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You know what the saddest part is? The Crime Syndicate didn't really care that Johnny died, but the Justice League still cared enough to gather around him in his final moments. That's fucked up.
Deadlyaztec27 Well that is one less super powered rival to compete with for resources, manpower, and territory. They are called the Crime Syndicate for a reason.
I'd kinda figured the saddest part was how Johnny didn't even seem to hold a grudge against Batman, guy knew Johnny would be going to his death but let him do it, yet Johnny can't even seem to hate Batman for it.
Probably because it'd be like showing weakness to them. If you care about one of your team mates to point his death affects you you might have others like family and loved ones that can be exploited and used to weaken you further
@@mitchellbaran7917 The first thing Batman does when he recovers from the transdimensional travel is yell at him to stop. With urgency. A desperate attempt to save him to, although he knows it's no use maybe he's been fast enough that Jhony might have a couple of years left in his tank. So of course he doesn't take it too personal, Batman would have preferred noone died, but forced to make the call he would chose to save his teammate. Jhony would have done the same thing. I also believe the fact that he got to do one last imposible thing that would be remembered for ages soothed his ego, which probably helped him go out with a smile and a laugh.
He just knew that for every second Johnny stayed vibrating, he's aging more. The frantic voice Batman uses is to stop him from vibrating as soon as possible in an attempt of maybe having Johnny not be so old that he'd die.
There was simply a chance that they could have died from it, but batman had to take the risk. In the end he didnt make it back in time for quick to survive.
There is more to the build-up to Johnny's fate. At the beginning of the movie, when Wonder Woman states that Batman wouldn't risk the Flash's life needlessly.
@@mahilmehtar4155 he still tricke him; actually i think he said that to makes sure that Johnny would still do the Job even if he feels like this is dangerous, no that he was worried, at least not at this time
All this reminded me of is what Darkside said when Batman went up against him: Darkseid: "Well played. Had the Kryptonian or the Amazon taken that gamble, they would have lost. They do not have the strength of character to destroy an entire planet to achieve success. But you? A human? You kill your own kind to win battles; an admirable quality."
You assume that Batman felt okay with the decision he made. He knew a sacrifice had to be made, he just didn't want to sacrifice Flash. Batman still cared about Johnny, hence why he told him to stop vibrating.
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
@@brian5771 no. It's already been established that speedsters age, regardless of the scientific discrepancy. The logic is that when speedsters move fast, their body chemistry is moving fast to process the energy.
@@BowenEros-gt8gn Not all the time. Because if that's the case, then Barry should be getting older and older as he uses his power. In that logic, he should be older than everyone else. Lol failed.
@@brian5771 no. There's been an explanation for why he isnt if he isn't and he probably is. And....that would depend how fast he goes....why are you giggling? And why are you having scientific debates over fiction?
Even though Johnny Quick was a criminal, he died a noble death saving the multiverse from destruction. Poor guy, he was as much of a loveable smartass as the Flash despite being a member of the Crime Syndicate.
ryan macdonald My take on the Syndicate is this: Owlman: Complete nihilist, willing to destroy everything to prove a point. Superwoman: Sadist, willing to destroy everything because she likes destruction. Power Ring: Upgraded crony, probably rose through the ranks of a gang without any real thought to running the damn thing. Ultraman: Muscle that became a Don. He likes being in control, and views the world as his property, but doesn't actually want it destroyed. Johnny Quick: Cocky thief that hit the big-time, and hit it hard. Willing to kill, and definitely prefers being in control, but doesn't actually enjoy the thought of death and destruction.
The sad part is is that what he did was pointless. The moment Owlman went to Earth prime, his decision creates more realities, so he never could actually destroy earth prime.
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
@@brian5771 The reason why he aged like that is because he drained his body due to a speedsters rapid metabolism. He was vibrating so long and so fast all the nutrients is his body was used up forcing his body to shut down and caused an organ failure
He tries to stop him from vibrating as soon as the job is done, he even has this worried tone in his voice. He literally tries to save him in this clip.
I like how previously in the movie they all told the Flash that batman wouldn't risk his life when they were testing the boom tube. it was basically foreshadowing that batman wouldn't risk him for this
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
I always thought that he had no hard feelings as to Johnny, this is what he deserved but at least his final act was to save the multiuniverse. Not a bad way to go
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
@@brian5771 Brian thanks. Because of you I figured out how to perform a one way trip to the future. I will skip the next one million years by hitting light speed. Why? 21st century technology suck ass
@@chubbycalico8217 but Johnny said "good one" meaning that he approved and probably would've done the same thing. Perhaps in his mind his last thoughts were better him die than the Flash who would go on to continue saving people
@@chubbycalico8217 it could be dangerous the bloody universe is at stake of course is dangerous he was warned he wanted to be a hero he got his shot lol
Some of you may have not noticed but in the beginning of the movie, everyone questioned if Batman really cared for his teammates because he put the Flash in danger by testing the teleporter. But at the ending scene where Johnny is about to die, Flash immediately realized that Batman really cared for him because Batman didn't made him do the vibration and even lied to him that he is slow to save his life.
I just rewatched the film and finally got that. I never paid attention to that moment until this watch through when I was paying attention to it I realized that at the end he tells Flash no. He wouldn't let Flash do it if he wasn't absolutely sure Flash would survive. Since he wasn't 100% certain he let Johnny do it but hoped he was wrong. You can see the urgency in his expression telling Johnny to stop but was too late.
If his aging was supposedly because of time dilation, that meant that Johnny Quick vibrated for 50 years straight from his own perspective and that he had the ability to live without oxygen and food for that long. It’s amazing that he had the patience and fortitude for that.
Well Superman's died because his cells wouldn't stop absorbing sunlight/radiation so technically his powers have killed him before. Or at least the thing that gives him powers
Batman does this in Death of the Family. He's about to tell Joker his real identity but Mr. J doesn't wanna hear it so he pushes Batman away and ends up falling to his death. Its later revealed that Batman was bluffing and didn't know who he was. He knew Joker wouldn't be able to listen. So he doesn't kill people, but he makes them kill themselves.....that's even worse but...shit. Good way to keep blood off your hands and still do the deed.
