How an '80s Pop Song Destroyed Computers
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
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In around 2005, an undisclosed PC manufacturing company discovered that certain models of their laptops would unexpectedly crash if the user played Janet Jackson's 1989 hit "Rhythm Nation" nearby.
What on earth is happening here? Is the song a form of secret malware? How can it be fixed?
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I think I will
I don't feel like it
So no
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Bad
There is a way to do it on modern computers but it involves an extra step.
If you play the song near a modern laptop while also pressing or holding down the power button, it causes the machine to shut down.
Trying it out right now im so exci
Goddamit, I actually thought that made sense for a moment. >.<
That's clever.
@@AlexReynard It actually makes sense. The only difference is: that's the expected behaviour and not happening accidentally! 😁
COOL!
The song force shutdowns the PC. It even shows the bios to shut it down.
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Indeed, he even plays Helter Skelter at 7:20
holy shit 😂
Why you need skull emojis?
@@intelinsidecomputer who cares? stop focusing on stupid stuff
@intelinsidecomputer why do you need to ask?
Fun fact to only me: Rhythm Nation was the first CD my parents bought me, preceding years of debating and budgeting which albums would be purchased on CD and which would be on tape. I made pretty good choices, as I still have the vast majority of CDs I’ve collected since 1990. OK, back to the video lol
Thanks auntie
This comment takes me back to when I was a kid and my older brothers would take me to buy CDs with them. Because we had so little allowance between the three of us we always bought albums that were popular or were being recommended by the sellers. I much prefer the current time of being able to discover new artists and genres using the UA-cam algorithm without ever having to leave the house over being too broke to afford to listen to something different.
I got the album that was the first thing ever sold online: *Ten Summoner's Tales* by *Sting* . 😁
Another one of a kind video, from a channel so uniquely special on this platform. Youve got such well-researched and interesting videos, and you may also be the one channel that I don't skip the sponsored bits. Love your stuff, NationSquid!
GOSH DAMN IT GORDON STOP PLAYING JANET JACKSON IN THE TEST CHAMBER
Resonance cascade reference
glad to oblige a fellow scientist
Yes Gordon. He's right. Stop now.
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I don't know where I was even going with this. Maybe a multi-generational thing? Pay me no mind.
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No, it’s Nigel red
Dude. Your subtle Beatles references get me EVERY TIME. as an IT major who is also a huge Beatles fan, the line about the dentist and your coffee is so insanely specific that I feel so proud that I understand it. Love love love your videos brother. You’re awesome
To be honest a ksi song could destroy computers.
From the screen
To the ring
To the pen
To the king
@@jonathanthegooberwhere’s my crown
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I swear to god, I never like to skip his sponsors, they are too good
What are those about? I use a custom app and it won't let me see any ad😅
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@juansotelo3996 it skips a part of the video for you?
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In this video there's an old fashioned ad (someone in one comment said it's the style from the 60s but I don't know). It has this one kind of voice over everyone recognises and even a laugh track. 😂
The creepy pasta video or the one about scary yt videos (can't remember which one, it's been a while) has an ad which was a parody of the Ring. I can't remember the other ones but every one of the recent Nation Squid's videos has one.
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Audio engineer & radio person here:
On our station we generally don’t up pitch songs mostly, and usually we’ll cut verses etc to have versions to make up time. Sometimes we’ll speed it up to 5% but you really don’t wanna be messing with the pitch there, it makes most modern music weird.
Also any decent turntable is quartz locked to have less than 0.2% deviation from perfect speed. The pros of vinyl is that it can store well above 20khz so if you slow it down it still sounds pretty good (you need a microline or similar & 96khz sampling or higher to use this.., but almost every vinyl after the mid 80s is digitally made with lot to no data above 22kHz. The other pro is lifespan. There’s no bitrot issues on a vinyl unlike CD / DVD, HDD, SSD etc…
The life to vinyl also comes from the rumble and clicks etc… that are all considered 'erronious’ by engineers!
With the bios thing, that’d be easy to run on modern hardware but would need a rogue update / factory to install. Its big effect would be with airgapped systems.
For context, a basic 192khz sound card can send all the data of an fm signal, mono, stereo and rds data. It’s easy on any decent sound card to send data above hearing ranges.
