I have never liked the CF6 for the A330. Frist of all it has the least thrust for the a330 Second of all it consumes oil very quickly third of all it is the least efficient of the 3 engines for the a330 and lastly, it does not handle bird strikes and compressor stalls well at all. One compressor stall and boom its gonna need lots of repairs.@@ramyfares9099
If you don't board a plane, then you don't have to be concerned about an incident. Just saying. I stay off of them. Of course, I don't travel much. Be safe. Allen
No need for an apology. Safety came first. Calm and professional pilots, and their team were brilliant. No doubt that their calmness eased the anxious passengers of their stress. Super well done to all concerned.
I were taking care of this aircraft as an aircraft mechanic when it was stored at Ciudad Real airport during the Covid 19 pandemic. Very reliable aicraft and engines
Wow, what a catch! Would you be okay with me featuring this in a Weekly Dose of Aviation episode? Of course you will be credited in the video and in the description.
Reminiscent of the ThompsonFly 757 that took a bird strike to the starboard engine as it lifted off from Manchester in 2007. Pilots shut the engine down, declared mayday and did their checklists while ATC got them set up for a return landing. Very professional!
I just flew out of Dub and was shocked at how many birds I saw flying around the airfield...this doesn't surprise me at all. Was concerned at the time tbh.
Congrats on filming this and making it back to post. Well done. Glad everyone is safe and sound. What are the odds on getting a bird flock ingestion on camera? 👏👍
Feckin birds again, yeah still my favourite TV show after all these years, love it. Bless him. Father Jack would jump out with his parachute and with the drinks trolley
Normally airports have a huge amount of wildlife deterrent measures in place. Heathrow has a fleet of vehicles dedicated to this very purpose with sounders and alarms as well as firecrackers to disperse birds
Wow! Nice Video, thx for that😊 you can clearly hear how the engine's vibrating due the Birdstrike and mooving slightly to the right due to the powerloss. Nice handling be the crew👍
You were lucky, in 1980 this happened to a heavyweight Nimrod at Kinloss, Just on take off where it hit and ingested 70 odd Gulls and losing 3 of its engines, sadly the 2 pilots died but the rest escaped the wreckage.
@@DistractedTrader when the pres on the helicopter it’s called marine 1. When the pres is on an aircraft it’s called af1. Google is your friend. Look it up
This A330 is fitted with CF6 engines. They are known to "eat" oil, not handle compressor stalls, and not have the greatest outcome from birdstrikes well but can still contain debris.
That's right 👍🏻 It looked like that engine handled this bird strike very well though, didn't even hear a compressor stall. The A330ceo also has the RR Trent 700 which is the most common type of engine, and the P&W PW4000 too.
Happened to me back in the 90s out of Vancouver Canada, 737-300 and left engine sucked in bird and engine made popping sounds until the PF shut it down, we landed and after a few hours got a replacement plane July 1995
Looks like only the "debris" from the bird went in the engine, not completely destroying it but likely damaging a few compressor blades and causing an imbalance. Thats what it looked like anyway.
Great video! May I kindly request your permission to include this clip in my upcoming episode? Full credit will be given in both the video and the description. Thank you.
Fantastic capture! Would it be acceptable for me to use this video as part of my Weekly Dose of Aviation series? Naturally, you will receive credit as before for both the video and the description. Regards!
I flew on EI-EIK only a week before this and noticed a terrible high pitched sound coming from over the wing. I uploaded it to UA-cam and I still have no idea what it is. Did you hear it on this flight?
Yeah There is very little chance there was a quick fix. If the CF6 has a bird strike its definitely going to need lengthy repairs or just completely swapped out for a new one.
Excellent job by the crew! The smartass within me was thinking, "Sure we just had a massive bird strike that failed one engine. So, sure, let's go back to that same airport right away, with only one functional engine." Smart move, of course, but that approach would've made me think about birds a LOT. :)
I’m surprised they used thrust reversers with a damaged engine. Can anyone explain why? It was a dry runway as well so can’t imagine why they needed them.
Well let me think 🤔just taken off so full fuel tanks turned arround for emergency landing so i would guess fuel tanks still full which explains the OVERWEIGHT LANDING as is in the title of the video and the need for full brakeing AND REVERSE ENGINE THRUSTERS !!
