There Are Many Appearances, but Only One Reality
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- How does the one reality localise itself as a finite mind and become a multiplicity of objects, selves and experiences?
Rupert says: ‘I would suggest: in the same way that your finite mind - which contains within itself, at least in potential, all possible dreams - localises itself within a dream, it simultaneously dreams a world within itself, overlooks or forgets itself, and localises itself in the dream as an apparently separate subject of experience. From the perspective of that subject, it can then know its own activity as the dreamed world.
‘Likewise, consider the possibility that consciousness contains within itself all possible waking-state experiences. To realise a particular waking-state experience and manifest itself in form, it has to dream the universe within itself and localise itself as an apparently separate subject of experience. From the perspective of this subject, it sees what is, in fact, its own activity as an outside world - the world that we perceive.
‘The one reality always remains only the one infinite, indivisible reality. It only appears to be a multiplicity and diversity of objects and selves from our limited and localised points of view. The multiplicity and diversity are only in its appearances, never in reality. Appearances are many; their reality is one.’
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Timestamps:
0:00 The Subject of Experience
1:27 The Dreamed World
2:04 God’s Dream
3:00 Made of Consciousness
3:31 Ten Thousand Things
5:00 The One Reality
6:32 Experience Does Not Obscure Reality
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In my dreams I used to tell the other dream characters that we were in a dream. They never believed me 😭 I stopped telling them. It's enough that I know 😂
Reality is so simple, yet so subtle!
It's so understandable and simple when Rupert speaks.
Awareness (still blank screen).
Vibrates to play a movie on itself.
The screen’s vibrations form POVs.
Awareness looks through its POVs to watch its movie.
One Awareness, one movie, many POVs.
Would be interesting to see a talk between Rupert and Jim Newman.
Hello Rupert. I'm really glad that I have opportunity to watch your videos, your explanations of direct path/non-dual practices are very clear. I remember when around 10 years ago I started to be interested in meditation/enlightment. Back then I thought: "I need to understand this, this is something important". It was a lot of books about progressive practices.. I started to "meditate", I tried strong determination sitting, getting rid of thoughts, looking at same point, breathing, relaxing.. mostly it was uncomfortable, but few times I felt interesting effects. It's funny, now I understand, I was driven by my "separate self/ego/imaginary self".. I desperately wanted to get that achievement. All my practices were no more than constant irritated anticipation.. "Is that it?! NO!!.. Did I get it?! No!.." it was not even on level of verbal thinking (I tried to not think).
Later, your videos appeared in my UA-cam recommendations. I liked that you don't use different cultural "decorations" You know.. strage suits, bald head, special postures, mantras.. I'm not religious person..
So I started self inquiry and finally recognized this "base layer consciousness". Once the feeling was very profound.. I felt myself as vast, infinite, empty, self-aware space. It's always present, and you can't come to it, because you already there. It's not even something "human", it's almost like something much more basic and primordial. "Zero state" in which any conscious experience becomes possible. My so called "separate self" is only one of infinite number of possible configurations in this huge multidimensional self-aware space. When I recognize this "zero state" all subtle fluctuations of my current experience become more noticeable.
In same time I don't feel that this imaginary self is something insignificant or something I need to get rid of. I feel that every person is a part of the whole, a unique "window" through which the World observe itself, a unique point of view that reveals something new..
Sometimes I'm watching your videos again, even if I know what You going to tell. Partly because I like how simple your explanations are and how people react on them, partly because of some "inertia" of my "separate self" that still in process of seeking..
Thank You Rupert!
~ Jellyfish
Not striving. Ever flowing.
Not minding. Ever knowing.
Aloof...yet glowing
Almost nothing...almost
Always moving yet still
Silent. so silent and still
Majestic and unspeakable
Quiescent. I Am.
Another great explanation Rupert! Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
@ruisoares4515. Not at all. This explains nothing other than telling a story.
Many are not aware of what is really being said and being instilled.
What he's been claiming over the years, is really nothing but,another insane religious ideology like many others.