It's not really worse. He gives them a choice. They can all choose to live if they do things right, and it takes some serious crimes for Batman to let them die on their own anyway. We can all agree Joker would get executed even in countries and states that don't normally allow a death penalty if it was the real world. Even if you can predict something bad will happen if you do something right, it's not a guarantee that it will indeed happen. It shouldn't stop you from doing the right thing if you weight both things on your morals and see which one is the heaviest: risk or reward. And the reward of stopping Joker is almost always lives saved. In this case, Barry's life was saved and Johnny was a murderer. It's messed up, but that's the world Batman lives in.
But these are people whom he knows their psychosis and what it requires. He's asking them to do something they don't even want to do. That's like asking a kid if the want fruit when they've been bitching about cookies all day. You KNOW what their answer is gonna be. Its as much an illusion of choice as he gave Owlman. Either die from a planetary explosion. Or suffer for a week on a hostile empty planet with no food and die.
I can give it to you that he has responsibility over Johnny Quick's death, but Joker's? Owlman's? No. Batman's character always goes out of his way to keep his enemies alive. But you're making it look like it is his duty, and not his choice. Sometimes killing is unavoidable and uncontrollable, and you don't have to risk your own life or health to keep that from happening.. It is the criminal that puts Batman in that position, so why do you blame Batman?
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
@@brian5771 he actually didnt travel in the way that you think, just ran faster than anyone could imagine, but ran himself dry in the process. If you suck out all the water and nutrients in your body, your skin wrinkles, your hair turns grey, and your organs fail. The only part they didn't get right is the speedforce exists in this universe, so johnny would have gone there before he reached the speed he was vibrating at.
"The bloody universe is at stake. Of course it's dangerous." Words of a true hero. I'm pretty sure Johnny Quick would have been a fine hero had he grew up in a different universe.
Wally " Bruce...how could you..." Bruce "When Barry died...Hal and I went to tell Iris. I still remember the look on her face when we told her... I know it was selfish of me...but I couldn't bare too put her through that again with you"
Batman knew a speedster was needed to make that portal. He also knew Flash was beyond ready to make the ultimate sacrifice, yet wasn't willing to let an already good man and friend make that decision yet. Despite his speed, Flash is still human. Johnny was willing to do the job after Batman lied to Flash about being too slow. Quick lived his life believing nothing could touch him. It was in his final moments that he realized that he was given a small chance of doing the right thing and saved lives over hurting them. Batman gave a villain a shot at redemption and Quick grabbed it not knowing until the end what being a hero was like. Save the world/multiverse, and it will thank you with every passing day.
Johnny quick knew the risk and the reward and fully consented to doing this and it was needed. Batman didn't kill anyone. At most you could call it manslaughter.
It doesn't matter if Batman told Flash not to do it, Johnny Quick acknowledged it could be dangerous and wanted it- he even said he was faster than Flash. It's his own cockyness that caused him to die, not Batman. Irregardless it's technically natural causes so it's all irrelevant.
Venomousbeetle Flash volunteered first yet he didnt give Flash the choice. "It could be dangerous" is an understatement when it is implied that Batman "Knew this was gonna happen" Johnny is not faster than the flash, watch the end and he soon realises that Batman lied not only to protect flash from harm but to boost his ego to such an extent that he would go along with it. Taking away all the years of life left in an instant IS NOT A NATURAL DEATH Batman feels responsible for the death of his parents but it was not his faut yet His deliberate manipulation of events leaves him guilt free? BATMAN IS RESPONSIBLE
This was a great example of why I liked Batman so much. He was willing to lie to his friend and gaslight them to believe they were too slow, then open up that dangerous opportunity to someone else that he was willing to expend. All of this, unknown to either group, for the sale of getting the job done. Had he made it apparent that this would happen, both teams would've hindered their chance to deal with Owlman. But the cherry on top is that he cared for Johnny and had him stop immediately since it was going to kill him even sooner.
@@alexaviercomics4241 He gave Johnny a vague warning of danger, he didn't elaborate as to what the danger was, intentionally leaving Johnny in dark on the specifics.
@@alexaviercomics4241 Yes but that doesn't make it any less of a sacrifice made by Batman. He intentionally gaslit Flash into thinking he was slower than Johnny Quick, to boost the others ego, and purposely left out information that might cause Johnny to reconsider his decision. Batman 100% sacrificed Johnny.
To be fair, Batman did warn Johnny of the dire consequences. He said he knew Flash's limitations, which implied it being the same for Johnny Quick. When Johnny insisted, he stressed on it again by telling him "It could be dangerous". But Johnny still insisted. Well, at least the man died a hero.
the fucked up part is that ita the justice league to comfort him not the crime syndicate even a team of murders can show some emotion to death of a teammate
Yeah Batman did choose between the two but he also gave a badguy the chance to save the day, a chance to redeem himself in part for the crimes he commited. There is something to say about that. I have to agree Batman pretty much caused his death through admission of the facts.
I think Quick was aware that the process was going to be fatal. He did point out that he was aware that it was dangerous. Bats can have a little blame, but I wouldn't put more than 25% on him, and given it was for saving the entire multiverse, that's not grounds for treating it as a problem.
I think he was happy to do it even at the costs of his own life. The very first thing Johnny Quick said was, "did we save the world?" Indicating, he cared more about saving the world than his own life. Then, him knowing that he was going to die anyways, there no time for him to be holding a grudge. Therefore, he just let it go at that and died peacefully.
It's these kinds of deep stories that make me love Batman. Even though what he essentially did was scumy, Johnny gave him props and they both acknowledged that it better he die than the Flash who continue to go on and save people
Batman knew The Flash was more than fast enough but he didn't want to lose a good man and friend. Johnny also knew this and I think this was his penance to pay for his sins and died knowing he saved the multiverse and spared The Flash's life.
I feel like Johnny also knew this was gonna happen to him but he chose to still do it. One could think that he did it because of ego like "haha yeah im faster than you flash" but he does literally say that its "his universe too" and he wants to save it.
watching this scene Ive always felt like Quick knew he was gonna die from it even before he went up there. Either way the, "Good one mate" and last breath hits deep.
theres a lot of ways you could argue this but it looks like batman was legitimately worried about johnny when he yelled "stop, i'm back!" poor johnny you are a great character
When wally hit the speed force he was also turning into pure energy but the speed force is probably at a higher frequency that where johnny was at and the speed force itself would support that energy state. Johnny hit a frequency that was very high but not supported by this dimension of energy rate so thusly his body took the loss. I mean this is all theoretically speaking. But it seems plausible.
