Tray Deee on Which Side He Would Pick if There was Beef Between Muslims & Crips in Prison (Part 15)
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In a interview with Vlad, Tray Deee addressed the complexities of prison allegiances, particularly when driven by religious conversions. Vlad asked whether Tray Deee felt compelled to align with either the Muslim group or the Crips, considering his background. Tray Deee clarified that while he adopted Islam, his identity as an original Crip (O.G. Crip) from Long Beach remained unaltered. He emphasized, “Regardless of my religious pursuit, I’ll always be known as Big Tray Deee.” Upon transferring to California Men's Colony (CMC) from Salinas Valley, Tray Deee assured his Crip affiliates of his loyalty, stating he would support them in genuine conflicts but wouldn't back unnecessary provocations. Vlad inquired about potential disputes between Muslims and Crips, to which Tray Deee explained his approach of assessing the situation before taking sides, though no significant incidents involving his "Long Beach car" (group) arose that required a decisive intervention. This insight sheds light on navigating affiliations in prison while balancing personal convictions and longstanding ties. - Розваги
This is an example of serving two masters. I like how BG Knocc out denounced his gang affiliation and he is Muslim now. God is number 1 over any gang or organization.
You are correct
I agree
Masters? Yall act like crips is a religion.
He definitely doesn’t have the proper understanding of Islam.
@@WSxWS3280 actually whatever you commit yourself to with your life can be a religion. These guys would put their life on the line over a gang. So yes it can be classified as a religion. They have rituals and symbols so what would you call that?
Vlad ask the wildest questions
@ryanmays1979 Explain how is that wild to ask a legit question???
@@1stnamebr406because most people would not have the balls to ask impolite questions.
@@ashleyelizabeth8335 What? How is what Vlad asked wild?
Cuz he a white culture vulture that will never understand blacc people or try to relate to us enough for him to ask RESPECTABLE questions. Only people that aren’t blacc or people that aren’t from the hood think his questions aren’t weird af half the time
I thought it was a good question 🤷♂️
A Muslim crip is an oxymoron. Brothers be lost out here tho
Im glad someone knows 💯
Nah
But u don’t hear me tho 👍🏿😜
Sahih
The crips not a religion first and foremost. So what’s the problem
This is a subject that needs to be discussed more . Especially when it comes to religion and gang politics.
And music
French Montana and Dave East are Muslims but it seems like they take more pride in saying it than living it...🤷🏽♂️
Mutah Beale is Muslim.
@@bowlerfamily inshallah I agree with the music part but what does Mutah being Muslim have to do with the initial statement?
@@Selfpaideatz nothing. It has to do Werth the comment about French Montana and Dave East.
Oh you a muslim now no more dope games
Pac and he refused a role to play muslim gangster
First thing i thought too lol
lmfao
You took the words right out of my mouth. Haha
I immediately thought of that
Religion comes first before ur set
Yea you’re right, but that’s after you grow out of the mentality and understand that “being a man” is the same as the teachings that you learned from being on the set!! That’s like once you get older you realize can’t no man make me go ride for no stupid shit…. Or do something I don’t want to do..That’s when the shift in priorities started to align with what you truly believe in
Yes religion comes first and people who accept Islam will in shaa Allah eventually grow to that but it can take time and people should be helpful and not create a conflict like vladtv always does.
That’s how you know he’s not a real Muslim. The NOI are a perverted version of Islam that is rejected by mainstream Islam. He’s a fraud and the NOI are frauds.
Ur set is your religion
Religion or spirituality? Religion is man made as far as I’m concerned.
😂@" I wasn't a Muslim crip"...great question putting him on the spot
Hell yeah
Muslims is still a gang🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ just religion added to it.....yall lost in da sauce
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Bg knock out gave the best answer for this question
What he say
@@boxout90I think he denounced his crip card
@@boxout90he said you can’t do both
He is truly devoted to his religion.
Bg knock out is a broke b and he weak af
Vlad just watched South Central asking these questions 😂
He ain’t no deuce. He’s a mothaph**** sherm head… 😜
💀💀💀
Tray Deee is always solid.
Insane crap crip gay pride day inventing L.A. guys. Sure,be quiet boy.
Your lips are way too big to be in the crack of that man's asshole like that!
as a muslim, I completely understand his point. To him his been a crip most if not all his life, that is his tribe, those members are his family. He's not going to abandon his friends/family, his going to guide them towards the right path but he's not going to cosign bad behavior. I wish my brother nothing but the best. May Allah guide all of us.
ameen
He idolizes the flag and the gang though. He can't serve two allegiance that is haram in islam. You can only serve allah
@@InsaneCopePosse it Haram to judge aswell but are yall gonna stop doing it?
