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Came here to see about the mother of martial arts... But you guys didn't even mentioned it.. so disappointed .. I think u guys don't even know about Kalaripayattu.. without it ur entire list is a joke.. 😂😂😂
Absolutely gutted that there are so many poorly regulated independent Krav Maga schools out there, because the Krav Maga philosophy to self-defence is sound. If they were all only able to be licensed to teach by the likes of Itay Gil, Eyal Yanilov and a select few others it would push the charlatans and fakes out. For the sake of the reputation of the art they should trademark the name Krav Maga and raise its standards.
So, I had a similar experience with BJJ. I've always wanted to learn martial art primarily for self-defense. I did BJJ for 2 years, and now I exclusively train Judo. In Bjj, we were just on the ground all the time, no takedowns, no takedown defence, no explosive aggression. Now I train judo, and I feel far more confident in my ability to defend myself.
good info, was thinking about doing bjj to combine with my muay thai, now i know to go for judo instead, which i was thinking as a third art initially.
While Front/Teep Kicks are amazing in fighting in general to disrupt the breathing off your opponent. Leg kicks are also a very good tool in fighting. But i think his perspective is that you don’t want to balance on one leg any time in a fight in a street. There are multiple factors why, being pumped with adrenaline often gives you tunnel vision which if you are not used to fight with adrenaline can upset your timing and accuracy a lot. If you miss your kick or it’s partially blocked/checked there’s a higher chance you get thrown or take-downed on the Concrete. Also neither of this moves are an instant finisher which are sub-optimal in a street fight just for that reason alone.
Kicks in general are too risky in a street situation because even if you connect untrained people will grab your legs and fall into you. Maybe a front snap kick is good.
@AndrewLaReal The problem with a front mae geri is that the man can be on top of you as the weight is in the back leg. The pendulum low kick might work better due to there being an escape route. Also the traditional Chinese arts create an angle with their foot which makes it difficult to get out the way of: if the knee lifts it would be a kick, if the knee does not lift the chances are it is a throw.
@@coltizz missing kicks and feeding into giving them a free check/counter is a skill issue on the operator. We're under the presumption that generally you're skilled enough to make it work more often than not
the biggest surprise was that this super legit expert thinks that there are no knee techniques in kickboxing and some surprises may also come with the idea that they don't know how to box. LOLOL
@@JJOV00 learn to listen -- he said "kickboxing has a bunch of different rule sets" -- there are plenty of videos on youtube of muay thai fighters fighting kickboxers under modified rules (no knees, no elbows - sometimes even no low kicks) because the kickboxers aren't used to them -- he even mentioned some famous kickboxers of the past who didn't use knees -- and there is a HUGE difference between boxers boxing ability and kickboxers boxing ability
@@okramoffacebook1381 whoopee -- you named one organization that allows it -- do ALL kickboxing organizations and rulesets allow knees ?? -- learn to listen -- he said "kickboxing has a bunch of different rule sets" -- there are plenty of videos on youtube of muay thai fighters fighting kickboxers under modified rules (no knees, no elbows - sometimes even no low kicks) because the kickboxers aren't used to them -- he even mentioned some famous kickboxers of the past who didn't use knees -- and there is a HUGE difference between boxers boxing ability and kickboxers boxing ability
@@JJOV00 He is thinking of kickboxing in the more traditional sense. There were never any knees in kickboxing for years until the Muay Thai influence. It was also known to be weaker in hand technqiues, even Muay Thai has undeveloped hand fighting until later on when influenced by Western boxing.
@@G3E007I mean I don’t disagree necessarily. But I do think it’s so dependant, it does knock it down the list for me. As someone who’s unfortunately been attacked a few times on the street I can tell you there’s two scenarios that usually occur. They’re either a wrestling type where you’ll both be on the ground or they’ll be swinging for your head off the bat. If you get the “boxing” type it might be applicable if you have good distance management. But just as many have gone to the ground for me. And that’s if you expect it in the first place, most commonly they’ve started with cheap shots from behind or a completely unexpected tackle to my side.
@@BradM you are using "they" so i assume you had street fights agains more than one? sorry mate but in that scenario the martial art changes almost nothing. your chances of surviving drops drastically when facing more than one opponent regardless the skill...
@@G3E007 I agree 100% with the multiple attacker scenario. Been unfortunate enough to have both, 1on1 and twice with multiple (1v2 and a 1v3). And I will say, every time it happened I wished I trained muay thai as it feels like it was more applicable to the scenarios I ended up in. But you're 100% right, when I got jumped by 3 people it was literally a matter of surviving and minimising damage as much as possible, think I only got 1 strike in the entire time (got tackled to ground by first guy and booted by the other two whilst I was grappling the other (Truly the most helpless feeling ever)) and in the 1v2 I just got very lucky. I also think ANY martial art is a benefit to your chances of survival, but some definitely better prepare you than others and I just don't think taekwondo would be my first choice if self defence was my primary focus.
@@BradM honestly, a gun or a knife would put you on the winning ground with multiple attackers more than a martial art. i only see valuable in a 1vs1 and even in that situation the can play dirty and hurl a stone for example. it helps but there is a lot of chance to be unlucky in a dirty fight...
Most people don't know how to take a punch, even fewer people know how to take a kick. The ability to take out your opponent outside their reach should definitely be considered too. A solid roundhouse to the leg and the average dude is down like a sag of potatoes.
Always felt low kicks were under rated. They're extremely painful, but at the same time they won't knock someone out or put them in the hospital- so in a way they could be a great "warning shot" for someone to back off. That, and it looks better in court than punching someone in the face.
@NickKano11 and leg kicks are also low risk high rewards. You dont need to commit so much when you throw a leg kick, but they hurt like hell after 3-4 hits.
But the number of people with training in has gone way up and you’ll run into a lot of us who know how to check a kick. On the other hand with the training comes knowing how to check a kick. So yes valuable but not the ultimate weapon you make it out to be
You really should make separate categories for Dutch Kickboxing and American when you carry out these interviews. It would save a lot of time with the explanations and get us more specific answers.
Agree! Even more so French kickboxing (Savate) is more of a kickboxing style than the previous two. Yet it's little known outside of France or even the rest of Europe.
Track and Field might be the best form of self defense. 1. You can probably out run them. 2. Someone tries to mess with you... On the day you have your pole vault. Youll easily evade your attacker by gaining roof access with eas. 3. Could you imagine fighting someone with a javelin? Not only can you use it close up it actually a range weapon.
I think it really depends on the teacher and the school. Like for example (just an example guys don't hate me) Japanese jujitsu guys are allowed to compete in National USA Judo matches if they are a members of "A.T.J.A." (American Traditional Jujutsu Association) so how can Japanese jujitsu be rated a D while judo is A-? The answer is unfortunately not all martial arts schools are made the same. If you want to know if a school is worth your time. Here's a simple test, answer these two simple questions 1. Does the instructor participate and challenge himself along with you. 2. Does he like to spare/roll with bigger faster guys then himself. If the answer to those two questions is yes! then your coach still considers himself a student also and any good teacher will tell you, they never stop learning. Avoid the teachers that never train and only demonstrate techniques on compliant, weaker, or slower people.
Paul Scharp's opinion is based, on what what he has experienced but it is more objective . I visited 2 JJJ gyms in holland where i'm from and they sparred! One gym only did ground sparring and the other like mma style ( striking, trows, ground) Japanese jiu jitsu should be higher because they are allround better fighters then the average Brasilian jiu jitsu practitioners. The syllabuss and concept of japanese jiu jitsu are full of self-defense stuff and is similair to gracie jiu jitsu !
There are lot of problems with this advice. Leaving aside legal issues - and remember that everything is on video nowadays - it is an observable fact that this is one of the biggest fails in self defense fighting. I personally have around 17,000 clips of self defense fights that I have collected in and studied in slow motion in recent years. As I said, one of the biggest fails is failing at the "intital entry". In fact, as many as 40% of all initial entries fail. An initial entry fails when the attack fails to prevent the opponent from being able to continue to attack. In general, guys miss, fail to hurt, fail to follow up, simply lose their balance and fall over, choose poor points of attack (very common) and so on.
@@Ectrue1977 Many people believe that it is true. "Just go first bro" Yet, very very often people do "just go first" yet they fvck it up. You have to train in how to go first properly.
Bro the officer said that because of sport rules on Judo, stuff like newaza have been severely watered down in Judo academies around the world. The average Judoka is not as good as it used to be.
@@alfredocampillo2476 maybe its differents in the us, but where i am we do a lot of newaza , may differ from academies to academies tho, iam not sure about it. the only thing is that we cant use leglocks and anklelocks.
I’ve been doing Boxing for 2 years (it’s my first and only art) and I was thinking about starting Judo or Jiu!! It’s a good combination right ? (I’m from Brazil)
@@Solid-Old For self-defence, totally! In addition to the judo throws mentioned in the video, you'll be surprised at how effective foot sweeps can be to end a confrontation. The problem with BJJ is you're grappling on the ground; it's ineffective self defence.
@ I feel you should learn how to punch and kick first then learn how to wrestle because you gotta understand flow first
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For self-defense you should train in situational awareness, de-escalation of conflicts, running and possibly, in urban environments, how to do free running and urban stealth in order to run and hide from possible pursuers, you also need knowledge of law, if you accidentally kill somebody by getting into a fight you can be charged with manslaughter. To fight is the last resource in self-defense only when all other options have failed. I know many examples of people who are trained in martial arts, including MMA and Muay Thai who got themselves killed by multiple assailants using knives, one case in particular was a police officer's son who was stabbed to death when he tried to apply his MMA knowledge to defend against a street gang who attacked him. Another example was a sportsperson who got into a fight and won with his martial arts skills only to be later on shot dead at a gas station by the person he beat up. Self-defense is not the same as street fighting and street fighting has no rules, no referees, but you are still bound by a country's laws. If you get out of it alive and avoided fighting that is a win, in self-defense.
