Haha. I love that a chemistry channel learned something about chemistry on a general fact channel. Goes to show that there's always something to learn.
I actually think Simon Whistler here is wrong. I think Arsenic is the toxic catalyst used to make PETE. In any case, you get more Antimony from Solder.
Spent years in the plastic bottle industry and plastics that are blow molded such as bottles are not as recyclable as you may think as when you blow mold them you stretch the molecular structure and there is no way to unstretch it , so you cant just grind it up melt it down and blow another bottle with it and PET plastics are worse than others like HDPE that you milk bottles are made out of and the presenter is correct that the colors used make it worse . At best in blow molding the recycled plastic known as regrind can be used as a filler and mixed with virgin plastic you can use about 25 percent with HDPE but only about 10 percent with PET, higher percentages make the scrap rate go up . Aluminum and glass don't have this problem and can be simply melted down and be made into new containers . This applies to all plastic bottles not just beer bottles . So why make them at all? Cost as plastics are derived from oil and natural gas when prices are low plastic is cheap and it costs more to try to recycle that to just use virgin material.
+proofbox -- I've spent years asking every Chemical Engineer I can find about plastics recycling. I'm sure you know some of this, like: The PET bottles get recycled into carpet material, HDPE gets some re-use as park benches or Plastic recycle bins, after which I think they become trash. For PET bottles, after the recycling process, material flaws make the recycled PET untrustworthy to brands that need to reliably contain carbonated liquids under pressure for up to a year of shelf-life. Bonus fact: The four (4) atoms of Oxygen within the PET molecule makes the PET polymer resistant to gas diffusion compared with other plastics polymers like Polystyrene or Polypropylene.
Well naturally plastic isn't metal, you can't just smelt and reforge it lol. Plastic can undergo chemical recycling - aka depolymerization - and be used to make new food grade PET, but it's not really a viable technology for the recycling industry at this stage.
@@KucheKlizma--Yet that doesn't stop company's going around trying to sell it to city managers. Last night I threw a plastic milk jug into the trash to save the earth from the energy costs my city would place upon it by temporarily recycling some of the carbon-chains in that plastic milk jug. In San Fransisco, there are full time city enforcement officers to rummage through people's trash who would gladly arrest & charge me for my thoughtful action. [literally _charge_ me in two senses of the word, only figuratively _arrest]_
+czdaniel1 - Yeah the whole thing seems like a sunk cost fallacy. Even recycling glass bottles is quite inefficient. Ever wonder why we don't just refill most glass or plastic bottles- Intellectual Property. The beer industry has somewhat standardized glass bottles though, so a lot actually do simply get a wash and a refill.
@@KucheKlizma -- I believe a public policy professor [whose PhD field was Economics] told me that recycling glass is dependent on local demand for either clear glass or color glass. The example for not being useful, i think was England's import of Portugues wine in clear or green glass, paired with English beer bottlers glass demand which was only for brown glass. And the clear and green class can't be efficiently made into brown glass.
It's less common, but you can absolutely buy beer in plastic anywhere, mostly just cheep beers in 1-2 liter bottles. It's typically one of the best deals money-wise, if not in taste. *_Definitely_* not in taste.
Well, I can't speak for everywhere, of course, but in most larger alcohol sections of stores or liquor stores in the US, and even in several European countries I've been to, this has been the case. Plastic normal-size bottles of beer are rare, but these larger ones are easier to find in most places.
It impacts the taste but the extent of that depends on how long it was stored in the plastic. Using HFCS instead of sugar impacts the taste significantly more. Blame our government forcing high tariffs on importing sugar and subsidizing farms to make corn for HFCS.
@@Cheesymomo High tarrifs? Fuck off with your bs anti-giv propaganda. Companies VOLUNTARILY switched to HFCS to save a few cents and line their pockets.
@@norbertfleck812 You can add to that Ukraine and Russia where the majority of local beer is sold in plastic bottles. The only glass bottles you find on the shelves are generally imported beers and some of the local brands in smaller bottles less than a litre.
Even in Germany, we have beer in plastic bottles and beverage cans. It is not the best quality beer we have of course (there's plenty of bottled beer available), but it is sold here.
beer is never SOLD in plastic bottles, they keep trying, but nobody ever buys that shit, even those parasites who are unemployed by choise have too much dignity to buy adelskronen, they'll go for oettinger or sternburg instead. beer should never be in a plastic container. beer is to be served in a glass or in a stone jug, if neither is available, the glass bottle or can it comes in will do.
@@GerryBolger German lagers are really nice but I prefer Belgian and English beer more in general. I like a fruity ales more than a clean lager. But a nice banana flavored Hefeweizen is amongst my favourite beer styles ever.
I think we should go back to using glass in all retail beverage containers for environmental reasons! It doesn't float on water (look up ocean garbage patches), it's inert, it slowly turns back into sand as it weathers and it's highly recyclable!
Companies like Coke try to put the responsibility on us. They say we only buy drinks in plastic bottles so that's what they use. They say it isn't cost effective to use glass but would be if we (consumers) bought sinks in glass. Of course if plastic is the only packaging they offer that's what we have to buy.
@@fuckinantipope5511 Yup Denmark as well, and even if some one dosent want to bottle, a homeless or otherwise less fortunate will take it (We should also use more metal or paper instead of plastic)
That's what we strive for, perhaps the best example being our video on the original of cardboard boxes. Can't get much more boring sounding than that, but it was actually pretty interesting. ;-) -Daven
" if Simon ever quits, you're all screwed" Simon's obviously awesome and for various reasons I can confidently say he's not going anywhere, but I think you're massively underestimating that you actually enjoy the content itself, not just the presenter. ;-) -Daven
2L or 68 oz fortified "beer" of 7+% ABV. Aptly named "Turbo Diesel" its a really horrific concoction in the early 2000s. Sold for the 2021 equivalent of 2€ (adjusted for inflation) a bottle, its was mostly bought by village drunkards to be drank in front of the local shop. As for its taste, a strong artificial malt flavor coupled with overwhelming bitterness and, of course, cheap grain spirit. A flavor profile only chain smoking alcoholic could bare. Naturally, being a highly carbonated and fortified, it succeeded in the task of getting one drunk very efficiently. Almost as it was a kindred spirit of a 2L turbo charged diesel combustion engine... only difference being where the combustion engine housed the effect in a cast iron construction...the beverage variant had a plastic shell.
I worked for a major ice tea company ( Arizona )they switched from glass to plastic and we lost 70,000 cases. High end customers prefer it at the other end of the spectrum migrant workers prefer glass as well. The expiration date on water is because the plastic bottles break down so glass has many advantages .
I don't buy anything from Arizona any more because they've watered everything down. There's not one drink I've had in the last two years, from them, that was any good. Their quality no longer exists. Sucks when a company goes cheap.
@@alaric_ Its not just plastic, yknow the stuff that makes your bottle soft? yeah that shit is responsible for fetuses not developing genitals correctly! Its not "plastic" as such that is the cause but rather the chemicals added to the plastic afterwards, that get loose and kinda mix with the liquid. Thats why you should also NEVER EVER NEVER recycle one time use bottles because that flushing WILL give you a hormone cocktail, I mean as a guy its great because its just another thing to make you sterile but for women its a bit of an issue! And they tend towards those stupid plastic bottles...with water....and a 970% markup in price...
we store our water in full sunshine in lakes and it tastes better than bottled water, cant beleive that in New Zealand people buy bottled water, when we bottle water straight out of the tap and sell it for 100 times the price, and the public are aware of it
Plastic is easily recycable "when we bother to do so" AND when it is convenient for the authorities who collect it to do so rather than ship it overseas to become landfill.
Unfortunately PET (soda bottle plastic) are in recycleble back into bottles unlike your juice can that is made from HDPE PET nowdays mosly gets crushed and shredded and gets mixed with asphalt in roadways.
The oceans are so big, they make great trash cans. Unfortunately no plastic ever ends up in our oceans... I mean I _never_ see or hear any news about plastic in the oceans... (I'm being sarcastic and not flaming N P).
What on earth? Plastic is horrible to recycle. There are too many different types. Metals yes. Glass and paper sure but not plastic. Plastic is however incredibly cheap to make, easy to shape into what you want and lasts forever. You are best off incinerating it.