A belief in a consciousness that knows Itself to be love, peace, and all fulfilled, and, yet goes on bringing endless sufferings and madness, from which it has absolutely nothing to gain from, is a belief in a reality that is psychotic and psychopathic in character.
If Rupert is correct, then, there's is no chance of liberation for this consciousness ,by its twisted, psychopathic nature. Its existence is its own condemnation by its very twisted, psychopathic nature.
It just never stops the endless sufferings and madness, while busy claiming how its all love, peace, happiness and all fulfilled. And, it knows Itself as all that, while carrying out the madness at every moment.
This is a WRONG understanding of Existence, coming from religion and its ideology. Its a form of self deception.
Existence is not like that and cannot be like that.
Self deception has always come as ear candies , pleasing the ear like a sweet poem. Only to end up deceiving oneself, others and ultimately Existence Itself.
One can never be too careful, nor, be contemplative enough, if it concerns the true nature of oneself or the nature of Existence as Is in Itself.
You take good care of yourself!
This is one of the best explanations I have heard ❤
So wonderfully explained 😊🙏
Really great
You make us understand so clear experitentially , thank you Rupert ❤
If 95% of the people had no sense of smell, would that make the remaining 5% crazy?
Qué palabras tan cristalinas!!! Muchísimas gracias!!!🙏🤍💛🧡❤️🩷💜🤎💚🩵💙
Beautifully explained ❤ thank you 🎉
Nothing was really explained other than telling a story.
It doesn't answer anything as to why, a consciousness that is happiness and all fulfilled, and Knows Itself , goes on bringing endless sufferings and madness. Why? Is because it is bored? Or, is it lacking something, so , to gain something from all this suffering madness? Which is it?
None of the followers of Rupert's ideology, are aware of what it is that is really being said, and being instilled. But, then, again, that is always the case in following religions and their ideologies and beliefs.
To believe in a consciouness that KNOWINGLY creates endless sufferings and madness, While KNOWING that It is all love, peace, happiness and all fulfilled, is to believe in a consciouness that is suffering from its own psychopathic nature.
It just never stops the madness, while claiming, how it knows Itself to be love, peace, happiness and all fulfilled.
It's like a parent claming it's all love and peace, while, violently mutilating the children.
The psychopathic nature of this consciousness is its own condemnation by its own very twisted psychopathic nature. Endlessly creating nonessential sufferings and madness. From which it has absolutely nothing to gain from? Because, it's already completely fulfilled?
This is a WRONG understanding on the nature of Existence .
Only under a religious ideology, can such insane beliefs get a free pass.
Existence is not like that. And, cannot be like that.
Self deception often comes as ear candies, pleasing the ear like a sweet poem, only to end up deceiving oneself, others and ultimately Existence Itself.
One can never be too careful or be contemplative enough, when it comes to understanding one's true nature or the nature of Existence as Is in Itself.
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Good questions. So what would you say according to your understanding, about what consciousness is and what is it trying to do and why are these sufferings created or experienced by consciousness . Please, if you want to say something?🙏
@@singhsingh5889 I was always very curious about life and everything ever since I was very little.
Numerous obes and other phenomenal experiences when I was little. It all just occurred by themselves. I was too young and too little to understand and analyze.
The very first all-in meditation into the nature of Existence began when I was in college. Almost 30 years ago.
First I did was to let go of everything, I've seen, heard, read and believed, just to be free to look and examine for myself uncontaminated. Easier said than done.
So. What was the result of my finding? I'm afraid that it's not anything that most people would be interested in. Not, something that can be marketed and offered as an experience, a taste, or an experiential self knowledge.
Why? Because, The Truth of Existence Itself doesn't allow that.
This is what I have come to understand as the Absolute Truth of myself, which is Existence as Is in Itself.
The ings of anything is not the Existence as Is in Itself.
Knowing,perceiving, consciounessing, awaring, I-ing, Am-ing, knowledging ,experiencing, tasting, ising...etc, are not and cannot be Existence as Is in Itself.