Most people are already cowardly, you don't have to train that. And it's kind of cringe to pretend like you have to actively remind yourself to "de-escalate". No, if I bumped into you, you would apologize. That's how nearly everyone already thinks like anyways. It's this weird pretense of being some rugged badass, who holds himself back actively. No, you're afraid. You're a pussy. Like everyone else.
Except the gang example is a fundamentally different situation to one on one. The law does not require you to retreat, only that your defensive response be proportionate. You also dont have to wait to be struck first to rely on various defences.
I did boxing and taekwondo in college. Very true about boxing. It really showed me, I'm going to get hit, but tough through it and throw your combos. My instructor for taekwondo really focus on the basics. I believe taekwondo helped me a lot with my footwork and balance. Instructor was always yelling, KICK HARDER. I got a little practice with Hapkido, feels like Aikido trying to be like BJJ. Was interesting but I didn't continue with it. I want to find a Judo and Muay Thai school in the future and train in it. Get my kids to train in it too. I was interested in Jeet Kune Do in the past and found a school, but left very fast. From what it sounds like, they were point sparring and learning too much. "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." -Bruce Lee Crash course Air Force Combative Programs was interesting. Super quick, learn to jab, cross, choke, and try to not get choke or pin. I remember the instructor saying, if we ever have to go hands-on, it's probably a shitty day because 95% of us were from support units. LOL T_T
It would be interesting if you could get Erik Paulson to do one if these. He's always seemed really knowledgeable about a lot of different martial arts
@LouisianaMechanic I do not know much about groundfighting but I do know that Erik Paulson is a real handful. To my amazement he can relate empty hand kali and chi sao to groundwork.
Totally agree with this guy, I was amateur boxer in highschool back in the 80s and 90s, and got so much respect from winning streetfights until I watched the first UFC in 94 and started taking Gracie jujitsu in 95, and got to use it in a few streetfights that combo of boxing and bjj is all you need to be formidable
yeah I totally agree, BJJ is great as a sport and martial art. But for self defence... You need to be aware that some moves are just not safe to pull on the street.
@@HaroldBluetooth-uz1zz Well not everyone trains jiu jitsu for self defence. Some people just wants to train as a hobby or just to exercise. If you want to train jiu jitsu for self defence then you'll need to be aware that not everything you learn at a jiu jitsu gym is for a street fight.
@@jiujitsumemoir True. That’s why I really enjoy the gym I go to. They kinda cater to cops and military so they have more of a self defense system rather than pure sport. You just have to find the right gym.
@@conor7179 First Off, those are not rules. You either want to be right outside of the guys reach or completely within. The middle ground is where you get his. Secondly, bjj does not teach sitting down for self defense. If you actually this sport bjj is what we preach for self defense then you are a moron.
I enjoy these tier lists, especially when they are debated by people from completely different perspectives and backgrounds. Very cool idea for a video, and the guest had some interesting experiences to draw upon while rating these different martial arts.
I feel like Wonderboy Thompson and Paul would have an... interesting... discussion on karate for self-defense. The distance management, timing, etc. you learn in karate are very much effective from a self defense perspective. I'm not saying JUST karate is good enough for EVERY self defense situation, but I would like to have the option to end the fight with a well placed front kick then relying solely on my ability to fight in my opponents range, where weapons can come into play. "Point karate" has really done wonders to delegitimize karate as a self defense MA.
Yet i believe is Point Karate,or at least the way it was done before,that is the best to develop the unique karate skills. It is basically an unarmed version of fencing,far related to boxing and savate due to shared ancestry. They ,like fencing,also tend to develop timing,distance and movement more than the average thai kickboxing style.
I see your point, however I feel like point karate can teach bad habits, such as not protecting yourself at ALL times. They tend to not leave themselves in a defensive position after executing techniques. However, with a background in some grappling martial art it can be highly effective
I'd agree, karate and boxing teach some of the same skills. That said, I think point karate could be more effective for self defence IF cross trained with a grappling art, like Wrestling or Judo.
I wanted to come to the comment section and argue for the sake of Karate as well, but I had to take a step back and listen to their approach. They weren't saying if you trained for 1 year at a random average karate dojo. Not specifically Upstate Karate where you'll be trained by Wonderboy and Papa Ridgehand. Yes some Karate Dojos are more grounded in reality and do teach a legit form of fighting. However a large number have become "McDojos" and lost credibility.
I'm not thinking the same. I have been practising muay thai with a national champ for two years. We did sparrings every week. Now, I'm learning Kyokushin with a russian world champion. We do bare knuckle sparring every day. Kyokushin is one of the best martial arts you can learn to defend yourself in the street, because make you stronger, increase you endurance and give you the best technique to low and high kicks.
In my dojo, we were taught that taekwondo is a defensive martial art. My grandmaster taught us how to defend ourselves in real life situations, one of my instructors was a female. One day she got attacked going to her car by two men, she left those two men on the pavement. Taekwondo is not just about kicks. We learned very effective throws/hip tosses to get people off us. I promise if someone from my dojo throws you to the floor, you will not be getting up. Cause you’re going to catch a kick to the face after that. Axe kicks, and stomps were taught to neutralize the attacker. If they can get back up and attack me again then I haven’t neutralized the threat……
This is the best of these ranking videos I've seen. It uses the criteria I consider the best. How legit would fighting skills be of the average person after training 1 year at the average, typical school for each style. Even though I train primarily BJJ, I would only rank it C+ only because I've discovered most schools no longer have something like the classic "Gracie Combatives" as part of their curriculum. The school awarding me a blue belt required competency in these self defense skills as about 30% of the requirements for that belt. The rest was classic Gracie "rice and beans" BJJ, which is still mostly applicable for self-defense fighting. No pulling guard, flying cool-slick-whatever ninja moves. My current school offers 2 classes a week focused on self-defense and fighting skills, often including someone putting on gloves and training with punches. I've been at other schools that claim they teach self defense, but in practice they may teach a "self defense" technique every few weeks, and my opinion this is kind of lip service to it so they can put "self defense" on their marketing material. Sad.
the guy placed kickboxing and jujutsu in rank D below jeet kune do and pencak silat and placed karate and taekwondo in rank F, you can see that his knowledge of martial arts is very limited
Good to see you after a long time! You are looking great and thank you for the wonderful video. Btw, would've been great if you guys talked about Chinese Sanda (Sanshou). But still great though!
I can see why he ranked Karate low, and all those Mcdojos are to blame; but if you train honestly and give Shotokan its due, then its ability to put an opponent down with one well placed shot is something he forgets; since its not just punching but also elbows and knees, just like the May Thai guys use. Shotokan teaches you to get in fast, deal a powerful blow and get out as fast as you went in, seems an ideal way to deal with a mugger if you have to! By the way, I train with Shotokan Karate of America, Mr Ohshima's organization, and I would never want to try to take on any of his black belts!
I'm told Karate was made in Okinawa, inspired by other arts to protect/defend against the japanese invaders, it's come a long way/changed from it's original form, which had self defense as the priority and was harsher than the karate taught today.
@@thesnare100 you can find every type still taught today, it's like anything that's old and expansive and popular, there are 10,000 variations and it's up to you to do due diligence before you buy
@@thesnare100 I agree with the spirit of your comment; most karate is very removed from where it came from. Just FYI, the "defend against Japanese invaders" thing is a myth. Okinawa has/had other martial arts for military matters that included firearms and other weapons, not karate.
Another thing which caught my attention was Paul talking about wrestler, who also emphasize boxing. This reminds me of Ramsey Dewey, who talked about learning both grappling and striking, I think Ramsey was saying the situation could change from a striking situation to a grappling situation, or a grappling situation to a striking situation. So the situation in a fight is fluid
I have around 17,000 clips of self defense fights. I have closely studied all of them. Using the knees is very common. It is also the single biggest failing technique in my entire collection with a 99.999% failure rate. I think I have maybe two examples of the successful use of knees, and in these cases the knees attack the side of the head from a third man (2-on-1 situations). But every self defense course teaches them.Why do knees almost entirely fail? First, most people do not have the hip flexor strength or hip extension to produce the necessary power. Second, good power requires that we go up on the toes as we extend the hips, but it is dangerous to go up on the toes in self defense situations. We always want to keep our hips low. This is very basic and very important. Overall, it is a big mistake to think of SD fighting as being in any way similar to sportsfighting and sparring. They are as different as meat and vegetables. If someone is in bent-over a position to be kneed, it makes much more sense to just push or drag him to the ground and then kick him. The use of clothes to drag and pull is a very important part of SD fighting and is a feature of perhaps more than 90% of all SD fights.
Btw, I realize this is very premature & maybe a little middle school But season 3 could also have a recently-out US Marine or Soldier with no or little other martial arts experience aside from whatever combatives they were taught while serving
@@Diego-hm1wdYeah, that might be a valid reason. Still is kind of ironic Sharper generalizes all karate schools while giving Kudo (base in kyokushin karate) such a high score. Perfect example of "It's not the art but the practitioner who matters"
It's kind of impossible to grade MAs because it all comes down to HOW they train. I studied Japanese jujitsu and judo at the Houston Budokan and it was a very traditional school. But we grappled a lot and we also would have to spar against someone boxing (with gloves) on while we could only use judo and jujitsu. So when you say "I went to a school for this or that and it's not physical enough"....that all depends where you're training.