Sorry I’m late. But I realized something. Johnny probably realized before he even vibrated that this be the end. Makes u wonder, maybe he was bad man who was surrounded by people worst than him, and he just kept trying to get out and start over. When the justice league came he realized he might not get that chance, but he could give the chance to those who deserved it. Johnny Quick, a man who lived through the bad, and finally got to do the right thing, and he got to die around good people. People that cared. At least he wasn’t alone
Yeah it's kind of cringey that he pretty much send Johnny to his death but Batman always looks out for his own, he would sacrifice any Crime Syndicate member than any member of the League.
Everyone here blaming batman but here is the thing: Johnny knew the risk and accepted it, and he probably knew it better than Batsy did since Batman is a genius but he is not omniscient, I doubt he knows too munch about the speedforce Listen to the dialogue: he said it was dangerous twice and I personally doubt he knew more than that himself
Jack Ream no it’s not. No matter what someone says not telling someone something is not the same as telling them something bluntly false. If batman had told him this is perfectly safe and you will totes survive it would be a lie but batman even said it was dangerous and Jonny still agreed
kamron spencer I never said it was the same level of severity, but a lie of omission IS still a lie. It isn't nearly as bad since he gave him an idea of what would happen, but he still wasn't honest
I love how in thee beginning of the movie flash says "I don't think he likes me" referring to batman, and near the end batman does this to protect flash
This is the reason why Batman is far more reliable hero than the others, if his real, I don't think that he will give a damn about this people's comments. as long as he can save billions of life, he will certainly will sacrifice a life or a world just to save humanity. it doesn't matter to him who will get hurt as long as he can save humanity. he will take all the blame and he won't he give a damn, I wonder y everyone hates him, I think that world would be gone if not for him.
Athena Underwood i live batman but if that's the case he would have killed the fucking joker years ago ,because of his stupid morals ,batman is responsible for the 1000s of death which the joker caused
Most of these comments are terribly off.. Johnny Quick died from his cells or molecules vibrating too fast. Cant exactly explain the exact reason or math of it. But it has to do with his cells reproducing so fast it ages you. He didn't travel any distance or go anywhere lmao.
@@Thaumtron exactly what i said like the only factors they got wrong were that at the speed he was going, johnny would have been way into the speedforce. And using up all the water and nutrients in your body also causes brain damage to the point on not being able to speak, so johnny shouldn't have been able to speak after collapsing.
The look on Flash and Diana's faces, their eyes, great work by the animators! They all know Batman, and his nature and philosophies, yet they are always shocked when he keeps on showing them who he really is. Sometimes I think their surprise comes from the fact that they know he does what needs to be done, when they wouldn't, and their surprise comes from the fact that he will do the things they lack the intestinal fortitude to do. They fear their own darkness. Batman doesn't fear his. They also all believe darkness is always bad. Batman knows many times darkness is necssary in order for good to prevail. Batman said it to the reverse Flash and his minions, in "Flashpoint": "I agree. Your lives aren't worth much", then Superman continued with, "but Flash's life is". As Stan Lee used to say, "Nuff said".
I think Johnny Quick was quite grateful to Batman. He seemed a good man, but he (for whatever reason) lived as a criminal. And in his last moment, he saved the multiverse (literally every universe in existence). Well, the Earths of the multiverse. And he seemed VERY satisfied that he could die like that.
I think people don't realize that Batman also cares for Johnny. Yes he had to made the Decision to pick between Johnny and Flash and obviously he didn't want his Friend to die, but he still cares about Johnny too, the Urgency, Batman yelling johnny to stop Vibrating the moment he's out of the portal. He knows it might be too late to stop him from aging too much but he still yelled, desperate to save him.. its cool to see Batman shows that kind of Emotion since he's always so dark and broody most of the time
I think what Superman and Martian Manhunter said in the end of Justice League Unlimited fits Johnny Quick a bit here too. "In many ways Lex Luthor was the worst mankind had to offer." "But he died saving us all."
Putting the fact that is definitely batman killing him aside, i like how he the first thing he asks is if the world is saved, before even addressing the fact he was tricked into aging himself to death. It shows that he really didn’t care he died so long as he helped them save everyone. The crime syndicate were exactly that: criminals. Not destroyers or conquerors like Doomsday or Darkseid, just people who used their superpowers selfishly. When push came to shove and the actual survival if the world was on the line, there were people among them like Johnny who were willing to give everything they had to help. It’s a not more nuanced than just “evil justice league” and it’s what i love. Even Owlman wasn’t truly evil, just seriously messed up in the head and selfish enough for it to make him a threat to everyone else.
0:40, despite being a criminal thug Johnny was ready to risk all to save the world. He really was “Johnny on the Spot”. As soon as he stopped vibrating his first question was “Did we save the world?” At that point it was the most important thing left for him. What a hero he could have been if he had made different life choices.
Well if you have a choice of two speedsters to use to get to the guy who is going to murder EVERYONE IN THE MULTIVERSE, and you know the one you use is most likely going to die, and time is of the essence, it makes sense not to tell them for the sake of avoiding any bickering and time wasting, and it makes sense to use the speedster who's a villain so that the hero one can keep living and doing hero things, and the villain one gets punished for his bad deeds while also redeeming himself by helping save the multiverse.
JQ couldve died at any moment when Batman was with Owlman, JQ was still vibing when Batman got back, and only died when he STOPPED vibing, that there is the mystery, we really dont know why JQ was able to vibe (stay alive standing) and only died when he was told to stop
What im really mad about is that the whole scene had batman basically disregard his "no killing" rule that he has stuck with for years without a second thought
This moment with Batman saving Flash's life is a great callback to the transporter scene at the beginning. Back then, Flash thought that Batman would risk his life, now he knows he never would
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Thank you for pushing back against this. I Hate how youtube marks videos as "just for kids" and deletes the comment section, instead of just making it so that UA-camKids can't see the comment section of videos.
