This is exactly why Brood War beats SC2 every time. SC2 is usually decided by one big fight, or an early harass - predictable and boring. Brood War on the other hand, its constant back and forth, insane swings, full supply fights over and over - and you're never sure who's winning. And they accomplish all this WITHOUT making giant death balls of units and with only a 12 unit group limit. Fucking impressive.
Also because its harder to build things in brood war, this means that sometimes experts are distracted while their huge army of 40+ units gets killed by well microed 12 units.
Seemed like Bisu was dishing out plenty of pain but Jaedong did a great job of channeling his inner Zerg spirit and having a seemingly endless army. Felt very thematic with the lore on top of being an exciting match.
Hey Falcon, sorry for the constant comments, but to answer your question about Drones sometimes exploding when they die.. if any worker dies while holding minerals or gas, there is an additional explosion with it the death animation. not sure what the theory is behind that (makes sense with vespene, odd having minerals explode).
10:03, 10:27 - 3 Corsairs actually died. Scourge do 110 damage each, so each time they explode green, a corsair has almost always died. JD's 6 scourges all connected with 0 waste which is quite a huge deal. Sorry I main Z in Broodwar so I'm very receptive to those successful hits :D
That was a sweet game, unbelievable players, also nice commentary! In brood war I think it is pretty normal for the zerg to be a little behind the protoss in supply , correct me if I'm wrong...
Yes, the commentator is completely unaware of basic pvz foundations, and it is normal for a zerg to be behind 30-40 supply. if the zerg ever reaches max supply thats usually a sign that he is going to win, because a maxed out zerg army is by far the strongest. ZvP is a very complex matchup, but no one knows high level broodwar macro anymore :(
Do you cast tournies? Like best ofs? Im Canadian and a huge Scarlett fan and shes been wiping the floor with everyone so far this year would love to see more of them.
at one point jaedong looked completely lost being 5 bases against 5 bases and 40 psi down. Then after losing the nexus at 12 Bisu had a huge vacuum in his production and his psi dropped even lower than jaedong's. that looked quite unexplainable since despite losing the nexus he had still over 3000 in bank as he was maxed out. Weird game
GT 15:14 "Do they have detection?" A: yes, but it gets killed by hydras 18:45 Jaedong (Z) has got to find some other AA besides scourge 23:30 Miracle save of Z 6th base! Is this the first time in the game that Z > P for supply? 27:30 Huge attack by P; but AT WHAT COST? Shuttle kills early lead to all reavers destroyed at the end. Jaedong's defilers have been devastating the entire game! Clutch plagues and clutch swarms! 1000 dead to 300 dead; wtg 1000 dead? Not sure why Bisu never sent DT's with his corsairs. If the overlords were gone, the DT's could have possibly wiped out some bases.
so many haters in these comments omg why not just enjoy someone whose still casting classic bw matches?? very big brains from some of you. Keep it up falcon!
This is a great game for jaedong. Table flipped on bisu face. Defiler plays a key role for zerg player. I always wonder the reason for corsair player not to use their spell.
Hey guys, I got a general question: Why do you often see players spam APMs at the start of the game? Is it just boredom? Or is it about showing off, pushing your average APM?
Those defiler spells are so powerful, especially dark swarm.. How do you beat that? It seems there's just no way to defend those bases.. lots of reavers+zealots maybe.
bisu didn't use reaver until very late, he mainly used zealots,got plague all over their face and cost him the game, I'd say more dragoon and less zealots would be the counter, since swarm is static, dragoon can move back to avoid swarm, and dragoon takes a lot of space which makes plague less effective to them than zealot.
kyjo72682 and when zerg try to move forward to catch dragoon, they will be met with storm. thats why we dont see many zealots versus zerg late game, plague and lurker are too strong against zealot.
Defiler is strong but takes time to get and even longer to fully upgraded, and it's heavy on gas also. Bisu was too greedy, didn't go for the kill when he could before JD got defiler and enough army to deal damage.
Thanks, that kind of makes sense! I still find it a bit strange given how many corsairs there were, you can probably make it last a while. It just seems so lopsided when compared to zerg using the dark swarm and getting away with murder.
Falcom you really need to build some high templars after researching the amulet upgrade. They receive 0 boost in starting energy, and they start with less than 75 energy. You consistently get this wrong.
Also the purpose of the corsair pile is to prevent a mutalisk switch. So even when they are doing nothing they are serving their purpose just by existing
The corsairs died. You need to pay closer attention to the scourge hits... you keep saying that the corsairs are slightly damaged when in reality the corsairs were killed and you were looking at the ones that survived.
lol i never understand players who try to mimic pro players. if you are good enough to confuse viewers, might as well get your name out there and get recognition. silly copycats.