I describe boxing like the myth of the blind kung fu master who's sense are heightened because he's blind. Because in boxing you can only use your hands you get a lot more sensitive to understanding timing, distance, speed, reaction, defense, strategy etc.
Ive wrestled for 3 years competed in boxing for 3 years and been doing muay thai for 1 year, and never been in a street fight honestly im still not sure if i can fight
Self defense situations are complex and dangerous legal-social situations. People who are predators and don't care less about other people have significant advantages. And they are careful about who they choose to attack. Most self defense situations involve UNFAIRNESS - big on small, young on old, multiple on one, aggressive on retiring, ambushes and sucker punches. If I go to a dojo and watch people train for "self defense" scenarios, the first question I ask myself is "where is the unfairness here?" bcs unfairness is normal in SD situations. If our training does not always include at least the potential for unfairness (A fights B n the car park in a "fair fight" but when A starts to win, B's friend C jumps in) then we are in the world of "sparring" and, dare I say it, LARPing - which gives people a false idea of how these things usually play out. Unfairly. People who are interested in the topic of self defense can benefit from understanding that self defense situations start from legal-social situations in certain environments and that it is these conditions that drive technique and strategy slections. For example, we often see in road rage situations that one guy will get out of this car and stand in the door of this car. He thinks he is safe and protected, but in fact this is one of the word place you can stand. You can't move, escape, generate power. Bad. Never stand in the door of your car. And related to that, if you get out of your car, move over to the sidewalk. do not fight next to traffic, unless you want to go to prison for an accidental homicide,. Anyway, the truth is out there in fight videos on the internet. We need to study them to understand SD. Just armchair speculation is not worth much,
It sounds like you are smart enough to get out of a fight or avoid places where fights are likely to happen. That is the best defense. If it does happen I'm am sure you can handle yourself
You don’t spar? If so you should have an understanding if you can or not. Also most people dont have a clue what they’re doing so if you spar against people that do you have a massive advantage
Hey, why is none of the Martial Arts UA-camr make a tier list about "best martial arts for recreational exercise" (considering stuff like how well it trains the body, injury risk, easy to do when older etc) or "best martial arts for kids" (considering traini g mobility, building character etc) since those are the majority of people going to the dojo/training hall. How many really train for self defense??
gracie jiu-jitsu is already separate from brasilian jiu-jitsu? Lol. As a russian I must say systema is a scam. I guess some competent trainers under systema umbrella filled it with some actual useful moves, but in its original vbersion it was bullshido. And somehow systema is more famous that sambo and combat sambo in the west? I mean those are legit real martial arts, instead of "top secret KGB military deadly martial style".
Great advice on using the clinch in a streetfight. A friend of mine had to learn the hard way with a blade in his gut. Luckily, he survived. I like what Active Self Protection says.. "The eyes are the windows to the soul, and the hands are the windows to intent." Training to monitor/feel the belt line for weapons. Learning to stop the draw is very important. 👊
I don't understand something... why are people saying that judo doesn't have a ground? I practice judo and I even get to participate in BJJ tournaments. Do your judo schools only focus in the score system of competition?
Would love to see what you think of/ where you rank hapkido-especially with your aikido background. I'll begin my studies of it starting next week, but I'm aware it has a...mostly questionable reputation in the martial arts world, at best
I think hapkido is one that has a ton of variation. There are the no-BS varieties similar to Yoshinkan aikido that were used by vets, as well as the type that are like a bad aikido class combined with a bad tkd class.
I think you should have split karate into two differents categories, kyokushin and traditionnal styles. Kyokushin style (full contact) Karate is definately on par with lethwei or muay thai, and has nothing to do with traditionnal style such as shotokan or else (completely different training, conditionning and rules). Just go watch kyokushin competitions and see how brutal it is, and they get these rapid knock out even without being allowed to punch to the head, since they fight bare knuckles the amount of damages would be too important and would cause permanent injuries. Andy Hug, Semmy Schilt, George St Pierre, Bas Rutten to name a few were kyokushin practionners.
1:08:20 love the ninjutsu LOL eye roll. very common attitude. I was very curious about ninjas like every other kid i knew and I had an opportunity to train Bujinkan Taijutsu(ninjutsu) back in 94-96 for about 18 months. we followed Matsaaki Hatsumi's teachings and read his books. I learned some fun stuff including history, lore and practical applications of the Bujinkan style. there is so much more than what american movies and 80's culture romanticized about it.
Muay Thai & Judo is S tier combo. If you wanted to add any specialization or emphasis, then add BJJ. Nothing is going to be better than these two or three. Muay Thai is a stand up, highly pressure tested, art, that doesn't have the limitation of boxing, karate, taekwondo, etc. It's full contact, with punches, knees, kicks, and elbows. Not only that, but it a striking art that also deals with clinches and sweeps - Which pairs extremely well with the clinching and upper body grips and throws of Judo. Judo as a grappling art emphasizes upper body control and throws and sweeps, which is superior to lower body takedowns in a self defense context. It also has the same dominance and pin mentally as wrestling, but also deals with submissions and escapes, making it superior to wrestling for self defense, and while the submission game will not be S tier(thats BJJ), it gives you more than enough knowledge and ability for 99% of situations on the ground in self defense. If one wanted to add a specialization and emphasis, BJJ would be the icing on the cake to these two, to really hone ones submission ability, ground control and dominance, as well as ability to sweep and work from an inferior position. To be able to fight and recover from off ones back. Last point that makes a grappling emphasis superior for self defense, is its ability to modulate intensity and force, to a given altercation. If we are talking about a truly life or death situation, then you will need a high level of force escalation like a weapon. Namely a gun. In that situation, having superior grappling skills, is the only skillset that will increase weapon retention. In none life threatening situations, being able to impose control with minimal damage (grappling) will also allow you to survive the coming legal battle - the goal is to return home safely, not rot in a prison cell, because you knocked a guy out, and he hit his head on the ground and died.
From personal experience, I don't think you can underestimate the efficacy of low kicks in any style. Boxers unaccustomed to low kicks will at worst lose their base/mobility and at best be distracted. Conversely, many styles do not punch to the face like boxing and that works in reverse.
There's no such thing as "Japanese Jujutsu" in the same way we talk about "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu". It's not a unified entity. Instead, there are several schools (lineages/styles) of traditional Jujutsu with samurai origins. For example, Kodokan Judo, which influenced Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ), is actually a combination of different Jujutsu styles. The main schools that contributed to Kodokan techniques include Tenshin Shinyō-ryū Jujutsu, Kito-ryū Jujutsu, and Yagyu Shingan-ryū Jujutsu. However, there are other traditional Jujutsu styles that Jigoro Kano trained in and integrated into Kodokan. Similarly, Aikido itself emerged from a traditional school with samurai origin known as Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu. If you compare these precursor styles, you'll find them quite similar. However, Kano refined and improved the techniques, while Ueshiba degraded the techniques from Daito-ryu, resulting in something more limited and less rigorously tested. 🤣 If you're referring to literal Ninjutsu, it shouldn't even be on this list because Ninjutsu isn't a martial art. The Bujinkan, the largest organization claiming to teach Ninjutsu, is essentially a compilation of 9 traditional Jujutsu styles or variations like Koppojutsu, Dakentaijutsu, etc. (while there are differences between these styles and those that influenced Judo and Aikido, they may not be immediately apparent to outsiders), taught both mixed and separately. However, some of these styles have questionable lineage, particularly the three claiming ninja origins. When they attempt to adapt techniques for modern contexts, it essentially becomes a degraded version, much like what Aikido did with the original Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu form. Nevertheless, if you mention "Ninjutsu" in reference to Bujinkan or Genbukan, it should still rank higher than Aikido simply because they are essentially Jujutsu schools with the original form preserved (excluding unconventional and questionable modern adaptations), whereas Aikido represents a degradation of the original Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu form, with a possible exception for Shodokan Aikido, which incorporates real-time pressure testing.
Thanks mate, it's a bless to find some culture sometime about what jujutsu is, instead of the usual bla bla and ignorant misconceptions. I would like to add, also partially related to jujutsu, that most of the martial arts were born to fight armed, and somehow try to survive once disarmed, in the end what most people nowday call martial arts were mostly simple sports or violent game for the last 2000 years(look boxe and wrestling in europe and sumo in japan). In the end if someone really want to learn how to defend himself he simply need to learn one style and how to apply it, or choose one concelable weapon and to ise it, stop.
Thanks! I guess I may have sounded like those nerd dudes who starts speaking "Actually..." like the memes, but I found it would worth to point those things out anyway. 😂
The point is that if you sign up to a school that says "JiuJitsu" at the door and it isn't BJJ, you're probably not gonna learn much fighting. The ppl doing "Japanese JiuJitsu" at my uni are nerds that constantly bow and never spar.
Working 15 years in public transportation security, I can honestly say that using Wing Chun defense in a train while 2 heavy set eastern european trying to put my lights out simultaneously on a subway train was nullified,(and who both eventually ran away), and Aikido nagawaza arm throw and arm lock on the ground subdued a shirtless drug induced individual on the platform, and this then became my "go to technique" - especially when the assailant(s) can only squirm on the ground like a fish, and biting punching,spitting, and kicking doesn't do anything to solid concrete. Multiple attackers is where boxing and escrima (defense stick) can be employed. A fellow Patrol Guard from France who was a semi professional kickboxer with a very small frame had the nickname "Van Dam" and the patrol boots surprised many unsuspecting aggressors, so it's about timing, application and intention - and you will be able to defend yourself with: ALL OF THE ABOVE listed in this video.
