The Sopranos | The Onion Ring Theory
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- Today let's discuss a Soprano Theory regarding Tony Soprano's fate at the diner in the final episode, and that is whether Tony died of a heart attack.
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Tony never died. He jumped over the table booth tackling the shooter and finally proving that indeed he had da makings of a varsity athlete
After that he ran into his tactical jet and rode into space. Hey if we are tossing realism out the window we can have fun.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Finally someone gets it
Its true its on the blue ray collection
Last time I was this early Chris used to wait in the car and as far as I’m concerned HE SHOULD STILL BE THERE
Whatever happened there?
He left him in the car !!! 🤣😂😭😭😭😭
John, he was just-
Fuck he was just! Everybody’s got a gd opinion!
@@Psyfi85 *Uncle Philly turns around*
Christopher's "Heart attack by 50" line always hits hard because James Gandolfini died of a heart attack at 51 :(
I was talking to my brother about that scene. This was my first time finishing the series.
For real
Yup.
0:28 "If they made it today, they would probably have Tony visiting a therapist, Meadow would date a Black guy, and they'd probably make one of the mobsters revealed to be gay!" 🤣
political correctness gawn mad!!!1
Haha, the Sopranos was so ahead of its time.
The Wokepranos 😂
Hahaha
Yeah but the problem today would be Tony and the rest of the cast would talk about how great all those things are and it would be acceptable. Unlike how it was treated in the show more realistically Tony hiding the fact he has a therapist, Tony being racist and homophobic(didn’t want to Kim him cause he made the most money but Tony was definitely disgusted by it) have those things in a show doesn’t make it work it’s when it becomes preachy and the show creators Pat themselves on the back for it.
The onion ring was a made guy, Tony wasn’t, there was nothing he could do.
“The onion was deep fried it was real greaseball shit.”
AHAHAHAHA!!! Fucking awesome bro! 😂 Legendary comment man!
Both of you 😆
@@shaneludwick2139 thanks Merry Christmas.
@@masterzombie161 Merry Christmas braa ✌️
He died on the vine.
It peted out...
“I shouldn’t have to come here; onion ring in my hand…”
He died on the vine
Did he move or something?
Oh no one knows what I'm talking about!
An onion ring at 47 years old. He was just a kid.
Tony was shot and went into a coma only 7 - 8 months before the series finale. An injury like that can have a lot of long term effects. And with Tony not bothering at all to take care of himself, his health is definitely really bad.
Onion rings. It was real greaseball shit.
The way you effortlessly throw quotes into your videos while explaining scenarios is absolutely top tier 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
South Beach strumpet series subspecies
It was the gababgul
Don't you blame the gabagool
Full of fat and nitrates 😂
This made me howl lol
OOOHĤHHHH! THE language on you!!!?
20 fucking years
I compromised I ate onion rings off the radiator
Not a peep
Sad when they go young like that
When they go?!
@@lewcarl958God rest his soul
That profile pic😂
47, he was just a kid
@@eaauto6182that fucking onion ring, i cant even say his name
That sarcasm at he beginning making fun of the "They'd never make this today" crowd. Love it! LMAO
What?
@@Rinksideripseverything that was mentioned in that actually happened in the show “meadow dating a black guy and a mobster revealing he was gay”.
However even if he was making fun of that crowd, he’s still right.
@@ElliotNess-jg8gt Why wouldn't they make that these days? I'm confused... I hear people say that they "wouldn't make a show THIS GOOD these days".
@@Rinksiderips Seems people don't understand that even in this day and age, shows have killing, gore, grape, drugs, alcohol, infidelity, etc. People just need to stop watching ragebait youtube videos and watch the shows.
@@dotFAFOyep. I hear similar bullshit about Blazing Saddles CONSTANTLY.
"ThEy CoUlD NeVeR mAkE tHiS tOdAy, tHe WoKe LeFt WoUlD cAnCeL iT"
No, actually, movies with overt racism as a central theme and subject are made all the time, to this day. What matters is the context of something like a character saying the N word. Where's this "woke left" boogeyman when Tarantino makes yet another movie littered with white people saying the word in a derogatory way? Why didn't they throw a fit and cancel a movie like Sorry To Bother You for its "Ni**er shit rap" scene?