@@johnendersby1619 Paper often just isn't worth it to recycle, the impact of transporting and sorting it all is huge and it still needs to be bleached and pulped again to make it viable, we just need to source new paper in more sustainable ways- old paper could be composted if you can do it at home, otherwise, it will degrade anyway. Plastic is a horrible material for general use, it should only be used where the object in question is designed to be used longterm- there are other options for storing liquids like tetrapaks and aluminium cans/bottles that are far better than PET (I hesitate to suggest glass because of the number of times I have punctured a bike tyre or seen an animal or child injure themselves on the shards left by inconsiderate drunks or teenagers, maybe if we introduce mandatory deposit, return and reuse schemes where the return is high enough that almost nobody would smash it, but broken glass is a nuisance and the most likely source of glass lying uncleaned up on our streets and roads is empty drink containers smashed by drunk people!)
My dad actually worked on the plastic beer bottle for Budweiser as a plastics engineer. He said the most dificult part was finding a way to mold the plastic with a material that didn't allow air through because it would foul the beer quicker. The issue is that that material doesn't bond with the PET plastic that standard bottles are made from. They eventually got it to mold right when they sandwhiched the oxygen proof material between two layers of PET.
The wife and I lived in Romania for two and a half years, ten years ago. If you were having a party or picnic you bought beer in 2.5 liter plastic bottles. This a seriously large bottle. But no worries, the beer didn’t stay in the plastic bottle long. Romanian beer is wonderful, a German influence with Romanian twists. I recommend, Silva Bruna, Ciucaş, Timișoreana, and many more. Romanians are kind hearted, family oriented folks.
I don't now about everywhere but where I live(Ontario Canada) we pay a deposit on beer bottles and cans(10 cents for a bottle and 5 cents for a can) we get that back when we bring them back to The Beer Store(that's what it's called). They send them back to the breweries where they have the labels removed then get sterilized and reused(not the cans they just get shredded and made into other aluminum stuff). They claim that they can be reused up to 16 times. It's made possible because the major brewers agreed to sell the majority of their beers in standard 341mL(12 imp fl oz 11.5 U.S. fl oz) brown glass bottles. So any bottle can go back to any brewery and they just keep reusing them. It's a pretty good system for encouraging recycling and they've been doing it for far longer than other "green" programs.
America use to hve the "Returnable" bottles, but about 14 years ago they were discontinued in favor of the more common NR bottles. (Non-Returnable) I worked at a beer distributor for 5 years, and the only places that really used returnable bottles was VFW's and American Legions. I think the returnable bottles are more associated with an older generation, and as they started to drop off the returnable bottles disappeared too. It's the same with beer products like Genese, Straub, Pabst, etc. Those used to be the most popular brands of beer, (Especially here in Central PA) but those beers are more associated with an older fan base. In fact the most sold of the returnable bottles was Genese and Genese Light. My older family members mostly all drank "Genny" products, couldn't stand that skunk piss.
We've got the same system down here in Uruguay. At first, it reminded me of filling up my little red wagon with deposit bottles and weeling them down to the stores when I was a kid on Long Island.
Belgium, same, also in Netherlands and Germany, although Germany uses different standard sizes (had problem returning a german bottle), and actually a lot of the big brands do have a different form. The bottles go to sorting places to resend them to the rights brands. Belguim re-use info claims a bottle can be re-used up to 50 times, I did read multiple times that recycling happens more effecient in belgium then a lot of other countries.. I just found a full circle analysis, calling some disadvantages , mainly heavyer weight, and the high melting temperature to reuse the glass onces it became to damaged.. and the analyses is, 1) can has a slight ecologic advantage over glas, if well collected for recycling. 2) If the plastic is 100% pet and well-collected and recycled, it's even more ecological... with even in that article the remark that PET ain't good for beer due to oxigen exposure :D , Belgium is a proud beer country he ;-).
The best we have in Arizona are growler refills at some gas stations and grocery stores. Other states like California have the recycling refund programs.
@ben nichols This was a question that a view asked. I assume they haven't seen beer in plastic bottles because of how uncommon it is in the USA. I have seen it before, but it didn't last long. My favorite bottle is the the style that Grolsch uses that has the resealable cap. If only more breweries used that style of bottle.
They should really sell all alcohol in plastic! I grew up in Alabama and when I was 17 years old my uncle broke a 1 liter bottle of aristocrat vodka over my head! I've still got a huge scar above my left eye to this day!
@@phoenixfritzinger9185 Then in the Phillippines, they _are_ Philistines because beer should ideally be in glass bottles. Cans are the only acceptable concession.
I listened to a science podcast a few days ago and a scientist called it "Parkingson's" like 40 times. If you are a neurologist you should know the proper name of it. Was pissing me off.
@What The F Blog - My heart goes out to you about your grandfather. I'm the one that has it in my family and I can tell you the same thing I tell them. Worrying about it does more harm than any type of good for you or those around you. While not genetic, I can't imagine stress about it does anything helpful. Just a little advice, live your life like nothing will happen, enjoy yourself and those around you. Things worth worrying about will happen whether you're ready for them or not, so why waste the energy?
jaspr1999, I totally understand you point about worrying. I have 2 disabled special needs children and quickly learned not to worry about certain things because there was nothing I could do to change much of anything. In fact I have to tell people to not freak out and don’t worry if they fall. That they will let you know if they are hurt from a fall. Because otherwise they will watch your reaction after a fall and then they’ll decide how hurt or not they are. I know I might seem mean by telling people not to worry if they should fall, but I also don’t want people hovering over them like they’ll break. And @WhatTheFBlog, jaspr1999 gave some really good advice. You worried that you would get it but now you know the doctors have told you it’s not genetic and is it that you still fear getting it or is fear of PD itself? What might help you to get over your fear of getting it is to do a little family tree DX hunting. Look back in your tree and see how many people have been DX with PD. Once you know maybe then you won’t worry as much and start living for the now😊 (((Hugs))) to you both
@@Henchman1977 Yes. Which one of you is the evil one from a parallel reality? If Star Trek and Knight Rider taught me anything, the evil one from another dimension always has a goatee. And my Ian is clean shaven...
In NZ we had bottles called flagons, they were 1/2 an imperial gallon and were clear glass. After metrication they were 2.25 litres. These were filled at the wholesale shop or public bar from a tap. When you had finished it, it was taken back for a refill. Sometime later there were bottles called "Pubpets" these were brown plastic, the size I cannot recall. These may have also been supplied by one of the two major brewery chains. Heineken is far more pleasant out of a green bottle with a red star than out of an aluminium can. Anthony
Corona is also great for getting floors clean, I learned this from my wife work worked at a Sav-On and had to mop up broken bottles that fell inside of the reach-in cooler and I learned it too when I worked at a Terrible Herbst.
I live in the southeast region of the USA (NOT by birth. I'm from 35 miles north of Boston. Lol.) and I've noticed for the last maybe 7 or 8 years that certain domestic beers like Icehouse, Cobra and Olde English DO indeed come in "shatter proof" plastic bottle variants, but ONLY for 40 oz. bottles. They do normally sell their glass-cased counterparts as well, but they may be on a separate shelf.
I remember back in the late 80s, maybe early 90s, they used to sell some beers and coolers in plastic bottles shaped like wide mouthed beer bottles. They didn't go over well.
Lol this man has never passed out in a ally at 2 pm due to drinking a plastic 40oz steel reserve and it shows😂😂😂,they sell beer in plastic bottles not that hard to find Simon.
When I was stationed in England (1986-89) there was brand of lager (named Hansa, IIRC) which was sold in the common 4-pack of tins and also in 2-liter bottles. The bottles were made of the same material as the 2-liter bottles in which soda is sold.
They do sometimes for festivals where they dont want glass or cans around. We did have at least one beer (Carlton Cold)in plastic on the shelf for a few years, it tasted pretty bad, not that it was good out of glass just less shit!
I use plastic as well as glass bottles for my homebrew. The main advantage to plastic is that if you have a bottle bomb go off, you won't be picking shards of glass out of the drywall. It's also cheaper, so it's a good choice if I'm giving beer away (which I do quite often). Also, you don't need a capper, and you can reuse the caps. I keep my bottles climate controlled and out of the light; I have never noticed any off flavors in my plastic bottles compared to my glass bottles.
What you lose out on with plastic bottles is that if it goes off in your hand, and it goes inside your hand.. you're pretty much screwed when it comes to infection, as it's incredibly difficult to find the pieces. If I recall correctly, glass is fairly easy to see inside the body. This is why plastic landmines are illegal to use in war. I'm not sure how much pressure is in a bottle of fermenting beer though, I'm kinda leaning to plastic being better since I dont think the pressures are too high, and plastic is less sharp in shrapnel form than glass. Just incase though
I am super old. I remember in the 1960s in NYC you could get draught beer "to go" in paper cartons. Obviously meant to be downed with hours, if not minutes. I can't remember if they were treated with wax like old milk cartons but surely they were treated with something to prevent a soggy mess. it was kind of a "grey market" thing, being slightly illegal or at least hush hush. It obviously helped if you knew the bartender or were a regular at the bar.