Hey really nice video i just wanted to ask your opinion,i was talking with my friends about mma vs boxing for self defence and my friend was saying that mma is better because it has a lot more options as opposed to boxing which is a lot more limited but i was thinking if you take a normal person betwen 25-40 years old that does 9-5 work and trains 2x to 3x per week(1 hour sessions ) for a year you would be much better at boxing than in mma making it kind of more effective for self defense? Because i was at couple sessions in mma gym where we did 30 min grappling and 30 striking and i kind of felt like i didnt learn much?Maybe i need to give it more time anyway thanks for answer
I'm of the same opinion. Boxing is the best bang for your buck, the one that will make you into a competent fighter fastest. I've been training boxing for 2 year, twice a week. The gym where I box is actually a MMA gym that offers a couple of boxing sessions a week. Some of the MMA guys are absolute beasts who could destroy me in any specialized fighting discipline, including boxing, but they basically live at the gym. Once in a while I've light-sparred relative beginner MMA who rarely come to boxing class. Their boxing is really shitty. I see it like this: defensively, choosing MMA makes sense because you have a lot of options and you won't be completely lost in any aspect of the fight. The strength of boxing is that you'll get really good at what you do, and what you do just might mean knocking out multiple opponents in one shot each. It's high risk, high reward.
The first thing a self defense beginner needs to learn is basic wrestling and how to execute and thwart body locks, single legs, double legs, and head controls both bcs standing grappling is very very common in self defense fights and bcs the worst thing that can happen to you in a fight is that you get picked up and body slammed onto concrete. As for boxing, it has great value bcs it teaches you how to ecnoomically generate hitting power. Just make sure that you practise hitting from cover guards (chin down, shoulders up) bcs a blow to the face/head will finish things and learn to throw tight, targetted punches at close quarters (not time-wasting looping shots). Also note that you will be fighting without gloves, so learn to also makes good use of your big knuckles to the face and to hit USING THE INSIDE OF YOUR FIST against head targets, in particular for high-value targets such as behind the ear or the side of the head. For these, keep your elbow pointed down as you hit. Also, train to have a fist that closes properly so that you do not break it and strong wrists. Get a block of piece of foam, say 5 inches by 5 inches, and practise squeezing it to make a fist. Involve all of your fingers. Make sure the fingers also supprt each other as you squeeze. This is a great exercise.
We need to have a pair of twins who have never done martial arts, and make they take muy thai and karate for a year, and have them spare MMA style at the end.
28:00 Sensei Seth and Jesse Enkamp would like to have a word 🤣 I have had a LOT of success using Karate, but I also lucked out with my sensei, and the substyle they taught being combat-focused rather than sport focused...
Seth and Jesse have both addressed that “karate” is overall very poor for self defense because most places don’t teach it very well. It’s sad because if you look the Kata and study what the original applications were meant to be, Karate should be VERY effective for self defense. Unfortunately most Karate schools today don’t teach applications and many that do teach applications are terrible applications and don’t do any pressure testing of any kind. Thankfully there’s a small but growing movement of practical Karate so hopefully this may change in a decade or two
@@alexanderren1097 indeed so. by pure happenstance My sensei was one that was obsessed with applicability and warring-states-period Karate/Jiu-jitsu, and also required all students (even little ones) to spar every class in order to rank passed green belt (weeding out the tryouts), and who'd been taught by an american-born japanese man who; in order to reconnect with his heritage, but also inspired by the then-new-Kung Fu Icon Bruce Lee; traveled back to japan and learned karate at a 'revivalist' school, trying to reconstruct and teach non-ritual, actual combat as it was done by the Samurai... then brought that back to (Wisconsin? IDK, we were in AZ at the time...) It's fascinating, and wild, while researching, to see how radically the Japanese Martial Arts changed after Japan was unified, and the samurai all but stopped fighting: only a small portion participated in policing, with most considering fighting non-samurai to be beneath them (and they didn't really know how to fight without killing). A lot of folk forget how many whole generations of Samurai never set foot on a battlefield, and before the Caste was wholly dissolved, the last generation or two didn't even fight duals to the death, which were outlawed by then, (though even those had become so ritualized by then as to be basically unrelated to actual combat. some even argued that modern kendo is more combative than some of the last duals were). Interestingly, TKD has a traditional, combat-oriented form as well, which is hardly recognizable as TKD at all... it's a pretty common phenomenon with the older styles, really.
hey rokas, I was wondering if you could make one of your tier list videos but classify the martial arts according to danger for the practitioner. Just an idea 😅
I still say we need to separate karate into 2 categories at least, Japanese karate, and Okinawan karate. A Japanese karate *usually doesn't have close fighting, grappling, throws, etc. a traditional Okinawan karate, kept all of that (for the most part)
28:12 - 31:12 Then how come my "Martial Arts in Street Fighting" playlist has news videos that there are Karate fighters who have successfully fend off their attacker in the street??
Ive trained in a mix of taekwondo and mma with some marks of Muay Thai and I’ve been in around 10 street fights. Kicks have never failed me as if a person is expecting to have a fist fight and you train and are fast with hook, side, back, or roundhouse kicks you cant see my leg. Kicks never fail.
One of the best self defense things you would be surprised to learn is melee fighting games. It teaches you tactics, when and where to engage and when and where to run. How to engage and disengage against 1v1 and group situation is critical. You can be the best 1-1 fighter but if you are bad at when and how to engage you will get overwhelmed.
Great video and Paul was great! Coming from Cuba 🇨🇺 the only thing I regret is not training boxing, judo or wrestling there! Instead I drank the kool aid of the taekwondo and aikido, what a waste of an opportunity. Now doing Judo, BJJ and Muay Thai in USA 🇺🇸!!!
Rokas i have a good idea for a teir list. Self defense for over 40 year olds and the disabled. Always learn what is illegal in the Sport of Fighting. It's all good in the street if you can convince the Judge.
do not tempt me ... 45, disabled... ex forces/security, judo blackbelt. Honestly i've recently started incorporating my walking stick into my daily training (which i have to do to move well).
@@markupton1417 yeh im english.. a blunt spoon modification might get me trouble ;) It has to be something that can very obviously be not done for being a weapon. like structural reinforcement - or a torch (flash light to the yanks).
Good video with honest insight.👍Interesting comment about Japanese Ju-Jitsu not pressure testing and that you can go to a class and not break a sweat. The Japanese based Ju- Jitsu that I took for many years would. Have you fighting everyday and you would come out of there feeling like a wet paper towel. The physical workrounds were harder than any football camp.
@@pinksupremacy6076 i do not know where that misconception comes from but as a practitioner of japanese jujutsu i can say qe do spar every lesson its mostly grapling but we do spar
Something I rarely see demontrated against an experienced opponent in striking, kickng,elbows and grappling but with the additional skill of "Sticking-hands" (someone like Erik Paulson). How would the skilled striker do against another striker whose main game is to not let you have control of your hands and feet after initial contact is made?
I understand what you are saying about the brain trauma however I have never been in a fight were some guy was not trying to hit me in the head. yeah gotta have an answer for it..
@@Cuffsmaster the problem is, most of the average joes (not cops, soldiers, etc) won't even see the day where they will be involved in a real fight, but you risk getting brain damage preparing for something that you'll less likely to encounter in a world that has a law system. So instead of risking brain damage, I'd learn grappling arts like judo or sambo. Grappling is superior than striking anyway.
@@capricola8682grappling and striking are 2 dimensions that complement eachother. Neither one is superior because it all depends on the situation which one is suitable to use, or both.
@@Cuffsmaster taking brain damage to one day maybe avoid brain damage seems like an awful bargain one can avoid nearly all fights simply by being armed and not congregating with stupid people
Legitimate Krav maga organisations like IKMF, KMW, and KMG are notoriously stingy about coaching badges, grading and giving out belts. Going straight to the poor quality control in the US has become a bit of a lazy trope on this topic. How would Paul like if someone were to rank "police professionalism" based on the what they know about standards in Haiti or New Delhi?
@@petealmeida2071 outside action thrillers undercover cops are supposed to not draw negative attention, get intel and stay out of harm's way. Then heavily armed SWAT teams do the heavy lifting. So this guy is not supposed to know a lot about unarmed fighting in the line of duty. Unless he got caught flat footed, without access to colleagues or weapons to help him and had to fist fight his way out of a situation..... aka he messed up big time. Perhaps he did a lot of martial arts training in his free time or he did other work that caused him to end up in lots of unarmed combat (bouncing, security, crowd control, booking officer etc). Yet the channel of course sells it like him being an undercover cop somehow gives him expertise or experience in hand to hand combat and we now should listen to his opinion on what martial arts work best for da street.
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Normies: "when's the new Avengrs movie coming out?"
Maj Enjoyers: "can't wait for USDC2"
For real, screw the next Marvel movie, give me USDC 2!
Came here to see about the mother of martial arts... But you guys didn't even mentioned it.. so disappointed .. I think u guys don't even know about Kalaripayattu.. without it ur entire list is a joke.. 😂😂😂
If you want a Fighting System that delivers on the false Promises that Aikido makes it is Target Focus Training not BJJ.
Absolutely gutted that there are so many poorly regulated independent Krav Maga schools out there, because the Krav Maga philosophy to self-defence is sound. If they were all only able to be licensed to teach by the likes of Itay Gil, Eyal Yanilov and a select few others it would push the charlatans and fakes out. For the sake of the reputation of the art they should trademark the name Krav Maga and raise its standards.
