this board is awesome. i weigh 205 lbs, and am 5'11'' in height. i live in orange county and this board was a step down for me as i transitioned from an 8 foot mini mal. i picked up a 6'6'' at around 46 liters. this board has given me a ton of confidence, and i am able to trim on the wave as well as do some cutbacks -- it has taught me to ride more off the tail as said in this video. i have been riding it for about 5 months now and its the only board that i have been using. i am looking at a 5'11 seaside to add to my quiver.. any thoughts?
Will Davis Hey will. Good to hear the feedback and glad your stoked on your greedy beaver. I know a few people riding it as a one board quiver and really liking it. Yeah the seaside is awesome and yeah you could go the 6'0" don't want to confuse you but if your feeling brave you could go the 5''11" depends on how you feel about your beaver. I have a 6'4" beaver and a 5'11" seaside. The seaside I would say catches waves as easily as the greedy if not better at a couple of litres down. Ironically I could go a size down on the seaside (bearing in mind that's just a 1.5 litre drop though and I might like my greedy up at the 6'6" as a bit more of a cheater option for when waves are smaller and weaker. Go with your gut though. If you feel like you would have been ok with a 6'4" greedy you coild definitely go a 5'11" seaside if you like the volume on your greedy the seaside will likely paddle as well if not better. Shorter takes a bit of trim away open water but it's a great wave catcher. In terms of the board 100% great board and everyone should have a fish :) and it's a magic fish. Go for the split keel fins 👍
Got a 6'4" greedy beaver and just bought the seaside at 5'9" not been out on it yet as only got it yesterday but tried a demo at 5'8 which went so well , went for that bit more volume with the 5'9 ...
@@justsurfinwilldo1506 what up man. i actually got the 5'10'' seaside at 39 liters.. i am 5'11 and around 212 lbs. the seaside is a dope board i love it. it goes well with my style which is not aggressive.
@@SlickWillie hi Will , seems we have a similar surfing style and a great choice of boards ,at 175lbs I probably could of stayed with the 5'8 seaside but jumping from the greedy beaver and as our waves are never consistently good I thought I'd stay safe with the 5'9 ,still not been out on it yet ,as always you buy a new board and the waves go pants 😂 enjoy the rest of the summer man 🤙
Hello, have you surfed the Twice Baked? Torn between a Greedy Beaver and a Twice Baked, not surfed either though. Looking for a good all rounder up to head high, I'm 6ft and about 13 stone
Hi Sorry for the late reply just finding the few messages that slipped through the net unanswered. Ok so 2 quite different boards for my money. I havent ridden the twice baked but had a lot of potato's over the years and been really happy with them the Sweet and Baked spent about 10 years combined in my quiver I rekon. Greedy is more of an all rounder, tail is a more performance less speed generating oriented but still excellent board Potato is much more the deliberately wide tail and mid flat rocket quad board so depends on what your looking for. 6ft 13 stone your going to be looking at totally different lengths to hit your volume too. Maybe some more feedback on what your ability is and what you want to achieve. 6'10" greedy would be my thoughts for an all rounder to make your life easy.
Hey mate, i love the mics, all the other reviews I've watched so far I had difficulty hearing. Thanks for the videos! I would like to know your opinion on sizing, i am thinking to get this board, i am that beginner intermediate that have been riding a 7'6" 54L for a year and ready to something that allows for more agressive surfing yet not a full shortboard, think naturally my body wants to go more vertical, not super rad but not too horizontal either. I am 5'10" and 155 all suit up. I was thinking 6 or 6'2", would that be too far, too little? I just want easy paddling but not be burned after 3 duck dives. I mostly ride 1-6 foot waves but not very punchy when they go higher. What are your thoughts?
Cheers mate. Appreciate the feedback. Yeah mate I think 6’2” is probably a good call, you could even go as far as 6’4”and should still be ok to duck dive it but yeah for your weight 6’2” sounds good. You could always go for a different board with a little less nose width and a little more tail width if you are concerned. The tail is fairly tight, but the nose is quite big on these boards. That is part of what makes them such a good all rounder though. I know a guy locally that’s had a lot of boards and he got the 6’2” and that’s all he rides now. They will handle a good range of waves so yeah I think 6’2” is probably a good call for your weight. Still gonna give you 40 Litres. You will have to adjust your paddle in to be a little more in the pocket compared to your bigger board but that’s all part of the progression. Hope that helps. Cheers.
Sounds much better, it’s the first time even I’ve turned my volume down on the iPad watching one of your reviews! I have a 6.4 Love Child and I imagine they are quite similar apart from its PU and the LC board dents really easy with compression marks which I don’t like that much.
Si Timo thanks mate. Appreciate the feedback. Good to hear from someone who has a lovechild. I really like that kind of shape and being able to go single fin or 2+1 is really fun. Yeah that's always been an issue with some boards from that manufacturer. I don't buy them anymore but they do have some great shapes and they ride pretty good plus you often see them on special so sometimes there a really good option.
Easy is up is more rocker but also a bit more even template. Beaver is very much big nose pulled in tail easy up is a bit more balanced. You dont have to go easy up you can just go lazy boy / toy and now they have replaced that with the lazy toy 2 which looks great. Depends on what wave range you want to cover I guess.I bet the Lazy toy 2 is a beauty for small to medium waves. Beaver you can ride a good rang of waves on as long as their not super hollow. Could almost be ridden as a one board quiver.
Howdy GO SURF, thanks for the handy reviews. Looking for some advice. I'm an intermediate surfer 5'10" 80 kg and ride a 5'8" Seaside (love it) and a 5'9" Baked Potato. Usually surf average NZ east coast small weak waves. I have a longboard but don't really enjoy logging. A used 6'2" Beaver has popped up but unfortunately no try before buy. Is it worth looking at the Beaver if it meant selling the log an potentially the BP? I understand the BP and Beaver are apples & oranges. I find there's a bit of overlap with the BP and Seaside... BP is a great groveler but at 45l it's pretty chunky for such a short rail line... I do like it a lot however! Is the Beaver any good in 6s period 0.5 m wind slop? :) or tiny peelers ha. Cheers!
Hi Matt. My personal opinion... The greedy isn't really a grovel board unless your gonna get it in like a 6'6"-6'10" then you would probably find it fat in the rails again. The tail is pretty pulled in.. I have a 6'4" and would probably call it more trying to be a one board quiver than anything else. Maybe you have the wrong longboard. I really the lost Bean Bag for groveling myself. Don't even consider my seaside much good for a grovel board and i'm up at 5'11" in that. I think if your weaker east coast breaks your cheating yourself out of a lit of waves if you dont have a longboard personally. I like the bean bag for onshore low period slops and the longboard for clean or pretty straight liney stuff that would just pass you buy on anything that's not a longboard. You could get something that's just not loggy. I personally dont get on with really loggy boards that just suck into the pocket. I dont have the skills for them and really dont enjoy them.. Something like a Special T might be worth a look at of you want to compare to what you have. As I say, heavy bellie bottomed Loggy nose riders I dont enjoy either if that's what you have. I dont know if you would like a beaver in small and junky stuff though. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Thanks for your honest opinion! Yes, I think the greedy beaver is probably too many compromises given there's a couple of boards that already cover a decent range of conditions. My longboard is 9'1" pintail with modern-ish features (definitely not a heavy belly bottom but is quite heavy and has a snub nose if I could ever get toes up there) - probably best to keep it like you say for the super small clean days or try a different longboard. The potato gets into some really small crappy waves and is surprisingly maneuverable...
@@mattsmith464 yeah sounds like your pretty well set up with some of the better boards available for what we ride. The beaver is a really cool board but I would suggest it for either an upsized / oversized all rounder or as a one board quiver for average waves in the right dimensions. For people that have quivers boards like beavers do most things pretty good but aren't mind blowing at the extremes 👍 longboard sounds decent too. Maybe getting a thunderbolt longboard might be a better way to go with your quiver give the older log a lighter more modern upgrade 👌😉🤙
Hi love ur reviews, im currently riding a 6"8 Dominator which is looking a bit old, how does the greedy beaver compare considering im 59 years old and only started surfing 9 years ago ?
Kevin Carter hi mate thanks for the feedback. Ok so that's potentially quite a question in this case .. two big questions would be how much do you weigh and this this going to be a bit of a one shoetboards quiver for you. Having ridden both I would say they're very different ideas. The beaver has all it's meat up front the Dom in the back. I would suspect a Dom would get slippery when ridden super high volume to your weight. The greedy could be hard to duck dive if your light. Both great boards. If it's a one board quiver and you don't get super critical or ride anything that's too hollow or too much over head high the greedy could be great for you. It does upsize quite well. There could be some other options out they're for you too but from the general sound I would say you would very likely like the beaver. Listening to the review of everything apeals to you it should definitely be on your shortlist. Especially for average guys like us getting a bit older. PS good on you for still being on something shoter at nearly 60 I hope I can too. We have some local guys 60s and even 70s still going really well. It's very encouraging for people like me feels like we could hopefully he as lucky 👍
Kevin Carter yeah so same volume is about the same length in either board. So ask yourself if you would be happy with a bigger nose and a little more cruisy ride (though probably no more cruisy off the tail) will definitely give you a bit more of an all rounder but they are different boards the beaver is heaps of fun.
