Pally’s casual and fun approach was good and he was my first HOTS streamer but once I improved at the game his play style annoyed me - I wanted a higher level streamer. Followed Nubkeks for a while but then settled on Fan ❤
I graduated from MFPallytime to Fan, I learn alot more about the game by watching you but watching Pally is soo much more relatable. I do really love your Bronze to GM series most in the potato leagues... The chaos and you just 1v9ing is great content :D
Fan explain is also very different from other streamers. It's simple high level details I don't think of much or forget often cause I play lower level.
Pally was my first Hots youtuber I watched, I'm a super casual and only play QM or AI if I'm just learning a hero because I'm bad lol, but that's why I liked pally he plays more casual, I like both of channels tho, and I watch more Fan nowadays, the view builds and low rank shenanigans are always a treat
You do you, Fan. But I would love to hear more about your thought process, more explanation, thoughts on talents and builds as you go through a game, mistakes you or others are making, etc as you play. Pally is very relatable as he feels like he's more my level and makes mistakes that I make. I watch you to get better, but I don't always know what it is you are doing or why, aside from stomping fools and sidestepping out of your mind.
relating to the viewer experience question; I can't look at the talents you pick if you use crtl + number (or +). it's faster to do that, but it doesn't give the talent popup that always appears for at least one frame if you click it
Explaining talent choices and how they relate to the game is a good start. They're the least visible decision for viewers, compared to rotations and team fights.
Pally is a joy to watch, and I love how he'll talk through everything that goes through his head during a match. I would definitely prefer some higher level play with explanation though. Great video!
Stopped watching pallytime after I got good at the game. He appeals to the more casual fans, I just hope his commentary doesn’t encourage players to be too casual. Always frustrating when you have bad teammates. I personally find that Fan’s silence forces me to be more observant and learn from his actions & gameplay rather than being told what to think and do. Makes it all the better when he does explain and confirm why something is good or not
few comments I love using Xul as a split push and he'll likely carry me out of low gold back to plat (after a year break), i use a pure W build with the % dmg shield and poison nova, even more so against stiches as if i get hooked i can do a bunch of damage and with the 20 upgrade on poison nova sometimes walk away from it. I do like when you break down your talent choices, even more so when you're going "off build" from your normal picks. (often people get way too into the 1 true build, as seen by the stupid number of glass cannon mings i see in gold sometimes) When i'm watching a game get cast Pally being a more hype play by play guy is a must, your laid back style wouldn't work for play by play calling, it could work as a color commenter. That said when watching someone talk about their own games while playing the laid back style works. Either way keep up the good work.
well my watch order was pally grubby fan at the times. After a certain level pally doesn't help in improving gameplay that much. And fan is too silent sometimes. Middle ground is usually grubby. I find this kind of overexlained games really valuable. I think it isn't even overexplained. We should call it explained lel
Great overexplained game! Doesn't poison nova do more siege damage with the same cd as the mages? I feel like the mages dying very quick and do very little dmg in comparison to the dmg over time from the nova.
Palley is focused on lower level and newer player content in my opinion. When I first started playing I loved watching his videos. I feel the majority of players are low level and that's probably why pally gets more views. I prefer Fan content cause I want to learn about higher levels play. It maybe the case not many people who play hots want to learn high level play.
maybe you could approach pally about some cross over vids wouldn't hurt for either of you to get more viewers, he's chill so might be fun for both viewers
yeah I really feel he would love a shout out from an experienced /proven hots tuber like yourself , after all we all need more potatoes in our life . hehe get it tuber.... dad chef out b4 I embarrassed myself more lol
Following the both of you I agree with most of what's been said, Pally definitely covers a much more casual approach, but sometimes watching him makes me cringe from the plays he makes. Funny enough he plays with Fox a lot, who carries him of course. What he does do very well though is explain his plays and decisions, and I kinda miss that from your side, like when you explained your approach of staying near a fight but not engaging, I would have forced an outcome by going into the fight but I can see that what you did was the correct decision, because you explained it. And I do really enjoy watching some high level hots on your channel, I initially did find you quiet by comparison but now I'm used to it :)
I like your videos. You could explain a bit more that would be helpful. You don’t need to explain the fights, we can understand by watching. What I’d like to understand more is what talents you pick and why and also sometimes why you go for a certain objective and when to ignore stuff. Thanks for your content it’s really helpful
Yep backpack battles liike the others said, you can watch me play it by searching it on my channel pretty fun autobattler/strategy game that came out recently
Yeah Pally is a legacy HoTS creator. I like his commentary but... his games are canned from his Twitch (premade with viewers on both sides) most of the time, so not actually QM which I find fairly unappealing. Then again, true QM is a toxic mess and would probably take 5-10X longer to make vids so i get it.