I immediately thought of the giant ++40oz of Baltika, a malty, flavorful tribute to alcoholism found in "Old World" liquor stores. edit: it's Baltika #9, pretty sure
Well, you can open a beer can and let all the bubbles escape, then you will have a flat beer. But I don't think there are any flat beers on the market. Maybe check Total Wine and More?
Also, would the alcohol even further leech chemicals from plastic? As someone who had occasionally sneaked hard liquor masquerading in a soft drink bottle into concerts, I can definitely attest that that liquor becomes practically undrinkably foul-tasting by the end of the gig and forever afterwards, even after being refrigerated again (so, it has nothing to do with the temperature).
That's the difference between rowdy drunk American sports fans and rowdy drunk British sports fans: the former are chuckers while the latter are stabbers. (However, Philly fan and Raiderfan are notable exceptions.)
I'm from Alabama and my uncle broke a glass, 1 liter bottle of vodka over my head when I was 17. I've still got a huge scar from it. All alcohol really should be sold in plastic!
I’ve had beer from plastic bottles many times. In parks like Disney world and festivals and sporting events. Since all aluminum cans are lined with plastic it’s the same thing.
Plastic beer bottles are not uncommon at all in the U.S. in fact, nearly all sports stadiums, other concert arenas and amusement parks typically sell non-tap beer ONLY in plastic bottles although in some venues sometimes cans as well. However, plastic only is far more common these days. It isn't really all that uncommon to find at least some individually packaged, 4packs and sometimes 6packs of bottles of the major brands here (budweiser, bud light, miller low-life, miller lite, et.al.) in plastic bottles and occasionally in aluminum "bottles" too. Another interesting packaging option is steel cans (when canned at all anyway,) mostly found in beers from various countries around Europe and especially Belgium in particular. One more thing... While brown bottles protect the beer from getting "light-struck" (the term for beer that has been exposed to beer) and thusly "skunked," green bottles DO NOT protect against UV light, or I should say the little protection that they provide is not even remotely close to being sufficient to prevent the beer inside from getting "skunked" due to hop compounds contained in the beer being isomerized into nasty sulfur compounds due to having been exposed to UV light and obviously, clear bottles have absolutely no protection at all.
When I go to concerts or club shows, they would never serve beer in a bottle, only cans and plastic cups, they told me its for safety reasons, they dont want drunk people throwing bottles, starting fights with broken bottles, or someone slipping and falling on a broken bottle, cutting an artery.
Belgian beer giant Jupiler sold their beer in plastic bottles for a while. The taste was clearly not the same as from a glass bottle, but 15 year old me loved it, as it was really easy to sneak beer into the movie theater or on school trips.
Regarding the thing about aluminum being harmful. There's no conclusive evidence yet. There's been some study that shows correlation(not causation btw) while others do not. Should you be wary? I guess since it MIGHT be true but you don't need to worry too much since it's not confirmed and the trace amount you get is very minimal unless you eat and drink out of them every meal of your life. Same goes for plastics. There have been evidence certain chemicals leak in to the liquid but its harmful effects are unknown if there even any. Another factor to note is that plastics comes in a variety of type. Some maybe harmful while others are not. Also as mentioned in the video, temperature and time do affect the safety of said plastic. Both form of containers also have coating to limit any potential hazards. And as always avoid suspiciously cheap and badly made products. Also finally, we need to know what is the extent of the harm even if there is. All of which is unclear.
Agree! Aluminum is the 3rd most abundant element in the earths crust... its all around us. Its absurd to think you can limit your exposure by refraining from things that contain it!
There are studies saying it is harmful, but it's the dose that makes the poison and you need a lot of it (like continuous daily exposure). I'm sure it's far more then you would ever have to worry about
@@TheBarser it absolutely does not. Coke from glass bottles is better than cans because they make it a bit differently. Also because you drink it straight from the bottle or can. Craft beer is different. You are going to pour it into a glass most of the time. Cans preserve the beer much better. A canned beer poured into a glass will be better than a bottled beer poured into the same glass for the same beer. Real beer doesn't taste good from bottles. Have you been drinking proper American craft beer or just swill. Glass bottles have a smaller opening and don't let you smell the beer as well as a can. Glass bottles stay cold longer, making the beer too cold if you aren't drinking it in a hot place. The fridge is too cold for most craft beers. I want most beers to be at least 45F, some are best way warmer, like even 60F. One of the best beers in the entire world, Heady Topper, is deseigned to be drunk straight from the can. Yes, it's better from the can then most glasses. When you drink shitty beer like Budweiser, it tastes better from the bottle and extra cold, because that hides some of the horrible flavor from you. When you drink real beer, you want all the flavor and aroma you can get. Please go to your local brewery and start actually learning about beer. You won't regret it.
@@cbernier3 I dont drink american beers. I live in Denmark. I mostly buy carlsberg/tuborg in cans for convenience, but they taste better if you drink it from glass. If you pour it from a can or a bottle into a glass they probably taste the same though. If you buy "real" beer, like Belgian beer, you always get them in glass bottles.
I worked for a brewery briefly as a young man. We topped our beer off with an inert gas (Nitrogen) to force the air out of the bottler just before capping it. My boss explained that the oxygen in the air would cause problems with the beer, though I don't recall exactly what chemical/biological reactions it prevented. If plastic is permeable to air, as you say, then I imagine that the same problem would occur with beer bottled in plastic.
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I have a beer making kit that comes with quart size plastic bottles for carbonation and storage purposes. They do stress to keep them in a cool place. It's always been fine.
Fun fact: In the US, we pronounce (and spell) aluminium (which is correct) as "Aluminum." Why? Because the first US aluminium company misspelled it on all their promo/startup stuff and didn't want to spend the money to fix it.
@@starandfox601 Broken bottles can be recycled, but it's not as easy as simply cleaning an unbroken bottle and refilling it as Merlin suggested. You have to melt the glass down and make a new bottle.
thank god someone who isnt a chemical-phobe and actually knows what they are talking about! plastics overall are some of the safest substances ever created (with some exceptions)
not to mention that he only covered one type of plastic when there are a wide variety with many differing characteristics. saying there is one type of plastic is like saying there is one type of animal or plant!
Plastic kegs are becoming a thing now; one example is Pub Keg. The beer goes into a plastic 'bottle' the shape of a large lightbulb, which goes into a blue keg shell. The bottle part is recyclable but not reusable but the shell is reused. I've also seen 1/2 bbl kegs that are essentially a recyclable, non-reusable large plastic bag (I've seen it used one time and don't know much more about them).
@@xxXthekevXxx I never understood why people call all soda "coke". I kind of get pop. It sounds wierd to me, but at the end of the day.. it makes sense. As for coke, in my opinion its the same thing as calling all cars a "ford"
@@Bobdixon_Moonvarga_Dancer_III I don't even know m8 I think I said oom, you said uh then I said what and you replied pardon, leaving me to say, "oom"-p-"uh" l-"oom"-p-"uh"
As other people have said, 40’s are plastic, and over here in Australia Carlton Cold was sold in plastic bottles for a short period! And homebrew is brewed in plastic tubs!
In Japan, hot beverages in PET bottles from vending machines (black and green tea, milk tea, lemon tea, etc) are pretty common during the cold months. I guess there's a type of PET bottles that can safely used for hot drinks.
I've seen beer sold in plastic bottles before, typically at sports stadiums (like the stuff sold at the 2012 Olympics) where they don't want potentially rowdy people to have tons of glass in hand, and also where they expect to turn over their stock very quickly.
Here is the States, 95% of the plastic bottles are bought up by sports teams and concert venues. That remaining 5% is available for the consumer to purchase, but most of the time you would have to special order them.
My favorite local craft witbier comes in both aluminum cans and brown glass bottles. I taste no difference and in fact the cans are just superior. They really did improve the can linings to not leach out flavors into your beer. I now only prefer glass when I'm drinking directly from the container but that's mostly because it stays colder longer in glass.
Fun experiment, purchase a six pack of your favorite non alcoholic fizzy beverage in plastic, glass and aluminum containers. Wait buy TWO six packs. Park one of each in the back of your fridge, and put the other three in a cool dry place (basement is ideal) for for the next six months do a blind taste test and record your notes comparing the taste with a freshly purchased sample
In Australia - specifically for safety reasons - serving alcohol in glass is very often prohibited at large (or even small) events. However, I only ever remember seeing it in plastic cups, never a bottle :/
In the states there are a couple of beer companies that sell their beer in plastic bottles unfortunately it seems to be brands that rank pretty low in taste and price.