@@lawson45uk Thanks for that, im about 90kg and 6 not tall but hoping to lose about 8-10 kg soon but I refuse to give up my beer. most times I ride a long board (Firewire crossfire) but living in South Oz most of the time have very average waves but occasionally head to the west coast of South oz and attempt some more challenging and bigger waves, I have learned to hold my breath for a very long time ha ha. Thanks so much for the feed back think I will look into a 6 10' beaver and still hang on to my grubby looking Dom
Kevin Carter ha ha fair enough mate :) I had the 6'10" and it was a heck of a lot of fun so hopefully you will enjoy it. If your heading away for good waves some time. Check out something like the Annesley psycho fun had one of those in a 6'8" would make a very usable step up for a regular guy good finish and cheap over your way. 👍
Recently got a Greedy Beaver, after having my eye on it for a while Your review is spot on. And I am glad I volumed it up I think this will become my preferred everyday board. Heaps of fun and can handle a good range of conditions
Great :-) I love to hear when people make a choice that their really stoked with that's what it's all about. the Beaver is a really well thought out board and does a lot very well especially if your sensible enough to be generous with yourself :-)
@@lawson45uk I was originally aiming for a 5’10 to 6’0 because I prefer shorter boards. Even the 5’10 is more literage than I usually ride. But I am glad I sized it up - as you say in the video
Great review! I was wondering if this can be ridden on twin keel fins? What is your insight on riding it as a twin? I have a 6'2 GB and I'm 5'10, 75 kgs. Thanks in advance!
Hi. Yeah you can ride any board as any fin set up you like but obviously it’s not always going to be optimal abs sometimes won’t work well at all. If a board we deigned as a twin or keel the fin placement would be different from a stock 5 fin set up. Saying that I think in theory the beaver has a tail that’s pulled in enough it shouldn’t be too bad to try as a twin and I have heard of a lot or people liking twin and trailer. Something like MR or power twins so definitely worth a try. Costs little or nothing to try if you already have fins. You might find it works great or not or you enjoy it for a smaller or different type of wave. Let me know how you get on. Cheers.
Hi mate, not sure if you still get to read this, but after a few months with a 6'10" SSaB which I got thanks to your reviews/feedback, now itching to try even shorter. I'm mid-40s, 5'7" and 64kg (gained some weight there!), and was looking at a 5'10" greedy beaver (34L) initially. still planning to surf this on knee-high to shoulder/head-high waves, mostly beach breaks where i'm in, and just want another option aside from the SSaB when I want to switch things around. thoughts on that? also looked at other boards like the twice baked (can probably go as low as 5'5" on that one, given the volume there), or the tomo revo, but not really sure which direction to go towards and the greedy beaver seemed like a safe bet. nowhere to try these boards here, so really have to purchase one (and just resell if it's really not for me - something I'm trying to avoid) Any thoughts welcome!
Hi Nic. Yeah so to be honest I would generally recommend other boards for for those grovel sized waves.. The beaver is a great board so you could still consider it it's just that for smaller more grovelly waves it's still quite a narrow board and pulled in tail. A Twice Baked could be good, even better a new sweet potato for waves under head high unless they are pretty round and hollow and. The potato has a super flat rocker. Just depends on what kind of performance you would like to see out of a board too. Have you considered a Seaside at all too they work in smaller waves as well as having some range. Your pretty light so you would probably be ok on 35 ish litres if your paddle game and surfing is ok. You could pump it up for the grovel factor if you like but if you want to get to the more performance end your probably good around that 35 litre mark. Tommo could be ok if you can go short enough never really got on with Tommos myself but I have heaps of mates that love them. Think my problem is I can't ride them small enough for the size there meant to be and our waves are too weak I find them all short and narrow. You could look at an OG puddle Jumper too. If your under head and grovelly waves the potatoe family is a good call seaside if you want a bit fishy and a little more range to play with. What do you rekon?
@@lawson45uk thanks for the input as usual, dave, really appreciate it! I did consider the Seaside, but considering I have that 6'10" seaside and beyond, was thinking I wanted to try another shape if I were to get a shorter board. to be honest, just thinking of 35L is getting me nervous, with the 47L of the SSaB the lowest I've gone.. haha waves here also weak most of the time so from your comments, the revo might be tough too. probably going to be the twice baked or sweet potato then, although that puddle jumper looks good too. not rushing into it, will keep playing with the SSaB first and see if I can actually start riding it rail to rail and maybe my preferences start to change. will keep you posted what I eventually get. Thanks again!
Nice review. I've been surfing for a year anda I'm thinking to buy this board. I’m Beg/Int 5’9 for 175lbs, with 39 years. what size do you recomend? I live in Portugal and I can get a lot of range of waves. I was thinking oh a 6'6, but your review made me consider to a 6´4. Can you give me your opinion please? Thanks a lot
Joao Vieira hey buddy. Yeah the beaver scales up pretty good so you would be fine on either. The waves are pretty good in Portugal from what I hear so I would say the 6'4" should be plenty for you myself. Depends on what your used to, what waves your riding and what your looking to achieve but in terms of performance and still be very usable for your weight the 6'4" should be fine. If your only a few months into your surfing and not surfing waves overhead and want to make it easy the 6'6" would be ok too but your probably going to have more fun and more performance out of the 6'4". Hope that helps. If you want to make life easy and catch a few more waves while you progress you will have no problem with the 6'6" either. Just be a bit less sensitive. I would still consider a 6'6" myself too to be fair so same decision making and me. Again the beaver I could ride 6'2" -6'8" and not have any of them they would just behave differently and for different waves. 6'4" definitely be easier to get under waves too
@@lawson45uk Thank for your help. I've tried a 6`8 greedy beaver and liked a lot. But now a friend of mine just bought a dominator and loves it. In your experienced opinion, what do you think is the best board for a beginner? Greedy or dominator? Thanks and great Christmas to you too
Joao Vieira hey mate. Can't remember if I replied or not sorry abs hard to see on my phone. So both great boards both very different too. The dominator you don't want to over volume so probably 6'4" max for you but that's not going to be quite as easy to ride as the beaver. It's a great board for starting to learn to shortboard though. I had one for a a few years back in the day when they first came out and really loved it. They can get a little slippery in the tail sometimes but great board for people to have as a first small to medium wave short board as well as just a good board for anything not too big. It's a much smaller nose though so will have less paddle power and less stability but it's still very user friendly. I think the beaver is Maybe a better choice for you at this stage myself but both at great boards. Saying that for me there are also better boards than the dominator at what that does these days too. You could have something with a slightly wider nose less rocker and the same volume if you wanted to but the dominator is really nice and pretty easy to ride. Hope that helps. Sorry if I already answered and let me know what you get and how you like it. Cheers.
Hello buddy, I am surfing out of Stockholm, Sweden. Its a bit choppy and the water is brackish hence a bit lower buoyancy. I am 5’11 and 172 lbs(28 y/o), been riding this decathlon 7’2 50 L hard top for awhile. Catching quite small waves with relative ease. Would you recon I could go with the 6’6? Would consider myself quite strong and fit. How would this board pair L to L with the decathlon board in terms of catch ability? Would it be about the same even though I would give up 3,5 L with the 6’6 beaver? I want high wave counts Any answers would be greatly appreciated, you are a hero answering all the comments here :) BR, Rasmus
Hi Rasmus. Yeah I think this would be a good progression board for you. Get you a more performance but still get a good wave count and plenty versatile. I'm assuming the Decathlon is a foamy? Guessing hard top would be eps core and stringers like a foamy but less spongey top and better rails? Sorry i'm not up with foamies. Extra Length and being a foam board will probably be easy to paddle but the Beaver you will likely be able to duck dive and also be able to kick with your feet as well as paddle with your arms so that can help close the gap and to be fair if your young and still progressing the aim is the use that experience you are gaining to put yourself closer to the pocket allowing you to loose a bit of volume and length so I dont think you will have any issues. I'm sure you would really enjoy the board and it's gonna give you more of a proper rail and fins to work with so yeah I would say it's a good one board quiver for a progressing surfer for sure. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Thanks for the answer!! It is actually an epoxy, brand Olaian, suprisingly good for being decathlon(atleast compared with the once I rented). Been surfing since 2018 mostly on vacations in Portugal, Bali, Sri Lanka etc(used to live in Spain). So now I am trying Swedish surf. I am currently practising the cut back so I am looking for a bit more responive board but still has that volume for the Swedish surf. I am confident I will buy a beaver, it is a great board for the Swedish surf conditions. A lot of people I met in the water have them here. Now I am just trying to figure out the lenght of the board.