Bit rot is only really an issue for really early CDs and cheap CD-R/CD-RW and DVD-R/DVD-RW discs. Outside of writeable/re-writeable discs, optical discs that were produced and sold as read-only from the mid-90s onward won't experience bit rot for at least a few centuries, and unlike vinyl, you can create infinite lossless copies and backups from a single disc. The bigger concern with optical media is scratches and delamination from improper handling and storage, and optical sensors failing.
Vinyl begins to taper off between 16 and 18khz, which is why people prefer it, it sounds "warmer" because of the signal loss. I have a massive vinyl collection but the signal to noise ratio and frequency response of even the best players and stylus cartridges can never match CD. Even though we can perceive frequencies above 20khz I have my doubts other than pleasing harmonic distortion that vinyl can hit above 20khz, physics is at play and that can destroy a lot of needles.
Fellow audio engineer here.
@@MrNEWDY Also doesn't help that a lot of early CDs were pretty awfully mastered since audio engineers of the time weren't used to working with the new format. Then you had the "loudness war" of the 90s and 2000s where everyone was competing to have the loudest wall of sound. The CD format was dealt a pretty bad hand by factors completely unrelated to its quality as a format.
Was that same thing in the 2000s?
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12:08 That’s Window 10, not Window 11.
Also: too thin for a mechanical hard drive? SATA SSDs are just as thick as 2.5 inch HDDs. And those are, very, much thinner than 3.5 inch HDDs.
@@fairphoneuser9009he didn't specify a sata SSD so what is even the point you're trying to make. Most if not all modern laptops use a M.2. Also from what I can see the sticker is Intel 11th gen or newer.
@@acasualmusiclistener7919 Most laptops still didn't get that much thinner and could still contain a SATA SSD/HDD.
@@fairphoneuser9009 if you're talking about AliExpress then sure but every reputable brand has moved to M.2 SSDs or soldered memory. Some budget laptops could contain space for a sata drive but it is left empty as it is cheaper to use eMMC memory instead.
These advertisements are so good it makes me actually watch them
My man is holding the laptop in a really interesting way. The first clip is the power button, and the second clip the laptop battery.
Awesome video. Love the concept of connecting seemingly disparate things.
This is almost the plot of the Patlabor movie (1989), though in that case it was a deliberate bug in the operating system.
if you mess with that song, you get the... long...horns?
LOL windows longhorn great joke
@@lucythedemonpuppy4222 there's also an easter egg in the intro, next to the "amount of f's i give" word file, there's a briefcase called "Longcase". Pretty clever since Microsoft was not very happy about the LH leaks
windows reference‼️
@@gonderage hello everybody my name is leenus sebastian
So that radio station clip is from Kiis 1065 in Sydney Australia, i am about 99% sure they faked it for virality.
Pretty sure you can see old mate hitting the power switch when it goes black too
So it'd be 66% then if it was from Austria.
12:09 I have a Lenovo laptop with a HDD inside that has similar dimensions and that laptop shown clearly has a Windows 10 taskbar
Yeah, what is this guy? Think we're rich. I haven't ever used a solid state drive
I think the computers did not like that song and that's the real reason why they crashed.
6:23 Bass is the onion of music
garlic
Nutmeg. Take too much and you die (of funk)
@2:15 This also might be humanity's key to one day defeating Skynet!
7:21 That face had me laughing harder than it should
Second Beatles-related login username after Baby's In Black Windows 98
12:08 “and the machines are running Windows 11”
*shows a Windows 10 laptop*
I understood the meaning of what he was saying, I’m just kidding
new video just dropped while im at school, i aint going to do work
13:50 There was one virus that could damage a computer's BIOS called CIH (or Chernobyl) but it was from the late 90s and only affected one BIOS type from motherboards containing a certain chipset.
Why would that 60s dad be okay with his kids dropping acid? I mean, wouldn't that burn a hole in the shag carpet?
7:21 Bro played does guitar strings like his life depended on it 😭😭
Omg is this entire thing a Soul Eater reference?
Tried this one myself on an old laptop i deem useless, didn't quite work, the HDD was quite similar to those documented too.
might try again, see if anything happens.
I’m interested, are you going to make an update on this?