Most beer here in the Czech republic is in glass bottles or aluminium (sorry if I said it wrong) cans, but you can also find beer in plastic bottles, these are normally 1,5 - 2 Litres and are litle bit cheaper.
Cans have made a big comeback at least in craft beer, it was in bottles for a long time mostly because of snobbery of the earlier customers. just about every microbrewery I frequent prefers to do canning now as the machines are cheaper enough to buy or hire a mobile canning truck, the beer lasts longer in cans, and being lighter and less fragile makes it easier to ship to stores. Also unlike plastic the can doesn't affect the flavor. Also another problem with plastic that cans and glass bottles don't have is that the carbonation can leak out much faster as the plastic is actually semi-permeable, which is why 2-Liter soda bottles go flat over time while soda in cans still has carbonation over a year later.
Simon Whistler: Aluminium in food has been liniked to alzheimer's and parkinson's, doesn't cite study = 12 000 likes on video. Me a year earlier: Aluminium in food has been liniked to alzheimer's and parkinson's, cites multiple studies in a comment section = THAT'SNOTWHATTHOSESTUDIESMEAN TINFOIL TINFOIL Life's hard.
Oh thats why I got all those emails asking if I can extract antimony from plastic.
Haha. I love that a chemistry channel learned something about chemistry on a general fact channel.
Goes to show that there's always something to learn.
The question is: CAN YOU?
Now you got to try it cody
I actually think Simon Whistler here is wrong. I think Arsenic is the toxic catalyst used to make PETE. In any case, you get more Antimony from Solder.
Is it possible too Cody?
Spent years in the plastic bottle industry and plastics that are blow molded such as bottles are not as recyclable as you may think as when you blow mold them you stretch the molecular structure and there is no way to unstretch it , so you cant just grind it up melt it down and blow another bottle with it and PET plastics are worse than others like HDPE that you milk bottles are made out of and the presenter is correct that the colors used make it worse . At best in blow molding the recycled plastic known as regrind can be used as a filler and mixed with virgin plastic you can use about 25 percent with HDPE but only about 10 percent with PET, higher percentages make the scrap rate go up . Aluminum and glass don't have this problem and can be simply melted down and be made into new containers . This applies to all plastic bottles not just beer bottles . So why make them at all? Cost as plastics are derived from oil and natural gas when prices are low plastic is cheap and it costs more to try to recycle that to just use virgin material.
+proofbox -- I've spent years asking every Chemical Engineer I can find about plastics recycling. I'm sure you know some of this, like: The PET bottles get recycled into carpet material, HDPE gets some re-use as park benches or Plastic recycle bins, after which I think they become trash. For PET bottles, after the recycling process, material flaws make the recycled PET untrustworthy to brands that need to reliably contain carbonated liquids under pressure for up to a year of shelf-life. Bonus fact: The four (4) atoms of Oxygen within the PET molecule makes the PET polymer resistant to gas diffusion compared with other plastics polymers like Polystyrene or Polypropylene.
Well naturally plastic isn't metal, you can't just smelt and reforge it lol.
Plastic can undergo chemical recycling - aka depolymerization - and be used to make new food grade PET, but it's not really a viable technology for the recycling industry at this stage.
@@KucheKlizma--Yet that doesn't stop company's going around trying to sell it to city managers. Last night I threw a plastic milk jug into the trash to save the earth from the energy costs my city would place upon it by temporarily recycling some of the carbon-chains in that plastic milk jug. In San Fransisco, there are full time city enforcement officers to rummage through people's trash who would gladly arrest & charge me for my thoughtful action. [literally _charge_ me in two senses of the word, only figuratively _arrest]_
+czdaniel1 - Yeah the whole thing seems like a sunk cost fallacy. Even recycling glass bottles is quite inefficient. Ever wonder why we don't just refill most glass or plastic bottles- Intellectual Property. The beer industry has somewhat standardized glass bottles though, so a lot actually do simply get a wash and a refill.
@@KucheKlizma -- I believe a public policy professor [whose PhD field was Economics] told me that recycling glass is dependent on local demand for either clear glass or color glass. The example for not being useful, i think was England's import of Portugues wine in clear or green glass, paired with English beer bottlers glass demand which was only for brown glass. And the clear and green class can't be efficiently made into brown glass.
It's less common, but you can absolutely buy beer in plastic anywhere, mostly just cheep beers in 1-2 liter bottles.
It's typically one of the best deals money-wise, if not in taste.
*_Definitely_* not in taste.
Micah Philson plastic isn’t a option in my area at all. Only glass and aluminum. The only exception is special events sometimes sell it in plastic.
Well, I can't speak for everywhere, of course, but in most larger alcohol sections of stores or liquor stores in the US, and even in several European countries I've been to, this has been the case.
Plastic normal-size bottles of beer are rare, but these larger ones are easier to find in most places.
Never seen beer in a plastic bottle in Finland
I have had the displeasure of trying a few malt liquors in plastic bottles. I have seen plastic bottles of steel reserve, old English, and high life.
If it tastes awful, it's not a good deal.
I remember when you could buy Pepsi in a glass bottle. And still to this day, I think glass bottled Pepsi tastes better than plastic bottled Pepsi.
it is better because they use real sugar
Here in California you can get coke and pepsi manufactured and bottled in Mexico, made with real sugar (no high fructose).
It impacts the taste but the extent of that depends on how long it was stored in the plastic. Using HFCS instead of sugar impacts the taste significantly more. Blame our government forcing high tariffs on importing sugar and subsidizing farms to make corn for HFCS.
@@Cheesymomo High tarrifs? Fuck off with your bs anti-giv propaganda.
Companies VOLUNTARILY switched to HFCS to save a few cents and line their pockets.
I'm the exact same way! The glass bottle luxury is just better
Tons of beer sold in plastic in Serbia and the rest of the Balkans.
Also in Germany and other EU countries.
@@norbertfleck812 You can add to that Ukraine and Russia where the majority of local beer is sold in plastic bottles. The only glass bottles you find on the shelves are generally imported beers and some of the local brands in smaller bottles less than a litre.
Fosters used to sell beer in PET bottles here in India. But they have stopped it nowadays!
@@norbertfleck812 In germany Beer is never sold in plastic
@@giulio7918 That's wrong. ALDI and some more discount markets sell beer in PET bottles.
As I am living in Germany, I should know that
Even in Germany, we have beer in plastic bottles and beverage cans. It is not the best quality beer we have of course (there's plenty of bottled beer available), but it is sold here.
German beer is the nicest on earth..
@@samarnadra That's true. On the other hand, I wonder why you can't find wine in cans?
beer is never SOLD in plastic bottles, they keep trying, but nobody ever buys that shit, even those parasites who are unemployed by choise have too much dignity to buy adelskronen, they'll go for oettinger or sternburg instead.
beer should never be in a plastic container.
beer is to be served in a glass or in a stone jug, if neither is available, the glass bottle or can it comes in will do.
@@GerryBolger nope... ^^
@@GerryBolger German lagers are really nice but I prefer Belgian and English beer more in general. I like a fruity ales more than a clean lager. But a nice banana flavored Hefeweizen is amongst my favourite beer styles ever.
I think we should go back to using glass in all retail beverage containers for environmental reasons! It doesn't float on water (look up ocean garbage patches), it's inert, it slowly turns back into sand as it weathers and it's highly recyclable!
100% this^
Companies like Coke try to put the responsibility on us. They say we only buy drinks in plastic bottles so that's what they use. They say it isn't cost effective to use glass but would be if we (consumers) bought sinks in glass. Of course if plastic is the only packaging they offer that's what we have to buy.
@@charlesball9522 people also need to be motivated to bring the bottles back. That's why the german Pfand system is genius
@@fuckinantipope5511 Yup Denmark as well, and even if some one dosent want to bottle, a homeless or otherwise less fortunate will take it (We should also use more metal or paper instead of plastic)
Glass bottles can be safely re-used, it use to be standard practice.
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@@TodayIFoundOut if Simon ever quits, you're all screwed. He's the only major reason everybody watches these videos.
Check out Carl on factfiend. He writes some of the articles featured on today I found out, and is entertaining as hell.
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Some beers are sold in plastic bottles in Eastern Europe.
Same in Germany. It is the cheapest kind, sold in discounters, but still it is sold.
And it used to be sold in plastic bottles here in Finland.