Absolutely breathtaking capture! May I have your permission to feature this in my upcoming project? I'll be sure to credit your video with a link. Thank you!
I use my cell phone (in airplane mode). I once caught a narrow, circular ribbon of condensation while landing in ANC in early afternoon. It lasted about 5 seconds in 2 bursts, and dissipated before reverse thrust was applied. [I saw a flat one once during landing in HNL, but didn't have a recording device at the time.]
Poor birds, poor humans that will arrive late to the destination and for a bit of scare, poor plane for dealing with multiple hits and blood stains... :)
Fantastic video! Would it be okay for you if I feature this in a future UA-cam video of mine? I would of course credit you in the video and description. Thank you and have a great day!
@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD Thanks for the information. I thought all widebody jets had to have this feature. But I now found out that this option is optional on the A330 and not all airlines order it.
How can a plane land so quickly after take off with so much fuel on board? I thought they had to either a) dump fuel or b) keep circling until a certain amount of fuel is burned off. How can such a heavy plane land? Are certain runway lengths required and if this had been from a different airport it may not have been possible? Or is it always possible to land straight away in the event of an issue during takeoff? Thanks 😊
There is certain factors put into the landing, they will typically ask for the longest runway available, as they will need to land at a higher speed, as the heavier the plane, the higher the stall speed, so if you have an a330 with minimum weight, lets say stall speed will be 100 knots or so, with a heavy load, that may go up to 120 knots, or even 130 knots. Thats what flaps are for though, they provide more lift at lower speeds, allowing aircraft to fly slower.
The A330 does not have any capability to dump fuel. That leaves two options. Circle to burn fuel as you said, or do an overweight landing. Circling to burn fuel is not the greatest idea when you have an engine problem. So you have to quickly decide to perform an overweight landing, which will require most likely the full length of the runway.
Overweight landing is not a major issue on most aircraft. Just gotta make your performance calculations are right and make sure there is enough runway.
@@rkan2 what happens if they ran out of runway on this occasion and had to take off again whilst moving, would that have been possible with one engine not performing as it should?
@@JC_46 If the performance calculations were made correctly, they could operate normally like with normal landing weight with two engines sans the hot brakes.
So many birds out ahead. Perhaps the airport could do better with bird control? Great video! Great recovery by the pilots! Definitely good luck. Nice seeing the shamrock on the wingtip!
Get rid of all birds near airports...more will replace them. Birds can fly 😉 Birds btw...are everywhere...even 6-7Kms up. Get rid of all birds... that'll cause ecosystem collapse...and probably end life as we know it. For all our technology....we humans are not actually that clever 😂
@@PurpleDreki Deterrent methods increasing ineffective. Falconry, doesn't deter all the birds. They just move to a different area. If the falconer moves with the birds, the birds end up back In the same place. Not a cheap option either. Alarm call of birds by loud speaker eventually becomes ineffective because birds learn that there isn't really any threat about. I remember landing at Schiphol and was surprised by the Curlews and Lapwing on the grass next to the runway. Ironically... I'm a birdwatcher & was on a connecting flight to China for a birdwatching holiday 🥴
It’s not possible to prevent birds from entering the engine. You can’t put anything in front of the engine intake that would not disturb the airflow and/or possibly create safety concerns. Birds ingestions are rare, so it’s probably not worth it
It did. But there’s no hurry. The plane can fly with one engine only. As long as it’s not a fire, or anything immediately life threatening, you can take your time to sort the issue out and take a decision.
That pilot’s announcement was so calming. Truly professional
It’s pretty straightforward really.
That pilot was my god Father He handles it perfectly
Why are you so surprised?
Yeah, it’s never a good sign when your A330 stops sounding like an A330 and starts sounding like a B-17.
Indeed 😂😂😂
That’s why I don’t like GE CF6 powered A330s like this one, I prefer RR Trent 700 powered ones like Lufthansa, Swiss, SAS
I have never liked the CF6 for the A330.
Frist of all it has the least thrust for the a330
Second of all it consumes oil very quickly
third of all it is the least efficient of the 3 engines for the a330
and lastly, it does not handle bird strikes and compressor stalls well at all.
