I am actually shocked that the number of people who think this video is using autopilot/autobrake mode. This run was on Unbeatable difficulty, you can tell from the starting position. You will never win against AI with almost infinite grip by using autobrake/autopilot mode. There are so many corners you can take in Goliath full throttle which will trigger the autobrake system. So for those who still think this was on autobrake mode, try using it against Unbeatable AI in X-Class, see if you win, check the brake pattern, then come back to this video.
I hate racing against that thing on unbeatable. Every time I get into a straightaway, I instinctively look backwards out of fear that thing is gonna pass me 😭
meanwhile I had an ariel atom in X class tailing me at 250... ended up finishing 4 seconds behind 5 AIs just because of how BS they are - heck, I even spam-rewinded and still didn't manage to beat them
@@alolanstarboy My friend and I seem to find that the AI either has a PI boost or insane car control on unbeatable/pro. They will never really wheelspin on launch, can frequently take corners better than the player despite their line, and have a ton of more horsepower left to spare for top end speed/acceleration.
@@alolanstarboy I think there is something more going on. I was in S1900 New Corvette on a sweeping right only to be passed by a Lambo Hurracan like I was standing still. The Lambo was nowhere near me 15 seconds earlier.
4:05 this is pretty much what X class Goliath is, you’ll start to think “oh look I’m getting closer to the front” and then the car in front of you will take OFF 5:36 and here again they just hit the nos button and launch away from you 9:25 AND here again, you can see they’re already going 215+ and then the AI initiated the freaking hyperdrive launches away from him
You can actually see that the rimac infront is worse in corners but faster in long corners and straights. Its an electric car with no gears, nothing unexpected(especially considering this track is less curvy). Raced on unbeatable myself and yes its difficult but not impossible.
@@bobmartin5259 With an electric car the speed advantage should be inverted. Electric motors become less and less powerful the faster you spin them, and with no transmission to keep them in the power band, they quickly fall off past 150mph.
@@griffinfaulkner3514 well the rimac has 2 gears making it good for low and top speed. One of the fastest cars in the game if i remember correctly. But there goes much more into it ..
@@bobmartin5259 Even with that second gear, it's immediately past its torque peak and losing power. I'm honestly surprised nobody's hooked a CVT up to an electric motor to keep it at relatively low RPM, considering how hard EVs fall off towards the top end
the thing i like the most of this fh5 is that the race lines are the most important thing rn, in fh4 the tune was everything and a lot of cars actually die agaisnt others just because the tune was for straights or cornering. at this point this feels like the f1 where you can have good tunes but the best race line or using a different one because of your config can make you win, makes me really happy. i wish there is no 911 gt3 for rally again xd
I think it's mainly because all the cars are considerably grippier therefore you can juice more power without completely turning your car into a barge or a cow on the ice
I'd say it's closer to Endurance Sportscar Racing, specifically GT3 and GTE when the BoP is done well, the cars are much more even and skill matters more than the car. Even with the Sesto Elemento FE in X class sometimes it's not as easy as you'd think it would be despite how OP that car is.
I swear, the Unbeatable AI in this game are so overpowered they could probably beat an actual Formula 1 car around a track… If anything, they may actually be more OP than they were in Horizon 4!
X5 FE aka a boat on 4 wheels with the aerodynamics of a brick,is capable of handling corners quicker than a Ferrari FXX-K. Unbeatable doesn't only beat you,it beats the whole reality.
I'm guessing he prefer keyboard over controller because tapping is easier than using analog to turn. He started playing really good with keyboard after he switched his keybind (it was like on 2015 back when he made Grid 2 vids) from WASD; to A/Z (for accel/brake) and arrows to turn. I remember he said in one of his video comment section it took him some time until he found the right settings and sensitivity to play with keyboard in various racing games
Awesome drive and very clean! Really liking how the turns all string together and you can just push flat-out through most of the race. Looking forward to unlocking and racing it myself :)
Heyaaa!!! Finally found u bro.... Now I can see where u learned ur driving from... Although its an old video, but I too like ISAD very much and came here to see some tips around the track as im also attempting the unbeatable AI... I did the collosus though... This one is really tricky...