Maybe it really is simply a fact that context matters, that there's layers of meaning to art beyond its face value, and just because a character in a movie says something racist, it doesn't make the director or that actor racist? Being able to decipher these "layers of meaning" from art is what we call "media literacy," and unfortunately it seems to be in short supply these days.
The supposed "woke left mob" that Fox News constantly claims is coming to "cancel" all the slightly controversial media people love doesn't actually exist, and words like "woke" have been taken wildly out of the context of their origin, twisted into new meaning, and co-opted to push more divisive "us vs them" narratives on scared, ignorant people who want their biases confirmed by their media.
Blazing Saddles and the subject of racism is only one example of this concept.
The N word is used constantly by what the movie very explicitly states are morons (Gene Wilder's character himself calls them that) as a way to humorously criticize the simple-minded bigotry that was accepted by society in that time, to point out and make fun of an ugly part of the old west many Hollywood westerns used to pretend wasn't a thing in the pursuit of depicting the west as a fairytale era where everything really was better.
In fact, Blazing Saddles probably had a much harder time being made BACK THEN, when it actually got made, than it would've today, BECAUSE it criticized Hollywood norms of the time and pointed out the absurdity of racism that was, even then in the 70s, still more widely-accepted than it is today.
The fools who blather non-statements like this about media are usually boomers who are stuck in a false mindset of everything from their time being better. I've found on more than one occasion that the idiots who say "Blazing Saddles would never be made today, it would get canceled because the woke left is too sensitive" actually read the film's humor from a completely different angle than Mel Brooks intended:
they just think racism itself is funny at face value. You know, the "we're all a little racist" people who would say that as a "joke," constantly use casual racism and cop out by always claiming to be "just joking" and call anyone who is put off by it "too sensitive" and say they have "no sense of humor," then get horrifically offended as if you accused them of murder when you bluntly call them out on being an actual racist.
These are the people who laugh when the old lady in the film says to the sheriff "up yours, Ni**er!", not because of the actual intention of the joke (a seemingly sweet old lady being capable of such a disgustingly dismissive and vicious, racist remark in response to being asked if they're having a good day, all because the man who asked it was black).
No, they laugh because they just think a black man being called the n word is funny, full stop.
Another recent example of this lack of media literacy leading to people enjoying media that criticizes their flawed values for all the wrong reasons: when Green Day had a concert recently where they performed American Idiot while a Trump mask was tossed around by the crowd, Billie Joe Armstrong changed the lyrics from "redneck agenda" to "MAGA agenda," and mockingly held up the Trump mask in a show of defiance. Facebook was flooded with boomers and chuds galore, crying that Green Day was "better when they weren't political," acting like criticism of people like Trump wasn't ALWAYS a part of their message.
Or how about people who enjoyed Rage Against The Machine getting upset when they realized Killing In The Name is not just a "badass song about not giving a fuck and sticking it to the man" (the man, in their view, being things like democrats and "the globalists," which is just code for "rich Jewish people"), but rather a direct criticism of American police, stating that many cops are also KKK members, or at least might as well be KKK members.
It's a tale as old as time. Even Shakespeare wrote his plays to contain subtext that criticized and poked fun at the same authority figures and aristocrats who filled the seats of his theaters and claimed to be fans of his work, while also completely missing the point of it and the fact that it was criticizing them.
It's nothing new, but it's definitely more common in the information overload age.
It was revenge for Pie oh my , and a lot of other things.
Pie-Oh-My was a horse and Tony wasn’t. It was among the horses. Real glue ball sh$t.
Regarding the "gradualness" of a heart attack: actually a massive coronary can shut your lights off almost instantly. Happened to my uncle Harry who I used to think was Frank Sinatra when I was a kid
Onion Ring: Cholesterol? He's GOTTA GO!
The irony. Tony eats beef and sausage by the carloads but dies by a blooming onion!
Tony having a heartattck sounds like the best ending!
That's how it ended for the actor.
@tytheyoutubeguy8415 True!
his heart, it had a panic attack
@derekschmitt9994 His heart was going through a difficult situation! 😆
Never even had the makings of a varsity heart.
You gotta think who wasnt in the diner. Bikers. Plus the shooter ran out sayin "Were with the Vipers"
I wondered if Tony Died of a heart attack in bed at the end of The Blue Comet. The episode Made in America is Tony's last dream as he dies from the heart attack.