@Valek O'Keefe I would agree with you O'Keefe if I had not paused the video @10:04 after he somehow managed to miss an obvious corsair being lost from those scourge lol it's so apparent, it's almost as if a newbie took over the casting during those 10 seconds
This is exactly why Brood War beats SC2 every time. SC2 is usually decided by one big fight, or an early harass - predictable and boring. Brood War on the other hand, its constant back and forth, insane swings, full supply fights over and over - and you're never sure who's winning. And they accomplish all this WITHOUT making giant death balls of units and with only a 12 unit group limit. Fucking impressive.
Also because its harder to build things in brood war, this means that sometimes experts are distracted while their huge army of 40+ units gets killed by well microed 12 units.
and the janky movement makes it hard to run across the map to win anyway
SC2 is much more diverse and balanced, on the other hand, half of the units and abilities from Brood War are borderline unusable.
@@Grondorn only if you're a noob
@@TheEnergizer94 Then iI guess Flash, Jaedong and others are also noobs since they never use them.
Seemed like Bisu was dishing out plenty of pain but Jaedong did a great job of channeling his inner Zerg spirit and having a seemingly endless army. Felt very thematic with the lore on top of being an exciting match.
Accurate.
UrNotRdy4Ths was never ready for this game!!!
5:08 FalconPaladin passes over the gas - as is tradition.
Hey Falcon, sorry for the constant comments, but to answer your question about Drones sometimes exploding when they die.. if any worker dies while holding minerals or gas, there is an additional explosion with it the death animation. not sure what the theory is behind that (makes sense with vespene, odd having minerals explode).
Awesome! Good game! Always love a good Zerg display
If I remember right drones explode when they're carrying gas
SPOILER.
27:14 That's why I love seeing Bisu playing. Even in defeat, the guy looks like a winner.
Drones "explode" when they die, if they're holding a minerals or gas packet, because they use that object's death animation instead.
10:03, 10:27 - 3 Corsairs actually died. Scourge do 110 damage each, so each time they explode green, a corsair has almost always died. JD's 6 scourges all connected with 0 waste which is quite a huge deal. Sorry I main Z in Broodwar so I'm very receptive to those successful hits :D
"does he?!?! no he does not".... false... that corcair fucking ate it
This was one of the best games ever.
The energy upgrades increase maximum energy to 250 and starting energy to somewhere around 63.
That was a sweet game, unbelievable players, also nice commentary!
In brood war I think it is pretty normal for the zerg to be a little behind the protoss in supply , correct me if I'm wrong...
Yes, the commentator is completely unaware of basic pvz foundations, and it is normal for a zerg to be behind 30-40 supply. if the zerg ever reaches max supply thats usually a sign that he is going to win, because a maxed out zerg army is by far the strongest. ZvP is a very complex matchup, but no one knows high level broodwar macro anymore :(
Who else is uploading videos as consistently as Falcon? How does he not have hundreds of thousands of views...
I give this game an EPIC tag!
bears and puppies oh my lol
These jaedong games are explained by day9 in his lets learn starcraft serie.
This isn’t brood war remastered but this was definitely a great battle. Bisu is my favorite player next to SoS in sc2. Great stuff
Well, it's remastered in that it is shiny and better graphics, anyway. :)
The middle left expansion does have gas, you can see it when you scrolled by.
Yeah, I got there eventually. :D
Saw you spotted it later but i already posted the comment :) Still my favourite caster no worries lol
Do you cast tournies? Like best ofs? Im Canadian and a huge Scarlett fan and shes been wiping the floor with everyone so far this year would love to see more of them.
I love these brood war casts I wish you could do them biweekly 😀
10:02 Bruh, you gotta check your vision m8
What..a..match....for us today
Doesn't increase starting energy by 50 it increases maximum energy
But side effect your starting energy is 62 after
Mind uploading a mirror matchup for brood war next time? I'm certain there are people like me who would like to see it, Falcon. :)
Find me a good one on bwreplays.com and I will. :)
Sounds good to me!
I LOVE TvT. Good TvT's are really fun to watch!
at one point jaedong looked completely lost being 5 bases against 5 bases and 40 psi down. Then after losing the nexus at 12 Bisu had a huge vacuum in his production and his psi dropped even lower than jaedong's. that looked quite unexplainable since despite losing the nexus he had still over 3000 in bank as he was maxed out. Weird game
What an insane game!