All experiences, all knowledge, all perceiving, all knowing, are not and cannot be Existence as Is in Itself.
Why do I state it this way? Sounds hopeless? It really has nothing to do with giving hopes or evoking anything experiential . It just Is regardless.
To give an understanding, I can put it this way.
Anything that you know is not the Existence in Itself and cannot Be.
Whatever you know cannot Be it really is in Itself.
You know experience. So, it's not it, you know self knowledge. So, it's not it. You know peace. It's not it. Happiness. It's not it. Beauty. It's not it. You know infinite and finite. So it's not it. You know you're conscious. So. It's not it. You know that you know. So, it's not it either.
Why. Because, when you're It, You cannot know it, until perceiving or knowing arises. It's a knowledge of experience. It's more like an understanding or an insight, from when, perceiving , knowing or knowledging reflects on its beginning and its ending.
The purpose of Knowing, consciounessing ,perceiving, or knowledging is solely to experience Existence Itself, which cannot be experienced.
But, Existence Itself, must contain a potential of ignorance to imagine that it is experiencing ,perceiving or knowing Itself. Which is suffering from the grossest to the subtlest of all experience.
In this understanding, consciouness, knowingness, the perceiver-ness, is the ignorance.
It has to learn its own ignorance thru self reflection and self introspection in all honesty as to give existence back to EXISTENCE ITSELF. Nothing else needs to be done. Existence already Is before anything is done.
Very simple.
What do you do, If I were to tell you something like this?
Don't taste Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't experience Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't know Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't perceive Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE
Don't speak Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't believe Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't aware Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't claim Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't taste Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't dream Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't write Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't name Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't pray Existence. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't knowledge. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Don't ignore. BE THE EXISTENCE.
Not very attractive, Is it? It just Is.
It's quite simple.
We just want to taste the Apple, but, we never want to be the apple Itself.
You take good care of yourself!
@@singhsingh5889 I just posted a reply in details. It quickly disappeared. Not the first time this happened.
It normally happens, whenever I post long replies in details.
Not sure who's doing it. Whoever it is , obviously doesn't want everyone to see it.
Surprised but not surprised.
Maybe I'll try again later.
You take good care!
@@singhsingh5889 Defining Existence can never be what Existence Is, regardless of how nice and noble the definitions seem to be.
Rupert's religious ideology assuming Reality to be filled with only the desirable qualities such as all love, all peace, all happiness and all fulfilled are one of the most effective ways to self deceive, originating from religion and its ideologies, defining Existence in terms of a deity as being All good and all loving...etc.
Religion defines Existence in terms of their deity always with having only the good, and the wishful qualities, because, it defines it from the point of view of Ignorance and fear. A small imaginary self, imagining a Big imaginary Self from not understanding how Nature functions.
In hopes to be compensated for its own fear and ignorance by the big imaginary Self. Thus, the Big Self must only have the desirable qualities where it can be the shelter for the fearful and the ignorant. All comes with being conscious.
This is why, you never hear anything undesirable about the deity God or consciousness under a religious ideology. Anything undesirable is usually dumped onto some other imaginary entities like the devil, mind, finite mind, limited self, finite self, ego...etc. Just to keep the the theater of self deception going.
Religious ideologies are one of the most effective ways to self deceive. It has always thrived, betting on the ignorance of many.
Naming Existence as a deity God with only the desirable and wishful qualities to lure many into the theater of self deception. It has always been like that for humanity and it continues under all sorts of teachings, with the promise of delivering the Truth.
A book after a book, a retreat after a retreat and a church service after a church service.
Consciounessing awaring, knowing or knowledging cannot BE.
Perceiving, experiencing or tasting cannot BE.
The knower, the perceiver, the experiencer, or the taster cannot BE.
All experience, all tastes, all knowledge cannot BE.
We only want to taste the Apple, but, we don't want to be the Apple Itself. We don't want to BE.
Consciousness only wants to taste Existence. It doesn't want to BE EXISTENCE.