Sounds good to me!
Shoutout Clit Smasher, he was a stand up guy.
The Last Member takes his shot, misses the kill, but causes an anxiety attack which just goes into full blown cardiac arrest. Combo bank shot off the 2 and 6, corner pocket.
The last thing about David Chase deciding it was in bad taste sold me on it.
100% bro same here.
He went out as the strong silent type, like Gary Cooper
The Interior Decorator killed him...
But his house looked like shit! 😂
He decorated the interior of Holsten's with Tony's grey matter
We all know it was the guy in the members only jacket who shot him from 3 o'clock. Chase has spoken about casting an italian looking guy for that reason .
Naw we don't
That's y tha discussion 🤌
Personally, I think he took out AJ as well as Tony.
I can't have this conversation again.
In the diner, there is a song on the jukebox that is named “heart”
More likely to be the band Heart.
Considering what real mobsters look like, Tony S is a skinny twig.
"Onions! You know how I feel about what people eat"
Since James Gandolfini died of a heart attack after living a quite gluttonous lifestyle, and there are certain kinds of heart attacks that are quite sudden, this is certainly possible.
we are also ignoring uncle June's song "ungrateful heart"
It's them turkey sangwaches , it's like spacool on my bowls !
merry Christmas eve CineRanter thx for the video.
This guy’s more creative than Spielberg
You know CR, it wasn’t so long ago you used to wait in the car…
I attended hundreds of people who have had a heart attack. There are many presentations. Some people have chest pains for days even weeks some its sudden and some drop out of nowhere and are dead before they hit the floor there is no typical way so this theory is totally feasible.
I'm inclined to agree with you. I think this is exactly how he went out and it perfectly suites the anticlimactic nature of the shows other storylines that go the same way.
In my opinion adding to this, Tony would be the third person IIRC who was destined to be whacked but died from other means. Richie Aprile and Big Carmine being the other two. “These things come in threes.”
Gigi? He was only a jersey captain tho, not on their level so I can see why u don't count him
Fits in perfectly with my theory that the entire last season(s) are showing all the ways Tony's life could play out through himself and people around him.
I like that we finally have a solid alternative to the theory that he got clipped. Don't get me wrong, I think the mob hit theory also has a strong body of evidence, but it's *still* a theory and I'm tired of it being regarded as sacrosanct truth. Hoping the Onion Ring Theory will help maintain the ambiguity of the truth.
All I know is that to the victor, go the spoils.
With a stroke, it could be very sudden, no warning. I know, I had one.
0:26 I see what you did here
Always with the scenarios
He did eat beef and sausage by the car load.
The way you weave inside jokes from the Sopranos into your videos is hysterical 😂
The onion rings had a right to defend themselves. Tony came at them with a chainsaw.
I was wondering just this morning how many onion rings Edie Falco had to eat at Husten's before David Chase got the take he wanted.
If Stanley Kubrick had directed it, prolly a thousand.
Go watch the Quasimodo scene at the diner again. As far as I can tell, Bobby's eating an entire plate of nothing but onion rings.
I had the pleasure of meeting James in the very beginning of The Sopranos fever.
Super nice guy.
I think they left it open ended for the audience. You could imagine him being whacked, or having a heart attack, or just continuing on with his family. Ahh, who am I kidding. He was whacked.
I think reality was he definitely got whacked, however Chase predicted that people would refuse to accept it, they'd refuse because they came to cheer for or want Tony to win or survive, so the song Don't Stop Believing was put there to literally represent how people till this day desperately want to believe life just went on for Tony & family.
I don't know how anyone who actually watched the show could think he survived but of course they did
@ When the finale first aired, the vast majority of people were just confused…and a little angry that there wasn’t some kind of definitive conclusion. This was way before the series and ending were dissected and analyzed on UA-cam.
Yeah-his heart was attacked by a bullet!
The onion rings were my favorite characters on the show
Yeah, I wish they did more with the onion rings. That and the fried rice that got spilled all over Richie Aprile.
Maybe mustang sally threw him off the mezzanine at giants stadium…too many onions or some shit
A lot of things didn’t happen that seemed like they happened. The Vespas never made it into my hands.
An onion ring can’t inflict a sudden heart attack.
Guy literally said that in his video.