Can we just appreciate how nice they are to the AI, half those corners I would have just sent it and absolutely demolished the AI but I don't think they even touched an AI car.
And once again ISAD and the avatar, grandma's driving has dominated the Goliath 5. Who says you can give us old dogs some new tricks when the dog itself having an absolute new tricks in it's fur. And what a treat out after the Mexican grand prix. For five games. ISAD is one heck of a pilot.
as soon as I saw the nevera I knew it will be the first place in the end and the hardest to beat, I mean that car in reality can do 1/4 mile in 8.6sec, that's freaking fast,. Even in reality. those pulls it was doing behind you like a rocket was so realistic and with that supreme AI driving , dude , that was so hard and fun to watch.
Hold on. You beat the Goliath on *unbeatable* with a time of 10.32, while I struggled to beat it on *expert* with a time of 10.11. Dafuq is with the AI!!
if you still think the AI isn't OP or rubberbanded then take a close look to that Rimac (doesn't even have aero upgrades, yet manages to beat 2 Sennas and take 90% of the road flat)
This race had me pissed lol. took me several restarts + tuning jobs. I managed to get a last minute W by making the drivatar in front screw up his line.
I mean people are surprised because Unbeatable was a joke in 4 for the most part, I also see way more complaints about how the AI clearly isn't playing with the same physics as the player, this is some old school NFS level rubber banding, and it feels so stupid when you lose to that. Make the AI hard by all means, I want something tougher than 4 had to offer, but at least pretend you're playing the same game
@@sudsieskymo4287 They're referring to the fact the AI seems to have infinite grip while cornering so they never deviate from their line unless they are hit by something, basically as if they were on rails like a train
Man that turn at 10:56 through the country is a B!! I was a long way ahead in 1st unfamiliar with the last part of the track, but I knew that turn was coming up somewhere. If you take it too fast, you cannot recover! Couldn't regain my rhythm after that loss. Will be back at it tomorrow though! Still only in A class here. Nice racing! 🍻
After several Goliath loses at expert difficulty (tried to do clean race and no rewinds) I finally won but I've noticed AI wasn't as crazy as at my first races. Is it possible AI getting a bit slower after several tries at same difficulty?
What is really mind blowing is the difficulty of AI in forza horizon series, they are so damn skilled with absolutely no rubberband, if you need more challenge than online races, go for unbeatable difficulty, a good AI system is really missing in NFS games..
i never really watched your videos, just randomly when they got recomended. I stayed for the outro for the first time, and as a driveclub fan i immedately got goosebumps after hearing the song lmao
i've done it with a Koenigsegg One:1 but had to retry a lot of time ... The AI doesn't make any mistakes which is kinda frustrating. The only way to gain on them is to take risks in high speed corners where they would eventually brake a little bit while you can take them full throttle but, it's risky.
I am actually shocked that the number of people who think this video is using autopilot/autobrake mode. This run was on Unbeatable difficulty, you can tell from the starting position. You will never win against AI with almost infinite grip by using autobrake/autopilot mode. There are so many corners you can take in Goliath full throttle which will trigger the autobrake system.
So for those who still think this was on autobrake mode, try using it against Unbeatable AI in X-Class, see if you win, check the brake pattern, then come back to this video.
Can you make a tutorial on how we can get on your driving level
@@lobsterstrange this driving isnt so great man check out don juevon song
All what I can tell is other cars were just faster at the straight
@@wiktor3539 I mean don joewon song does play this game like 24/7 this is good driving
@@wiktor3539 I think this driving is good, it’s also on keyboard afaik, I don’t know if don is also keyboard, but both are good drivers
13:07 Glad to see this Mercedes is following in the footsteps of its ancestors
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
🤣🤣🤣
Grandma fucking died, horizon festival canceled indefinitely
oh my fucking god
OMG HAHAHAHAHAHA
X Class Unbeatable AI looks like the game is playing at 2x speed. Holy shit they are fast.