@@rasmuseduards7437 Nice mate, sounds like you have gotten teh surfing bug and advancing well. Yeah I think if I had another I would get the 6'6" too I had the 6'4" but that didn't paddle heaps better than some of my hybrid boards and the tails are really quite pulled in so a 6'4" is probably more like a 6'0" with a bit of extra board on the tail where others would have already finished getting narrow :-) I had the biggest one too had heaps of fun on that but very big rail volume to get in the water. Good sign if locals have it and like it too. Can't underestimate importance of a board suiting your local conditions. Your weight and age you would probably be good on the 6'4 too but I think if you stick with the 6'6" you will still be good for the smaller days
Hi Mathew. Nah I sold this one a good while back but great all round board of especially for people looking for a one board quiver for sensible sized waves. Most people seem to like them with performers quad personally but thruster too. I actually didn't find the board to be too fussy about fins either. The AM large thruster and quad also worked fine for me. Could probably be ok twin and trailer too if you wanted to mix it up in small waves
@@matthewbosley5547 All good mate. Lol yeah I would like to have a crak on the Moe. Shame we don't get demmo boards or someone leasing me have a go. I think they would be a good all robder. Real watersports over on the us have a great review on the Moe. I'm looking at the skibdog ova. Hopefully here in a few weeks. Cheers.
Hi great review, this board looks perfect for me and UK waves, just can't decide whether to get 6'4" or 6'6" I'm 6ft 84kgs. How easy is the 6'6" to duck dive? Is there much difference between either board? My current boards are 38ltr 8yr old shortboard or a 70ltr longboard so not sure what a 40+ ltr board is like to get out back, many thanks and great channel 👍😊
Hey buddy. Sorry it took a while been flat out making boards. Yeah being a bit taller you should be ok to sink either. I could actually sink the 6'10" but only just.. It's not going to duck dive like a short board though.. The 6'4" is actually very responsive off the tail and will definitely be manageable for most conditions. the 6'6" will grovel a bit more but will be on hte more difficult side to sink in a decent wave.. It's not a really wide board in the middle so that helps. Guess that is the thing with the greed and all do it all boards though nothing really "Does it all" the Beaver is super versatile but bigger nose and smaller tail can be a drawback too... If you want it for smaller waves maybe go the 6'6" if you want an all rounder go the 6'4" there all going to paddle easier and go better than a short board. Downside is obviously they get a bit harder to manage for duck dives especially up at 6'6" There are other boards you could consider to but if you have a longboard and want a one hybrid quiver and dont ride really big waves 6'4" Greedy definitely a great choice. Hope that helps. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Hi, thanks, thats a fantastic reply and great advice, cheers for your help, I think I'll look at trying to get hold of a 6'4". Many thanks, appreciate that 😊👍
Your 8ft?.. wow... really 73KG yeah the 6'4" probably good for anything over a couple of ft for you (about chest high up) I dont think you would really grovel on really poor waves on very many short boards.. Your into something more like a bean bag or a longboard for under 2ft in the waves I surf. Hope that helps
@@lawson45uk Thanks for the prompt reply! I meant 6 feet. Do you think maybe a Lost hydra or Bean bag would be more versatile? I live in Greece so waves are never that crazy. They go up to 6-7ft on the absolute best of days.
@@Dr.Tsaou_ Hey mate. Sounds like you get pretty similar waves to here. Nah the Beaver would be more versatile than the Hydra or a Bean bag.. I just think there are not many short boards you can really really grovel on all that successfully. I think the Beaver does do a bit of everything pretty well it's very responsive surfed off the tail but doesn't have a massive tail too. The creeper would have also been a great option if still available. depends on your level of surfing too. If your or a pretty normal surfer that doesn't get out all the time and looking for a one board quiver I think the beaver would be good.
Thanasis Tsaousis cheers mate. Happy to help. Same with fins If you need some advice just sing out and let me know how you go with the board you get. Always good to hear how people like boards 👍
Dont have a water hog sorry but I do like them. There good on volume and good value in a PU and I notice that in some other techs they have a single and side bites which could be really good as the drag on a thruster only option isnt always good depending on the waves your in. Paddles and performs well with a good wave range though. You could go from learner to always in the quiver for a board that's just for having fun in average waves. Cheers.
1nmatt hey mate I fluctuate but was up at around 87kg when I reviewed this got down to about 80kgs for a while. It Depends on the volume your comfy with and what your looking for. The 6'4" definitely performs quite well. If your over say 90kg or want to make life easy and have a big wave count you could go the 6'6" if your lighter than say 84 and your comfy with a 40-42 litre hybrid board the 6'4" will be fine. Its pretty good but I didn't personally think its got a huge amount of extra wave catching ability for its shape of thats any help. The tail is so narrow there isn't as much to pick the tail up to get you into a fat wave hut it's got great speed and also very nimble once your going. Hope that helps.
Nice review! I really like how you explain everything clearly its very easy to understand :) I'm currently looking for a new board and looking for some advice on the size/type of board, maybe you can help me out? Up until this point I've surfed only a few weeks a year for about 8 years because I live far from the sea.. I would say I am in between beginner and intermediate level, still learning to do better turns and learn cutbacks and snaps, and also to pop up quickly. I am going to focus on surfing for the next 6 months so I would like a board that can help me progress in this period. I'm 6'2 - 72kg. I've surfed a lot on minimals and egg type boards. I've also tried a few hybrid boards like fishes, my most recent one was a 5'11-36L retro twin, but that feels like a step to far for me because I end up catching a lot less waves and thus progress slow.. I've also been looking at the Seaside but maybe the hybrid/shorter boards are not for me just yet, what do you think? I need a board that will help me catch more waves while still being able to learn more intermediate moves. The Greedy Beaver seems nice for me and I like that its in a durable construction. I've also been looking at boards from Lost like the Beanbag and the Pickup stick but I'm not sure about the Lib construction/price. Also really like the firewire Gofish and Seaside but that may be a step too far for me at this point.. Durability and the ability for me to progress are my two main criteria. I surf for fun 100% I have no ambition to compete but I do really want to get better at surfing. Which board do you think is good for my situation? Any advice/suggestions on sizing is also greatly appreciated!
Koen Thoolen Hey Koen. Thanks heaps for the positive feedback. Glad you enjoy the reviews.. Sounds like you really want an all rounder that’s a one board quiver but will also allow you to progress well.. The greedy could definitely be a good choice as per the review it does most things pretty well will just be the duck diving that is a little more difficult but being tall you would probably be fine as you will be further up the board anyways.. I wouldn’t discount boards like the Seaside either though. Something like a 5’10” / 5’11” Seaside would paddle and catch waves quite differently to a 36Litre retro fish, especially if it’s Poly vs the Eposy boards. Seaside has a fairly good wave range and is pretty stable for such a short board too. I would say my 5’11” Probably paddles and catches waves as good if not better than the Greedy with less volume and length to manage. Good thing for you is your pretty tall and light so your not going to struggle as much with longer boards so something like a midlength egg type shape will also be good for you if your concerned about getting less waves.. Sounds like you have experience with these too. It is tough to learn to get going on a much shorter board if your not getting out at leas every couple of weeks.Lib techs are pretty much the most durable board on the market and they feel pretty good too so definitely a good option. Maybe a pick up stick but don’t know much about them. Funnelator could be good too.. The standard bean gag might top out for you but the lib tech version might be ok with the step tail and lower volume but there really made for waves under head high ideally. Not sure what waves or how big the waves are you surf. Seaside and Geedy B Beaver would definitely be well up the list if your looking at the shorter end as well as the mid lengths. You could look at a smooth operator / one bad egg / crowd killer type board too. Timber Tech is durable but you have to be careful not to get water in them. Had a few longboards and 2 short and only had one problem but any sand outs dings etc can suck water into the wood pretty easily. Thunderbolt is another really good technology. Not cheap but rides good and will last.something like the slotmachine.. Can’t get them here unfortunately. Maybe come back to me with your thoughts will see if we can narrow it down. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Thanks for you reply, your advice is really helpful! To be a bit more specific: So far I’ve surfed mainly sloppy summer surf (beach/reef breaks) in France/Portugal up to about head high. I’d say I am pretty comfortable in shoulder high waves as far as catching them, but still relatively inexperienced in doing consistent turns/cutbacks/snaps. I am also not yet comfortable surfing overhead waves - I have tried it, but didn’t manage to catch a lot of waves. I’ve surfed all kinds of softtops/high volume boards down to 6’0. I do notice with most 6’0 boards that I am not completely stable popping up. Maybe because I still have to get used to the size. I also experience that with my current board, the 5’11 Pyzel Astro Twin (in Poly) at 36L. I can paddle the board and get out the back with it but catching waves is difficult for me. I have trouble positioning myself at the peak or the right take off point for this board. When I do take off, I manage to pop up but my popup isn’t that fast yet so I don’t get a lot of time on the actual wave to practice turns etc.. With longer boards/or boards with more volume it seems more forgiving for catching waves. Overall I feel like this current PU board is beyond my skill level and so I felt like I needed to take a step back. The Seaside is a board that I have been looking at for a long time because I really like the shape and the “surf style” it can offer. I do want to progress to surfing shorter boards and these hybrid shapes like the seaside. I was actually planning on buying a Seaside for this period of progression but after my most recent surftrip I thought maybe that board is also beyond my current level, because its also short like my current board. However, as you describe it, it seems like it could still be a good board for me at 5’10/11. I do plan on spending 1-3 months in Portugal to surf 4-5 days a week at least to improve. So maybe that changes things and I can learn a shorter board? I’m just hesitant with the seaside because I don’t want to buy another board that is “too good” for me or to go too short too soon, that’s why I’ve started to look at the mid-lengths because they seem more forgiving. The Greedy Beaver seems like kind of inbetween that is forgiving but can still help me learn the intermediate moves and stuff. It seems like a “safer” choice for something to progress on, what do you think? I’m also not sure which size would be good for me, 6’0-6’2 maybe? The funnelator looks like a fun board too, but again not sure if I’m ready for such a board. What do you think about the Helium material vs the Timbertek in terms of durability? I will probably damage it a bit as I learn to pop up faster and just from general usage. I do take good care of boards in general but damage in use comes pretty easy from a knee or elbow I have found on the PU board at least. I don’t mind getting some repairs but ideally the board can take a hit or at least a lot more than my current PU board. My main goal is to progress and get a board to facilitate that. The waves I’m likely to surf are probably from knee/waist to shoulder/head high. I’m not comfortable in overhead just yet but I do hope to progress to that point in the next year or so.