Just came to say Karate 🥋 Carry on.
Message received 🫡
Wise message 👨🦳🙏
Okinawa, it's birth place
Kyokushin Karate ..carry on !
Okinawa, the birthplace of....
So, I had a similar experience with BJJ. I've always wanted to learn martial art primarily for self-defense. I did BJJ for 2 years, and now I exclusively train Judo. In Bjj, we were just on the ground all the time, no takedowns, no takedown defence, no explosive aggression. Now I train judo, and I feel far more confident in my ability to defend myself.
Best if you are standing and someone else is not... you won.
good info, was thinking about doing bjj to combine with my muay thai, now i know to go for judo instead, which i was thinking as a third art initially.
You were probably at the wrong BJJ school. At good schools they train you for takedowns regularly
Fundamental classes usually aimed at standing and self defence some time takedowns. But judo imho is decent for standing self defence
@@aler8910 at super competitive schools i've been too most of them butt scoot. sad.
"His real fake ID" super funny sentence😂
Haha, I can't disagree 😄
He’s thinking of old school American Kickboxing not Dutch/Japanese kickboxing that is heavy on low kicks
Came too say this! Dutch style kickboxing has heavy emphasis on the lead leg kick, and as he said he ended a streetfight with a single leg kick.
Bro I was gonna say this too 😂
Dutch kickboxing is essentially muay thai, but without the elbows and clinching
@@MinussyChan only in terms of rule set. The fighting tactics are different though.
Big leg kick will stop a fight against most , without the danger of killing anyone .
Brilliant to see you raise awareness of KUDO again! Many thanks from the UK KUDO FED 🔥👍 Great video, he clearly knows his stuff
Kudo and Muay Thai skills
What Paul forgets is that a front kick is extremely useful to offset pressure. Secondly, kicks to leg are devastating to an untrained person.
While Front/Teep Kicks are amazing in fighting in general to disrupt the breathing off your opponent. Leg kicks are also a very good tool in fighting. But i think his perspective is that you don’t want to balance on one leg any time in a fight in a street. There are multiple factors why, being pumped with adrenaline often gives you tunnel vision which if you are not used to fight with adrenaline can upset your timing and accuracy a lot. If you miss your kick or it’s partially blocked/checked there’s a higher chance you get thrown or take-downed on the Concrete. Also neither of this moves are an instant finisher which are sub-optimal in a street fight just for that reason alone.
Kicks in general are too risky in a street situation because even if you connect untrained people will grab your legs and fall into you. Maybe a front snap kick is good.
The brain of your opponent is not in the knee/shin...
@AndrewLaReal
The problem with a front mae geri is that the man can be on top of you as the weight is in the back leg. The pendulum low kick might work better due to there being an escape route. Also the traditional Chinese arts create an angle with their foot which makes it difficult to get out the way of: if the knee lifts it would be a kick, if the knee does not lift the chances are it is a throw.
@@coltizz missing kicks and feeding into giving them a free check/counter is a skill issue on the operator. We're under the presumption that generally you're skilled enough to make it work more often than not
Thank you very much Rokas for this honest-down-to-earth ranking! Really glad you are back in good health and looking forward to more great content.
Hands down the biggest surprise on this list was Kickboxing's ranking.
the biggest surprise was that this super legit expert thinks that there are no knee techniques in kickboxing and some surprises may also come with the idea that they don't know how to box. LOLOL
No knees in kickboxing.
K1 is kickboxing With knees
@@JJOV00 learn to listen -- he said "kickboxing has a bunch of different rule sets" -- there are plenty of videos on youtube of muay thai fighters fighting kickboxers under modified rules (no knees, no elbows - sometimes even no low kicks) because the kickboxers aren't used to them -- he even mentioned some famous kickboxers of the past who didn't use knees -- and there is a HUGE difference between boxers boxing ability and kickboxers boxing ability
@@okramoffacebook1381 whoopee -- you named one organization that allows it -- do ALL kickboxing organizations and rulesets allow knees ?? -- learn to listen -- he said "kickboxing has a bunch of different rule sets" -- there are plenty of videos on youtube of muay thai fighters fighting kickboxers under modified rules (no knees, no elbows - sometimes even no low kicks) because the kickboxers aren't used to them -- he even mentioned some famous kickboxers of the past who didn't use knees -- and there is a HUGE difference between boxers boxing ability and kickboxers boxing ability
@@JJOV00 He is thinking of kickboxing in the more traditional sense. There were never any knees in kickboxing for years until the Muay Thai influence. It was also known to be weaker in hand technqiues, even Muay Thai has undeveloped hand fighting until later on when influenced by Western boxing.
"Every Martial art is an F unless I took it and liked it"
i was thinking the same. he maybe needs to witness a spin back kick from taekwondo...
@@G3E007I mean I don’t disagree necessarily. But I do think it’s so dependant, it does knock it down the list for me. As someone who’s unfortunately been attacked a few times on the street I can tell you there’s two scenarios that usually occur. They’re either a wrestling type where you’ll both be on the ground or they’ll be swinging for your head off the bat. If you get the “boxing” type it might be applicable if you have good distance management. But just as many have gone to the ground for me. And that’s if you expect it in the first place, most commonly they’ve started with cheap shots from behind or a completely unexpected tackle to my side.
@@BradM you are using "they" so i assume you had street fights agains more than one? sorry mate but in that scenario the martial art changes almost nothing. your chances of surviving drops drastically when facing more than one opponent regardless the skill...
@@G3E007 I agree 100% with the multiple attacker scenario. Been unfortunate enough to have both, 1on1 and twice with multiple (1v2 and a 1v3). And I will say, every time it happened I wished I trained muay thai as it feels like it was more applicable to the scenarios I ended up in. But you're 100% right, when I got jumped by 3 people it was literally a matter of surviving and minimising damage as much as possible, think I only got 1 strike in the entire time (got tackled to ground by first guy and booted by the other two whilst I was grappling the other (Truly the most helpless feeling ever)) and in the 1v2 I just got very lucky. I also think ANY martial art is a benefit to your chances of survival, but some definitely better prepare you than others and I just don't think taekwondo would be my first choice if self defence was my primary focus.
@@BradM honestly, a gun or a knife would put you on the winning ground with multiple attackers more than a martial art. i only see valuable in a 1vs1 and even in that situation the can play dirty and hurl a stone for example. it helps but there is a lot of chance to be unlucky in a dirty fight...
Most people don't know how to take a punch, even fewer people know how to take a kick. The ability to take out your opponent outside their reach should definitely be considered too. A solid roundhouse to the leg and the average dude is down like a sag of potatoes.
Always felt low kicks were under rated. They're extremely painful, but at the same time they won't knock someone out or put them in the hospital- so in a way they could be a great "warning shot" for someone to back off.
That, and it looks better in court than punching someone in the face.
Glad my karate sensei taught me that and he’s right nobody has really been punched in the face
@NickKano11 and leg kicks are also low risk high rewards. You dont need to commit so much when you throw a leg kick, but they hurt like hell after 3-4 hits.
@@jagkanlagapasta they hurt after 1 hit! 😂
But the number of people with training in has gone way up and you’ll run into a lot of us who know how to check a kick. On the other hand with the training comes knowing how to check a kick. So yes valuable but not the ultimate weapon you make it out to be
You really should make separate categories for Dutch Kickboxing and American when you carry out these interviews.
It would save a lot of time with the explanations and get us more specific answers.
Agree! Even more so French kickboxing (Savate) is more of a kickboxing style than the previous two. Yet it's little known outside of France or even the rest of Europe.
is American kickboxing still alive?
Track and Field might be the best form of self defense.
1. You can probably out run them.
2. Someone tries to mess with you... On the day you have your pole vault. Youll easily evade your attacker by gaining roof access with eas.
3. Could you imagine fighting someone with a javelin? Not only can you use it close up it actually a range weapon.
I never leave my house without my shotput
@@artemrevelskyI carry a discus in the buff, no one messes with me.
The smell of feet in my running shoes knock people out real quick.
Gunfu
Then making money is the best self-defense.
I think it really depends on the teacher and the school. Like for example (just an example guys don't hate me) Japanese jujitsu guys are allowed to compete in National USA Judo matches if they are a members of "A.T.J.A." (American Traditional Jujutsu Association) so how can Japanese jujitsu be rated a D while judo is A-? The answer is unfortunately not all martial arts schools are made the same. If you want to know if a school is worth your time. Here's a simple test, answer these two simple questions 1. Does the instructor participate and challenge himself along with you. 2. Does he like to spare/roll with bigger faster guys then himself. If the answer to those two questions is yes! then your coach still considers himself a student also and any good teacher will tell you, they never stop learning. Avoid the teachers that never train and only demonstrate techniques on compliant, weaker, or slower people.
Paul Scharp's opinion is based, on what what he has experienced but it is more objective .
I visited 2 JJJ gyms in holland where i'm from and they sparred!
One gym only did ground sparring and the other like mma style ( striking, trows, ground)
Japanese jiu jitsu should be higher because they are allround better fighters then the average Brasilian jiu jitsu practitioners.
The syllabuss and concept of japanese jiu jitsu are full of self-defense stuff and is similair to gracie jiu jitsu !
Just came to say: Strike first, strike hard and no mercy. 🐍 Carry on.