One compressor stall and boom its gonna need lots of repairs.@@ramyfares9099
Even worse when it stops sounding like a B-17 and starts sounding like a glider.
@@sebastiannielson1952 it is actually a CF6, PW4000 engines looks a bit bigger in fan size, besides Aer Lingus uses CF6 on their A330s
Always a relief when a plane lands safely after an incident.
If you don't board a plane, then you don't have to be concerned about an incident. Just saying. I stay off of them. Of course, I don't travel much. Be safe. Allen
@@fayeharris7391They’re extremely safe and the pilots are extremely well trained.
@fayeharris7391: Well, there's still a rare chance a plane incident may involve you when you're going about your life on the ground.
anyone else notice AF1 in the background conveniently timed at 7:47?
Good catch, I did not even pay attention to the timing 😅
Came to the comment section to see if anyone else caught it also!
I was about to make the same
Comment lol ❤️✈️
yes
FJB
These things happen fairly frequently. Well handled by the flight crew, no major dramas, good job capturing the event.
No need for an apology. Safety came first. Calm and professional pilots, and their team were brilliant. No doubt that their calmness eased the anxious passengers of their stress. Super well done to all concerned.
They apologise for the inconvenience to trivialise it and put your mind at ease.
I were taking care of this aircraft as an aircraft mechanic when it was stored at Ciudad Real airport during the Covid 19 pandemic. Very reliable aicraft and engines
@@billb7876 exact
@@billb7876 Those birds had more going on upstairs than you
@@incandescentwithrage even after the strike
@Not XiJing Ping Nooo!!! They were hit? Hope all the members of the band are ok...
@@Francisco_CS luckily they unscathed after they ran, they ran so far away from the runway
Wow, what a catch! Would you be okay with me featuring this in a Weekly Dose of Aviation episode? Of course you will be credited in the video and in the description.
Hi, thanks for asking! Sure, no problem 😉
Came here from your channel. I wanted to see the full video.
Luckly no one was injured
@@NosoyJoseph What about the poor lovely birds?
@@NosoyJoseph Epic, Lucaas! LOL
I was on this flight. Great job capturing it.
Thank you 😉
Reminiscent of the ThompsonFly 757 that took a bird strike to the starboard engine as it lifted off from Manchester in 2007. Pilots shut the engine down, declared mayday and did their checklists while ATC got them set up for a return landing. Very professional!
Pan pan?
I just flew out of Dub and was shocked at how many birds I saw flying around the airfield...this doesn't surprise me at all. Was concerned at the time tbh.
Need to rent a trained bird of prey, such as a hawk, to scare off the birds from the area.
Congrats on filming this and making it back to post. Well done. Glad everyone is safe and sound. What are the odds on getting a bird flock ingestion on camera? 👏👍
Awesome capture! May I feature this takeoff in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. Cheers!
Hey mate, love your work! Sure! Feel free to feature with credits 😉
If Father Jack was on that plane he would be saying “Feckin’ birds”
Then drink
BIRDS !!
FECK OFF !!
Feckin birds again, yeah still my favourite TV show after all these years, love it. Bless him. Father Jack would jump out with his parachute and with the drinks trolley
And drinking furniture polish after the safe landing. Was this when Father Ted tried to go to America?
@Martin Ross no . All the priests was on it coming back from convention or something
Was that Airforce One Over there after landing???
Really surprised that doesn’t happen more often
Normally airports have a huge amount of wildlife deterrent measures in place. Heathrow has a fleet of vehicles dedicated to this very purpose with sounders and alarms as well as firecrackers to disperse birds
Wow! Nice Video, thx for that😊 you can clearly hear how the engine's vibrating due the Birdstrike and mooving slightly to the right due to the powerloss. Nice handling be the crew👍
Exactly very well handled by the crew and ATC 👌🏽
Ouaw impressionnant. Sécurité avant tout c'est clair. Mais il était où l'effarroucheur à l'aéroport de Dublin ?
It’s the birds skeleton that smashes into the fan assembly etc that does the damage
7:41. Back ground... Air Force one /VC 25?
My condolences to the bird family🙏.