Damn that’s fucked
That explains a lot thanks for that info
God, I dont know your channel specifically but I have been longing for an actual comment section on animated DC content.
So happy to see it.
Johnny Quick lived a villain, but he died a hero.
Gage Crawley You either die a villain, or live long enough to se- nvm he already did that too.
aren't you an edgy kid?
You know what, I had the same thought about that just now
+Gabe Saravia this reply was to gage crawly
Basically Obito then.
You know what the saddest part is? The Crime Syndicate didn't really care that Johnny died, but the Justice League still cared enough to gather around him in his final moments. That's fucked up.
Deadlyaztec27 Well that is one less super powered rival to compete with for resources, manpower, and territory. They are called the Crime Syndicate for a reason.
Deadlyaztec27 if you read the comics, these guys are always fighting with each other. So what do u expect lol
I'd kinda figured the saddest part was how Johnny didn't even seem to hold a grudge against Batman, guy knew Johnny would be going to his death but let him do it, yet Johnny can't even seem to hate Batman for it.
Probably because it'd be like showing weakness to them. If you care about one of your team mates to point his death affects you you might have others like family and loved ones that can be exploited and used to weaken you further
@@mitchellbaran7917 The first thing Batman does when he recovers from the transdimensional travel is yell at him to stop. With urgency. A desperate attempt to save him to, although he knows it's no use maybe he's been fast enough that Jhony might have a couple of years left in his tank. So of course he doesn't take it too personal, Batman would have preferred noone died, but forced to make the call he would chose to save his teammate. Jhony would have done the same thing.
I also believe the fact that he got to do one last imposible thing that would be remembered for ages soothed his ego, which probably helped him go out with a smile and a laugh.
I like batman's tone when he says " johny i'm back . stop vibrating . stop " it shows that batman also cares for quick ..
whohatemy commentisstupid He doesn't really care.
Doesn't give that much of a crap, since he didn't want the flash to do it.
He just knew that for every second Johnny stayed vibrating, he's aging more. The frantic voice Batman uses is to stop him from vibrating as soon as possible in an attempt of maybe having Johnny not be so old that he'd die.
There was simply a chance that they could have died from it, but batman had to take the risk. In the end he didnt make it back in time for quick to survive.
whohatemy commentisstupid if he cared he would have told Johnny he would die. That was pretty much all an act.
Batman knew it. But he preferred to lose Johnny instead to lose his friend.
Good one Batman.
Anybody would have done the same thing in a similar position.
AGREED, it was a tough decision but anyone would've done the same in Batman's position
And he was still concerned the way he told him stop
Jaylin Broan exactly someone gets it not really a hard choice
no shit
There is more to the build-up to Johnny's fate. At the beginning of the movie, when Wonder Woman states that Batman wouldn't risk the Flash's life needlessly.
Jacob Bielski Flash even says "I dont think he likes me very much."
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Actually Batman did tell Johnny it will be dangerous but he didn't listen.
@@mahilmehtar4155 he still tricke him; actually i think he said that to makes sure that Johnny would still do the Job even if he feels like this is dangerous, no that he was worried, at least not at this time
Yes
Owlman: You either die a villain or live long enough to become an hero
Johnny quick was hell of an example of thagb
I thought it was suppose to be the other way around.
+Riza yep
I thought it was die a hero or live long enough to become a villain
Triple Digit it doesn't matter
All this reminded me of is what Darkside said when Batman went up against him:
Darkseid: "Well played. Had the Kryptonian or the Amazon taken that gamble, they would have lost. They do not have the strength of character to destroy an entire planet to achieve success. But you? A human? You kill your own kind to win battles; an admirable quality."
Exactly G
You assume that Batman felt okay with the decision he made. He knew a sacrifice had to be made, he just didn't want to sacrifice Flash. Batman still cared about Johnny, hence why he told him to stop vibrating.
probotboyxxx
Finally a guy who gets it!
@@porobotboyxxx "willing to do something doesn't mean be ok with it"
@@sgcastle8389 I'm aware.
I just love the attitude 'It could be dangerous...' 'the bloody universe is at stake of course it's dangerous'
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
@@brian5771 no. It's already been established that speedsters age, regardless of the scientific discrepancy. The logic is that when speedsters move fast, their body chemistry is moving fast to process the energy.
@@BowenEros-gt8gn Not all the time. Because if that's the case, then Barry should be getting older and older as he uses his power. In that logic, he should be older than everyone else. Lol failed.
@@brian5771 no. There's been an explanation for why he isnt if he isn't and he probably is. And....that would depend how fast he goes....why are you giggling? And why are you having scientific debates over fiction?
@@BowenEros-gt8gn Nope. There's no explanation to it. Lol failed
Even though Johnny Quick was a criminal, he died a noble death saving the multiverse from destruction. Poor guy, he was as much of a loveable smartass as the Flash despite being a member of the Crime Syndicate.
ryan macdonald My take on the Syndicate is this:
Owlman: Complete nihilist, willing to destroy everything to prove a point.
Superwoman: Sadist, willing to destroy everything because she likes destruction.
Power Ring: Upgraded crony, probably rose through the ranks of a gang without any real thought to running the damn thing.
Ultraman: Muscle that became a Don. He likes being in control, and views the world as his property, but doesn't actually want it destroyed.
Johnny Quick: Cocky thief that hit the big-time, and hit it hard. Willing to kill, and definitely prefers being in control, but doesn't actually enjoy the thought of death and destruction.
+Zachariah Schneider Well he did want to leave...
The sad part is is that what he did was pointless. The moment Owlman went to Earth prime, his decision creates more realities, so he never could actually destroy earth prime.
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
@@brian5771 The reason why he aged like that is because he drained his body due to a speedsters rapid metabolism. He was vibrating so long and so fast all the nutrients is his body was used up forcing his body to shut down and caused an organ failure
"You knew this was gonna happen... Good one, mate." Johnny was a world-conquering villain, but he went out with style.
Speedsters never really die. They Join the speedforce. He lives on in flash and other speedsters. At least he died a heroes death.