To explain, if you look at the name plates in his matches (friendly and enemy) you will see a LOT of familiar names. Fox plays w/ him sometimes, perhaps he can elaborate further.
I'm a long-time Pally viewer, and only recently started catching your streams. My two cents is: I get REALLY turned away when you get salty. Even a little bit of that kills the fun of viewing for me. Things like "these opponents are bad" "boosted bronze tier in GM" etc. Maybe that mentality is part of your good play, but just offering my perspective.
I like pally as a Person, But he teaches so much bad stuff and quickmatch makes you worse 😅 So i could not endure watching him, despite him beeing funny😂❤
Pallytime is the "video-game streamer" version of "Jim Cramer." (The finance/stock "expert" on TV.) Neither of them present ANYTHING of true substance, but they are (apparently) good clowns, and for SOME REASON people enjoy them...
"From what you've heard"...so in the 8 or 9 years pally has streamed hots and gone to/commentated tons of pro and amateur events, interviewed blizzard on the game and streamed with devs, got millions of views on hots vids, you are just now considering his content? Weirdly disingenuous. I do enjoy your more pro content these days, but your chatters are saying some stupid shit.
It was never recommended on my YT and he was never involved with HGC the official pro circuit so I didn't even know about him. To assume everyone knew about his content just because you did is what is disingenuous...
Pally’s casual and fun approach was good and he was my first HOTS streamer but once I improved at the game his play style annoyed me - I wanted a higher level streamer. Followed Nubkeks for a while but then settled on Fan ❤
I did literally the exact same thing, forgot about Nubkeks entirely lol
Literally same too ^
yea pally got me into hots pretty much then his a-z video helped a ton then i moved on to fan and been here since
I graduated from MFPallytime to Fan, I learn alot more about the game by watching you but watching Pally is soo much more relatable.
I do really love your Bronze to GM series most in the potato leagues... The chaos and you just 1v9ing is great content :D
Yes! I would love to see more explanation in your games. Helps me improve as a HotS player. I always get excited for over-explained games. Thanks Fan
Fan explain is also very different from other streamers. It's simple high level details I don't think of much or forget often cause I play lower level.
Paly also is his own hots announcer, describing the entire battle he is in like a Hispanic soccer announcer 😂
15:58 That Muradin jumping after the Genji, and a minute later jumping the Junkrat was very satisfying.
Insane how much damage he took after bursting that junkrat
I really like your videos, especially when you give usefull tips and explain everything. It helps a lot😄
Pally was my first Hots youtuber I watched, I'm a super casual and only play QM or AI if I'm just learning a hero because I'm bad lol, but that's why I liked pally he plays more casual, I like both of channels tho, and I watch more Fan nowadays, the view builds and low rank shenanigans are always a treat
Love overexplained games ! 😊
You do you, Fan. But I would love to hear more about your thought process, more explanation, thoughts on talents and builds as you go through a game, mistakes you or others are making, etc as you play. Pally is very relatable as he feels like he's more my level and makes mistakes that I make. I watch you to get better, but I don't always know what it is you are doing or why, aside from stomping fools and sidestepping out of your mind.
relating to the viewer experience question; I can't look at the talents you pick if you use crtl + number (or +). it's faster to do that, but it doesn't give the talent popup that always appears for at least one frame if you click it
It does if you look closely actually
Nice game. Xul is a really cool hero, especially with that muradin jumping after root and hammer stunning like a god
I only play QM but rely on your consistent video releases as a standard for ‘Playing well.’ Appreciate what you do
Explaining talent choices and how they relate to the game is a good start. They're the least visible decision for viewers, compared to rotations and team fights.
I watch both of you for the same reason, you're both fun to watch.
Pally is a joy to watch, and I love how he'll talk through everything that goes through his head during a match. I would definitely prefer some higher level play with explanation though. Great video!
Stopped watching pallytime after I got good at the game. He appeals to the more casual fans, I just hope his commentary doesn’t encourage players to be too casual. Always frustrating when you have bad teammates.
I personally find that Fan’s silence forces me to be more observant and learn from his actions & gameplay rather than being told what to think and do. Makes it all the better when he does explain and confirm why something is good or not
I like the comments, helps me keep up with what is in Fan's head!
Pally talks out of his butt. You could take 10 to 15 seconds to mouse-over your selected talents when the match ends and that would help a lot.
few comments
I love using Xul as a split push and he'll likely carry me out of low gold back to plat (after a year break), i use a pure W build with the % dmg shield and poison nova, even more so against stiches as if i get hooked i can do a bunch of damage and with the 20 upgrade on poison nova sometimes walk away from it.