Also condole for the chicken i had
Aer Lingus did offer compensation to them!
@@DucktilityI bet it was tasty tho.
You were lucky, in 1980 this happened to a heavyweight Nimrod at Kinloss, Just on take off where it hit and ingested 70 odd Gulls and losing 3 of its engines, sadly the 2 pilots died but the rest escaped the wreckage.
That was airforce one on the ground! You seemed to have caught everything that day :P
It’s called AF1 only when the president is on board.
@@SeligTiles Naw thanks, havent heard that one before.
@@DistractedTrader when the pres on the helicopter it’s called marine 1. When the pres is on an aircraft it’s called af1. Google is your friend. Look it up
7:42 You could see Air Force One 😂
It's still thee at 747 too. How neat.
is that the air force one parked up at the landing?
Yes Joe Biden was visiting Ireland at that time. There are also three Boeing C-32
It’s only AF1 when the president is on board
Wow! very high quality video along with great footage! Am I allowed to use it in one of my videos (with credit/a link in the description)?
Hi mate! Yes, thanks for asking 😉
@@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD Great :) Thanks for the reply
I wish people would say no as its just compilations of compilations now.
This A330 is fitted with CF6 engines. They are known to "eat" oil, not handle compressor stalls, and not have the greatest outcome from birdstrikes well but can still contain debris.
Isso mesmo 😮
That’s why RR Trent 700 is better
That's right 👍🏻
It looked like that engine handled this bird strike very well though, didn't even hear a compressor stall.
The A330ceo also has the RR Trent 700 which is the most common type of engine, and the P&W PW4000 too.
I know PW has their special Kevlar around the fan case to contain debris.@@bikerguychris33
@@ramyfares9099 fuel usage WAY more than CF6
Happened to me back in the 90s out of Vancouver Canada, 737-300 and left engine sucked in bird and engine made popping sounds until the PF shut it down, we landed and after a few hours got a replacement plane July 1995
Was that AF1 parked up with a couple of other 757 US Gov stuff?
Yes at 7:47 😅
The 757 one is C32
Good job to the flight crew 👨✈️
Awesome capture! Would you be okay with me featuring this in my video? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description.
Is that Air Force One and Air Force Two in the background at 7:44?
Affirm
Camera man never dies.
Oh, wow, intense take-off 😳. Thank God, you are still dafe.
Isso Ainda não é Motivo Para um Acidente 😊😊
why wouldn't they be safe?
Wow wow well done to all crew
your description is wrong, an emergency IS NOT PAN PAN, but Mayday
Looks like only the "debris" from the bird went in the engine, not completely destroying it but likely damaging a few compressor blades and causing an imbalance. Thats what it looked like anyway.
due to the lower bypass of the cf6 it was more likely the bird bits would enter the core and cause havoc.
Great video! May I kindly request your permission to include this clip in my upcoming episode? Full credit will be given in both the video and the description. Thank you.
Hi, thanks a lot. Yes, no problem
@@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD Thank you very much.
Do people always cough so much and I never notice? Or were there some fumes seeping in?
Lol
Never on a flight ✈️ I have been on
It is just a virus that has been with us since 2020 😳
Fantastic capture! Would it be acceptable for me to use this video as part of my Weekly Dose of Aviation series? Naturally, you will receive credit as before for both the video and the description. Regards!
Half expected feathers coming out when reversers opened
I flew on EI-EIK only a week before this and noticed a terrible high pitched sound coming from over the wing. I uploaded it to UA-cam and I still have no idea what it is. Did you hear it on this flight?
I just saw your video. No I did not hear that sound. It’s the first time I ever hear it 🤔
@@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD well I'm glad you landed safely anyways
What happened afterwards? Was there much of a delay, a quick fix?
The airplane went to maintenance so it was replaced by another one (EI-EIM), and we took off after an 8-hour delay
Yeah There is very little chance there was a quick fix. If the CF6 has a bird strike its definitely going to need lengthy repairs or just completely swapped out for a new one.
Ouch, couldn't be any closer to V1.
I just realized that you caught the VC-25 (AF1) among other US aircraft in the background during landing at 7:41
Joe Biden was visiting Ireland yes
Did that flight of birds contacted ATC?