They basically turn corners at that speed too. It’s broken
@@not_ky nmmmm,
Probably also the fact that forza ai cheats like crazy
Challenge… is still in progress, but yo it really measures your skills. Ima get it
And that's in MPH aswell. I mean, i saw the acceleration on that thing. And it seemed like every car was doing 0 - 60 in like .5 seconds.
Sick aerial overtake at 7:56
The AI did the Paul Walker like overtake from 2 Fast 2 Furious
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 😐😐
@@lovebentuk hey atleast I pointed it out
That Bot
That car was sick, overtook everyone so aggressively and took first position
I would've lost it if that rimac kept pulling away from me the way it did😂
Broooo I was looking for this comment 😂 that rimac is crazy
It was so damn quick off of every corner. It was like it was hitting each corner at 140 and then hit 200 in less than a second
I hate racing against that thing on unbeatable. Every time I get into a straightaway, I instinctively look backwards out of fear that thing is gonna pass me 😭
It's incredible. In tension until the last second.
The cpu was pushing 250 the whole way huh 😂
They go hard in this game lmao. I can't play unbeatable yet.
@@bishopwilson1016 I get the feeling noone can except this guy. He's just phenomenal. And the whole race without any flash backs
@@Reorganiser I do only for Goliath. They cheat but they're inconsistent. The Goliath and colossus are long enough to take advantage of this.
@@Reorganiser after watching this video and playing this race just 1 hour ago i can confidently say that im a better racer or as good as him
@@Reorganiser im playing unbeatable now. It took some tuning and getting used to, but its do-able
Honestly i really like this race it's way more longer then horizon 4
Ofc it's longer, the map is larger
@obey_joker australia: visible confusion 🥴
@@LuxionXB are you sped ?
Not by a lot though, it's around 2 minutes longer than the fh4 one 😁 Now the Gauntlet, that's one hell of a long race!
@@TaIIer are YOU sped?
AI deadass gets slingshot around corners in this one, I had a venom GT tail me at 240 around corners with the S2 998 version of this
meanwhile I had an ariel atom in X class tailing me at 250...
ended up finishing 4 seconds behind 5 AIs just because of how BS they are - heck, I even spam-rewinded and still didn't manage to beat them
man playing the ai can sometimes feel like you are playing in an online lobby against a hacker lmao. they don't have to worry about game physics.
The devs were really serious about upping the A.I because that Rimac races like a pro.
Tbh they just turned the Rubberbanding slider up higher than it was in FH4 lol its more annoying than anything
@@alolanstarboy my fps drops like crazy whenever I’m
In that city area
@@alolanstarboy My friend and I seem to find that the AI either has a PI boost or insane car control on unbeatable/pro. They will never really wheelspin on launch, can frequently take corners better than the player despite their line, and have a ton of more horsepower left to spare for top end speed/acceleration.
@@alolanstarboy
I think there is something more going on. I was in S1900 New Corvette on a sweeping right only to be passed by a Lambo Hurracan like I was standing still.
The Lambo was nowhere near me 15 seconds earlier.
@@joelf1355 brooo same I was doing the Goliath and the guy in first place seemed like they had nitrous
13:07
CLR: *"That's my boy! Show em how you do it!"*
I got the reference 👉🏻
Fking mercedes CLR: Amateur!