Koen Thoolen That’s great information mate.. Makes it much easier to help when people are detailed and honest about the type and size of the waves they ride and their ability and what turns they are capable of performing and what they want to develop. Have a good look at board width too.. That makes for some pretty good indicators on stability if you don’t have length to help… How wide is your Astro.. I wouldn’t ride a 36 Litre 5’11” myself and a twin is also definitely not a great board for improvers they are inherently a bit looser and hence less stable plus anything around 21” wide and under will be quite different to boards decently over 21” Wide. The Freak Flag bean bag could be ok for you if The 5’10” or 5’11” Seaside I would suspect would paddle better than a 6’2” Greedy Beaver.. 6’2” is probably a good size but there not super wide boards.. The creeper would be a good option too. They handle the extra length and volume quite well.. You could ride that at 6’4” 44 Litres and still duck dive it and it’s responsive.. Similar to the beaver but a little more balanced shape and cruisy.. To be honest everything you are saying about what you are looking for and the style of board you like I’m thinking you would really love the Seaside.. I know for me the difference in stability between something like that and even the Aloha twin which was only 21 wide is quite different.. The Seaside is quite a different board form everything else.. Another really good option could be a Lost RNF retro.. Even more user friendly than the Seaside and a touch longer per volume and the C4 tech would give you’re your durability… You could go a stock 6’1” A long puddle jumper would be another good option mine is a 6’2” slim dims so normally would be like a 5’11” at the same volume but it’s longer and thinner but still nice and wide definitely an all time favourite.. Timber tech is pretty good as long as you don’t get water in it. Helium feels good has a tough skin and very light. Can feel a little slippery if anything but handles chop ok for epoxy too. Hmmm Yeah you might really like an RNF Retro in C4.. Tooo many choices aye buddy.. I know what you mean on boards under 6’0” they sometimes float good but don’t necessarily move forward paddling fast.. Another thing in catching the waves is a wide tail helps push you in.. It s long one but have a look at my video on the big 3 of volume rocker shape etc for board selection might help too
Koen Thoolen I think if your going to go short you want to pic a board that handles being over volumed quite well and is close on 22" wide to give you good stability. The greedy and creeper and RNF retro handle being over volumed well. Seaside is pretty special and doing a heck of a lot with the volume it's got well I would honestly stick my neck out and say the 5'11" or even 5'10" seaside would catch waves as well as a 6'2" greedy. The tail is so tight on the greedy you almost need to consider it being 2 or more inches shorter than it is as that last bit of that tail isn't going to be adding much. Alternatively you sticl to something around the 6'10" ish mark in an egg shape or mid length shape like a one bad egg style again trying to keep it fairly wide. When the midlength boards get narrow and thin you might as well be dropping ba few inches into a fatter shorter board. Hope that's more help than confusion. If you can demo or try a seaside or an RNF retro that would be very helpful for you 👍
Koen Thoolen maybe pick up something in one of the models we have discussed second hand then you know you will get most of your money back if it's not the one. Definitely don't talk Youself out of a seaside though if your really keen on one. It's quite different to a 36 litre fish and it's a fishy style board that will cover the wave range your looking at. End of the day it's your call and you know yourself best so trust your gut but yeah seaside is a very good board that's user friendly. RNF I would say even more so if your a little unsure. Not quite as responsive but very easy to ride
I am trying to find a board for mushy east coast surf. I surfed from birth to 20 years old when I went into the service and haven't surfed since. I'm 46 and my old 5' 9" 90's Matt Kechly thruster ain't gonna work for my fatass. What size would you recommend for an old man 5'10" 200lbs. Pretty good shape
Hey buddy.. Yup East Coast and not getting any younger i'm right there with you mate, dont worry :-) lol Board choice can definitely help.. Hard to say without really knowing your surfing ability, fitness and what you are already used to for volume wise but I think probably a 6'8" would be a good call. You could probably ride a 6'6" at the smaller end or a 6'10" at the larger end too but I think if you want to make your life easy and have more fun grab a 6'8" you will still be able to duck dive it and turn it pretty decently when the waves let you at that size. I'm assuming you are looking for something that's like an easy ride with a touch of performance still in there.. You could always consider the vacay too. Guess your probably not in NZ but they were clearing those cheap recently too the seaxe is also a nice board but can't go far wrong with the Greedy and 6'8 should make life pretty fun again . Cheers
@@lawson45uk Thanks for the advice. I'm 5'10, 200 lbs, good shape. I surfed from 4 years old to 20 when I joined the Marines. Going with the 6'8! Can't wait to get back out there!
@@usmcmma Nice James, let me know how you like it :-) If your looking for fins too Probably go for a large 5 fin set if your FCS2 maybe something like a DHD Large. The board is happy as a quad o a thruster. Cheers.
@@AussieDownUnder Yeah you be about the same as me mate, could ride a 6'2" or have it as 6'6" wave catching machine or 6'4" do a bot of everything. It scales real nice and feels shorter as it's tail is very narrow so still wont feel super long as you can get your chest right up front with the nose size
AussieBattler Yeah mate I surf a pretty slow gutless beachy and both my 6'4" and 6'10" went good in anything waist to overhead so should be sweet. They then surprisingly well off the tail. You could go a 6'4" but if your comfy with a little more volume your wave count abs progression will be really good on a 6'6" if you don't mind a bit of extra volume and dont need to do any super critical duck dives in hollow waves
Hey Mate, great review thank you. Which fins do you reckon might wotk best with this board? After watching your video I think I’ll go for this board. i am going from long board to short board. I tried the evo in 5’9” and it was too short for me. I got frustrated. This might work better for me. I think 6”4 might be perfect as well for my weight(78kilos). Which fins do you recommand for this board?
Jeremy Wolff Hey mate. Yeah it's a nice easy to ride board aye. Mine wasnt too fussy on fins to be fair. Seemed happy as a quad or a thruster in my normal go to fins so probably the same will worn for you. I used large Al Merrick but performers probably work fine too. Would suggest you chuck whatever your go to fins are in first if you already have a set or two see how they go and let me know if you find what use isn't giving you the right feel and I will try help. Cheers
I’ve surfed a greedy beaver myself and I think your review is spot on. Nice work!
Gordon Flash cheers buddy 👍
this board is awesome. i weigh 205 lbs, and am 5'11'' in height. i live in orange county and this board was a step down for me as i transitioned from an 8 foot mini mal. i picked up a 6'6'' at around 46 liters. this board has given me a ton of confidence, and i am able to trim on the wave as well as do some cutbacks -- it has taught me to ride more off the tail as said in this video. i have been riding it for about 5 months now and its the only board that i have been using. i am looking at a 5'11 seaside to add to my quiver.. any thoughts?