That is pure Sucker-punch-ido 👊🏼
There are lot of problems with this advice. Leaving aside legal issues - and remember that everything is on video nowadays - it is an observable fact that this is one of the biggest fails in self defense fighting. I personally have around 17,000 clips of self defense fights that I have collected in and studied in slow motion in recent years. As I said, one of the biggest fails is failing at the "intital entry". In fact, as many as 40% of all initial entries fail. An initial entry fails when the attack fails to prevent the opponent from being able to continue to attack. In general, guys miss, fail to hurt, fail to follow up, simply lose their balance and fall over, choose poor points of attack (very common) and so on.
This was a quote from Cobra Kai. Not serious.
@@Ectrue1977 Many people believe that it is true. "Just go first bro" Yet, very very often people do "just go first" yet they fvck it up. You have to train in how to go first properly.
"Strike first", "no mercy"; congrats, you are now the aggressor, and guilty of unlawful use of force.
Judo doesn't have ground work? lol it's called Newaza and it has Chokes, Pins & Arm locks
And more...
Yeah I was surprised when I heard that
Bro the officer said that because of sport rules on Judo, stuff like newaza have been severely watered down in Judo academies around the world.
The average Judoka is not as good as it used to be.
@@alfredocampillo2476 meaning? Judo is like the gun with the safety on. It's Very easy to take the safety off.
@@alfredocampillo2476 maybe its differents in the us, but where i am we do a lot of newaza , may differ from academies to academies tho, iam not sure about it. the only thing is that we cant use leglocks and anklelocks.
Boxing and judo is all you need. Maybe, a little of BJJ if you can't find a judo dojo.
Best striking, best grappling. It's why both are common sights in prisons as well.
I’ve been doing Boxing for 2 years (it’s my first and only art) and I was thinking about starting Judo or Jiu!! It’s a good combination right ? (I’m from Brazil)
@@Solid-Old For self-defence, totally! In addition to the judo throws mentioned in the video, you'll be surprised at how effective foot sweeps can be to end a confrontation. The problem with BJJ is you're grappling on the ground; it's ineffective self defence.
@@Solid-Old I practice judo/boxing combination. Try it.There will be a new world opening in front of you. 🙂
JuDo doesn’t teach you how to sprawl though
Kickboxing and wrestling is really all you need
Or boxing and judo 😊
Learn boxing first, then wrestling, then add any third discipline and no random untrained dude can touch you
@ I feel you should learn how to punch and kick first then learn how to wrestle because you gotta understand flow first
For self-defense you should train in situational awareness, de-escalation of conflicts, running and possibly, in urban environments, how to do free running and urban stealth in order to run and hide from possible pursuers, you also need knowledge of law, if you accidentally kill somebody by getting into a fight you can be charged with manslaughter. To fight is the last resource in self-defense only when all other options have failed. I know many examples of people who are trained in martial arts, including MMA and Muay Thai who got themselves killed by multiple assailants using knives, one case in particular was a police officer's son who was stabbed to death when he tried to apply his MMA knowledge to defend against a street gang who attacked him. Another example was a sportsperson who got into a fight and won with his martial arts skills only to be later on shot dead at a gas station by the person he beat up. Self-defense is not the same as street fighting and street fighting has no rules, no referees, but you are still bound by a country's laws. If you get out of it alive and avoided fighting that is a win, in self-defense.
True, street fighting and self defense are 2 different things, but can be very similar
Most people are already cowardly, you don't have to train that.
And it's kind of cringe to pretend like you have to actively remind yourself to "de-escalate". No, if I bumped into you, you would apologize. That's how nearly everyone already thinks like anyways. It's this weird pretense of being some rugged badass, who holds himself back actively. No, you're afraid. You're a pussy. Like everyone else.
Except the gang example is a fundamentally different situation to one on one. The law does not require you to retreat, only that your defensive response be proportionate. You also dont have to wait to be struck first to rely on various defences.
I did boxing and taekwondo in college. Very true about boxing. It really showed me, I'm going to get hit, but tough through it and throw your combos. My instructor for taekwondo really focus on the basics. I believe taekwondo helped me a lot with my footwork and balance. Instructor was always yelling, KICK HARDER. I got a little practice with Hapkido, feels like Aikido trying to be like BJJ. Was interesting but I didn't continue with it. I want to find a Judo and Muay Thai school in the future and train in it. Get my kids to train in it too. I was interested in Jeet Kune Do in the past and found a school, but left very fast. From what it sounds like, they were point sparring and learning too much.
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." -Bruce Lee
Crash course Air Force Combative Programs was interesting. Super quick, learn to jab, cross, choke, and try to not get choke or pin. I remember the instructor saying, if we ever have to go hands-on, it's probably a shitty day because 95% of us were from support units. LOL T_T
Quoting Bruce Lee is a sign of ignorance...
It would be interesting if you could get Erik Paulson to do one if these. He's always seemed really knowledgeable about a lot of different martial arts
@LouisianaMechanic
I do not know much about groundfighting but I do know that Erik Paulson is a real handful. To my amazement he can relate empty hand kali and chi sao to groundwork.
Totally agree with this guy, I was amateur boxer in highschool back in the 80s and 90s, and got so much respect from winning streetfights until I watched the first UFC in 94 and started taking Gracie jujitsu in 95, and got to use it in a few streetfights that combo of boxing and bjj is all you need to be formidable
Why so many fights ?
@@Cuffsmaster I was hanging around the riff raff crowd
yeah I totally agree, BJJ is great as a sport and martial art. But for self defence... You need to be aware that some moves are just not safe to pull on the street.
Then stop training sport jujitsu and focus more on Gracie/mma jujitsu.
@@HaroldBluetooth-uz1zz Well not everyone trains jiu jitsu for self defence. Some people just wants to train as a hobby or just to exercise. If you want to train jiu jitsu for self defence then you'll need to be aware that not everything you learn at a jiu jitsu gym is for a street fight.
@@jiujitsumemoir True. That’s why I really enjoy the gym I go to. They kinda cater to cops and military so they have more of a self defense system rather than pure sport. You just have to find the right gym.
Bjj breaks the 2 biggest rules of self defense. Keep your attacker at arms length and stay on your feet
@@conor7179 First Off, those are not rules. You either want to be right outside of the guys reach or completely within. The middle ground is where you get his. Secondly, bjj does not teach sitting down for self defense. If you actually this sport bjj is what we preach for self defense then you are a moron.
18:14 the gentleman is talking about "Only the Strong" with Marc Dacascos.
The Quest
Without any doubt this was the best video I've seen on this subject,very helpful.thank you
So happy to see kudo getting some love
It's so great to see another video from you. We missed you Rokas!
I enjoy these tier lists, especially when they are debated by people from completely different perspectives and backgrounds. Very cool idea for a video, and the guest had some interesting experiences to draw upon while rating these different martial arts.
dang, was really expecting the sanda and kempo ranking
Muay Thai for the elbows/knees
Boxing for the head movement and footwork
(Both for regular sparring)
This felt like a solid talk on the topic. Well done, officer!
I feel like Wonderboy Thompson and Paul would have an... interesting... discussion on karate for self-defense. The distance management, timing, etc. you learn in karate are very much effective from a self defense perspective. I'm not saying JUST karate is good enough for EVERY self defense situation, but I would like to have the option to end the fight with a well placed front kick then relying solely on my ability to fight in my opponents range, where weapons can come into play. "Point karate" has really done wonders to delegitimize karate as a self defense MA.
Yet i believe is Point Karate,or at least the way it was done before,that is the best to develop the unique karate skills. It is basically an unarmed version of fencing,far related to boxing and savate due to shared ancestry.
They ,like fencing,also tend to develop timing,distance and movement more than the average thai kickboxing style.
I see your point, however I feel like point karate can teach bad habits, such as not protecting yourself at ALL times. They tend to not leave themselves in a defensive position after executing techniques. However, with a background in some grappling martial art it can be highly effective
Yeah... Wonder Boy the genetic freak + decades of dedication VS. This guy. It would be interesting.
I'd agree, karate and boxing teach some of the same skills. That said, I think point karate could be more effective for self defence IF cross trained with a grappling art, like Wrestling or Judo.
I wanted to come to the comment section and argue for the sake of Karate as well, but I had to take a step back and listen to their approach.
They weren't saying if you trained for 1 year at a random average karate dojo. Not specifically Upstate Karate where you'll be trained by Wonderboy and Papa Ridgehand.
Yes some Karate Dojos are more grounded in reality and do teach a legit form of fighting. However a large number have become "McDojos" and lost credibility.
Wow excellent interview and great breakdown of the different arts! Thank you! 🥊🥊🥋
Rokas, perhaps your next comparison video should be based on 6 months to a year’s training, two to three times a week.
I LOVE this idea
I'm not thinking the same. I have been practising muay thai with a national champ for two years. We did sparrings every week. Now, I'm learning Kyokushin with a russian world champion. We do bare knuckle sparring every day. Kyokushin is one of the best martial arts you can learn to defend yourself in the street, because make you stronger, increase you endurance and give you the best technique to low and high kicks.
In my dojo, we were taught that taekwondo is a defensive martial art. My grandmaster taught us how to defend ourselves in real life situations, one of my instructors was a female. One day she got attacked going to her car by two men, she left those two men on the pavement. Taekwondo is not just about kicks. We learned very effective throws/hip tosses to get people off us. I promise if someone from my dojo throws you to the floor, you will not be getting up. Cause you’re going to catch a kick to the face after that. Axe kicks, and stomps were taught to neutralize the attacker. If they can get back up and attack me again then I haven’t neutralized the threat……
This is the best of these ranking videos I've seen.
It uses the criteria I consider the best. How legit would fighting skills be of the average person after training 1 year at the average, typical school for each style.