"Beer"
2L or 68 oz fortified "beer" of 7+% ABV. Aptly named "Turbo Diesel" its a really horrific concoction in the early 2000s. Sold for the 2021 equivalent of 2€ (adjusted for inflation) a bottle, its was mostly bought by village drunkards to be drank in front of the local shop. As for its taste, a strong artificial malt flavor coupled with overwhelming bitterness and, of course, cheap grain spirit. A flavor profile only chain smoking alcoholic could bare. Naturally, being a highly carbonated and fortified, it succeeded in the task of getting one drunk very efficiently. Almost as it was a kindred spirit of a 2L turbo charged diesel combustion engine... only difference being where the combustion engine housed the effect in a cast iron construction...the beverage variant had a plastic shell.
My favorite beer without a doubt is always the one I’m drinking.
Best beers:
1. Free
2. Cold
3. Present
I worked for a major ice tea company ( Arizona )they switched from glass to plastic and we lost 70,000 cases. High end customers prefer it at the other end of the spectrum migrant workers prefer glass as well. The expiration date on water is because the plastic bottles break down so glass has many advantages .
Yo you'd have to be an idiot to drink water from a god damn plastic bottle!
Still plastic is broken down really, really slowly, so slowly that it in garbage form is affecting the whole earth including the sea.
I don't buy anything from Arizona any more because they've watered everything down. There's not one drink I've had in the last two years, from them, that was any good. Their quality no longer exists. Sucks when a company goes cheap.
@@alaric_ Its not just plastic, yknow the stuff that makes your bottle soft? yeah that shit is responsible for fetuses not developing genitals correctly!
Its not "plastic" as such that is the cause but rather the chemicals added to the plastic afterwards, that get loose and kinda mix with the liquid. Thats why you should also NEVER EVER NEVER recycle one time use bottles because that flushing WILL give you a hormone cocktail, I mean as a guy its great because its just another thing to make you sterile but for women its a bit of an issue! And they tend towards those stupid plastic bottles...with water....and a 970% markup in price...
Yes he didnt really mention the marketing angle which is the most important reason. Same reason wine is in bottles.
explains why water in plastic bottles tastes funny when my company stores it in the open on pallets all summer.
The heat is though. Just store them inside.
we store our water in full sunshine in lakes and it tastes better than bottled water, cant beleive that in New Zealand people buy bottled water, when we bottle water straight out of the tap and sell it for 100 times the price, and the public are aware of it
Plastic is easily recycable "when we bother to do so" AND when it is convenient for the authorities who collect it to do so rather than ship it overseas to become landfill.
Unfortunately PET (soda bottle plastic) are in recycleble back into bottles unlike your juice can that is made from HDPE PET nowdays mosly gets crushed and shredded and gets mixed with asphalt in roadways.
The oceans are so big, they make great trash cans. Unfortunately no plastic ever ends up in our oceans... I mean I _never_ see or hear any news about plastic in the oceans... (I'm being sarcastic and not flaming N P).
What on earth? Plastic is horrible to recycle. There are too many different types. Metals yes. Glass and paper sure but not plastic. Plastic is however incredibly cheap to make, easy to shape into what you want and lasts forever. You are best off incinerating it.
@@johnendersby1619 Paper often just isn't worth it to recycle, the impact of transporting and sorting it all is huge and it still needs to be bleached and pulped again to make it viable, we just need to source new paper in more sustainable ways- old paper could be composted if you can do it at home, otherwise, it will degrade anyway. Plastic is a horrible material for general use, it should only be used where the object in question is designed to be used longterm- there are other options for storing liquids like tetrapaks and aluminium cans/bottles that are far better than PET (I hesitate to suggest glass because of the number of times I have punctured a bike tyre or seen an animal or child injure themselves on the shards left by inconsiderate drunks or teenagers, maybe if we introduce mandatory deposit, return and reuse schemes where the return is high enough that almost nobody would smash it, but broken glass is a nuisance and the most likely source of glass lying uncleaned up on our streets and roads is empty drink containers smashed by drunk people!)
My dad actually worked on the plastic beer bottle for Budweiser as a plastics engineer. He said the most dificult part was finding a way to mold the plastic with a material that didn't allow air through because it would foul the beer quicker. The issue is that that material doesn't bond with the PET plastic that standard bottles are made from. They eventually got it to mold right when they sandwhiched the oxygen proof material between two layers of PET.
The wife and I lived in Romania for two and a half years, ten
years ago. If you were having a party or picnic you bought beer in 2.5 liter plastic
bottles. This a seriously large bottle. But no worries, the beer didn’t stay in
the plastic bottle long. Romanian beer is wonderful, a German influence with
Romanian twists. I recommend, Silva Bruna, Ciucaş, Timișoreana,
and many more.
Romanians are kind hearted, family oriented folks.
We all know you can’t beat a coke in a glass bottle
So true.
Yes I can. Pour it over ice in a glass, add Vodka / JD / Rum / Brandy / whatever your poison is and drink it. That easily beats Coke in a bottle. 😀
Gavin Johnson not really what we are talking about here is it 😂
I prefer fountain Coke.
Yes so true
I don't now about everywhere but where I live(Ontario Canada) we pay a deposit on beer bottles and cans(10 cents for a bottle and 5 cents for a can) we get that back when we bring them back to The Beer Store(that's what it's called). They send them back to the breweries where they have the labels removed then get sterilized and reused(not the cans they just get shredded and made into other aluminum stuff). They claim that they can be reused up to 16 times. It's made possible because the major brewers agreed to sell the majority of their beers in standard 341mL(12 imp fl oz 11.5 U.S. fl oz) brown glass bottles. So any bottle can go back to any brewery and they just keep reusing them. It's a pretty good system for encouraging recycling and they've been doing it for far longer than other "green" programs.
It's the same in other countries.
America use to hve the "Returnable" bottles, but about 14 years ago they were discontinued in favor of the more common NR bottles. (Non-Returnable)
I worked at a beer distributor for 5 years, and the only places that really used returnable bottles was VFW's and American Legions.
I think the returnable bottles are more associated with an older generation, and as they started to drop off the returnable bottles disappeared too.
It's the same with beer products like Genese, Straub, Pabst, etc. Those used to be the most popular brands of beer, (Especially here in Central PA) but those beers are more associated with an older fan base.
In fact the most sold of the returnable bottles was Genese and Genese Light.
My older family members mostly all drank "Genny" products, couldn't stand that skunk piss.
We've got the same system down here in Uruguay. At first, it reminded me of filling up my little red wagon with deposit bottles and weeling them down to the stores when I was a kid on Long Island.
Belgium, same, also in Netherlands and Germany, although Germany uses different standard sizes (had problem returning a german bottle), and actually a lot of the big brands do have a different form.
The bottles go to sorting places to resend them to the rights brands.
Belguim re-use info claims a bottle can be re-used up to 50 times, I did read multiple times that recycling happens more effecient in belgium then a lot of other countries..
I just found a full circle analysis, calling some disadvantages , mainly heavyer weight, and the high melting temperature to reuse the glass onces it became to damaged.. and the analyses is, 1) can has a slight ecologic advantage over glas, if well collected for recycling. 2) If the plastic is 100% pet and well-collected and recycled, it's even more ecological... with even in that article the remark that PET ain't good for beer due to oxigen exposure :D , Belgium is a proud beer country he ;-).
The best we have in Arizona are growler refills at some gas stations and grocery stores. Other states like California have the recycling refund programs.
"but there is beer sold in plastic" says the comments. Yes, he mentions this early in the video.
Look at the title, dude 🍄
@@schregen "I didn't watch the video but let me tell you what I think about the title"
This video was apparently really hard to comprehend for some. Must have been all those words.
Thank you i just said that thier is in u.s we have some 40s in plastic bottles this video retarted but smart
@ben nichols This was a question that a view asked. I assume they haven't seen beer in plastic bottles because of how uncommon it is in the USA. I have seen it before, but it didn't last long. My favorite bottle is the the style that Grolsch uses that has the resealable cap. If only more breweries used that style of bottle.
The broken bottle used in a fight was called a Hillbilly Boxing Glove when I was growing up in Detroit, the Motor City.
Lol I thought that was a Canadian thing
They should really sell all alcohol in plastic! I grew up in Alabama and when I was 17 years old my uncle broke a 1 liter bottle of aristocrat vodka over my head! I've still got a huge scar above my left eye to this day!
@@willworkswood3215 wtf is wrong with him?
@@SoulTouchMusic93 He was drunk
@@willworkswood3215 tell me you kicked that fucker in the nads.😡😡😡😡
*"Why Isn't Beer Sold in Plastic Bottles?"* _Because we are not Philistines!_
Only heathens drink beer from plastic bottles!