Everyone who has ever eaten there always orders them and swear that Holsten’s onion rings are “to die for.” So, it’s plausible I guess. I still like to think that Eugene reached out from beyond the grave and had Tony tapped twice in the back of the head by that guy in the Members Only jacket.
New cineranter on Christmas Eve, it’s gon be a good day
The guy that walks in in the jacket reminds me of Furio
Okay I’ll admit at first I thought this theory sounded stupid
But after watching this whole video, it really is amazing
Good video!
Dude same. I originally brushed it off but the way he tied everything together was so good
Who could deny facts from someone who's name is CLIT_SMASHER.69?
Boss says you're Santa
You're Santa.
Merry Christmas
0:24 Yeah, if all that happened it could have ruined the show.
He ordered the onion rings for the table - that’s the thing with wise guys - the hustle is always on.
Wow thats an amazing theory. The way you extrapolated it was great. I really like how you did it.
hey there man, I have an idea for a video, in season 5 of Breaking Bad, Lydia and Jesse find something beneath a barrel in her storage, Jesse goes to tell Mike and he believes she planted it, which leads her to danger. did she plant it?
Tofu would have made the doctor happy
My theory, is that Felix, from the pizza parlor, whacked Tony in the end. Becoming manayer gave him the confidence he needed to take over the rest of North Jersey
You're at the precipice of an enormous crossroad whatever happened there with the sacred and the propane!
There was nothing he could do. The onion ring was a made guy...
As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be an Onion Ring.
It was a varsity onion ring
In this house, CLIT_SMASHER_69 is a hero! End of story!
The onion rings were for the communion metaphor, nothing more I think
Babe- some Sopranos lore just dropped!
I think Tony was shot when it cut to black.
When it cuts to black, he is already dead so how can he be shot after 🙄
Remember what Bobby said I bet you don't even hear it.
Vinny used too many onions.....but Holsteins still made a great sauce
I BLAME THE PARENTS!
Crane pulled a Stephen King ! He wrote an exceptionally great series without a definitive end to the story !
"You're not gonna believe this. The onion ring killed sixteen Czechoslovakians. The thing was an interior decorator."
Chase called it the death scene. Imo the guy in the members only club shoots him straight out the bathroom. Then he was a member like the rest of his dead friends in his coma obviously n.y okay phils death then butchie took over leaving paulie and the rest to work with.
"Don't stop believin'
Hold on
Streetlights, people!"
I love this theory, this is my official head canon now.
It's Tony's turn on the driver seat and his heart gives out.
Another great video 💯
Do a video about the 7 souls song and intro. Makes me feel a lot of things and my head spins every single time I see it. I love it
Regarding the title, i won't tolerate those kind of remarks, they are disrespectful and hurtful and we won't have them. He had high blood pressure, okay?
Nah, the Vipers got him.
The two people sat withtony when the ending happens are the two people who say "Antony Soprano is not going to die" when tony is in a coma. I take that as foreshadowing.
The mere fact that this theory is just as plausible as any that involves someone murdering him , proves in my mind, how brilliant and timeless the fade to black ending is. It's all there, and yet...we'll never know. Great video and big shout out to cl*thrasher 😂
to be honest Sopranos is lowkey woke, from the heavy criticism of catholics and a lot of the main characters being traditionalists but completely hypocritical, analyzing racism, meadow and AJ being super liberal as a result of their parents being very conservative and so many other things, but nobody can attack the show for that because its so well written
That is not what the term woke means 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Mad Men showrunner Matthew Weiner was a producer on the sopranos. Mad Men, for all its good parts, is definitely a woke show, so his influence combined with David Chase outlook on Italian American culture is probably why Sopranos has some woke moments.
Chase just wanted to make a realistic world which included these issues, it's not Woke. The Anti-Woke crowd are every bit the simpletons that the original Woke crowd were. Mindless parrots that go off without reason.
What qualifies as woke today would have been far left nonsense to the average democrat when the show aired. The most liberal people in the show, Meadow and Janice are presented as extremely hypocritical. The show never made a point to rebuke racism. It was critical of all the races or persuasion it came into to contact with to more or less the same degree, it just happened to predominantly feature Italians. Being liberal as a teenager is extremely common, regardless of their parents affiliation and you were already seeing their transformation by the end of the show. AJ was really more of a Jr neocon than anything.