Even though I train primarily BJJ, I would only rank it C+ only because I've discovered most schools no longer have something like the classic "Gracie Combatives" as part of their curriculum.
The school awarding me a blue belt required competency in these self defense skills as about 30% of the requirements for that belt. The rest was classic Gracie "rice and beans" BJJ, which is still mostly applicable for self-defense fighting. No pulling guard, flying cool-slick-whatever ninja moves.
My current school offers 2 classes a week focused on self-defense and fighting skills, often including someone putting on gloves and training with punches.
I've been at other schools that claim they teach self defense, but in practice they may teach a "self defense" technique every few weeks, and my opinion this is kind of lip service to it so they can put "self defense" on their marketing material. Sad.
the guy placed kickboxing and jujutsu in rank D below jeet kune do and pencak silat and placed karate and taekwondo in rank F, you can see that his knowledge of martial arts is very limited
Merci de la vidéo. Cela confirme l'importance des coups de têtes comme en Lethwei et au Sambo.
Took a self defense seminar with him at sbg Athens. Awesome seminar. I remember that illegal judo throw he thought. Love judo.
Good to see you after a long time! You are looking great and thank you for the wonderful video. Btw, would've been great if you guys talked about Chinese Sanda (Sanshou). But still great though!
It beat me in tkd
I can see why he ranked Karate low, and all those Mcdojos are to blame; but if you train honestly and give Shotokan its due, then its ability to put an opponent down with one well placed shot is something he forgets; since its not just punching but also elbows and knees, just like the May Thai guys use. Shotokan teaches you to get in fast, deal a powerful blow and get out as fast as you went in, seems an ideal way to deal with a mugger if you have to! By the way, I train with Shotokan Karate of America, Mr Ohshima's organization, and I would never want to try to take on any of his black belts!
I'm told Karate was made in Okinawa, inspired by other arts to protect/defend against the japanese invaders, it's come a long way/changed from it's original form, which had self defense as the priority and was harsher than the karate taught today.
@@thesnare100 you can find every type still taught today, it's like anything that's old and expansive and popular, there are 10,000 variations and it's up to you to do due diligence before you buy
My issue with that one strike completion idea is that, after training in Kyokushin, it often doesn't work that way.
@@thesnare100 I agree with the spirit of your comment; most karate is very removed from where it came from. Just FYI, the "defend against Japanese invaders" thing is a myth. Okinawa has/had other martial arts for military matters that included firearms and other weapons, not karate.
@@InGrindWeCrust2010 it's usually when you don't have weapons
Another thing which caught my attention was Paul talking about wrestler, who also emphasize boxing. This reminds me of Ramsey Dewey, who talked about learning both grappling and striking, I think Ramsey was saying the situation could change from a striking situation to a grappling situation, or a grappling situation to a striking situation. So the situation in a fight is fluid
Kickboxing most of the time allows knees.
I have around 17,000 clips of self defense fights. I have closely studied all of them. Using the knees is very common. It is also the single biggest failing technique in my entire collection with a 99.999% failure rate. I think I have maybe two examples of the successful use of knees, and in these cases the knees attack the side of the head from a third man (2-on-1 situations). But every self defense course teaches them.Why do knees almost entirely fail? First, most people do not have the hip flexor strength or hip extension to produce the necessary power. Second, good power requires that we go up on the toes as we extend the hips, but it is dangerous to go up on the toes in self defense situations. We always want to keep our hips low. This is very basic and very important. Overall, it is a big mistake to think of SD fighting as being in any way similar to sportsfighting and sparring. They are as different as meat and vegetables. If someone is in bent-over a position to be kneed, it makes much more sense to just push or drag him to the ground and then kick him. The use of clothes to drag and pull is a very important part of SD fighting and is a feature of perhaps more than 90% of all SD fights.
@@stmartinhk Very interesting. Where can I read more about this study?
@@Traps510 It is my own study. As i said, i have 17,000 clips of self defense fights that I have studied.
@stmartinhk OK. What else were you're findings? Any other interesting statistics that you discovered?
That's Dutch kickboxing
The Canadian your guest mentioned was probably Jean-Yves Thériault.
Season 3 of the championship needs a college/US-Folkstyle Wrestler
Preferably a "pure" 1 without much cross training for control
Btw, I realize this is very premature & maybe a little middle school
But season 3 could also have a recently-out US Marine or Soldier with no or little other martial arts experience aside from whatever combatives they were taught while serving
& 2 UA-cam Wrestlers: Georgio Poullas & Cayden Henschel
some legit analysis here, thank you sir for making this..
Kudo and sambo are the most complete. Striking+throws+submission
Sanda is close striking+throws
Love these ranking videos! Gotta gey my coffee and watch this in peace haha
Great conversation with an informed and articulate speaker. Very nice!! 💯 Please check out Ken Ryu Jujutsu - Traditional Japanese Martial Art. 🙏
A combat sambo expert who takes up Lethwei is probably the most dangerous person you can face on the streets.
31:00 "Karate is an F"
1:05:50"Wow Kudo should be an S"
Does he know? 😏🥋
I think it is less about the art and more about the training methodology
@@Diego-hm1wdYeah, that might be a valid reason.
Still is kind of ironic Sharper generalizes all karate schools while giving Kudo (base in kyokushin karate) such a high score.
Perfect example of "It's not the art but the practitioner who matters"
@@mxvrdahegaouwu7577 I 100% agree with you on this, it is always about the practitioner
@@mxvrdahegaouwu7577maybe a lack of knowledge
@@mxvrdahegaouwu7577probably a lack of knowledge of karate remember he said he’s done it for a year
I like these kinds of videos! They might be useful for people still choosing their martial art.
This is the best for him. It’s not for everyone. if you’re effective in one martial art than the other then stick to it.
It's kind of impossible to grade MAs because it all comes down to HOW they train. I studied Japanese jujitsu and judo at the Houston Budokan and it was a very traditional school. But we grappled a lot and we also would have to spar against someone boxing (with gloves) on while we could only use judo and jujitsu. So when you say "I went to a school for this or that and it's not physical enough"....that all depends where you're training.
I describe boxing like the myth of the blind kung fu master who's sense are heightened because he's blind. Because in boxing you can only use your hands you get a lot more sensitive to understanding timing, distance, speed, reaction, defense, strategy etc.
Ive wrestled for 3 years competed in boxing for 3 years and been doing muay thai for 1 year, and never been in a street fight honestly im still not sure if i can fight
Self defense situations are complex and dangerous legal-social situations. People who are predators and don't care less about other people have significant advantages. And they are careful about who they choose to attack. Most self defense situations involve UNFAIRNESS - big on small, young on old, multiple on one, aggressive on retiring, ambushes and sucker punches. If I go to a dojo and watch people train for "self defense" scenarios, the first question I ask myself is "where is the unfairness here?" bcs unfairness is normal in SD situations. If our training does not always include at least the potential for unfairness (A fights B n the car park in a "fair fight" but when A starts to win, B's friend C jumps in) then we are in the world of "sparring" and, dare I say it, LARPing - which gives people a false idea of how these things usually play out. Unfairly. People who are interested in the topic of self defense can benefit from understanding that self defense situations start from legal-social situations in certain environments and that it is these conditions that drive technique and strategy slections. For example, we often see in road rage situations that one guy will get out of this car and stand in the door of this car. He thinks he is safe and protected, but in fact this is one of the word place you can stand. You can't move, escape, generate power. Bad. Never stand in the door of your car. And related to that, if you get out of your car, move over to the sidewalk. do not fight next to traffic, unless you want to go to prison for an accidental homicide,. Anyway, the truth is out there in fight videos on the internet. We need to study them to understand SD. Just armchair speculation is not worth much,
It sounds like you are smart enough to get out of a fight or avoid places where fights are likely to happen. That is the best defense. If it does happen I'm am sure you can handle yourself
Sounds like you can fight.
You don’t spar? If so you should have an understanding if you can or not. Also most people dont have a clue what they’re doing so if you spar against people that do you have a massive advantage
U can bro u got it
Hey, why is none of the Martial Arts UA-camr make a tier list about "best martial arts for recreational exercise" (considering stuff like how well it trains the body, injury risk, easy to do when older etc) or "best martial arts for kids" (considering traini g mobility, building character etc) since those are the majority of people going to the dojo/training hall.
How many really train for self defense??
Judo
Oh gosh, I love this. Definitely should be a video topic for the future.
Could you do a video on the best martial art for senior citizens for self defense? Thanks!
380 acp
Irish stick fighting because as a senior cit, you can carry a cane and the art is tested in situations you might encounter in the streets.
CZ 75 Shadowboxing
Kali/Arnis for using your cane as a weapon.
gracie jiu-jitsu is already separate from brasilian jiu-jitsu? Lol.
As a russian I must say systema is a scam. I guess some competent trainers under systema umbrella filled it with some actual useful moves, but in its original vbersion it was bullshido.
And somehow systema is more famous that sambo and combat sambo in the west? I mean those are legit real martial arts, instead of "top secret KGB military deadly martial style".
Th confusion comes from the fact that when sambo started to be taught in the russian army, it was referred to as "the system" by a lot of officials.
Great advice on using the clinch in a streetfight. A friend of mine had to learn the hard way with a blade in his gut.
Luckily, he survived.
I like what Active Self Protection says.. "The eyes are the windows to the soul, and the hands are the windows to intent."
Training to monitor/feel the belt line for weapons. Learning to stop the draw is very important. 👊
Bruh cant believe he put kickboxing in d tier
He is talking about old school kickboxing . And it kinda sucked .