I love his explanation for the situations based of the question Vlad ask. That's exactly why he's an OG
Gang affiliation is mostly a decision made in your childhood. I never understand how men in their 40's and 50's continue to imprison themselves by decision they made at 15.
What about the Italian Mafia John Gotti was 50 and 60 gang banging in suite.
Us black people for you. I used to think ganbangers where all teens and in their 20s...I live in Europe. So seeing men who are nearly 60 on platforms like this holding onto that evil thing is upsetting. We always gravitate towards evil. It will change.. it has too.
Because most of these men hit prison at an early age where your affiliation is no longer child's play but an act of survival.
@@1judauhn All the more reason to separate from it once you're back in society. No?
Have nothing to do with blacc people is a California culture @@scratchydemus
Finally a video where Tray Deee speaks more than Vlad
Lame.
Nothing sadder than seeing men in their 40's and 50's still repping street gangs. It's like seeing 20 year old senior still in high school.
Where you think we get the term foooor life
It's the same with Mafia motorcycle games and everything else, it's for life, people from LA or Chicago know this
@@ChiraqMaybach-ii9wm Whatever excuse you can think of to make yourself feel better. Gangs are for kids.
Once you join it’s for life
@@blast4me754killing, dope dealing, knifing,crime, pimping, and robbing is for kids?? lol you understand that’s what real gangs do right? The majority of gang members are not children bru you sound naive. This ain’t no goonies you must be confused
A Muslim crip 😂😂😂😂😂 vlad bruh
Bruh u do know vice lords were Muslims 😂😂😂 cmon be smarter
This question is wild ‼️😂
Vlad still thinks of the crips as one big gang lol . Theres the long beach car, compton, gangster , rollin , watts, blue notes etc
I love the way he broke it down ❤
You go for the bullshit
I love his opening intro...
Great Question
Love Trey Deee but i gotta disagree with him on this one. When it comes to religion you can't play both sides of the fence.
It's like when i see some Christians say they're Christian but once they get out of church they start cussing,beat their wife at home and start drinking and smoking throughout the day.
The purpose of these religions is to try to live life with a pure clean soul in order to be accepted in god's kingdom. Noone is perfect of course and we all sin but when you pick a religious group you have to try and be committed by the rules and ways they go by.
Younger i used to know gang members that before doing stuff they'd say a prayer. It's like saying god you know i love you right but i'm still gonna go split this person's wig,it just doesn't go together.
youre crazy you got no choice but to defend yourself at the end of the day. He s a man first and especially in prison if the riot pops off he has to protect himself to stay alive. Survival is over everythign in prison you have no choice. He s not going around looking for trouble.stop acting like they all werent hypocrites in the bible. Even the peaceful muslims sin knock it off.
Gangs are religious
Totally agree, anybody saying otherwise. Is too yellow belly to truly separate themselves from the gang...
How is he playing both sides? Is he claiming another religion? If you listened to him you would understand. He's always been a Crip ppl who are in that lifestyle will always view him as a crip regardless of age or religious pursuits. He has Crip brothers he has known longer than his Muslim family, so as a man you expect him to just disown or reject brothers He's known all his life? He said he doesn't partake in the foolishness which means he's trying to walk the righteous path.
Big Trey Dee answered good
Nah bro you can't play both sides and do the 50/50 thang....you either gon' be 10 toes down with the Muslims or the crips.....Bottom line
💪
Yeah this dude is clearly a loser…. Like 60 years old still living gang culture
Why would a muslim & crip be beefing in the first place
Anything can happen in jail but a Muslim could never be a crip. Islam trumps any gang affiliation
@@lolucci1453pork or butt stuff
Trad dee i need drama to sell this clip, give a beef story with your homies and your religion. Lol cold game
One of the most articulate interviewees that vlad ever has solid his self awareness is very obvious
That’s a great question actually
Great fuccn Question Vlad...That was a reality checc for alot of viewers
Vlad is being disrespectful by asking those questions Tray D a buster
Damn good question, Vlad.
Much respect
Love that about him 100 is 100
I get the vibe TD not comin back on here after this one 😂
😂
He stopped coming cuz of vlads questions. I thin tray dee came on this for the check and the easy promotion for his and his wife record label they’re pushing.
In other words whoever is the strongest at the time then thats the side im on
That’s not what he said. He said he choosing whoever right at the time.
The thing I never hear from Crips is how their gang banging actually resulted in any reall wealth or power.
It seems like they mostly just beef with other gang members
Exactly its dumb
It's in the DNA of the neighborhood.