Will Davis Hey will. Good to hear the feedback and glad your stoked on your greedy beaver. I know a few people riding it as a one board quiver and really liking it. Yeah the seaside is awesome and yeah you could go the 6'0" don't want to confuse you but if your feeling brave you could go the 5''11" depends on how you feel about your beaver. I have a 6'4" beaver and a 5'11" seaside. The seaside I would say catches waves as easily as the greedy if not better at a couple of litres down. Ironically I could go a size down on the seaside (bearing in mind that's just a 1.5 litre drop though and I might like my greedy up at the 6'6" as a bit more of a cheater option for when waves are smaller and weaker. Go with your gut though. If you feel like you would have been ok with a 6'4" greedy you coild definitely go a 5'11" seaside if you like the volume on your greedy the seaside will likely paddle as well if not better. Shorter takes a bit of trim away open water but it's a great wave catcher. In terms of the board 100% great board and everyone should have a fish :) and it's a magic fish. Go for the split keel fins 👍
Got a 6'4" greedy beaver and just bought the seaside at 5'9" not been out on it yet as only got it yesterday but tried a demo at 5'8 which went so well , went for that bit more volume with the 5'9 ...
@@justsurfinwilldo1506 what up man. i actually got the 5'10'' seaside at 39 liters.. i am 5'11 and around 212 lbs. the seaside is a dope board i love it. it goes well with my style which is not aggressive.
@@SlickWillie hi Will , seems we have a similar surfing style and a great choice of boards ,at 175lbs I probably could of stayed with the 5'8 seaside but jumping from the greedy beaver and as our waves are never consistently good I thought I'd stay safe with the 5'9 ,still not been out on it yet ,as always you buy a new board and the waves go pants 😂 enjoy the rest of the summer man 🤙
Hello, have you surfed the Twice Baked? Torn between a Greedy Beaver and a Twice Baked, not surfed either though. Looking for a good all rounder up to head high, I'm 6ft and about 13 stone
Hi Sorry for the late reply just finding the few messages that slipped through the net unanswered. Ok so 2 quite different boards for my money. I havent ridden the twice baked but had a lot of potato's over the years and been really happy with them the Sweet and Baked spent about 10 years combined in my quiver I rekon. Greedy is more of an all rounder, tail is a more performance less speed generating oriented but still excellent board Potato is much more the deliberately wide tail and mid flat rocket quad board so depends on what your looking for. 6ft 13 stone your going to be looking at totally different lengths to hit your volume too. Maybe some more feedback on what your ability is and what you want to achieve. 6'10" greedy would be my thoughts for an all rounder to make your life easy.
Hey mate, i love the mics, all the other reviews I've watched so far I had difficulty hearing. Thanks for the videos! I would like to know your opinion on sizing, i am thinking to get this board, i am that beginner intermediate that have been riding a 7'6" 54L for a year and ready to something that allows for more agressive surfing yet not a full shortboard, think naturally my body wants to go more vertical, not super rad but not too horizontal either. I am 5'10" and 155 all suit up. I was thinking 6 or 6'2", would that be too far, too little? I just want easy paddling but not be burned after 3 duck dives. I mostly ride 1-6 foot waves but not very punchy when they go higher. What are your thoughts?
Cheers mate. Appreciate the feedback. Yeah mate I think 6’2” is probably a good call, you could even go as far as 6’4”and should still be ok to duck dive it but yeah for your weight 6’2” sounds good. You could always go for a different board with a little less nose width and a little more tail width if you are concerned. The tail is fairly tight, but the nose is quite big on these boards. That is part of what makes them such a good all rounder though. I know a guy locally that’s had a lot of boards and he got the 6’2” and that’s all he rides now. They will handle a good range of waves so yeah I think 6’2” is probably a good call for your weight. Still gonna give you 40 Litres. You will have to adjust your paddle in to be a little more in the pocket compared to your bigger board but that’s all part of the progression. Hope that helps. Cheers.
Sounds much better, it’s the first time even I’ve turned my volume down on the iPad watching one of your reviews! I have a 6.4
Love Child and I imagine they are quite similar apart from its PU and the LC board dents really easy with compression marks which I don’t like that much.
Si Timo thanks mate. Appreciate the feedback. Good to hear from someone who has a lovechild. I really like that kind of shape and being able to go single fin or 2+1 is really fun. Yeah that's always been an issue with some boards from that manufacturer. I don't buy them anymore but they do have some great shapes and they ride pretty good plus you often see them on special so sometimes there a really good option.
Great review - thanks. How would the Lost E-Z Up compare to the Greedy Beaver?
Easy is up is more rocker but also a bit more even template. Beaver is very much big nose pulled in tail easy up is a bit more balanced. You dont have to go easy up you can just go lazy boy / toy and now they have replaced that with the lazy toy 2 which looks great. Depends on what wave range you want to cover I guess.I bet the Lazy toy 2 is a beauty for small to medium waves. Beaver you can ride a good rang of waves on as long as their not super hollow. Could almost be ridden as a one board quiver.
Thanks for the feedback
Howdy GO SURF, thanks for the handy reviews. Looking for some advice. I'm an intermediate surfer 5'10" 80 kg and ride a 5'8" Seaside (love it) and a 5'9" Baked Potato. Usually surf average NZ east coast small weak waves. I have a longboard but don't really enjoy logging. A used 6'2" Beaver has popped up but unfortunately no try before buy. Is it worth looking at the Beaver if it meant selling the log an potentially the BP? I understand the BP and Beaver are apples & oranges. I find there's a bit of overlap with the BP and Seaside... BP is a great groveler but at 45l it's pretty chunky for such a short rail line... I do like it a lot however! Is the Beaver any good in 6s period 0.5 m wind slop? :) or tiny peelers ha. Cheers!
Hi Matt. My personal opinion... The greedy isn't really a grovel board unless your gonna get it in like a 6'6"-6'10" then you would probably find it fat in the rails again. The tail is pretty pulled in.. I have a 6'4" and would probably call it more trying to be a one board quiver than anything else. Maybe you have the wrong longboard. I really the lost Bean Bag for groveling myself. Don't even consider my seaside much good for a grovel board and i'm up at 5'11" in that. I think if your weaker east coast breaks your cheating yourself out of a lit of waves if you dont have a longboard personally. I like the bean bag for onshore low period slops and the longboard for clean or pretty straight liney stuff that would just pass you buy on anything that's not a longboard. You could get something that's just not loggy. I personally dont get on with really loggy boards that just suck into the pocket. I dont have the skills for them and really dont enjoy them.. Something like a Special T might be worth a look at of you want to compare to what you have. As I say, heavy bellie bottomed Loggy nose riders I dont enjoy either if that's what you have. I dont know if you would like a beaver in small and junky stuff though. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Thanks for your honest opinion! Yes, I think the greedy beaver is probably too many compromises given there's a couple of boards that already cover a decent range of conditions. My longboard is 9'1" pintail with modern-ish features (definitely not a heavy belly bottom but is quite heavy and has a snub nose if I could ever get toes up there) - probably best to keep it like you say for the super small clean days or try a different longboard. The potato gets into some really small crappy waves and is surprisingly maneuverable...
@@mattsmith464 yeah sounds like your pretty well set up with some of the better boards available for what we ride. The beaver is a really cool board but I would suggest it for either an upsized / oversized all rounder or as a one board quiver for average waves in the right dimensions. For people that have quivers boards like beavers do most things pretty good but aren't mind blowing at the extremes 👍 longboard sounds decent too. Maybe getting a thunderbolt longboard might be a better way to go with your quiver give the older log a lighter more modern upgrade 👌😉🤙
@@lawson45uk thanks again for the advice, I like seeing your progress on your self shaped boards, cheers!
Hi love ur reviews, im currently riding a 6"8 Dominator which is looking a bit old, how does the greedy beaver compare considering im 59 years old and only started surfing 9 years ago ?
Kevin Carter hi mate thanks for the feedback. Ok so that's potentially quite a question in this case .. two big questions would be how much do you weigh and this this going to be a bit of a one shoetboards quiver for you. Having ridden both I would say they're very different ideas. The beaver has all it's meat up front the Dom in the back. I would suspect a Dom would get slippery when ridden super high volume to your weight. The greedy could be hard to duck dive if your light. Both great boards. If it's a one board quiver and you don't get super critical or ride anything that's too hollow or too much over head high the greedy could be great for you. It does upsize quite well. There could be some other options out they're for you too but from the general sound I would say you would very likely like the beaver. Listening to the review of everything apeals to you it should definitely be on your shortlist. Especially for average guys like us getting a bit older. PS good on you for still being on something shoter at nearly 60 I hope I can too. We have some local guys 60s and even 70s still going really well. It's very encouraging for people like me feels like we could hopefully he as lucky 👍
Kevin Carter yeah so same volume is about the same length in either board. So ask yourself if you would be happy with a bigger nose and a little more cruisy ride (though probably no more cruisy off the tail) will definitely give you a bit more of an all rounder but they are different boards the beaver is heaps of fun.