@@JBolt1089 maybe, not sure.
I'll have to sacrifice a hard drive if I will.
Don't really want to.
Most it'd do would probably slow it down or kill it.
I'd guess the PC would just freeze and on reboot it'll fail
It's more likely that the song induced a small amount of voltage in the coil that is part of the armature in the hard drive. The coil in the armature is actually a voice coil and if there's a loud enough sound nearby it may induce current. It should have been filtered out but may not have been. This could cause the head to move or freeze in place, which could crash windows.
4:00 Pleasantville reference lol
rhythm nation is a really good song, the way it changes key for the main line of the chorus.
There's a video fo a guy yeeling at a JBOD causing the latency to spike up - literally "old man yells at cloud".- But the JBOD didn't crash, it returned to normal operation once he stopped yelling.
Plz tell us more about that Chipmunks Beatle vinyl!
And here I was expecting it to be Rick Astley.
It was a billion-to-one freak accident. Also, for anyone who gets their understanding of physics from cartoons, a note _above_ an object's resonant frequency won't work. It needs to be _a very specific pitch_ at a high volume for an extended period of time.
Bass the unappreciated instrument.
Yep...
"I know it's Michael, not Janet; shut up!" 😂
If you don't crank the volume for Rhythm Nation... classic
E on the guitar sounds so nice, and it's very E-asy to play.
Awesome video!!
Sponsors should be beating your door down & throwing money at you - such watchable sub-productions!
A note on Kyle and Jackie O's vid - it's almost certainly fake. They're well known to be absolute hacks.
Quite the channel journey to go from creepypastas and args to tech vlog.
I was very disappointed to hear so little technical explanation in such a long video about a fascinating phenomenon, like how the resonant frequency had that impact. Also, whether your tested hard drive was succeptible would have been an easy question for someone more technical.
The following explanation appears in a follow-up article to the one depicted (please link your sources in future), titled "Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers, follow-up":
"Note that the disruption from the natural resonant frequency does not crash the hard drive, as a number of outlets erroneously reported. It merely disrupts the hard drive’s proper operation long enough for it to result in the operating system crashing. For example, if it causes a kernel page-in I/O operation to fail, that would be considered a fatal system error. The damage is probably not permanent. The sustained disruption was enough to cause a critical I/O to fail, but removing the audio source removes the disruption, and the drive recovers normal operation."
In laymen's terms: the hard drive becomes temporarily inaccessible, and after some period of time time, Windows thinks the situation is unrecoverable, and stops.
A more recent problem like this appeared a decade or so ago with fire suppression systems. The release of IG55 would get the hard drives in the data center to vibrate, sometimes to destruction. It was solved with mufflers on the discharge nozzles.
12:09 that is Windows 10. And although it's very rare now, there are still some new computers that come with 2.5" 5400RPM HDDs.
7:57 This is a misconception. Microwave oven operate at 2450MHz, which is way below the resonance of water molecules. If they were tuned to that frequency, the food would only heat on the very surface. Some bigger ovens for heating chunks of meat actually operate at 915MHz. Yes, 2450MHz (2.45GHz) is almost right in the middle of the 2.4GHz Wi-Fi band, and if your oven has a bit more leakage, your Wi-Fi can be knocked out. And no, microwaves don't cause cancer.
Interesting enough there was quite the talk on this hard drive situation and the song, so the host played that song with it resulting the program went off for a moment during the song actually.
Super interesting video, and loved the little guitar moment 🎸 nation squid rocking out!
Wasn’t it proven that Janet’s video wasn’t actually the problem, but the HDD manufacturer itself?
I still think it's weird that Janet Jackson's song "China Love" samples a track from the video game Legend of Mana.
Now play "That'll Be The Day"! 🍿🎸🎶
This video title makes me nervous to watch in case it still effects Modern Machines 💀
just make sure you don't hear subtle clicking and high-speed rotation in your computer and you'll be fine.
If you have an SSD you're unaffected. Plus, at least for windows, newer audio drivers suppress the afflicting frequencies.
80s songs bring me back to 2005s, my early childhood.