I’m not defending them but I’m sure some rappers you know are Crips buddy. It helps sell their music and movie roles after years of banging. That’s if you’re being realistic and not searching for those black thumbs on this app to sit on 😮.
That's not the intent of all street gangs. Not all are motivated by financial gain.
@@beforeyourimmigrants8471 They are more motivated by the lack of attractive women willing to sleep with them because they are scrubs?
This was A good question 🙋... you have to pick a side an you have to make a stance....he said he told his Boys soon as he step down what it was .. an he got respect real us real
The Title Of This Video Is Crazy!! 🤣💀
Tray Deee is super solid!!! Respect💯
My Man! Holdin it down 😎
I'm not going to lie. His answer confused me. I'm not sure if he conflated being a crip and being a person of notoriety into one when he answered it.
He's at peace with how he lives his life and not out here hurting anybody, so he's a good man.
Vlad is just thinking about that movie, South Central.
Tray deee. Big respect for kicking that weird question down
Exactly 💯
French Montana and Dave East are Muslims but it seems like they take more pride in saying it than living it...🤷🏽♂️
Like 99% of the rappers who “worship” Islam
@@bigtuss7482I am not a hater and don’t judge but if you actually look into islam you’ll find out none of them are actual muslims. The definition of muslim is “ submitting to God “. That means letting go of your own pleasures and desires and putting the orders and demands of your creator above them. Thats no drinking, no gambling, no smoking, no partying, no clubbing, no strippers, no flagrant videos, no bragging about money, no bragging about how tough your are, I mean music in general is haram lol, no zina ( premarital sex ) no mingling with females, etc etc I mean the list is endless truthfully none of those celebs are even a little bit muslim. And yea you can be a muslim by heart and by definition and still be sinning and have issues, but not to the extent that you COMPLETELY forget the purpose of this life and your obedience to the creator and just see life as a partyfest which is what these rappers be on.
wish tray dee would made a song and use word "regardless" in every bar
Fabricated Gz
Tray Deee did a good job enlightening Vlad on the politics
VLAD is getting hilarious..
Great answer from Tray Deee.
This man got a incredible vocabulary
Big Tray Deee alwayz the same O.G. and alwayz a big solid focus man. Got love & respect for dat dude
Perfect response. “I’m a OG Crip.. You never heard of a Crip Christian” 😂😂😂 Tray Dee back wit the real.
Seeing that Malice hoodie makes me impatient for my CD order of Malice
Once I became a Muslim I left all the ignorance behind. God is a jealous God and will not expect anything but complete loyalty. Can’t serve 2 masters , that’s like being a blood and crip at the same time… These grown men need to stop it..
Tray Dee a real og he doesn't make any accuptions or excuses he speaks only what takes place and ogs stand on the truth cuzz
That's definitely a valid question.
That's called confusion period...
VLAD be outta pocket with them questions
Vlad getting Trey Dee caught in a pickle with this one.
Now that’s gangster ! Peace to the brothers vlad as much peace to you , I see your good quest/ions on point
End of the day its always a struggle to stay on the right path. Everyone has their imperfections so does Tray Dee. You cant judge. I thought he gave a real answer.
I get it now ,,, so 40-Dog from the movie CB 4 that's the character Trae Dee,,,,,,lol 😅 haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa o my God this is hilarious,,,,,😅😅😅😅😅 ,,,lol or the opposite way around,,,,, haaaaaa,,,, Gusto,,,lol
I'm a OG Tray Deee I felt that...
The shit that’s like wild about reputation and why it’s matters
The oxymoronic shit he just say, still make sense cause you know he genuine about his stance.
Religion is man made. Spiritually is another. Truth be told you can't serve two masters. 🤔
That's called straddling the fence!
There are a lot of people that don’t care nor are they intimidated by religion.
I like Tray Dee, he stands on his values period.
A Crip Christian is wild 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
somebody would definitely be getting hit with scripture about being lukewarm
He isnt a Muslim he swears and smokes weed and willing to fight
And the dudes in the middle east raping & killing up everything
Everybody's not perfect
Such a benevolent gangster.
Come on TRAY! He baiting you. With age comes wisdom. Y’all gotta see what this dude is doing. Money gets us every time.
He 😂got mad 😡 cuz Vladimir asked the question 🙋♂️ we all wanted to know?? How are you a 🕌♿️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💯💯😂😂 I’m an OG gangsta 😂😂💯💯💯🐐🤧🤧
Lmao
For the ones who say he playing both sides!! How??? Yall acting like he still putting in work 😂😂😂😂
Seeing an old man so lost is crazy
He’s right!! He’s been a Crip for over 40 years. He’s a Crip forever.