*CLR
*clr
Hahahahaha the funny thing is as a little kid i said this to Mercedes myself and didnt know its an actual meme :D
Thats the most beautiful race i have ever played.... astonishing
4:05 this is pretty much what X class Goliath is, you’ll start to think “oh look I’m getting closer to the front” and then the car in front of you will take OFF
5:36 and here again they just hit the nos button and launch away from you
9:25 AND here again, you can see they’re already going 215+ and then the AI initiated the freaking hyperdrive launches away from him
You can actually see that the rimac infront is worse in corners but faster in long corners and straights. Its an electric car with no gears, nothing unexpected(especially considering this track is less curvy). Raced on unbeatable myself and yes its difficult but not impossible.
@@bobmartin5259 With an electric car the speed advantage should be inverted. Electric motors become less and less powerful the faster you spin them, and with no transmission to keep them in the power band, they quickly fall off past 150mph.
@@griffinfaulkner3514 well the rimac has 2 gears making it good for low and top speed. One of the fastest cars in the game if i remember correctly. But there goes much more into it ..
@@bobmartin5259 Even with that second gear, it's immediately past its torque peak and losing power. I'm honestly surprised nobody's hooked a CVT up to an electric motor to keep it at relatively low RPM, considering how hard EVs fall off towards the top end
@@griffinfaulkner3514 low and mid acceleration on a electric street car will be better anyways
the thing i like the most of this fh5 is that the race lines are the most important thing rn, in fh4 the tune was everything and a lot of cars actually die agaisnt others just because the tune was for straights or cornering.
at this point this feels like the f1 where you can have good tunes but the best race line or using a different one because of your config can make you win, makes me really happy.
i wish there is no 911 gt3 for rally again xd
You mean the F1 before hybrids right?
I think it's mainly because all the cars are considerably grippier therefore you can juice more power without completely turning your car into a barge or a cow on the ice
I'd say it's closer to Endurance Sportscar Racing, specifically GT3 and GTE when the BoP is done well, the cars are much more even and skill matters more than the car. Even with the Sesto Elemento FE in X class sometimes it's not as easy as you'd think it would be despite how OP that car is.
"That Rimac just f***eds off" - JC. That car straight line speed was just unbelievable
I swear, the Unbeatable AI in this game are so overpowered they could probably beat an actual Formula 1 car around a track…
If anything, they may actually be more OP than they were in Horizon 4!
The X5 FE is basically a formula 1 car
@@exstaticzzz9272 Sesto Elemento FE as well
That's why it's called unbeatable
@@kak8895 Yeah, they don’t call it Unbeatable for nothing…
X5 FE aka a boat on 4 wheels with the aerodynamics of a brick,is capable of handling corners quicker than a Ferrari FXX-K. Unbeatable doesn't only beat you,it beats the whole reality.
I hate bots in this game, they always divebombing like crazy
I'm glad it doesn't happen only with me
how can you have the cleanest trajectories AND playing keyboard ?! I don't understand, you're simply too good.
The dude has honed his skill to an artistic level; imagine how good he would be with an analogue keyboard holy shit
I'm guessing he prefer keyboard over controller because tapping is easier than using analog to turn. He started playing really good with keyboard after he switched his keybind (it was like on 2015 back when he made Grid 2 vids) from WASD; to A/Z (for accel/brake) and arrows to turn.
I remember he said in one of his video comment section it took him some time until he found the right settings and sensitivity to play with keyboard in various racing games
Keyboard is easier
Awesome drive and very clean! Really liking how the turns all string together and you can just push flat-out through most of the race. Looking forward to unlocking and racing it myself :)
Heyaaa!!! Finally found u bro.... Now I can see where u learned ur driving from...
Although its an old video, but I too like ISAD very much and came here to see some tips around the track as im also attempting the unbeatable AI...
I did the collosus though... This one is really tricky...
@@benjackson6260 nice to see you again Ben! Yah I actually did a replicate video of this, but ISAD is wayyy better 😄
@@StriderZYT yep Grandma always knows better...
Can we just appreciate how nice they are to the AI, half those corners I would have just sent it and absolutely demolished the AI but I don't think they even touched an AI car.
Very impessive driving, the ai almost had you at the end.Well done.