I voluntarily distory my computer when the ksi song plays.
these vids are cozy. keep it up
Somehow something that can be explained in 1-2 mins is stretched out to 17 mins
Thankfully!
i saw the notif and instantly knew it was about a song playing at a certain laptop's had drive's resonant frequency yippee
btw raymond chen mention!!! he wrote a bunch of blogs on win32 api usage, because the actual win32 docs suck :]
Wow. Tour narrative literally went in circles towards the end. But it was an interesting video, just should of been 5mins
How a 2020's song destroyed computers (Thick Of It)
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling
Always drama when I ring
Never knew Nation had good guitar chops. Also, I too am a huge fan of Buddy Holly.
Like the videos man nice to watch while high keep it up👍
Never heard of it, and I have used PC's since the 80's.
Playing Janet Jackson could definitely ruin your computer, stereo system and your ears
Can we now somehow make an SSD that will spontaneously combust when Crazy Frog Axel F is played at a high enough volume?
you can make any song break anything if it is played at a high enough volume. Even Axel F's Crazy Frog
There was a b side track on the mission impossible movie soundtrack single, that killed amplifiers.
7:20 This...
Just yes
Basses are different than onions though:
No one cries if you chop up a bass.
I wouldn't be so sure of that.
@6:27 …you’d probably miss the bass if it wasn’t there. * gestures to Metallica’s …AJFA *
I don’t care what anyone says, I’m trying this at work tomorrow.
Talking about funk bass without mentioning Bootsy? For shame!!! Hits on the 4th or 8th is what funk (and disco and descendants) is all about and is used in Rhythm Nation. :)
sponser skip 5:54
@10:40 Sometimes I play these videos at 1.25x if i have to get going and I'm cutting it close..
A Cypress attack based off of sound to attack multiple different type of hard drives resident frequency
I would say it would be terrifically possible but not practically possible
I remember hearing something about this awhile ago
the video with the ibm ntbks its wrong, that ntbk has a propietary app that prevent damage on hard drive if detects that the hdd its in a forced position and dont let spin normal it will stop, if the motor detects a fall or kick it stop to prevent data lost too - interesting video take your like.
I would listen to an NationSquad album
When you started playing the song my game crashed
this is not super related but i'm super curious to know if you have any opinions/love for talking heads?
I could have sworn I've seen this video before, is this a reupload? Probably due to copyright issues? Or I might have misremembered, and it was a different channel that covered this topic. Either way, deja vu.
I thought the same exact thing when I started watching it. I swear i've seen this video before, this is either a reupload or someone else recently made a video that was just like this on the topic
Paul MCCARTNEY is that you?
Old thumbnail a music note in a giltchy effect with a mouse cursor
There are things in this world that you're not meant to see
Now the voice of a deity permeates
You feel above yourself
And now you'll pay the price
With your sacred life
When you ascend past yourself you will gaze down below
A reflection of exactly how far you've come
Well, don't you want to shine?
Rise and face the stars
Given second life?
--
PETRICHOR-STAINED DESTINY
EPICENTER OF ENTROPY
TWISTED GARDEN, LACED WITH POWER
PORTRAIT OF THE SCATTERED FLOWERS
You'll never be the same again
(ALL SHALL BOW IN SERVITUDE)
This is the beginning and the end
(ALL SHALL BOW!)
--
THE GODS OF THIS WORLD BECKON AFTER (You are bound to create)
IT BLOOMS, YOU WILL FIND THAT WE'RE CURSED (Speak in riddles and games)
AS YOUR MIND TRANSCENDS MATTER (New beginnings you've made)
NOT THE LAST AND YOU WERE NOT THE FIRST (To the flowers they pray)
NOW ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED
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Ehh you should replace the belt of your record player if it plays too fast. (or just get a proper player if it actually sounds like that out of the box)
Nice reference to the dentist and coffee!
IBM Deathstar?
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Peggy Sue caught me off guard xD
Man I love these videos
nationsquid got a lil silly in this video
Speeding up the song makes it end quicker...😮
We need Mike Myers Austin powers back
I love your videos!!! ❤
Same
i dunno, queen used the bass pretty well, in there rock songs, and i punk too
0:01 Windows XP again!!!!
In 2024 it's KSI new song now
How does the speed affect mp3s or MP4s or whatnot ? Does the music sound different?