Well bear is sold in plastic in America look up old English or Milwaukee’s best
That’s a thing in the Philippines?
@@phoenixfritzinger9185 Then in the Phillippines, they _are_ Philistines because beer should ideally be in glass bottles. Cans are the only acceptable concession.
@@NoWay1969 No cans are Not acceptable.
I would be very interested in a video all about Parkinson's Disease. I know the medical and personal side of it, but not the history of it.
My has it it would be cool to know more about it
That would be very interesting
I listened to a science podcast a few days ago and a scientist called it "Parkingson's" like 40 times. If you are a neurologist you should know the proper name of it. Was pissing me off.
@What The F Blog - My heart goes out to you about your grandfather. I'm the one that has it in my family and I can tell you the same thing I tell them. Worrying about it does more harm than any type of good for you or those around you. While not genetic, I can't imagine stress about it does anything helpful. Just a little advice, live your life like nothing will happen, enjoy yourself and those around you. Things worth worrying about will happen whether you're ready for them or not, so why waste the energy?
jaspr1999, I totally understand you point about worrying. I have 2 disabled special needs children and quickly learned not to worry about certain things because there was nothing I could do to change much of anything. In fact I have to tell people to not freak out and don’t worry if they fall. That they will let you know if they are hurt from a fall. Because otherwise they will watch your reaction after a fall and then they’ll decide how hurt or not they are. I know I might seem mean by telling people not to worry if they should fall, but I also don’t want people hovering over them like they’ll break.
And @WhatTheFBlog, jaspr1999 gave some really good advice. You worried that you would get it but now you know the doctors have told you it’s not genetic and is it that you still fear getting it or is fear of PD itself? What might help you to get over your fear of getting it is to do a little family tree DX hunting. Look back in your tree and see how many people have been DX with PD. Once you know maybe then you won’t worry as much and start living for the now😊
(((Hugs))) to you both
In Ontario Canada, beer that sells in brown bottles are reused.
Beer isn't reused.
You have the same name as my boss. We are in Ottawa.
Wood 'n' Stuff w/ Steve French I’m pretty sure he was alluding to the brown bottles and not the...you know what? Never mind.
@@ironmikes.bramptonsgreates6042 is he the Handi House one?
@@Henchman1977 Yes. Which one of you is the evil one from a parallel reality? If Star Trek and Knight Rider taught me anything, the evil one from another dimension always has a goatee. And my Ian is clean shaven...
Miller genuine draft came in 16oz plastic twist cap bottles in the early 2000's
And it did not taste good!!!
@@johnragland8968 it did what had to do
It wasn't the plastic that made it taste shite though.
But this video is about beer.
@@johnragland8968 He already said it was MGD
Beer sold in cans, when you’re drinking out of a can you’re actually drinking out of a plastic bag
Kind of. They're coated with a thin epoxy layer to prevent the aluminum from oxidizing and leeching into your drink.
Cans are the Devil;)
Valtteri Asikainen dont try and over complicate it, it’s a plastic
@@lslice5283 well, yes. But I also gave the reason they do it. And it's really thin btw, only 1-10 µm.
In NZ we had bottles called flagons, they were 1/2 an imperial gallon and were clear glass. After metrication they were 2.25 litres. These were filled at the wholesale shop or public bar from a tap. When you had finished it, it was taken back for a refill.
Sometime later there were bottles called "Pubpets" these were brown plastic, the size I cannot recall. These may have also been supplied by one of the two major brewery chains.
Heineken is far more pleasant out of a green bottle with a red star than out of an aluminium can.
Anthony
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@@TodayIFoundOut You the man Daven!!
Why Isn't Beer Sold in Plastic Bottles?
Germany: "Hold my beer!"
Yes, we have cheap beer in plastic bottles over here in Germany.
Yes, but surely intended (as in the WC video example) just for immediate sale, not for prolonged storage in big warehouses before selling.
Karlskrone Perlenbacher Turmbräu and other great breweries 🤩🤩🤩🤩
@@AriMalatesta The "best before" date on the Plastic bottled beer is the same as on glass bottled beer (6 months after production)
Try mountain crest beer. it’s from Alberta Canada. I’m not an expert on beer, but I think it tastes like horrible shit.
@@plumbum605 ah yes, the finest brews on the market
Well, that begs the question: How safe from chemicals are plastic bottles for sodas?
Soda is poison. The plastic should be the least of your concerns.
Sodas do not contain alcohol, a powerful solvent. It is a difference maker.
@@eggsngritstn sodas contain mostly water i.e. "the universal solvent".
@@gregoryheim9781 Either you are trolling me or you lack knowledge in how organic chemistry works. Either way I'm out.
"Coloured glass protects beer"
Me: Corona is in transparent bottles. I KNEW IT WAS PISS (allegedly)
what does the virus have to do with beer
?
@@thesage1096 you so sage, go to a supermarket's liquor section and you'll figure it out
Corona is also great for getting floors clean, I learned this from my wife work worked at a Sav-On and had to mop up broken bottles that fell inside of the reach-in cooler and I learned it too when I worked at a Terrible Herbst.
Blasphemy lol
The only time Beer needs protecting is when it sits on the shelf for months before it gets sold.
How long does your beer sit in the store?
In Australia after 10 PM they switch out the glasses for plastic in many pubs. Some pubs don’t ever serve glass
*Watches video*
*Never drinks beverage from plastic bottles anymore*
Scott T. asked this question... sounds like SCOTT T DOESN'T KNOW SCOTT T DOESN'T KNOW 🎵
Most 40 oz beers in America are sold in plastic bottles now
I live in the southeast region of the USA (NOT by birth. I'm from 35 miles north of Boston. Lol.) and I've noticed for the last maybe 7 or 8 years that certain domestic beers like Icehouse, Cobra and Olde English DO indeed come in "shatter proof" plastic bottle variants, but ONLY for 40 oz. bottles. They do normally sell their glass-cased counterparts as well, but they may be on a separate shelf.
I remember back in the late 80s, maybe early 90s, they used to sell some beers and coolers in plastic bottles shaped like wide mouthed beer bottles. They didn't go over well.
Bethany Hanna - they tried it again around 2010 I think also. Give or take a year or two. It didn’t go over.
Unless you count
OLDE ENGLISH 800
WHICH IS A MALT LIQUEUR IS IN A PLASTIC BOTTLE IN 32oz and 40oz
New Steelys too
Lots of cheap 40oz come in plastic bottles.
What is the difference between a nicely dressed man on a tricycle and a poorly dressed man on a bicycle?
A tire.
I wanna beat the devil outta you.
In a good way because you’re a happy accident 😊
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Boom boom.
After reading that I'm tired too.
And about 30/40 dollars worth of clothing
Lol this man has never passed out in a ally at 2 pm due to drinking a plastic 40oz steel reserve and it shows😂😂😂,they sell beer in plastic bottles not that hard to find Simon.
I've never seen beer in plastic EVER. (Canada)
When I was stationed in England (1986-89) there was brand of lager (named Hansa, IIRC) which was sold in the common 4-pack of tins and also in 2-liter bottles. The bottles were made of the same material as the 2-liter bottles in which soda is sold.
They do sometimes for festivals where they dont want glass or cans around. We did have at least one beer (Carlton Cold)in plastic on the shelf for a few years, it tasted pretty bad, not that it was good out of glass just less shit!
I use plastic as well as glass bottles for my homebrew. The main advantage to plastic is that if you have a bottle bomb go off, you won't be picking shards of glass out of the drywall. It's also cheaper, so it's a good choice if I'm giving beer away (which I do quite often). Also, you don't need a capper, and you can reuse the caps. I keep my bottles climate controlled and out of the light; I have never noticed any off flavors in my plastic bottles compared to my glass bottles.
What you lose out on with plastic bottles is that if it goes off in your hand, and it goes inside your hand.. you're pretty much screwed when it comes to infection, as it's incredibly difficult to find the pieces. If I recall correctly, glass is fairly easy to see inside the body. This is why plastic landmines are illegal to use in war. I'm not sure how much pressure is in a bottle of fermenting beer though, I'm kinda leaning to plastic being better since I dont think the pressures are too high, and plastic is less sharp in shrapnel form than glass. Just incase though
@@wheelslifts851 Plastic doesn't make shards; It tends to crack at the bottom and then the beer shoots out. That's my experience anyway.
They sell “Steel Reserve” in plastic bottles, where I live
Dont forget Icehouse
Yes same here.
That’s because no one drinks steel reserve for its taste. They drink it to get drunk.
In parts of India, you can get liquor in plastic bags in the same way we and Canada pachage milk.
varun009 in Australia you can get wine in a foil bag idk if it’s available around the world not
I love this channel because it answers questions I have never even thought about.