And once again ISAD and the avatar, grandma's driving has dominated the Goliath 5. Who says you can give us old dogs some new tricks when the dog itself having an absolute new tricks in it's fur. And what a treat out after the Mexican grand prix. For five games. ISAD is one heck of a pilot.
Next time you're having a stroke get off youtube and call an ambulance.
Wtf did I just read
@@FNKY767 it's not that difficult
Damn, the straight line speed on the other cars is insane
as soon as I saw the nevera I knew it will be the first place in the end and the hardest to beat, I mean that car in reality can do 1/4 mile in 8.6sec, that's freaking fast,. Even in reality. those pulls it was doing behind you like a rocket was so realistic and with that supreme AI driving , dude , that was so hard and fun to watch.
I like that the Goliath is considered a Horizon Mexico race and not an Apex one with the start line
Nice dude, that was awesome and really intense to watch!
The way you looked behind the whole time at the finish stretch, as the Rimac closed in...
Whew.
The start of this race is so freaking hard. I keep falling off the bridge at 2:54
That RIMAC's got some serious hax going on, there's no way it can accelerate THAT fast.
IRL it’s the fastest accelerating car you can buy.
Dude, my rimac build is insane, 1st gear is fast but bruh, when it hits 2nd gear it's like warp speed.
What a mad lad, beating unbeatable drivatars with a keyboard
Patience at its best not having fastest cars on the straight but make up for the corners
@Hank MacBurger #94 that the worst name uh can refer to mi rn
Hold on. You beat the Goliath on *unbeatable* with a time of 10.32, while I struggled to beat it on *expert* with a time of 10.11. Dafuq is with the AI!!
the most enjoyable 12 minutes of my day
Nice profile picture
@@BigBoyz33 Seems like Rei Ayanami from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
if you still think the AI isn't OP or rubberbanded then take a close look to that Rimac (doesn't even have aero upgrades, yet manages to beat 2 Sennas and take 90% of the road flat)
It clearly got beat in the corners but beat the sennas because it takes straights far better than them
This race had me pissed lol. took me several restarts + tuning jobs. I managed to get a last minute W by making the drivatar in front screw up his line.
This car actually doesn't suit this track very well because of its lack of speed, whereas you managed to beat them all. Well done!
That's some Bad Ass Racing Buddy, great job, those cars are fast.
Rimac was like " I AM SPEED".. great run
Immersive gameplay as always
The sound while watching this in 2x speed gives goosebump
without a doubt, one of the best races on your channel
People: **selects Unbeatable difficulty**
**AI is unbeatable**
Also people: **Pikachu surprise face**
very original comment, champ
never gets old
I mean people are surprised because Unbeatable was a joke in 4 for the most part, I also see way more complaints about how the AI clearly isn't playing with the same physics as the player, this is some old school NFS level rubber banding, and it feels so stupid when you lose to that. Make the AI hard by all means, I want something tougher than 4 had to offer, but at least pretend you're playing the same game
It's really amazing. You never seem to make mistakes.
What a beautiful car,the best AMG👍
the rimac in this race felt like an aimbot in a shooter game.
That Rimac is no joke. Holy sheet...
INSANE
The Sesto Lambo kicks ass on unbeatable difficulty. But man those AI drivers be bolting through those corners!!
Folks that why we all love Forza Horizon series, the game genuinely gets improvement. And damn that Rimac gave me PTSD
I'm so ready for the "AI on rails" era to end... I was hoping a little more from 5 honesty, in terms of AI.
Just cause I'm curious, is there something specific you're referencing by "AI on rails"?
@@sudsieskymo4287 Rubber banding, physics ignoring AI
@@sudsieskymo4287 They're referring to the fact the AI seems to have infinite grip while cornering so they never deviate from their line unless they are hit by something, basically as if they were on rails like a train
God damn that AMG One sounds hot as hell
bit inaccurate tho 😕
And it’s engine is based of the Mercedes W07 F1 car.
