can find other clippers like Gclip though
any recommendations on a clipper similar to one In the vid for logic?
@@jacklyons6063 I gave up on logic mate sorry, mostly for reasons like this. Abletons stock plugins just make it slap quickly. Especially for any dance music
Yeah I'm going to make the jump soon just need to save for a bit love abletons workflow so much easier to do stuff on it
wheres the free pack? the link takes me to paid packs
kinda sus
1:04 is it a reference to billie eilish?
GClip is so useful
better off getting a decent break or drum samples, this is a lot of work and pc resources just to give your break a bit more impact.
Hows this a lot of work tho? Should only take you less than a minute to do these steps. Setting the compressor as shown in the video is extremely quick and then you just fiddle around with the wet signal until you get the sound you desire. You cant expect to always find the perfect drum samples. If it was that simple we wouldnt need all these techniques and plugins.
Great tips!
Thank u!