Yes, their call sign is KFC
Excellent job by the crew! The smartass within me was thinking, "Sure we just had a massive bird strike that failed one engine. So, sure, let's go back to that same airport right away, with only one functional engine." Smart move, of course, but that approach would've made me think about birds a LOT. :)
MErci pour ctte video de birdstrike !
Thing went from A330 to ATR real quick
Well, the ATR doesn't even have FADEC, so not quite 😂
@@rkan2 sure sounds like an ATR
I’m surprised they used thrust reversers with a damaged engine. Can anyone explain why? It was a dry runway as well so can’t imagine why they needed them.
Well let me think 🤔just taken off so full fuel tanks turned arround for emergency landing so i would guess fuel tanks still full which explains the OVERWEIGHT LANDING as is in the title of the video and the need for full brakeing AND REVERSE ENGINE THRUSTERS !!
Nice calm pilot.
Great capture! Can I use this clip in my upcoming video? Full credits to you in the video description of course 😊
Hi, thanks, yes no problem 😉
@@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD Amazing, thanks a lot 😀
5:07 "absolutly nothing to be concerned about" even the birds didnt complain...
😂😂😂😂
Absolutely breathtaking capture! May I have your permission to feature this in my upcoming project? I'll be sure to credit your video with a link.
Thank you!
Hi, yes no problem
@@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD Thanks
what are the chances that a bird strike getting filed by someone still using a camcorder? :) camcorders are are relatively rare these days. :)
I use my cell phone (in airplane mode). I once caught a narrow, circular ribbon of condensation while landing in ANC in early afternoon. It lasted about 5 seconds in 2 bursts, and dissipated before reverse thrust was applied. [I saw a flat one once during landing in HNL, but didn't have a recording device at the time.]
Did anyone catch Airforce One in the background while landing? It’s there plain as day.
Yes, visible at 7:42 in the middle of the landing roll.
Poor birds, poor humans that will arrive late to the destination and for a bit of scare, poor plane for dealing with multiple hits and blood stains... :)
did u get swapped onto a different aircraft or swapped onto a flight the next day?
We got an another A330 on the same day (EI-EIM) and departed with an 8-hour delay
I would like to wish the birds concerned one and all a speedy recovery .
lol
The birds last thought... OH S**T
Wao exactly moment of the bird strike. Excelent. Thank God come back the airport safety
Is the bird ok? 😮
Are the birds okay??????????
Fantastic video! Would it be okay for you if I feature this in a future UA-cam video of mine? I would of course credit you in the video and description. Thank you and have a great day!
I’m about to fly to Orlando on this aircraft!
Looking forward to
Maybe not this one 🕜
@ It was, same registration same plane
Why didn't you start the video with the building of the plane?
Love Aer Lingus!
Amazing catch.
That person coughing in the background sound sicker than the engine 😷
Hey great catch mate! Can i feature this in one of my upcoming episodes? Of Course you will get credit for it! Thanks
Hi, yes no problem
Such beautiful country. Looks like it was a nice day to fly , I guess birds decided tsame.
No fuel dump before emergency landing?
The A330 can’t dump fuel. If it can’t wait you have to perform an overweight landing
@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD Thanks for the information. I thought all widebody jets had to have this feature. But I now found out that this option is optional on the A330 and not all airlines order it.
I was at the airport last week and never seen so many birds around the place.
Were the birds ok?
What airport?
The birds wanted to go on a butter machine
How can a plane land so quickly after take off with so much fuel on board? I thought they had to either a) dump fuel or b) keep circling until a certain amount of fuel is burned off.
How can such a heavy plane land? Are certain runway lengths required and if this had been from a different airport it may not have been possible? Or is it always possible to land straight away in the event of an issue during takeoff? Thanks 😊
There is certain factors put into the landing, they will typically ask for the longest runway available, as they will need to land at a higher speed, as the heavier the plane, the higher the stall speed, so if you have an a330 with minimum weight, lets say stall speed will be 100 knots or so, with a heavy load, that may go up to 120 knots, or even 130 knots. Thats what flaps are for though, they provide more lift at lower speeds, allowing aircraft to fly slower.