Just like how the F50 GT’s engine is based of the Ferrari 641 F1 car.
@@TheBlueWanderer2000 not just like, in case of F50 the engine was far more different from the F1, than it is with AMG-One.
That one moment you realize your friend who is a "goat" at forza has been using auto drive the whole time
Is this a reference to AI being fast?
Lewis Hamilton at 13:06 : Bono, my car's gone
My PC overheated just watching the video. Nice drive mate, incredible.. also love the 'attempt' clip
Man that turn at 10:56 through the country is a B!! I was a long way ahead in 1st unfamiliar with the last part of the track, but I knew that turn was coming up somewhere. If you take it too fast, you cannot recover! Couldn't regain my rhythm after that loss. Will be back at it tomorrow though! Still only in A class here. Nice racing! 🍻
That Rimac is too OP on the staright bits!
3:12 to 3:20, those flying branches tho.
The final race should have been against dom with los bandeleros playing in the background
After seeing that Rimac, a certain quote of Jeremy Clarkson came to my mind. And we all know that quote.
Look at that Nevera go! Damn
I'm really going to enjoy those AI when they will cut my Internet soon 😆 also the slipstream is really there
What a raceeeee!!!!🔥🔥🔥
Amazing race man I love it 🎉
Dude, if you still play with a keyboard, you are utterly insane and also an absolute legend!!!!
Goliath is so pog
U don’t suck at driving. Great driving, sticking on the road, great comers and trying not to ram ever race insight👌🏾
This road in mexico should be used as a motorsport track watching race cars floor it
Best Goliath race I’ve ever seen 👐
Really satisfying to watch... Holy shite!
That rimac was creeping up on ya
The back of that Benz kinda looks like the Porsche 918spyder look closely
13:06 AMG One: Sorry it is just a family tradition
By far my favorite car to use for hyper car races
Damn the AMG One really sounds like an F1 car
the best race i've never watch
Very relaxing!!
He’s driving better and smoother with a keyboard than me driving with a controller…
That Rimac is nuts
this is just beautful driving really insane
Maakaro has my respect... what a race
Wow! Great driving bro👌
After several Goliath loses at expert difficulty (tried to do clean race and no rewinds) I finally won but I've noticed AI wasn't as crazy as at my first races. Is it possible AI getting a bit slower after several tries at same difficulty?
Its just super inconsistent thats all
I notice the unbeatable ai on the Goliath when taking the Sesto Elemento FE fail a lot when they take a tight turn, making the event very easy to win.
What is really mind blowing is the difficulty of AI in forza horizon series, they are so damn skilled with absolutely no rubberband, if you need more challenge than online races, go for unbeatable difficulty, a good AI system is really missing in NFS games..
That rimac was a literal cheat code
we need a race with the AMG ONE, Valkyrie, Valkyrie AMR pro, Sesto FE (all maxed)
i never really watched your videos, just randomly when they got recomended. I stayed for the outro for the first time, and as a driveclub fan i immedately got goosebumps after hearing the song lmao
I wouldn't putting this video on repeat
Stunning skills but also wicked car
Amazing video!!
It's like The Grand Tour from Rivals
how lateral Gs this car make, it turn so tight. so satisfying
man they really buffed the AI's this time
i've done it with a Koenigsegg One:1 but had to retry a lot of time ... The AI doesn't make any mistakes which is kinda frustrating. The only way to gain on them is to take risks in high speed corners where they would eventually brake a little bit while you can take them full throttle but, it's risky.
*Dude those AI are so damn fast*
It's nice to see the AI catch up bullshit mechanic is still present, they are on rails and just do speeds that a purely ridiculous on unbeatable.
They should give you like 5 super wheelspins if you manage to win at that difficulty
They should put the current car as your first choice of vehicle. Scrolling to it isn’t great
Damn! Nice race buddy
Your driving was great