I am super old. I remember in the 1960s in NYC you could get draught beer "to go" in paper cartons. Obviously meant to be downed with hours, if not minutes. I can't remember if they were treated with wax like old milk cartons but surely they were treated with something to prevent a soggy mess. it was kind of a "grey market" thing, being slightly illegal or at least hush hush. It obviously helped if you knew the bartender or were a regular at the bar.
I immediately thought of the giant ++40oz of Baltika, a malty, flavorful tribute to alcoholism found in "Old World" liquor stores.
edit: it's Baltika #9, pretty sure
what aboug box wines? are there box beers?
Cardboard is not strong enough to hold carbonated drinks.
the plastic bags in the boxes would explode from the pressure build up from the carbonation.
Brad are there any beers that arent carbonated? interesting.
Brad yes makes sense
Well, you can open a beer can and let all the bubbles escape, then you will have a flat beer. But I don't think there are any flat beers on the market. Maybe check Total Wine and More?
in Denmark they tried.. some tasted of plastic.. not all but some..
Plastic Carlsberg just didn't taste right at all.
Og ingen klinke klanke
British people cannot be held as an example as far as beer drinking goes. Brits drink warm beer.
Also, would the alcohol even further leech chemicals from plastic? As someone who had occasionally sneaked hard liquor masquerading in a soft drink bottle into concerts, I can definitely attest that that liquor becomes practically undrinkably foul-tasting by the end of the gig and forever afterwards, even after being refrigerated again (so, it has nothing to do with the temperature).
Dude you are so hilarious! Drunken, rival, fans ‘with tiny sharp clubs, so they can stab each other!’ ✨👍🏾😂😃🤣
Not to mention that as a projectile, an empty plastic beer bottle causes a lot less damage to a person's head than an empty glass beer bottle.
That's not funny. British soccer matches have turned into blood baths that Rambo would shy away from.
That's the difference between rowdy drunk American sports fans and rowdy drunk British sports fans: the former are chuckers while the latter are stabbers. (However, Philly fan and Raiderfan are notable exceptions.)
@@lawman592 Raider fans and Philly fans sometimes just so happen to become shooters. It's messed up.
I'm from Alabama and my uncle broke a glass, 1 liter bottle of vodka over my head when I was 17. I've still got a huge scar from it.
All alcohol really should be sold in plastic!
Um....
Beer is sold in plastic, aluminum, and glass in the US..
Same in Europe.
I’ve had beer from plastic bottles many times. In parks like Disney world and festivals and sporting events. Since all aluminum cans are lined with plastic it’s the same thing.
Plastic beer bottles are not uncommon at all in the U.S. in fact, nearly all sports stadiums, other concert arenas and amusement parks typically sell non-tap beer ONLY in plastic bottles although in some venues sometimes cans as well. However, plastic only is far more common these days. It isn't really all that uncommon to find at least some individually packaged, 4packs and sometimes 6packs of bottles of the major brands here (budweiser, bud light, miller low-life, miller lite, et.al.) in plastic bottles and occasionally in aluminum "bottles" too.
Another interesting packaging option is steel cans (when canned at all anyway,) mostly found in beers from various countries around Europe and especially Belgium in particular.
One more thing... While brown bottles protect the beer from getting "light-struck" (the term for beer that has been exposed to beer) and thusly "skunked," green bottles DO NOT protect against UV light, or I should say the little protection that they provide is not even remotely close to being sufficient to prevent the beer inside from getting "skunked" due to hop compounds contained in the beer being isomerized into nasty sulfur compounds due to having been exposed to UV light and obviously, clear bottles have absolutely no protection at all.
Joe White Why does “not uncommon” sound so much more pretentious than “common”?
Alledgely,beer in an aluminum can is a cardinal sin.
Beer is sold in plastic bottles in Ely
, Minnesota for use in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area
it has been at many concerts I've been to.
No shit. He says so right in the video you obviously didn't watch.
Wood 'n' be a douchebag, I guess that's "stuff". Great way of attracting viewers. Do you meaninglessly bash people on your channel too?
When I go to concerts or club shows, they would never serve beer in a bottle, only cans and plastic cups, they told me its for safety reasons, they dont want drunk people throwing bottles, starting fights with broken bottles, or someone slipping and falling on a broken bottle, cutting an artery.
Best segway! I already brew my own beer and everyone should!
I also thought the ad read was surprisingly relevant.
Drinking a 40 a OE in 2019 like fuuuu
LMAO same I was just gonna say they sell oe in plastic bottles in upstate Ny
In Korea, you can get 1.6L bottles of beer in plastic. Romania also has larger beer formats in plastic bottles.
Belgian beer giant Jupiler sold their beer in plastic bottles for a while. The taste was clearly not the same as from a glass bottle, but 15 year old me loved it, as it was really easy to sneak beer into the movie theater or on school trips.
Regarding the thing about aluminum being harmful. There's no conclusive evidence yet. There's been some study that shows correlation(not causation btw) while others do not. Should you be wary? I guess since it MIGHT be true but you don't need to worry too much since it's not confirmed and the trace amount you get is very minimal unless you eat and drink out of them every meal of your life.
Same goes for plastics. There have been evidence certain chemicals leak in to the liquid but its harmful effects are unknown if there even any. Another factor to note is that plastics comes in a variety of type. Some maybe harmful while others are not. Also as mentioned in the video, temperature and time do affect the safety of said plastic.
Both form of containers also have coating to limit any potential hazards. And as always avoid suspiciously cheap and badly made products.
Also finally, we need to know what is the extent of the harm even if there is. All of which is unclear.
Agree! Aluminum is the 3rd most abundant element in the earths crust... its all around us. Its absurd to think you can limit your exposure by refraining from things that contain it!
what if your a machinist and work with milling aluminum all day long
"but if I dont understand what something is then that means its bad!!!!" - average dumbass person
There are studies saying it is harmful, but it's the dose that makes the poison and you need a lot of it (like continuous daily exposure). I'm sure it's far more then you would ever have to worry about
@Truth Hurts no.... They wouldn't put it in if it harmed us...
Beer is better in glass
Damn near every food and beverage product is better from a glass container.
What are you in 2006? Most good beer is sold in cans now. You pour it into a glass when you are ready to drink it. It's way better than glass bottles.
@@cbernier3 Taste best from Glass bottles though. Cans is okay.
@@TheBarser it absolutely does not. Coke from glass bottles is better than cans because they make it a bit differently. Also because you drink it straight from the bottle or can. Craft beer is different. You are going to pour it into a glass most of the time. Cans preserve the beer much better. A canned beer poured into a glass will be better than a bottled beer poured into the same glass for the same beer. Real beer doesn't taste good from bottles. Have you been drinking proper American craft beer or just swill. Glass bottles have a smaller opening and don't let you smell the beer as well as a can. Glass bottles stay cold longer, making the beer too cold if you aren't drinking it in a hot place. The fridge is too cold for most craft beers. I want most beers to be at least 45F, some are best way warmer, like even 60F. One of the best beers in the entire world, Heady Topper, is deseigned to be drunk straight from the can. Yes, it's better from the can then most glasses. When you drink shitty beer like Budweiser, it tastes better from the bottle and extra cold, because that hides some of the horrible flavor from you. When you drink real beer, you want all the flavor and aroma you can get. Please go to your local brewery and start actually learning about beer. You won't regret it.
@@cbernier3 I dont drink american beers. I live in Denmark. I mostly buy carlsberg/tuborg in cans for convenience, but they taste better if you drink it from glass. If you pour it from a can or a bottle into a glass they probably taste the same though. If you buy "real" beer, like Belgian beer, you always get them in glass bottles.
Ahahahaha EASTERN EUROPE my friend!!! You can buy 3 litres bottle of beer for $1.
Probably follows a loose definition of what a beer is. That beer has to basically be fermented lawn clippings if it's that damm cheap.
@@dylanmccallister1888 water. Sugar. Yeast. All three of those are dirt cheap, US beer companies just jack up the price because they can
@@austinflint8671 beer is not made out of sugar it is made from grains and grains cost money to grow. You need land, workers, fertilizer and time.
@@austinflint8671 what you described is a sugar mash for moonshine lmfao
Fantastic set of explanations.
Bravo!!
You are trolling right?
I worked for a brewery briefly as a young man. We topped our beer off with an inert gas (Nitrogen) to force the air out of the bottler just before capping it. My boss explained that the oxygen in the air would cause problems with the beer, though I don't recall exactly what chemical/biological reactions it prevented. If plastic is permeable to air, as you say, then I imagine that the same problem would occur with beer bottled in plastic.