It really feels like you're trying to do the whole square peg, round hole thing by even asserting the Sopranos as political, let alone super partisan. Politics exist to the extent that they are inescapable in everyday life, but that's really it. They didn't even touch the major issues of the day, besides in passing.
@@PenskePC17 I agree with everything except on the fact that The Sopranos isn't political, sure it's not post-2016 weird smooth-brain version of political writing, but it sure was political on it own way. It was a show about the downfall of the Mafia, but of america as well, they addressed 9/11, the war on terror, environmentalism, Healthcare, race relations, union rights, religion, homosexuality, generational conflicts, mental health (obviously) but it was so subtle, and so well ingrained into the story that we don't pay much mind to these things.
If the show were written today, 75 per cent of the show would the therapy sessions and Melfi would wind up being the boss for some contrived reason.
He might have just thought it was another panic attack and ignored the signs...when it was actually a heart attack
It was the guy in the members only jacket who grabbed a hidden gun from the bathroom, godfather style.
Maybe Chase told Gandolfini that his character died of a heart attack when they finished filming. Then James died that way, it is known that insinuating events can cause them to happen.
Um one of the mobsters in the show WAS gay. Lol
I just noticed that the Yellow Nissan(AJ’s car) and the Grey Masseratti(Johnny Sack’s car) are both seen in The Wire(The Nissan is parked in the background during the start of season 3 during a shot of stringer bell being followed by jimmys kids outside of the market), The Sopranos and True Detective season one. The masseratti is seen parked a few doors down from Tommy Carcettis house in season 5.
In true detective you see the Nissan parked in the parking lot in the background in episode 4. The masseratti is shot up by Rust’s sniper friend after Rust and Marty blackmail Steve.
God damn I’m good.
Great job - you aren’t far off with this. Tony does die of a heart attack, but it happens while he is asleep in the safehouse. Made in America is a dream he has at that point. Symptoms such as chills, incontinence and a burning smell are alluded to throughout. I explain all of this in the Second Edition of my book. The finale has to be watched as if it is a film by the types of filmmakers that Chase is influenced by, such as Bunuel, Lynch and Kubrick.
Not merely the onion ring, but a combination of several health factors that culminated in the final stress to Tony's health overall. We know that his hardening arteries was a result of all that gabagool he ate, then when Junior shot him, Tony goes through all that physical stress. In one scene, he sits down to a pastry, a baily covered in onions. Tony notices it right away and rejects it. Fearing the onions will cause him health issues.
Tony drinks gallons of hard liquor, smokes cigars and indulges in espressos on a daily basis. Add to this his war with NY, and Tony's rapid weight gain, year to year, we can see that the writers stressed the ongoing health problems Tony had. At one scene in a hospital, tony goes to see a doctor about a mysterious rash. Undiagnosed, the doctor quips, "Well you could lose some weight. that would be a start."
The Standard American Diet, (SAD)...The cumulative impact of Tony's lifestyle choices-his diet, stress, substance use, and physical inactivity-takes a toll on his health over the course of the series. The writers of "The Sopranos" consistently highlight these factors, painting a picture of a man whose body is gradually breaking down under the weight of his lifestyle and choices.
Tony's love for rich, processed foods, the weekly orders of takeout, eating at Vesuvio's, room service, free meat deliveries from Satriale's, is the ongoing narrative of Tony's deteriorating health. These moments serve as subtle reminders of the risks he faces and foreshadow the potential consequences of his lifestyle.
It's not just a single event like the onion ring at Holsten's, but the culmination of years of poor health choices and intense stress that pose a constant threat to Tony. This holistic portrayal of his health adds depth to the character and raises the stakes of his journey.
Onion Ring Theory? I told you. It's a glorified hypothesis.
My thought is that when David Chase says that “all of the answers are there”, he means that you can find evidence for any number of ways for Tony to die or to stay alive through the finale. Part of the show is the ambiguity. A lot of things are intentionally never revealed- like what happened to the Russian. As you shown in your channel, you can find evidence for him: getting whacked (by a few different wise guys at least), going to prison, dying of a heart attack… in addition to this I think it’s possible he has a panic attack. He has stopped seeing melfi and the therapy helped with the panic attacks. Maybe he has one and it actually saves him, the lucky fuck