+Blake Zerker actually johnny quick relies on speed juice.....not the speed force.......its doubtful that he would join the speed force
+Blake Zerker The one from earth 3 gets his powers from some wierd helmet........the one from the antimatter universe has the speed juice
+alan biju didn't know that. good to know.
Steroids then.
+alan biju he becomes one with the juice
"i'm not going to kill you . but i don't have to save you"
-Batman
Actually Batman did warn him it'll be dangerous. Johnny was too cocky and sure of himself.
"I promised batman i wouldn't kill you. But I'll be damned if I'm going to help you"
-Jason todd
Mahil Mehtar nah he just didn’t wanna lose flash, he would rather sacrifice him, no way he would’ve done it if he knew so Batman didn’t tell him
He tries to stop him from vibrating as soon as the job is done, he even has this worried tone in his voice.
He literally tries to save him in this clip.
@@mahilmehtar4155 He wasn't cocky, he was just willing to risk it to save his world
I like how previously in the movie they all told the Flash that batman wouldn't risk his life when they were testing the boom tube. it was basically foreshadowing that batman wouldn't risk him for this
I know. Underneath the scowling and mean mugs, Batman really does care about his teammates.
It's like Amanda Waller said in JLU, "Underneath the cold exterior, I've never seen a person care about his fellow man like Bruce Wayne."
kungfumaster51 That was on Batman Beyond when Amanda is talking to Terry
Was about to comment this but then I found your comment.
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
I like how Johnny wasn’t even mad at Batman for tricking him.
I always thought that he had no hard feelings as to Johnny, this is what he deserved but at least his final act was to save the multiuniverse. Not a bad way to go
Not tricking. They were trying to save the multiverse there, death was expected.
He didn’t trick him, Batman warned him at the beginning, it was lex who told him to do it
@@alexaviercomics4241
No, Batman “warned” Flash, not Johnny. Since he told Flash that he was too slow as to not risk him aging to death.
@@BoltBlades12 And then he told quick that it would be dangerous
I cried because Batman still caring about Johnny to stop vibrating.
Don’t cry
I am here bro
@@Gogo-oc8jv real one
Ultra-man:
You killed my boy Johny Quick!
Bat-man:
And you killed thousands.
Ultra-man:
Good point.
Lol
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
Brian he is not old he used up all the body’s nutrients to complete the portal he was basically sucked dry like a raisin
@@brian5771 Brian thanks. Because of you I figured out how to perform a one way trip to the future. I will skip the next one million years by hitting light speed. Why? 21st century technology suck ass
@@brian5771 plus I thought all Johnny did was max out his nutrients to the poi t he can no longer sustain himself
While sad Batman had a choice, he made the right one. Even johnny agreed.
He kinda manipulated him tho so..
He wasn't agreeing. He was patting him in the back for being a scumbag. Like, villains do that type of stuff.
@@chubbycalico8217 but Johnny said "good one" meaning that he approved and probably would've done the same thing. Perhaps in his mind his last thoughts were better him die than the Flash who would go on to continue saving people
@@chubbycalico8217 Sometimes being a POS is the only solution
@@chubbycalico8217 it could be dangerous the bloody universe is at stake of course is dangerous he was warned he wanted to be a hero he got his shot lol
Johnny Quick was like the only good person on the crime syndicate
Some of you may have not noticed but in the beginning of the movie, everyone questioned if Batman really cared for his teammates because he put the Flash in danger by testing the teleporter. But at the ending scene where Johnny is about to die, Flash immediately realized that Batman really cared for him because Batman didn't made him do the vibration and even lied to him that he is slow to save his life.
I just rewatched the film and finally got that. I never paid attention to that moment until this watch through when I was paying attention to it I realized that at the end he tells Flash no. He wouldn't let Flash do it if he wasn't absolutely sure Flash would survive. Since he wasn't 100% certain he let Johnny do it but hoped he was wrong. You can see the urgency in his expression telling Johnny to stop but was too late.
If his aging was supposedly because of time dilation, that meant that Johnny Quick vibrated for 50 years straight from his own perspective and that he had the ability to live without oxygen and food for that long. It’s amazing that he had the patience and fortitude for that.
Or he used his life force to power a portal for 35 seconds.
@@JDBeastmode How would that age him, though?
@@zurreal8087 it used his life force....
@@JDBeastmode What is that even supposed to mean? Is this some convention of sci-fi / magic I’ve never heard of?
@@zurreal8087 Basically he used literally all the nutrients and stuff in his body in the span of a few minutes resulting in rapid aging.
If you think about it, the Flash has the most dangerous powers of all the Justice League. Because only he has powers that can get himself killed.
Well, Batman could blow himself up if his gadgets malfunction.
Desmond Ng no batman's gadgets are way too advanced
Desmond Ng batman's gadget's don't count as powers.
Well Superman's died because his cells wouldn't stop absorbing sunlight/radiation so technically his powers have killed him before. Or at least the thing that gives him powers
I mean, green lantern could just beat himself to death.......
this is how jhonny quick became stan lee
Lol
+Andi Makkuraga FUN -NY!!!!!! CRACKIN UP!
Oh damn lol
another cameo
He would have been alive in that case =P
The fact johnny wasn't even mad about it is the saddest part he died a humble man
Batman does this in Death of the Family. He's about to tell Joker his real identity but Mr. J doesn't wanna hear it so he pushes Batman away and ends up falling to his death. Its later revealed that Batman was bluffing and didn't know who he was. He knew Joker wouldn't be able to listen. So he doesn't kill people, but he makes them kill themselves.....that's even worse but...shit. Good way to keep blood off your hands and still do the deed.
It's not really worse. He gives them a choice. They can all choose to live if they do things right, and it takes some serious crimes for Batman to let them die on their own anyway. We can all agree Joker would get executed even in countries and states that don't normally allow a death penalty if it was the real world. Even if you can predict something bad will happen if you do something right, it's not a guarantee that it will indeed happen. It shouldn't stop you from doing the right thing if you weight both things on your morals and see which one is the heaviest: risk or reward. And the reward of stopping Joker is almost always lives saved. In this case, Barry's life was saved and Johnny was a murderer. It's messed up, but that's the world Batman lives in.