@@lawson45uk Thanks for that, im about 90kg and 6 not tall but hoping to lose about 8-10 kg soon but I refuse to give up my beer. most times I ride a long board (Firewire crossfire) but living in South Oz most of the time have very average waves but occasionally head to the west coast of South oz and attempt some more challenging and bigger waves, I have learned to hold my breath for a very long time ha ha. Thanks so much for the feed back think I will look into a 6 10' beaver and still hang on to my grubby looking Dom
Kevin Carter ha ha fair enough mate :) I had the 6'10" and it was a heck of a lot of fun so hopefully you will enjoy it. If your heading away for good waves some time. Check out something like the Annesley psycho fun had one of those in a 6'8" would make a very usable step up for a regular guy good finish and cheap over your way. 👍
Recently got a Greedy Beaver, after having my eye on it for a while
Your review is spot on. And I am glad I volumed it up
I think this will become my preferred everyday board. Heaps of fun and can handle a good range of conditions
Great :-) I love to hear when people make a choice that their really stoked with that's what it's all about. the Beaver is a really well thought out board and does a lot very well especially if your sensible enough to be generous with yourself :-)
@@lawson45uk I was originally aiming for a 5’10 to 6’0 because I prefer shorter boards. Even the 5’10 is more literage than I usually ride. But I am glad I sized it up - as you say in the video
Great review! I was wondering if this can be ridden on twin keel fins? What is your insight on riding it as a twin? I have a 6'2 GB and I'm 5'10, 75 kgs. Thanks in advance!
Hi. Yeah you can ride any board as any fin set up you like but obviously it’s not always going to be optimal abs sometimes won’t work well at all. If a board we deigned as a twin or keel the fin placement would be different from a stock 5 fin set up. Saying that I think in theory the beaver has a tail that’s pulled in enough it shouldn’t be too bad to try as a twin and I have heard of a lot or people liking twin and trailer. Something like MR or power twins so definitely worth a try. Costs little or nothing to try if you already have fins. You might find it works great or not or you enjoy it for a smaller or different type of wave. Let me know how you get on. Cheers.
Hi mate, not sure if you still get to read this, but after a few months with a 6'10" SSaB which I got thanks to your reviews/feedback, now itching to try even shorter. I'm mid-40s, 5'7" and 64kg (gained some weight there!), and was looking at a 5'10" greedy beaver (34L) initially. still planning to surf this on knee-high to shoulder/head-high waves, mostly beach breaks where i'm in, and just want another option aside from the SSaB when I want to switch things around. thoughts on that? also looked at other boards like the twice baked (can probably go as low as 5'5" on that one, given the volume there), or the tomo revo, but not really sure which direction to go towards and the greedy beaver seemed like a safe bet. nowhere to try these boards here, so really have to purchase one (and just resell if it's really not for me - something I'm trying to avoid)
Any thoughts welcome!
Hi Nic. Yeah so to be honest I would generally recommend other boards for for those grovel sized waves.. The beaver is a great board so you could still consider it it's just that for smaller more grovelly waves it's still quite a narrow board and pulled in tail. A Twice Baked could be good, even better a new sweet potato for waves under head high unless they are pretty round and hollow and. The potato has a super flat rocker. Just depends on what kind of performance you would like to see out of a board too. Have you considered a Seaside at all too they work in smaller waves as well as having some range. Your pretty light so you would probably be ok on 35 ish litres if your paddle game and surfing is ok. You could pump it up for the grovel factor if you like but if you want to get to the more performance end your probably good around that 35 litre mark. Tommo could be ok if you can go short enough never really got on with Tommos myself but I have heaps of mates that love them. Think my problem is I can't ride them small enough for the size there meant to be and our waves are too weak I find them all short and narrow. You could look at an OG puddle Jumper too. If your under head and grovelly waves the potatoe family is a good call seaside if you want a bit fishy and a little more range to play with. What do you rekon?
@@lawson45uk thanks for the input as usual, dave, really appreciate it! I did consider the Seaside, but considering I have that 6'10" seaside and beyond, was thinking I wanted to try another shape if I were to get a shorter board. to be honest, just thinking of 35L is getting me nervous, with the 47L of the SSaB the lowest I've gone.. haha
waves here also weak most of the time so from your comments, the revo might be tough too. probably going to be the twice baked or sweet potato then, although that puddle jumper looks good too. not rushing into it, will keep playing with the SSaB first and see if I can actually start riding it rail to rail and maybe my preferences start to change. will keep you posted what I eventually get. Thanks again!
Nice review.
I've been surfing for a year anda I'm thinking to buy this board.
I’m Beg/Int 5’9 for 175lbs, with 39 years. what size do you recomend? I live in Portugal and I can get a lot of range of waves.
I was thinking oh a 6'6, but your review made me consider to a 6´4.
Can you give me your opinion please?
Thanks a lot
Joao Vieira hey buddy. Yeah the beaver scales up pretty good so you would be fine on either. The waves are pretty good in Portugal from what I hear so I would say the 6'4" should be plenty for you myself. Depends on what your used to, what waves your riding and what your looking to achieve but in terms of performance and still be very usable for your weight the 6'4" should be fine. If your only a few months into your surfing and not surfing waves overhead and want to make it easy the 6'6" would be ok too but your probably going to have more fun and more performance out of the 6'4". Hope that helps. If you want to make life easy and catch a few more waves while you progress you will have no problem with the 6'6" either. Just be a bit less sensitive. I would still consider a 6'6" myself too to be fair so same decision making and me. Again the beaver I could ride 6'2" -6'8" and not have any of them they would just behave differently and for different waves. 6'4" definitely be easier to get under waves too
@@lawson45uk Thank you so much... I think I will get de 6´4
Thanks
Joao Vieira No problem mate. Happy to help. Let me know how you like it and have a great Christmas 🤙
@@lawson45uk Thank for your help.
I've tried a 6`8 greedy beaver and liked a lot.
But now a friend of mine just bought a dominator and loves it.
In your experienced opinion, what do you think is the best board for a beginner? Greedy or dominator?
Thanks and great Christmas to you too
Joao Vieira hey mate. Can't remember if I replied or not sorry abs hard to see on my phone. So both great boards both very different too. The dominator you don't want to over volume so probably 6'4" max for you but that's not going to be quite as easy to ride as the beaver. It's a great board for starting to learn to shortboard though. I had one for a a few years back in the day when they first came out and really loved it. They can get a little slippery in the tail sometimes but great board for people to have as a first small to medium wave short board as well as just a good board for anything not too big. It's a much smaller nose though so will have less paddle power and less stability but it's still very user friendly. I think the beaver is Maybe a better choice for you at this stage myself but both at great boards. Saying that for me there are also better boards than the dominator at what that does these days too. You could have something with a slightly wider nose less rocker and the same volume if you wanted to but the dominator is really nice and pretty easy to ride. Hope that helps. Sorry if I already answered and let me know what you get and how you like it. Cheers.
Hello buddy, I am surfing out of Stockholm, Sweden. Its a bit choppy and the water is brackish hence a bit lower buoyancy. I am 5’11 and 172 lbs(28 y/o), been riding this decathlon 7’2 50 L hard top for awhile. Catching quite small waves with relative ease. Would you recon I could go with the 6’6? Would consider myself quite strong and fit. How would this board pair L to L with the decathlon board in terms of catch ability? Would it be about the same even though I would give up 3,5 L with the 6’6 beaver? I want high wave counts
Any answers would be greatly appreciated, you are a hero answering all the comments here :)
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Rasmus
Hi Rasmus. Yeah I think this would be a good progression board for you. Get you a more performance but still get a good wave count and plenty versatile. I'm assuming the Decathlon is a foamy? Guessing hard top would be eps core and stringers like a foamy but less spongey top and better rails? Sorry i'm not up with foamies. Extra Length and being a foam board will probably be easy to paddle but the Beaver you will likely be able to duck dive and also be able to kick with your feet as well as paddle with your arms so that can help close the gap and to be fair if your young and still progressing the aim is the use that experience you are gaining to put yourself closer to the pocket allowing you to loose a bit of volume and length so I dont think you will have any issues. I'm sure you would really enjoy the board and it's gonna give you more of a proper rail and fins to work with so yeah I would say it's a good one board quiver for a progressing surfer for sure. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Thanks for the answer!! It is actually an epoxy, brand Olaian, suprisingly good for being decathlon(atleast compared with the once I rented). Been surfing since 2018 mostly on vacations in Portugal, Bali, Sri Lanka etc(used to live in Spain). So now I am trying Swedish surf. I am currently practising the cut back so I am looking for a bit more responive board but still has that volume for the Swedish surf. I am confident I will buy a beaver, it is a great board for the Swedish surf conditions. A lot of people I met in the water have them here. Now I am just trying to figure out the lenght of the board.