Well done, Falcon
Thanks. :)
GT 15:14 "Do they have detection?" A: yes, but it gets killed by hydras
18:45 Jaedong (Z) has got to find some other AA besides scourge
23:30 Miracle save of Z 6th base! Is this the first time in the game that Z > P for supply?
27:30 Huge attack by P; but AT WHAT COST? Shuttle kills early lead to all reavers destroyed at the end.
Jaedong's defilers have been devastating the entire game! Clutch plagues and clutch swarms!
1000 dead to 300 dead; wtg 1000 dead? Not sure why Bisu never sent DT's with his corsairs. If the overlords were gone, the DT's could have possibly wiped out some bases.
i thought Jaedong is gonna lose this game.... but that macro is too imba
Who the hell thought designing the Reaver too resemble a slug and move just as slow as one would be a good idea?
So good! 😁
so many haters in these comments omg why not just enjoy someone whose still casting classic bw matches?? very big brains from some of you. Keep it up falcon!
Epic.
> cannon placement is just pixel perfect
> 3 lings make it inside
....
Not sure why we don’t see disruption web from the Corsair utilized. Would make that base attack so much more affective
Lost a corsair due to scourge hits... 'wow good micro by bisu'
This is a great game for jaedong. Table flipped on bisu face. Defiler plays a key role for zerg player. I always wonder the reason for corsair player not to use their spell.
you have to get a fleet beacon to research it and fleet beacon has no other use in ZvP so not really worth it
Hey guys, I got a general question: Why do you often see players spam APMs at the start of the game? Is it just boredom? Or is it about showing off, pushing your average APM?
A combination of factors, including all the stuff you said, and also warming up your fingers for when you DO need 300 APM in the late game.
PLAGUUU OP
Bisu. Go go go! I like bisu
hell yeah!
Those defiler spells are so powerful, especially dark swarm.. How do you beat that? It seems there's just no way to defend those bases.. lots of reavers+zealots maybe.
bisu didn't use reaver until very late, he mainly used zealots,got plague all over their face and cost him the game, I'd say more dragoon and less zealots would be the counter, since swarm is static, dragoon can move back to avoid swarm, and dragoon takes a lot of space which makes plague less effective to them than zealot.
kyjo72682 and when zerg try to move forward to catch dragoon, they will be met with storm. thats why we dont see many zealots versus zerg late game, plague and lurker are too strong against zealot.
Defiler is strong but takes time to get and even longer to fully upgraded, and it's heavy on gas also. Bisu was too greedy, didn't go for the kill when he could before JD got defiler and enough army to deal damage.
Like!
stop saying you don't know, we knew you don't know
This guy missing so much hapening during the game..
Why no disruption web use?
I think because it lasts for such a short time. I haven't ever see a pro use it.
Thanks, that kind of makes sense! I still find it a bit strange given how many corsairs there were, you can probably make it last a while. It just seems so lopsided when compared to zerg using the dark swarm and getting away with murder.
wow epic game
this micro was no Bisu's
Falcom you really need to build some high templars after researching the amulet upgrade. They receive 0 boost in starting energy, and they start with less than 75 energy. You consistently get this wrong.
Templar with the upgrade build with 12 extra starting energy. liquipedia.net/starcraft/High_Templar
Good match! It's a shame a quited playing starcraft since the 2017. I still play time to time of coarse but just don't really the
same punch for me.
WHY DO NO PROS EVER GET THE DISRUPTION WEB UPGRADE FOR CORSAIRS??!!
Its kind of sad zerg gas not important vs toss something like they heavily gas dependent vs bio terran
At 10 minutes one of those corsairs died to the two scourge. FYI.
Also the purpose of the corsair pile is to prevent a mutalisk switch. So even when they are doing nothing they are serving their purpose just by existing
for me the best protoss is bisu, the best zerg is jaedong or larva and the best terran is flash
UrNotRdyForThis gg
playguuu
The corsairs died. You need to pay closer attention to the scourge hits... you keep saying that the corsairs are slightly damaged when in reality the corsairs were killed and you were looking at the ones that survived.
Yeah he said so many things that weren't true... Just not paying attention
economic!
FIRST!
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Is One Trick Wednesday going to return?
It is pretty racist to call bisu a yellow protoss player
lol i never understand players who try to mimic pro players. if you are good enough to confuse viewers, might as well get your name out there and get recognition. silly copycats.
Putin vor
You really need to not talk so much during the video
@Valek O'Keefe I would agree with you O'Keefe if I had not paused the video @10:04 after he somehow managed to miss an obvious corsair being lost from those scourge lol it's so apparent, it's almost as if a newbie took over the casting during those 10 seconds
Jaedong!!! super !) my favorite zerg