But these are people whom he knows their psychosis and what it requires. He's asking them to do something they don't even want to do. That's like asking a kid if the want fruit when they've been bitching about cookies all day. You KNOW what their answer is gonna be. Its as much an illusion of choice as he gave Owlman. Either die from a planetary explosion. Or suffer for a week on a hostile empty planet with no food and die.
I can give it to you that he has responsibility over Johnny Quick's death, but Joker's? Owlman's? No. Batman's character always goes out of his way to keep his enemies alive. But you're making it look like it is his duty, and not his choice. Sometimes killing is unavoidable and uncontrollable, and you don't have to risk your own life or health to keep that from happening.. It is the criminal that puts Batman in that position, so why do you blame Batman?
why are you replying to a 2 year old post lol
Revan Shan he gave him the teleporter gun so that owlman could have escaped. You realize this right ?
Even if you can’t say that Johnny redeemed himself, he still did a brave and heroic act to save his earth and many others at the cost of his life.
Dude saved the whole Multiverse, I said this at least makes up for all the things he’s done.
On the bright side, there's another universe where he lived :)
You just made my day.
The Legion And in another universe, the Flash took Johnny's place and died.
;-;
+KpEMuKoBcu what?!?!?!
+TornadoAzulK4 in another universe, Johnny quick Was a women named Jennifer Quik
-You know this is gonna happen
-Because i'm Batman
Cường Anh Hoàng HAHAHAHAHHAHA It would be scandalous if he really did say that
But it defies the law of relativity... The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time... So, he shouldn't be old like that. Lol failed.
@@brian5771 he actually didnt travel in the way that you think, just ran faster than anyone could imagine, but ran himself dry in the process. If you suck out all the water and nutrients in your body, your skin wrinkles, your hair turns grey, and your organs fail. The only part they didn't get right is the speedforce exists in this universe, so johnny would have gone there before he reached the speed he was vibrating at.
Nice pun
"The bloody universe is at stake. Of course it's dangerous."
Words of a true hero. I'm pretty sure Johnny Quick would have been a fine hero had he grew up in a different universe.
he did, that's the point of the multiverse
Wally " Bruce...how could you..."
Bruce "When Barry died...Hal and I went to tell Iris. I still remember the look on her face when we told her... I know it was selfish of me...but I couldn't bare too put her through that again with you"
Such an underrated comment
Amazing!
Can you tell when and where did batman say this???
Or did you make this up?
@@aabevincent5601 I just made it up. It's my headcanon for what happens after the movie
@@richardschneider7629 Just a shame that no one would remember Barry post-crisis.
Well...that was quick
ba-dum tss!
Thank you, thank you I'm here every friday
TOO SOON
I see what you did there
ThreeDragonsTalk
I see what you did there too
Batman knew a speedster was needed to make that portal. He also knew Flash was beyond ready to make the ultimate sacrifice, yet wasn't willing to let an already good man and friend make that decision yet. Despite his speed, Flash is still human. Johnny was willing to do the job after Batman lied to Flash about being too slow. Quick lived his life believing nothing could touch him. It was in his final moments that he realized that he was given a small chance of doing the right thing and saved lives over hurting them. Batman gave a villain a shot at redemption and Quick grabbed it not knowing until the end what being a hero was like. Save the world/multiverse, and it will thank you with every passing day.
He was a doctor, a lawyer, a plumber, an architect, and a hero. RIP Johnny
That's the wrong Johnny
Batman pretty much killed Johnny Quick
Johnny quick knew the risk and the reward and fully consented to doing this and it was needed. Batman didn't kill anyone. At most you could call it manslaughter.
Flash was just as willing to participate but Batman willingly sacrificed Johnny Quick by lying to flash being too slow.
It doesn't matter if Batman told Flash not to do it, Johnny Quick acknowledged it could be dangerous and wanted it- he even said he was faster than Flash. It's his own cockyness that caused him to die, not Batman. Irregardless it's technically natural causes so it's all irrelevant.
Venomousbeetle
Flash volunteered first yet he didnt give Flash the choice. "It could be dangerous" is an understatement when it is implied that Batman "Knew this was gonna happen"
Johnny is not faster than the flash, watch the end and he soon realises that Batman lied not only to protect flash from harm but to boost his ego to such an extent that he would go along with it.
Taking away all the years of life left in an instant IS NOT A NATURAL DEATH
Batman feels responsible for the death of his parents but it was not his faut yet His deliberate manipulation of events leaves him guilt free?
BATMAN IS RESPONSIBLE
***** as johnny being flash's alternate they are stated to be fairly eqeul. so it didn't really matter who is faster it was Johnny"s own mistake
This was a great example of why I liked Batman so much. He was willing to lie to his friend and gaslight them to believe they were too slow, then open up that dangerous opportunity to someone else that he was willing to expend. All of this, unknown to either group, for the sale of getting the job done. Had he made it apparent that this would happen, both teams would've hindered their chance to deal with Owlman.
But the cherry on top is that he cared for Johnny and had him stop immediately since it was going to kill him even sooner.
Batman didn’t exactly sacrifice Johnny for flash, he did warn him at the beginning, Johnny was the one who volunteered to save the universe
@@alexaviercomics4241 He gave Johnny a vague warning of danger, he didn't elaborate as to what the danger was, intentionally leaving Johnny in dark on the specifics.
@@HowlingDoom even if he did, Johnny offered himself, to save his world
@@alexaviercomics4241 Yes but that doesn't make it any less of a sacrifice made by Batman. He intentionally gaslit Flash into thinking he was slower than Johnny Quick, to boost the others ego, and purposely left out information that might cause Johnny to reconsider his decision.
Batman 100% sacrificed Johnny.
To be fair, Batman did warn Johnny of the dire consequences. He said he knew Flash's limitations, which implied it being the same for Johnny Quick. When Johnny insisted, he stressed on it again by telling him "It could be dangerous". But Johnny still insisted.
Well, at least the man died a hero.
Now if only he could do that to the Joker.
Parallax77 He did, in "Death of the Family"
So basically Batman knew more about flash's power than flash. Bad ass
Batman knows more about everyone in the Justice League than anyone does I’d assume.
its batman what do u expect
"It could be dangerous" -Batman
Translation: It is most definitely dangerous and it will kill you, and I know it.