I do like when you break down your talent choices, even more so when you're going "off build" from your normal picks. (often people get way too into the 1 true build, as seen by the stupid number of glass cannon mings i see in gold sometimes)
When i'm watching a game get cast Pally being a more hype play by play guy is a must, your laid back style wouldn't work for play by play calling, it could work as a color commenter. That said when watching someone talk about their own games while playing the laid back style works.
Either way keep up the good work.
well my watch order was pally grubby fan at the times. After a certain level pally doesn't help in improving gameplay that much. And fan is too silent sometimes. Middle ground is usually grubby. I find this kind of overexlained games really valuable. I think it isn't even overexplained. We should call it explained lel
Dunno, Pally didn't stick with me, I appreciate your vids more, Fan
Great overexplained game! Doesn't poison nova do more siege damage with the same cd as the mages? I feel like the mages dying very quick and do very little dmg in comparison to the dmg over time from the nova.
Thanks, is it possible to have the build in the comment or description? Thanks
Palley is focused on lower level and newer player content in my opinion. When I first started playing I loved watching his videos. I feel the majority of players are low level and that's probably why pally gets more views. I prefer Fan content cause I want to learn about higher levels play. It maybe the case not many people who play hots want to learn high level play.
maybe you could approach pally about some cross over vids wouldn't hurt for either of you to get more viewers, he's chill so might be fun for both viewers
yeah I really feel he would love a shout out from an experienced /proven hots tuber like yourself , after all we all need more potatoes in our life . hehe get it tuber.... dad chef out b4 I embarrassed myself more lol
Following the both of you I agree with most of what's been said, Pally definitely covers a much more casual approach, but sometimes watching him makes me cringe from the plays he makes. Funny enough he plays with Fox a lot, who carries him of course.
What he does do very well though is explain his plays and decisions, and I kinda miss that from your side, like when you explained your approach of staying near a fight but not engaging, I would have forced an outcome by going into the fight but I can see that what you did was the correct decision, because you explained it.
And I do really enjoy watching some high level hots on your channel, I initially did find you quiet by comparison but now I'm used to it :)
I like your videos. You could explain a bit more that would be helpful. You don’t need to explain the fights, we can understand by watching. What I’d like to understand more is what talents you pick and why and also sometimes why you go for a certain objective and when to ignore stuff. Thanks for your content it’s really helpful
Boney boy my #1 pick for most impactful hero. EZ mode double soak, point and click kill targeting, and level 20 Q is nearly an auto-win.
I would love to see an overexplained Yrel game in GM
I've been wanting to see a Fan + Pallytime collab for awhile, would be fun.
Pally could definitely get some high level tips.
What was that game in the first seconds of the video, FanHOTS?
I think its called backpacker. He has a video of it up on his channel too, its very recent.
Backpack Battles!
Yep backpack battles liike the others said, you can watch me play it by searching it on my channel pretty fun autobattler/strategy game that came out recently
Yeah Pally is a legacy HoTS creator. I like his commentary but... his games are canned from his Twitch (premade with viewers on both sides) most of the time, so not actually QM which I find fairly unappealing. Then again, true QM is a toxic mess and would probably take 5-10X longer to make vids so i get it.
To explain, if you look at the name plates in his matches (friendly and enemy) you will see a LOT of familiar names. Fox plays w/ him sometimes, perhaps he can elaborate further.
your gameplay and explanations are 100 times better than pallytime, I stopped watching him when you started immediately
I heared about pally only after being a veteran player watching fan
Was irritated seeing all his misplays, dropped him soon after
high lvl content xD what a duche
I'm a long-time Pally viewer, and only recently started catching your streams. My two cents is: I get REALLY turned away when you get salty. Even a little bit of that kills the fun of viewing for me. Things like "these opponents are bad" "boosted bronze tier in GM" etc. Maybe that mentality is part of your good play, but just offering my perspective.
I like pally as a Person,
But he teaches so much bad stuff and quickmatch makes you worse 😅
So i could not endure watching him, despite him beeing funny😂❤
Guys imagine if Fan would collaborate with Pally and they would play a few QMs together. This would be so fun to watch 😃
Pallytime is the "video-game streamer" version of "Jim Cramer." (The finance/stock "expert" on TV.)
Neither of them present ANYTHING of true substance, but they are (apparently) good clowns, and for SOME REASON people enjoy them...
"From what you've heard"...so in the 8 or 9 years pally has streamed hots and gone to/commentated tons of pro and amateur events, interviewed blizzard on the game and streamed with devs, got millions of views on hots vids, you are just now considering his content? Weirdly disingenuous. I do enjoy your more pro content these days, but your chatters are saying some stupid shit.
It was never recommended on my YT and he was never involved with HGC the official pro circuit so I didn't even know about him. To assume everyone knew about his content just because you did is what is disingenuous...