Knowing only wants to experience Existence. It doesn't want to BE EXISTENCE.
Perceiving only wants to perceive Existence. It doesn't want to BE EXISTENCE.
Knowing, perceiving, awaring, Consciounessing, knowledging, experiencing, tasting, conceiving cannot BE.
When you're the Apple, you do not know yourself as Apple. No knowledge, No taste, No experience, No perceiving, No self knowledge to brag about.
The fear of losing consciounessing, awaring, experiencing, tasting or perceiving is the only fear. The root of all fears.
EXISTENCE simply IS without knowing. Without knowledge to brag about. Neither good to brag about, nor, bad or ugly to be ashamed about.
One can never be too careful, when it comes to the true nature of oneself or Existence as Is in Itself.
You take good care of yourself!
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I love listening to Rupert... daily lately but would love a visual presentation of his talks to help. 😊
Scott Flynn on UA-cam channel called Loveoutpouring offers really good visual presentations 🙏
Can you please link an example of this visual presentation?@@carolineshepherd1558
Swami Tadatmananda's Arsha Bodha You Tube channel has many animated videos based on Vedanta nonduality.
@@carolineshepherd1558 Thank you another one for my list...I also meant like drawing presentations. :)
@@onetwozeroyt Thank you...I just watched one :)
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so sleep is really going to source...when we "wake up"....we are really dreaming the dream of this life
Our mind cannot dream because our mind it self is dreamed object but Consciousness itself dreaming by collecting our data or memory on behalf of us.
I go
Do you perhaps mean...is there an unredeemable scenerio?
Fragmentality
So this is Consciousness dreaming a Rupert to remember to wake up from the dream in that body called Rupert.
The Don
The one thing i don't get is, if my mind creates thoughts about mental illness, fear arises. But if the scenario actually arises and i get a severe mental illness, would i be able to step back and just watch the mental illness in peace?
As a person i tend to take drugs from time to time. And very subtle disturbing of the peace arises when i keep going. Which i think has to do with catching my attention of disturbing thoughts. But wouldn't it be also true that no matter what you do in life or consume, the peace should always be available?
This is a great question, and one that I wish Rupert would cover. I think much of the answer would definitely depend on the type and severity of the illness, of course. My intuition says that for most mental illnesses, however, yes, peace is still always available. Those of us with mental illness may even have access to it more fully since we know how important it is to “overcome” the mind in order to achieve it. Just my two cents.
I can tell you this: for the last 6 years I have been suffering from paranoid schizoprenia and I know that there is no mental illness when you do know yourself as awareness. It's not that "you watch the mental ilness", the mental illness is no more there to be watched, all that remains is the watcher of the "reality" of the experience. As Osho said "If there is 10% of a Witness in you, there is 90% thoughts, if there is 90% of a Witness, there is 10% of thoughts" and so on.
Fare thee well on your journey @@user-cb3sg6lq7q
Using the analogy of the TV that we are the watcher, the TV is the medium and the channels are the mental, emotions and feelings.
I think that are mental illness that you are just in the wrong channel, like depression, anxiety, obsession etc (I say this from my own experience) that you can just watch as the 'show' goes on.
And there is other mental illnesses that the TV is all broken, like alzheimer.
Taking drugs is like you are messing up with the TV 😅 and if you overdo it, you might broken it completely.
🙏
An illusion, speaking about an illusion to an illusion?
the whole description is also an illusion , it follows from that
there is one big world but many views of the finite mind , everyone can only see the world through their eyes 😅 and yes objects DO exist don’t believe what dr spira tells you , if objects didn’t exist for example a chair then you would fall to the ground instead of sitting on the chair
From the ether perspective, the screen or ether is in between objects.
It is like a string, that illuminates both ends.
Light being a particle is a reprehensable idea since it accelerates going from water to air (law of snellius) which is impossible (law of energy conservation).
"It therefore can be no other then a disturbance of the ether"
~N. Tesla
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