Perhaps its better to have a criminal to die a hero, than to have a hero die a....well, hero
It would certainly seem that way yes
R.I.P Johnny Quick, you may have been bad for a bit, but in the end you were a true hero
The animated DC universe is the best hands down! Such great story arcs, awesome voice actors and simply great film making.
IKR, if only their live action movies were this good
Done reading the desc. Thanks for your effort, man.
I just realized they still wiped 1.3k comments against my will. Very cool.
UA-cam you son of a butch.
@@Nullianak that's bullshit fuck the church.
"I won't kill you, but i don't have to save you."
Love these emotional Batman moments. The when at the end end of the Flashpoint movie when he reads his father’s letter...top quality stuff.
the fucked up part is that ita the justice league to comfort him not the crime syndicate even a team of murders can show some emotion to death of a teammate
Yeah Batman did choose between the two but he also gave a badguy the chance to save the day, a chance to redeem himself in part for the crimes he commited. There is something to say about that.
I have to agree Batman pretty much caused his death through admission of the facts.
I think Quick was aware that the process was going to be fatal. He did point out that he was aware that it was dangerous.
Bats can have a little blame, but I wouldn't put more than 25% on him, and given it was for saving the entire multiverse, that's not grounds for treating it as a problem.
You either die a villain, or live long enough to become a hero.
Anyone else got tears when johnny died ;(
Yeah, tears of joy!
Grammar Nazi Commander Of Unit 008 of course.
@@rebelion1600 likes mate. Not surprised 🤡🫵🏻
Wow.....I always hated Johnny Quick in the movie until now.....now he is my favorite Crime Syndicate member
he warned him it was dangerous when batman warns you, you listen!! and to be honest it was either flash or quick!
I think he was happy to do it even at the costs of his own life. The very first thing Johnny Quick said was, "did we save the world?" Indicating, he cared more about saving the world than his own life. Then, him knowing that he was going to die anyways, there no time for him to be holding a grudge. Therefore, he just let it go at that and died peacefully.
It's these kinds of deep stories that make me love Batman. Even though what he essentially did was scumy, Johnny gave him props and they both acknowledged that it better he die than the Flash who continue to go on and save people
Batman knew The Flash was more than fast enough but he didn't want to lose a good man and friend. Johnny also knew this and I think this was his penance to pay for his sins and died knowing he saved the multiverse and spared The Flash's life.
I respect your effort in the description.
Gotta love that he didn’t care that Batman tricked him, instead showing him respect for placing his teammate safety first
johnny quick never died, he joined Overwatch and blows things up
Fuck off
I feel like Johnny also knew this was gonna happen to him but he chose to still do it.
One could think that he did it because of ego like "haha yeah im faster than you flash" but he does literally say that its "his universe too" and he wants to save it.
We all have to care about what happens to the world, it’s the only one we got.
watching this scene Ive always felt like Quick knew he was gonna die from it even before he went up there. Either way the, "Good one mate" and last breath hits deep.
theres a lot of ways you could argue this
but it looks like batman was legitimately worried about johnny when he yelled "stop, i'm back!"
poor johnny you are a great character
When wally hit the speed force he was also turning into pure energy but the speed force is probably at a higher frequency that where johnny was at and the speed force itself would support that energy state. Johnny hit a frequency that was very high but not supported by this dimension of energy rate so thusly his body took the loss. I mean this is all theoretically speaking. But it seems plausible.
Sorry I’m late. But I realized something. Johnny probably realized before he even vibrated that this be the end. Makes u wonder, maybe he was bad man who was surrounded by people worst than him, and he just kept trying to get out and start over. When the justice league came he realized he might not get that chance, but he could give the chance to those who deserved it. Johnny Quick, a man who lived through the bad, and finally got to do the right thing, and he got to die around good people. People that cared. At least he wasn’t alone
" Good one mate"
now thats a lot of damage
“It’s enough to make a grown man cry... but not this man.”
R.I.P evil flash gone but not forgotten.
Yeah it's kind of cringey that he pretty much send Johnny to his death but Batman always looks out for his own, he would sacrifice any Crime Syndicate member than any member of the League.
It makes sense. Why would anyone sacrifice one of his friends instead of one of people you barely know but all they did was try to kill you?
Kinda cringey that you would call that cringey ngl.
Then what the fuck would you do in that situation. Sacrifice a life long friend when there’s an oblivious villain who has the same powers.
Everyone here blaming batman but here is the thing:
Johnny knew the risk and accepted it, and he probably knew it better than Batsy did since Batman is a genius but he is not omniscient, I doubt he knows too munch about the speedforce
Listen to the dialogue: he said it was dangerous twice and I personally doubt he knew more than that himself
I am vengeance I am the night I am a goddamn liar!
Amazing Zero He didnt lie... He just didnt tell the truth
'He didn't lie, he just lied.'
Carlo.... A lie of omission is still a lie.
Jack Ream no it’s not. No matter what someone says not telling someone something is not the same as telling them something bluntly false. If batman had told him this is perfectly safe and you will totes survive it would be a lie but batman even said it was dangerous and Jonny still agreed
kamron spencer I never said it was the same level of severity, but a lie of omission IS still a lie. It isn't nearly as bad since he gave him an idea of what would happen, but he still wasn't honest
Well he did lie about Flash being too slow, only to save his life.
I love how in thee beginning of the movie flash says "I don't think he likes me" referring to batman, and near the end batman does this to protect flash
The sad part was that Johnny quick was a good sport about it
This is the reason why Batman is far more reliable hero than the others, if his real, I don't think that he will give a damn about this people's comments. as long as he can save billions of life, he will certainly will sacrifice a life or a world just to save humanity. it doesn't matter to him who will get hurt as long as he can save humanity. he will take all the blame and he won't he give a damn, I wonder y everyone hates him, I think that world would be gone if not for him.
Athena Underwood i live batman but if that's the case he would have killed the fucking joker years ago ,because of his stupid morals ,batman is responsible for the 1000s of death which the joker caused
Athena Underwood Erm you know Batman doesn't exist right?