Can you please do an episode on Anderson Lassen. A member of the SOE during ww2. It would also make a really good Biography video as well.
The way he says aluminium.
Makes him so British?
Actually it's "aluminium". Stupid Americans misspelled it and the mistake stuck
@@kasiar1540 Wrong. The man who discovered it, a Brit, named it "aluminum". Look it up instead of being a provincial.
I have to admit, that's the first time I've heard it pronounced that way.
@@TravJam317 we pronounce it almost the same way in Norway. No aluminum for us!
That's not true they sell beer only in plastic bottles at OSU during game day especially when we play the Michigan Wolverines.
@Joe Schmo Good one 😁😁 😁
Did you watch the video or just read the title?
@@runarandersen878 Do you just kiss ass or lick it?
@@runarandersen878 The title is Why isn't beer sold in plastic bottles? I was just making a statement. Don't like it TS.
usuthu Ngadla1902 : Are you in kindergarten? Because you behave like it. Too hard to just be a grown up and behave? I wish your parents, family and friends would see how you acting here. You are reported. Goodbye.
I have a beer making kit that comes with quart size plastic bottles for carbonation and storage purposes. They do stress to keep them in a cool place. It's always been fine.
Fun fact: In the US, we pronounce (and spell) aluminium (which is correct) as "Aluminum." Why?
Because the first US aluminium company misspelled it on all their promo/startup stuff and didn't want to spend the money to fix it.
Well, come to germany brother
Cant let the muslims have shanks during these big events. Too dangerous.
Brismo stupid because they wouldn’t touch alcohol in the first place...
Das ranzlige Aldi bier 😂
Begone Nazi
fuck no.to many moslims.
Glass is heavier to ship and I bet the recycle value of glass per pound/kilo is less than "Al U miny um". More weight= more energy used.
But glass has the advantage that you can just refill the bottle after cleaning it, that's what companies do here in Germany
What is this 'al u Mini yum' that you speak of?
;-)
@@MerlijnDingemanse Assuming that the bottle isn't broken, that is.
broken bottles can easily be recycled to.
@@starandfox601 Broken bottles can be recycled, but it's not as easy as simply cleaning an unbroken bottle and refilling it as Merlin suggested. You have to melt the glass down and make a new bottle.
PhD chemist here with some qualification in pharmacology. The health concerns you started with are as wrong as they are sadly common.
thank god someone who isnt a chemical-phobe and actually knows what they are talking about! plastics overall are some of the safest substances ever created (with some exceptions)
not to mention that he only covered one type of plastic when there are a wide variety with many differing characteristics. saying there is one type of plastic is like saying there is one type of animal or plant!
I enjoy how you say aluminum. It makes me happy.
Plastic kegs are becoming a thing now; one example is Pub Keg. The beer goes into a plastic 'bottle' the shape of a large lightbulb, which goes into a blue keg shell. The bottle part is recyclable but not reusable but the shell is reused. I've also seen 1/2 bbl kegs that are essentially a recyclable, non-reusable large plastic bag (I've seen it used one time and don't know much more about them).
Al-lu-min-ium?
Americans pronounce it Alu-min-um, threw me off.
The proper spelling is Aluminium
@@Texassince1836 nope original spelling is aluminum. The British changed the spelling later.
@@Texassince1836 no
@@michaelp2952 aluminium
Both are correct.
_Wtf is pop? The music?_
Some Americans, mainly in the Mid West and the North West refer to soda as "pop", my wife calls it "pop" and it's super annoying.
My understanding is that up north they call it “pop”, down south, we call it “coke”, and pretty much everywhere, it’s called “soda”.
@@xxXthekevXxx I never understood why people call all soda "coke". I kind of get pop. It sounds wierd to me, but at the end of the day.. it makes sense. As for coke, in my opinion its the same thing as calling all cars a "ford"
In New England when I grew up, we called soda "tonic"
Has anybody ever tried moxie? It's made up there, and it's an extremely acquired taste.
Pop is an American colloquialism derived from "soda pop", which is a pretty common term.
Miller Lite is sold in the U.S. in plastic bottles in a lot of gas stations in poorer neighborhoods and at rock and country music festivals
I love that Brits add an extra syllable to aluminum.
Lamont Simpson um isn't pronounced as oom
Luke Buggey uh?
@@Bobdixon_Moonvarga_Dancer_III what?
Luke Buggey pardon?
@@Bobdixon_Moonvarga_Dancer_III I don't even know m8 I think I said oom, you said uh then I said what and you replied pardon, leaving me to say, "oom"-p-"uh" l-"oom"-p-"uh"
As other people have said, 40’s are plastic, and over here in Australia Carlton Cold was sold in plastic bottles for a short period! And homebrew is brewed in plastic tubs!
I've never seen a plastic beer bottle in Australia. I know of Carlton Cold, but never saw them when they were in plastic.
in American sports stadiums they sometimes have beer in plastic bottles, although it's usually just in a clear plastic cup.
In the boundary waters of Minnesota glass and cans are not allowed. So the towns around the BWCA sells beer in plastic.
Nice dissertation and something I had never thought about. Carry on. We are listening. Peace and health to you and your family. D
In Japan, hot beverages in PET bottles from vending machines (black and green tea, milk tea, lemon tea, etc) are pretty common during the cold months. I guess there's a type of PET bottles that can safely used for hot drinks.
After your friends drop a few glass 40ozs on your floor you find the plastic steel reserves are perfect
I've seen beer sold in plastic bottles before, typically at sports stadiums (like the stuff sold at the 2012 Olympics) where they don't want potentially rowdy people to have tons of glass in hand, and also where they expect to turn over their stock very quickly.
Here is the States, 95% of the plastic bottles are bought up by sports teams and concert venues. That remaining 5% is available for the consumer to purchase, but most of the time you would have to special order them.
Beer tastes good in glass bottles. Aluminum not so much.
My favorite local craft witbier comes in both aluminum cans and brown glass bottles. I taste no difference and in fact the cans are just superior. They really did improve the can linings to not leach out flavors into your beer.
I now only prefer glass when I'm drinking directly from the container but that's mostly because it stays colder longer in glass.
Fun experiment, purchase a six pack of your favorite non alcoholic fizzy beverage in plastic, glass and aluminum containers. Wait buy TWO six packs. Park one of each in the back of your fridge, and put the other three in a cool dry place (basement is ideal) for for the next six months do a blind taste test and record your notes comparing the taste with a freshly purchased sample
In Australia - specifically for safety reasons - serving alcohol in glass is very often prohibited at large (or even small) events. However, I only ever remember seeing it in plastic cups, never a bottle :/
Here where I live in merica we have a good bit of different beers sold in plastic bottles.
In the states there are a couple of beer companies that sell their beer in plastic bottles unfortunately it seems to be brands that rank pretty low in taste and price.
Most beer here in the Czech republic is in glass bottles or aluminium (sorry if I said it wrong) cans, but you can also find beer in plastic bottles, these are normally 1,5 - 2 Litres and are litle bit cheaper.
Plastic beer balls, holding several gallons, were a thing in the US several decades ago. I've also had beer from a plastic bottle at a fair.
Cans have made a big comeback at least in craft beer, it was in bottles for a long time mostly because of snobbery of the earlier customers. just about every microbrewery I frequent prefers to do canning now as the machines are cheaper enough to buy or hire a mobile canning truck, the beer lasts longer in cans, and being lighter and less fragile makes it easier to ship to stores. Also unlike plastic the can doesn't affect the flavor. Also another problem with plastic that cans and glass bottles don't have is that the carbonation can leak out much faster as the plastic is actually semi-permeable, which is why 2-Liter soda bottles go flat over time while soda in cans still has carbonation over a year later.
Simon Whistler: Aluminium in food has been liniked to alzheimer's and parkinson's, doesn't cite study = 12 000 likes on video.
Me a year earlier: Aluminium in food has been liniked to alzheimer's and parkinson's, cites multiple studies in a comment section = THAT'SNOTWHATTHOSESTUDIESMEAN TINFOIL TINFOIL
Life's hard.
There is a small lining in the cans to keep the fluid off the Aluminum. You're still correct on its dangers though.
Beer was in plastic bottles long before this video. Shaddap, Simon. xD
Balkans and east Europe is full of beer sold in plastic bottles.
Only the litre ones are in plastic the 0.5 are in cans or glass
Vodka from a plastic bottle tastes like drinking from a garden hose on a hot summer day.
Some beaches in florida dont allow glass on the beach so the stores sell plastic beer bottles. Most brands make a plastic version.