@@rasmuseduards7437 Nice mate, sounds like you have gotten teh surfing bug and advancing well. Yeah I think if I had another I would get the 6'6" too I had the 6'4" but that didn't paddle heaps better than some of my hybrid boards and the tails are really quite pulled in so a 6'4" is probably more like a 6'0" with a bit of extra board on the tail where others would have already finished getting narrow :-) I had the biggest one too had heaps of fun on that but very big rail volume to get in the water. Good sign if locals have it and like it too. Can't underestimate importance of a board suiting your local conditions. Your weight and age you would probably be good on the 6'4 too but I think if you stick with the 6'6" you will still be good for the smaller days
@@lawson45uk Yeah, think I am zeroing in on the 6'6. Got the surfing bug for surel. I appreciate you taking the time to answer!
Hey Mate, are you still riding this board and if so are the FCS Performers still your go fin? Cheers
Hi Mathew. Nah I sold this one a good while back but great all round board of especially for people looking for a one board quiver for sensible sized waves. Most people seem to like them with performers quad personally but thruster too. I actually didn't find the board to be too fussy about fins either. The AM large thruster and quad also worked fine for me. Could probably be ok twin and trailer too if you wanted to mix it up in small waves
Appreciate you taking the time to reply, thanks. Would like to see you review on a 7’2 or 7’4 Harley Ingleby Moe if you ever get your hands on one
@@matthewbosley5547 All good mate. Lol yeah I would like to have a crak on the Moe. Shame we don't get demmo boards or someone leasing me have a go. I think they would be a good all robder. Real watersports over on the us have a great review on the Moe. I'm looking at the skibdog ova. Hopefully here in a few weeks. Cheers.
Hi great review, this board looks perfect for me and UK waves, just can't decide whether to get 6'4" or 6'6" I'm 6ft 84kgs. How easy is the 6'6" to duck dive? Is there much difference between either board? My current boards are 38ltr 8yr old shortboard or a 70ltr longboard so not sure what a 40+ ltr board is like to get out back, many thanks and great channel 👍😊
Hey buddy. Sorry it took a while been flat out making boards. Yeah being a bit taller you should be ok to sink either. I could actually sink the 6'10" but only just.. It's not going to duck dive like a short board though.. The 6'4" is actually very responsive off the tail and will definitely be manageable for most conditions. the 6'6" will grovel a bit more but will be on hte more difficult side to sink in a decent wave.. It's not a really wide board in the middle so that helps. Guess that is the thing with the greed and all do it all boards though nothing really "Does it all" the Beaver is super versatile but bigger nose and smaller tail can be a drawback too... If you want it for smaller waves maybe go the 6'6" if you want an all rounder go the 6'4" there all going to paddle easier and go better than a short board. Downside is obviously they get a bit harder to manage for duck dives especially up at 6'6" There are other boards you could consider to but if you have a longboard and want a one hybrid quiver and dont ride really big waves 6'4" Greedy definitely a great choice. Hope that helps. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Hi, thanks, thats a fantastic reply and great advice, cheers for your help, I think I'll look at trying to get hold of a 6'4". Many thanks, appreciate that 😊👍
@@jnoonanuk Sweet as mate. Thanks for your support watching the channel :-)
Hello mate. Great board. I am 8ft, 73kg. Do you think a 6'4 beaver will be a good all-rounder. Even for the bad days? thanks a lot.
Your 8ft?.. wow... really 73KG yeah the 6'4" probably good for anything over a couple of ft for you (about chest high up) I dont think you would really grovel on really poor waves on very many short boards.. Your into something more like a bean bag or a longboard for under 2ft in the waves I surf. Hope that helps
@@lawson45uk Thanks for the prompt reply! I meant 6 feet. Do you think maybe a Lost hydra or Bean bag would be more versatile? I live in Greece so waves are never that crazy. They go up to 6-7ft on the absolute best of days.
@@Dr.Tsaou_ Hey mate. Sounds like you get pretty similar waves to here. Nah the Beaver would be more versatile than the Hydra or a Bean bag.. I just think there are not many short boards you can really really grovel on all that successfully. I think the Beaver does do a bit of everything pretty well it's very responsive surfed off the tail but doesn't have a massive tail too. The creeper would have also been a great option if still available. depends on your level of surfing too. If your or a pretty normal surfer that doesn't get out all the time and looking for a one board quiver I think the beaver would be good.
@@lawson45uk thank you so much for the valuable advice. You won a subscriber.
Thanasis Tsaousis cheers mate. Happy to help. Same with fins If you need some advice just sing out and let me know how you go with the board you get. Always good to hear how people like boards 👍
Can you do the CI Water Hog please??? 🙏
Dont have a water hog sorry but I do like them. There good on volume and good value in a PU and I notice that in some other techs they have a single and side bites which could be really good as the drag on a thruster only option isnt always good depending on the waves your in. Paddles and performs well with a good wave range though. You could go from learner to always in the quiver for a board that's just for having fun in average waves. Cheers.
Hi go surf. Can you give your weight thinking to go with the 6.4 or with 6.6. best regards from Germany
1nmatt hey mate I fluctuate but was up at around 87kg when I reviewed this got down to about 80kgs for a while. It Depends on the volume your comfy with and what your looking for. The 6'4" definitely performs quite well. If your over say 90kg or want to make life easy and have a big wave count you could go the 6'6" if your lighter than say 84 and your comfy with a 40-42 litre hybrid board the 6'4" will be fine. Its pretty good but I didn't personally think its got a huge amount of extra wave catching ability for its shape of thats any help. The tail is so narrow there isn't as much to pick the tail up to get you into a fat wave hut it's got great speed and also very nimble once your going. Hope that helps.
Nice review! I really like how you explain everything clearly its very easy to understand :) I'm currently looking for a new board and looking for some advice on the size/type of board, maybe you can help me out? Up until this point I've surfed only a few weeks a year for about 8 years because I live far from the sea.. I would say I am in between beginner and intermediate level, still learning to do better turns and learn cutbacks and snaps, and also to pop up quickly. I am going to focus on surfing for the next 6 months so I would like a board that can help me progress in this period. I'm 6'2 - 72kg. I've surfed a lot on minimals and egg type boards. I've also tried a few hybrid boards like fishes, my most recent one was a 5'11-36L retro twin, but that feels like a step to far for me because I end up catching a lot less waves and thus progress slow.. I've also been looking at the Seaside but maybe the hybrid/shorter boards are not for me just yet, what do you think? I need a board that will help me catch more waves while still being able to learn more intermediate moves. The Greedy Beaver seems nice for me and I like that its in a durable construction. I've also been looking at boards from Lost like the Beanbag and the Pickup stick but I'm not sure about the Lib construction/price. Also really like the firewire Gofish and Seaside but that may be a step too far for me at this point.. Durability and the ability for me to progress are my two main criteria. I surf for fun 100% I have no ambition to compete but I do really want to get better at surfing. Which board do you think is good for my situation? Any advice/suggestions on sizing is also greatly appreciated!
Koen Thoolen
Hey Koen.
Thanks heaps for the positive feedback. Glad you enjoy the reviews..
Sounds like you really want an all rounder that’s a one board quiver but will also allow you to progress well.. The greedy could definitely be a good choice as per the review it does most things pretty well will just be the duck diving that is a little more difficult but being tall you would probably be fine as you will be further up the board anyways.. I wouldn’t discount boards like the Seaside either though. Something like a 5’10” / 5’11” Seaside would paddle and catch waves quite differently to a 36Litre retro fish, especially if it’s Poly vs the Eposy boards. Seaside has a fairly good wave range and is pretty stable for such a short board too. I would say my 5’11” Probably paddles and catches waves as good if not better than the Greedy with less volume and length to manage. Good thing for you is your pretty tall and light so your not going to struggle as much with longer boards so something like a midlength egg type shape will also be good for you if your concerned about getting less waves.. Sounds like you have experience with these too. It is tough to learn to get going on a much shorter board if your not getting out at leas every couple of weeks.Lib techs are pretty much the most durable board on the market and they feel pretty good too so definitely a good option. Maybe a pick up stick but don’t know much about them. Funnelator could be good too.. The standard bean gag might top out for you but the lib tech version might be ok with the step tail and lower volume but there really made for waves under head high ideally. Not sure what waves or how big the waves are you surf. Seaside and Geedy B Beaver would definitely be well up the list if your looking at the shorter end as well as the mid lengths. You could look at a smooth operator / one bad egg / crowd killer type board too. Timber Tech is durable but you have to be careful not to get water in them. Had a few longboards and 2 short and only had one problem but any sand outs dings etc can suck water into the wood pretty easily. Thunderbolt is another really good technology. Not cheap but rides good and will last.something like the slotmachine.. Can’t get them here unfortunately. Maybe come back to me with your thoughts will see if we can narrow it down. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Thanks for you reply, your advice is really helpful! To be a bit more specific: So far I’ve surfed mainly sloppy summer surf (beach/reef breaks) in France/Portugal up to about head high. I’d say I am pretty comfortable in shoulder high waves as far as catching them, but still relatively inexperienced in doing consistent turns/cutbacks/snaps. I am also not yet comfortable surfing overhead waves - I have tried it, but didn’t manage to catch a lot of waves. I’ve surfed all kinds of softtops/high volume boards down to 6’0. I do notice with most 6’0 boards that I am not completely stable popping up. Maybe because I still have to get used to the size. I also experience that with my current board, the 5’11 Pyzel Astro Twin (in Poly) at 36L. I can paddle the board and get out the back with it but catching waves is difficult for me. I have trouble positioning myself at the peak or the right take off point for this board. When I do take off, I manage to pop up but my popup isn’t that fast yet so I don’t get a lot of time on the actual wave to practice turns etc.. With longer boards/or boards with more volume it seems more forgiving for catching waves. Overall I feel like this current PU board is beyond my skill level and so I felt like I needed to take a step back.