The A330 does not have any capability to dump fuel. That leaves two options. Circle to burn fuel as you said, or do an overweight landing. Circling to burn fuel is not the greatest idea when you have an engine problem. So you have to quickly decide to perform an overweight landing, which will require most likely the full length of the runway.
Overweight landing is not a major issue on most aircraft. Just gotta make your performance calculations are right and make sure there is enough runway.
@@rkan2 what happens if they ran out of runway on this occasion and had to take off again whilst moving, would that have been possible with one engine not performing as it should?
@@JC_46 If the performance calculations were made correctly, they could operate normally like with normal landing weight with two engines sans the hot brakes.
So many birds out ahead. Perhaps the airport could do better with bird control? Great video! Great recovery by the pilots! Definitely good luck. Nice seeing the shamrock on the wingtip!
Get rid of all birds near airports...more will replace them. Birds can fly 😉
Birds btw...are everywhere...even 6-7Kms up.
Get rid of all birds... that'll cause ecosystem collapse...and probably end life as we know it.
For all our technology....we humans are not actually that clever 😂
@@davidhilton8680 Birds are the dragon's piercing armor. They thin out higher up. The flocks can be deterred on the ground. Especially on the runway.
@@PurpleDreki
Deterrent methods increasing ineffective.
Falconry, doesn't deter all the birds. They just move to a different area. If the falconer moves with the birds, the birds end up back In the same place. Not a cheap option either.
Alarm call of birds by loud speaker eventually becomes ineffective because birds learn that there isn't really any threat about.
I remember landing at Schiphol and was surprised by the Curlews and Lapwing on the grass next to the runway. Ironically... I'm a birdwatcher & was on a connecting flight to China for a birdwatching holiday 🥴
Probably blocked by the Greenies.
What happened after? Did you all had to changed to another plane?
Yep airplane swap and we took off a few hours late
You’d think there would be a resolution to this problem by now. 🙄
Glad it was a safe landing , but poor birdies, sad mess :(
I know it's an obvious point but why can't they put a mesh grill over the engine
A mesh would disrupt the smooth airflow into the engine and cause a compressor stall.
Reduce thrust probably. it would look stupid too
Where are the ground staff to keep an eye on birds
Bird threat mitigation is not 100%, and runway surroundings are not inspected before every single take off.
@@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD
Seems like a risky way to run an airport and fly planes!
0:49 You can see the flock of birds getting into this engine in this clip
Air force one there?
Can I ask a naive but fairly obvious question? Why don't aircraft engines have some kind of design to prevent birds from being able to enter them?
It’s not possible to prevent birds from entering the engine. You can’t put anything in front of the engine intake that would not disturb the airflow and/or possibly create safety concerns. Birds ingestions are rare, so it’s probably not worth it
@@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD Thanks for the reply!
no ones speaking about the air force one and the other planes beside it
Why did the plain didn't land quickly? dumping the fuel? makes no sense for me......
It did. But there’s no hurry. The plane can fly with one engine only. As long as it’s not a fire, or anything immediately life threatening, you can take your time to sort the issue out and take a decision.
Plane*
and I bet they had people complaining about returning to the airport. What, do you wanna risk flying with one less engine?
Was that Air Force 1 at 7:47 ?
Yes and the timing is completely unintentional 😆
@@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD glad you landed safe and glad you got it all on video. Just realized 747😂
How much did you pay to fly Air Lingus to Chicago?
Roughly 500€ seats included
I see, thanks.
Birds that choose to fly over runways are the equivalent of humans who walk baby carriages in the street instead of the sidewalk
Right, they have the whole world to fly in and choose a fucking runway. I'm so tired of these drones
Nice video 👍🏻 thanks
That's why I always fly first class. I least I can get one drink in should we have to return.
Amazing Pilots
That's what there trained to do
7:41 no way af1 was there
How much does maintenance cost for this incident and can you trust it after this incident without inspection?
It was birds, nothing got to do with maintenance 🤦
Hi there, amazing clip! May I feature this in one of my videos, of course you will be credited in the video and description.
Hi there, thank you! Yes, thanks for asking 😉
Where was this? I see multiple USAF 757s and AF1 on landing
VC-25 + C32 while landing broo