The noi is who vlad is speaking about
Vlad thinks the largest religion in the world is a gang set 😂
MaashaAllah brother Tray Dee
He is a cripstian😂😂😂
😂😅😂
This ignorance is the very reason our communities stand disenfranchised because people want to be obligated to whatever is popular never dedicated as grown men and women to a cause. One contradicts the other....
Ohh.. Good Question lol
Religion is always first. Actually, you shouldn't be attaching yourself to anything that's negative if you really take your religion seriously. Especially violent gangs,drugs, and crime. I respect the homie a lot, but let's keep it 💯 crippin and religion don't and can not coexist together. Check yourself at the door before entering any religion
Vlad is the police!
Vlad who would you pick if the whites and the jews fought?
I don’t take jail Muslims seriously lol
Malcolm X is my favorite
I'm....still.....mobbinnnnnn
SMH, why do these conversations exist? If y'all can't see that this will trickle down into prisons, then I don't know what else to say.
I get exactly what he saying if u been known as one thing forever but u pick up a religion because u have gotten old that’s whole different situation
he picked up religion as a retirement package....tray is old and washed up
There is no honor among thieves. Everyone is entitled to their narrative, but considering I personally worked at Santa Rita County Jail and San Quentin on Deathrow ( yes, I worked on Deathrow and on a daily basis , I enteracted with the worst. Some of my clients range from Cary Stayner, Cleophus Prince, Charles ng, and other Providing behavioral therapy and support. I now work for a Federal Agency and spent a year in training at Quantico. Prisons have a hierarchy and regardless of what institution it is the CO who is the head of the food chain( they control who gets housed were and with whom, who gets set up for an assult, when to turn a blind eye and when to act on revenge, 2nd is Mexican whether it's norteno/ soreno/ Mexican mafia/3rd is the Aryan brotherhood, and 4th the black gangs , muslims, or BG don't hold no weight( they are out numbered at all times and don't operate as 1 faction) Tray Dee interviews are always entertaining, but if you spent more than half of your life in prison. Then, consider the source.
Every race runs their own car in prison. No Mexican (Norteno/Sureno) or White inmates running or calling shots on blacks 😂! Where is this hierarchy in the inmate population you're talking about? You made that shit up
You said all this to say what exactly?🤨
@FullyAutomaticAddict410 Because, I can. So what you gone do to stop me absolutely nothing. So, move the fuk on, this let alone myself is truly above your pay grade. Yiur limited education and buffoonary speaks for itself. Goodnight, you damn sucka azz nicca. Lol
Minister farakan doesn't like vlad
and farakkan is of a different sect of islan
Divide & Conquer shut all the way Down,Down ! Speaking of : VLAD come 💯 % correct all the way with The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan!! Str8 up
No Muslim is all0wed to be a part of a gang. There are things that come with being under shahadatain. We are n0t alowed to take oaths and commit shirk. If one does take some sort of oath, like for citizenship, it definitely shouldn't be for a gang. Even though many of us fall short any person who is in one still shouldn't be telling people that it's permissible.and trying to justify it. Just say that you're not supposed to be doing that and seek forgiveness.
.. with our communities, anything goes .. like the comment earlier from folk .. Italian mobsters are catholic
Muslim are a gang behind the wall
I thought you become a muslim to leave the gang life behind ? Well i thought in the last video he not really real with the muslim thing and he just proved it by not really answering the question .
Listen/watch the clip again. Gang culture and being in prison with the politics are two different things. TD been known in the streets, going to prison and becoming Muslin has no baring on how your enemies perceive you. You are going to have to maintain your gang banging mentality to survive.
@@ElJefe1986 yea fake like i said .
You been corrected or just couldn't comprehend. But believe what you want too.
@@ElJefe1986 ive been to prison i know the politics you cant correct me on nothing son . Prison religion is fake and always was just another clique
OG CKRAB
Vlad over here splitting hairs… 😐🤦♂️
He picked his Gang over his religion. He has to pick one or another in prison
They gone see you that way if you don't change the way you dress or talk or surround yourself around that culture....perspective is what you put out. An thats what most will see
Exactly. If he said, nah, don’t call me Tray Dee anymore. Call me Kalif Mohammed. People would’ve respected that.
@@r0mediddy facts after awhile you gone forget about it. Look at snoop mfs forget he is/was a crip🤣 now he doing shows with Marth Stewart its all about what you put out
He could be seen as _Tracy the Muslim_ but he is making no efforts whatsoever to change how he is to be perceived, called, viewed. He's wallowing in his former destructive personality identity instead of becoming a new man in his faith, which to me seems to be at odds.