The Seaside is a board that I have been looking at for a long time because I really like the shape and the “surf style” it can offer. I do want to progress to surfing shorter boards and these hybrid shapes like the seaside. I was actually planning on buying a Seaside for this period of progression but after my most recent surftrip I thought maybe that board is also beyond my current level, because its also short like my current board. However, as you describe it, it seems like it could still be a good board for me at 5’10/11. I do plan on spending 1-3 months in Portugal to surf 4-5 days a week at least to improve. So maybe that changes things and I can learn a shorter board? I’m just hesitant with the seaside because I don’t want to buy another board that is “too good” for me or to go too short too soon, that’s why I’ve started to look at the mid-lengths because they seem more forgiving.
The Greedy Beaver seems like kind of inbetween that is forgiving but can still help me learn the intermediate moves and stuff. It seems like a “safer” choice for something to progress on, what do you think? I’m also not sure which size would be good for me, 6’0-6’2 maybe? The funnelator looks like a fun board too, but again not sure if I’m ready for such a board.
What do you think about the Helium material vs the Timbertek in terms of durability? I will probably damage it a bit as I learn to pop up faster and just from general usage. I do take good care of boards in general but damage in use comes pretty easy from a knee or elbow I have found on the PU board at least. I don’t mind getting some repairs but ideally the board can take a hit or at least a lot more than my current PU board.
My main goal is to progress and get a board to facilitate that. The waves I’m likely to surf are probably from knee/waist to shoulder/head high. I’m not comfortable in overhead just yet but I do hope to progress to that point in the next year or so.
Koen Thoolen That’s great information mate.. Makes it much easier to help when people are detailed and honest about the type and size of the waves they ride and their ability and what turns they are capable of performing and what they want to develop. Have a good look at board width too.. That makes for some pretty good indicators on stability if you don’t have length to help… How wide is your Astro.. I wouldn’t ride a 36 Litre 5’11” myself and a twin is also definitely not a great board for improvers they are inherently a bit looser and hence less stable plus anything around 21” wide and under will be quite different to boards decently over 21” Wide. The Freak Flag bean bag could be ok for you if The 5’10” or 5’11” Seaside I would suspect would paddle better than a 6’2” Greedy Beaver.. 6’2” is probably a good size but there not super wide boards.. The creeper would be a good option too. They handle the extra length and volume quite well.. You could ride that at 6’4” 44 Litres and still duck dive it and it’s responsive.. Similar to the beaver but a little more balanced shape and cruisy.. To be honest everything you are saying about what you are looking for and the style of board you like I’m thinking you would really love the Seaside.. I know for me the difference in stability between something like that and even the Aloha twin which was only 21 wide is quite different.. The Seaside is quite a different board form everything else.. Another really good option could be a Lost RNF retro.. Even more user friendly than the Seaside and a touch longer per volume and the C4 tech would give you’re your durability… You could go a stock 6’1” A long puddle jumper would be another good option mine is a 6’2” slim dims so normally would be like a 5’11” at the same volume but it’s longer and thinner but still nice and wide definitely an all time favourite.. Timber tech is pretty good as long as you don’t get water in it. Helium feels good has a tough skin and very light. Can feel a little slippery if anything but handles chop ok for epoxy too. Hmmm Yeah you might really like an RNF Retro in C4.. Tooo many choices aye buddy.. I know what you mean on boards under 6’0” they sometimes float good but don’t necessarily move forward paddling fast.. Another thing in catching the waves is a wide tail helps push you in.. It s long one but have a look at my video on the big 3 of volume rocker shape etc for board selection might help too
Koen Thoolen I think if your going to go short you want to pic a board that handles being over volumed quite well and is close on 22" wide to give you good stability. The greedy and creeper and RNF retro handle being over volumed well. Seaside is pretty special and doing a heck of a lot with the volume it's got well I would honestly stick my neck out and say the 5'11" or even 5'10" seaside would catch waves as well as a 6'2" greedy. The tail is so tight on the greedy you almost need to consider it being 2 or more inches shorter than it is as that last bit of that tail isn't going to be adding much. Alternatively you sticl to something around the 6'10" ish mark in an egg shape or mid length shape like a one bad egg style again trying to keep it fairly wide. When the midlength boards get narrow and thin you might as well be dropping ba few inches into a fatter shorter board. Hope that's more help than confusion. If you can demo or try a seaside or an RNF retro that would be very helpful for you 👍
Koen Thoolen maybe pick up something in one of the models we have discussed second hand then you know you will get most of your money back if it's not the one. Definitely don't talk Youself out of a seaside though if your really keen on one. It's quite different to a 36 litre fish and it's a fishy style board that will cover the wave range your looking at. End of the day it's your call and you know yourself best so trust your gut but yeah seaside is a very good board that's user friendly. RNF I would say even more so if your a little unsure. Not quite as responsive but very easy to ride
I am trying to find a board for mushy east coast surf. I surfed from birth to 20 years old when I went into the service and haven't surfed since. I'm 46 and my old 5' 9" 90's Matt Kechly thruster ain't gonna work for my fatass. What size would you recommend for an old man 5'10" 200lbs. Pretty good shape
Hey buddy.. Yup East Coast and not getting any younger i'm right there with you mate, dont worry :-) lol
Board choice can definitely help..
Hard to say without really knowing your surfing ability, fitness and what you are already used to for volume wise but I think probably a 6'8" would be a good call. You could probably ride a 6'6" at the smaller end or a 6'10" at the larger end too but I think if you want to make your life easy and have more fun grab a 6'8" you will still be able to duck dive it and turn it pretty decently when the waves let you at that size.
I'm assuming you are looking for something that's like an easy ride with a touch of performance still in there..
You could always consider the vacay too. Guess your probably not in NZ but they were clearing those cheap recently too the seaxe is also a nice board but can't go far wrong with the Greedy and 6'8 should make life pretty fun again .
Cheers
@@lawson45uk Thanks for the advice. I'm 5'10, 200 lbs, good shape. I surfed from 4 years old to 20 when I joined the Marines. Going with the 6'8! Can't wait to get back out there!
@@usmcmma Nice James, let me know how you like it :-) If your looking for fins too Probably go for a large 5 fin set if your FCS2 maybe something like a DHD Large. The board is happy as a quad o a thruster. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk didn't even think of fins! Thanks for the tip. Last boards I bought had them glassed in!
I think i want one. Im thinking a 6'6 but could go 6'2
Ha ha dont be scared of the 6'6" if you want a fun machine with high wave count I almost wish I got a 6'6" What do you weigh mate
@@lawson45uk 85kgs mate and I've been surfing for just over a year now
@@AussieDownUnder Yeah you be about the same as me mate, could ride a 6'2" or have it as 6'6" wave catching machine or 6'4" do a bot of everything. It scales real nice and feels shorter as it's tail is very narrow so still wont feel super long as you can get your chest right up front with the nose size
@@lawson45uk mate I'm mainly surfing beach breaks with the occasional reef break. How would a larger 6'6 rig go in a Beachy?
AussieBattler Yeah mate I surf a pretty slow gutless beachy and both my 6'4" and 6'10" went good in anything waist to overhead so should be sweet. They then surprisingly well off the tail. You could go a 6'4" but if your comfy with a little more volume your wave count abs progression will be really good on a 6'6" if you don't mind a bit of extra volume and dont need to do any super critical duck dives in hollow waves
Hey Mate, great review thank you. Which fins do you reckon might wotk best with this board? After watching your video I think I’ll go for this board. i am going from long board to short board. I tried the evo in 5’9” and it was too short for me. I got frustrated. This might work better for me. I think 6”4 might be perfect as well for my weight(78kilos). Which fins do you recommand for this board?
Jeremy Wolff Hey mate. Yeah it's a nice easy to ride board aye. Mine wasnt too fussy on fins to be fair. Seemed happy as a quad or a thruster in my normal go to fins so probably the same will worn for you. I used large Al Merrick but performers probably work fine too. Would suggest you chuck whatever your go to fins are in first if you already have a set or two see how they go and let me know if you find what use isn't giving you the right feel and I will try help. Cheers