@@annnee6818 He said if
@@vantablack5690 Well, he gives the joker a chance after a chance, but depending on which comic follow up u read, he does in up killing joker
Yet the Joker always lives to see another day. I'm sorry man but you're wrong about that. The very problem is he can't do what needs doing.
We're all focusing on the wrong thing, I ask yall to read the description and salute this man. Made my night funniest shit I read
Most of these comments are terribly off.. Johnny Quick died from his cells or molecules vibrating too fast. Cant exactly explain the exact reason or math of it. But it has to do with his cells reproducing so fast it ages you. He didn't travel any distance or go anywhere lmao.
Dont know about aging, but im sure that he used up all his energy reserves and nutrients.
@@Thaumtron exactly what i said like the only factors they got wrong were that at the speed he was going, johnny would have been way into the speedforce. And using up all the water and nutrients in your body also causes brain damage to the point on not being able to speak, so johnny shouldn't have been able to speak after collapsing.
Funny thing is johnny just accepted his fate, he knew he was bad and deserved it. Him telling Batman it was a “good one mate” says it all
0:18 And before anyone asks no that is not Alec Baldwin voicing Batman but his brother William Baldwin
I love how much Batman cares about Flash in the animated series
Batman pulled a John constantine. "You gotta make people willingly walk into hell rather than force them..." another sin for Bruce to shoulder
Losing a speedster always sucks
The look on Flash and Diana's faces, their eyes, great work by the animators! They all know Batman, and his nature and philosophies, yet they are always shocked when he keeps on showing them who he really is. Sometimes I think their surprise comes from the fact that they know he does what needs to be done, when they wouldn't, and their surprise comes from the fact that he will do the things they lack the intestinal fortitude to do. They fear their own darkness. Batman doesn't fear his. They also all believe darkness is always bad. Batman knows many times darkness is necssary in order for good to prevail. Batman said it to the reverse Flash and his minions, in "Flashpoint": "I agree. Your lives aren't worth much", then Superman continued with, "but Flash's life is". As Stan Lee used to say, "Nuff said".
I think Johnny Quick was quite grateful to Batman. He seemed a good man, but he (for whatever reason) lived as a criminal. And in his last moment, he saved the multiverse (literally every universe in existence). Well, the Earths of the multiverse. And he seemed VERY satisfied that he could die like that.
I think people don't realize that Batman also cares for Johnny. Yes he had to made the Decision to pick between Johnny and Flash and obviously he didn't want his Friend to die, but he still cares about Johnny too, the Urgency, Batman yelling johnny to stop Vibrating the moment he's out of the portal. He knows it might be too late to stop him from aging too much but he still yelled, desperate to save him.. its cool to see Batman shows that kind of Emotion since he's always so dark and broody most of the time
Batman doesn't kill but he'll certainly sacrifice you
And if anybody has a problem they can see him wit da hands about it
I think what Superman and Martian Manhunter said in the end of Justice League Unlimited fits Johnny Quick a bit here too.
"In many ways Lex Luthor was the worst mankind had to offer."
"But he died saving us all."
Even evil speedsters are good guys. Doesn't even hold it against Batman.
"Good one" batman pulled the ultimate Chad Joke.
i dont know who johnny quick is but i fell bad 4 him
Dante Williams The evil version of Flash basically
Johnny Quick redeems himself by saving the multiverse.
Damn Batman. Batman looked out for his homie, which is to be expected, but he put dude out to die.
Putting the fact that is definitely batman killing him aside, i like how he the first thing he asks is if the world is saved, before even addressing the fact he was tricked into aging himself to death. It shows that he really didn’t care he died so long as he helped them save everyone. The crime syndicate were exactly that: criminals. Not destroyers or conquerors like Doomsday or Darkseid, just people who used their superpowers selfishly. When push came to shove and the actual survival if the world was on the line, there were people among them like Johnny who were willing to give everything they had to help. It’s a not more nuanced than just “evil justice league” and it’s what i love. Even Owlman wasn’t truly evil, just seriously messed up in the head and selfish enough for it to make him a threat to everyone else.
Love how Wonder Woman is the one who rushes and helps Batman when he gets back 😄
+soreal4eva because she is the only girl of the group
Wonder woman loves bat dick.You know this.
Flash always seems to be the good guy in every multiverse in one way or another
Johnny Quick was a Legend ♥️🙌🏻
0:40, despite being a criminal thug Johnny was ready to risk all to save the world. He really was “Johnny on the Spot”.
As soon as he stopped vibrating his first question was “Did we save the world?” At that point it was the most important thing left for him.
What a hero he could have been if he had made different life choices.
You have to wonder if Johnny knew even before, and took it as the last chance to redeem himself.
“You knew this was gonna happen... Good one, mate...” *draws last breath*
Batman basically murdered Quick. He wasn't faster than flash, he purposely had him do it instead of the real flash.
Well if you have a choice of two speedsters to use to get to the guy who is going to murder EVERYONE IN THE MULTIVERSE, and you know the one you use is most likely going to die, and time is of the essence, it makes sense not to tell them for the sake of avoiding any bickering and time wasting, and it makes sense to use the speedster who's a villain so that the hero one can keep living and doing hero things, and the villain one gets punished for his bad deeds while also redeeming himself by helping save the multiverse.
Ryuku TheGunslinger no he killed himself because he didn't slow down when batman told him to
No, as Quick said, him being faster than Flash was rubbish, Batman knew this would happen (him dying)
JQ couldve died at any moment when Batman was with Owlman, JQ was still vibing when Batman got back, and only died when he STOPPED vibing, that there is the mystery, we really dont know why JQ was able to vibe (stay alive standing) and only died when he was told to stop
What im really mad about is that the whole scene had batman basically disregard his "no killing" rule that he has stuck with for years without a second thought
Johnny: "And all that rubbish about me being faster than Flash.... You knew this was gonna happen."
Batman: *_stares grimly_*
On brand, I like it.
This moment with Batman saving Flash's life is a great callback to the transporter scene at the beginning. Back then, Flash thought that Batman would risk his life, now he knows he never would
It's amazing that it's always the last part of their life is what we remember to the people that passed away/died.
As Joker said in the last moments, people show you who they really are
Then he says green lantern isnt green enough
Unless he makes the Green Lantern green with envy over the Crime Syndicate's Green Lantern.