I think he means the body and above kickboxing not k1/glory/Dutch where they have low kicks.
I don't understand something... why are people saying that judo doesn't have a ground? I practice judo and I even get to participate in BJJ tournaments. Do your judo schools only focus in the score system of competition?
Would love to see what you think of/ where you rank hapkido-especially with your aikido background. I'll begin my studies of it starting next week, but I'm aware it has a...mostly questionable reputation in the martial arts world, at best
well you wristlock into literal somersaults in the air which kinda beats aikido tbh
I had a hapkido 9th degree black belt tell me explicitly that hapkido was not practical for selfdefense.
I think hapkido is one that has a ton of variation. There are the no-BS varieties similar to Yoshinkan aikido that were used by vets, as well as the type that are like a bad aikido class combined with a bad tkd class.
so much fun and informative video.
Just drop in to say BJJ + Catch + Judo + Kickbox + muscle mass + strength and conditioning + 12 mile ruck + 8 meal a day = unstoppable + immovable.
So just four seperate martial arts plus extensive strength training. is that all?😁
@@grayscarab5784 gun disable + knife disable+ roadwork+ more .
@@grayscarab5784 + more offense+ defense+ train 12 hours a day Monday through Sunday no break for the next 10 years.
@@grayscarab5784 + train 12 hour a day + roadwork
@@grayscarab5784 he forgot the full-body future armor to protect against bullets and blades
I think you should have split karate into two differents categories, kyokushin and traditionnal styles. Kyokushin style (full contact) Karate is definately on par with lethwei or muay thai, and has nothing to do with traditionnal style such as shotokan or else (completely different training, conditionning and rules). Just go watch kyokushin competitions and see how brutal it is, and they get these rapid knock out even without being allowed to punch to the head, since they fight bare knuckles the amount of damages would be too important and would cause permanent injuries. Andy Hug, Semmy Schilt, George St Pierre, Bas Rutten to name a few were kyokushin practionners.
Maybe as full-contact vs traditional. FC = KKS, Enshin, Ashihara and a few other.
1:08:20 love the ninjutsu LOL eye roll. very common attitude. I was very curious about ninjas like every other kid i knew and I had an opportunity to train Bujinkan Taijutsu(ninjutsu) back in 94-96 for about 18 months. we followed Matsaaki Hatsumi's teachings and read his books. I learned some fun stuff including history, lore and practical applications of the Bujinkan style. there is so much more than what american movies and 80's culture romanticized about it.
Awesome video!
It might be cool if you added Sumo as one of the options next time you go through this tier list. I'd be interested to see what people think of it.
It has a few practical techniques, not enough to learn the whole sport.
Basic concepts of judo, boxing, wrestling, Muay Thai pretty good fighter that would want to mess with
Muay Thai & Judo is S tier combo. If you wanted to add any specialization or emphasis, then add BJJ.
Nothing is going to be better than these two or three.
Muay Thai is a stand up, highly pressure tested, art, that doesn't have the limitation of boxing, karate, taekwondo, etc. It's full contact, with punches, knees, kicks, and elbows.
Not only that, but it a striking art that also deals with clinches and sweeps - Which pairs extremely well with the clinching and upper body grips and throws of Judo.
Judo as a grappling art emphasizes upper body control and throws and sweeps, which is superior to lower body takedowns in a self defense context. It also has the same dominance and pin mentally as wrestling, but also deals with submissions and escapes, making it superior to wrestling for self defense, and while the submission game will not be S tier(thats BJJ), it gives you more than enough knowledge and ability for 99% of situations on the ground in self defense.
If one wanted to add a specialization and emphasis, BJJ would be the icing on the cake to these two, to really hone ones submission ability, ground control and dominance, as well as ability to sweep and work from an inferior position. To be able to fight and recover from off ones back.
Last point that makes a grappling emphasis superior for self defense, is its ability to modulate intensity and force, to a given altercation.
If we are talking about a truly life or death situation, then you will need a high level of force escalation like a weapon. Namely a gun.
In that situation, having superior grappling skills, is the only skillset that will increase weapon retention.
In none life threatening situations, being able to impose control with minimal damage (grappling) will also allow you to survive the coming legal battle - the goal is to return home safely, not rot in a prison cell, because you knocked a guy out, and he hit his head on the ground and died.
Boxing and Wrestling is right there.
From personal experience, I don't think you can underestimate the efficacy of low kicks in any style. Boxers unaccustomed to low kicks will at worst lose their base/mobility and at best be distracted. Conversely, many styles do not punch to the face like boxing and that works in reverse.
There's no such thing as "Japanese Jujutsu" in the same way we talk about "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu". It's not a unified entity. Instead, there are several schools (lineages/styles) of traditional Jujutsu with samurai origins. For example, Kodokan Judo, which influenced Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ), is actually a combination of different Jujutsu styles. The main schools that contributed to Kodokan techniques include Tenshin Shinyō-ryū Jujutsu, Kito-ryū Jujutsu, and Yagyu Shingan-ryū Jujutsu. However, there are other traditional Jujutsu styles that Jigoro Kano trained in and integrated into Kodokan.
Similarly, Aikido itself emerged from a traditional school with samurai origin known as Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu. If you compare these precursor styles, you'll find them quite similar. However, Kano refined and improved the techniques, while Ueshiba degraded the techniques from Daito-ryu, resulting in something more limited and less rigorously tested. 🤣
If you're referring to literal Ninjutsu, it shouldn't even be on this list because Ninjutsu isn't a martial art. The Bujinkan, the largest organization claiming to teach Ninjutsu, is essentially a compilation of 9 traditional Jujutsu styles or variations like Koppojutsu, Dakentaijutsu, etc. (while there are differences between these styles and those that influenced Judo and Aikido, they may not be immediately apparent to outsiders), taught both mixed and separately. However, some of these styles have questionable lineage, particularly the three claiming ninja origins. When they attempt to adapt techniques for modern contexts, it essentially becomes a degraded version, much like what Aikido did with the original Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu form.
Nevertheless, if you mention "Ninjutsu" in reference to Bujinkan or Genbukan, it should still rank higher than Aikido simply because they are essentially Jujutsu schools with the original form preserved (excluding unconventional and questionable modern adaptations), whereas Aikido represents a degradation of the original Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu form, with a possible exception for Shodokan Aikido, which incorporates real-time pressure testing.
Thanks mate, it's a bless to find some culture sometime about what jujutsu is, instead of the usual bla bla and ignorant misconceptions. I would like to add, also partially related to jujutsu, that most of the martial arts were born to fight armed, and somehow try to survive once disarmed, in the end what most people nowday call martial arts were mostly simple sports or violent game for the last 2000 years(look boxe and wrestling in europe and sumo in japan). In the end if someone really want to learn how to defend himself he simply need to learn one style and how to apply it, or choose one concelable weapon and to ise it, stop.
You sir, Nailed it!
Thanks! I guess I may have sounded like those nerd dudes who starts speaking "Actually..." like the memes, but I found it would worth to point those things out anyway. 😂
@@michaelcarvalho4834 nerd interjections are only rude in person when talking over somebody, otherwise it's just sharing knowledge
I enjoyed the read
The point is that if you sign up to a school that says "JiuJitsu" at the door and it isn't BJJ, you're probably not gonna learn much fighting.
The ppl doing "Japanese JiuJitsu" at my uni are nerds that constantly bow and never spar.
Automatic like for keeping up with the times with Lethwei and Kudo Karate.
Working 15 years in public transportation security, I can honestly say that using Wing Chun defense in a train while 2 heavy set eastern european trying to put my lights out simultaneously on a subway train was nullified,(and who both eventually ran away), and Aikido nagawaza arm throw and arm lock on the ground subdued a shirtless drug induced individual on the platform, and this then became my "go to technique" - especially when the assailant(s) can only squirm on the ground like a fish, and biting punching,spitting, and kicking doesn't do anything to solid concrete. Multiple attackers is where boxing and escrima (defense stick) can be employed. A fellow Patrol Guard from France who was a semi professional kickboxer with a very small frame had the nickname "Van Dam" and the patrol boots surprised many unsuspecting aggressors, so it's about timing, application and intention - and you will be able to defend yourself with: ALL OF THE ABOVE listed in this video.
Highly depends on the WC school to be honest. Some don't do any sparring or even practice drills at a realistic speed/ force.
Hey really nice video i just wanted to ask your opinion,i was talking with my friends about mma vs boxing for self defence and my friend was saying that mma is better because it has a lot more options as opposed to boxing which is a lot more limited but i was thinking if you take a normal person betwen 25-40 years old that does 9-5 work and trains 2x to 3x per week(1 hour sessions ) for a year you would be much better at boxing than in mma making it kind of more effective for self defense? Because i was at couple sessions in mma gym where we did 30 min grappling and 30 striking and i kind of felt like i didnt learn much?Maybe i need to give it more time anyway thanks for answer
I'm of the same opinion. Boxing is the best bang for your buck, the one that will make you into a competent fighter fastest. I've been training boxing for 2 year, twice a week. The gym where I box is actually a MMA gym that offers a couple of boxing sessions a week. Some of the MMA guys are absolute beasts who could destroy me in any specialized fighting discipline, including boxing, but they basically live at the gym. Once in a while I've light-sparred relative beginner MMA who rarely come to boxing class. Their boxing is really shitty.
I see it like this: defensively, choosing MMA makes sense because you have a lot of options and you won't be completely lost in any aspect of the fight. The strength of boxing is that you'll get really good at what you do, and what you do just might mean knocking out multiple opponents in one shot each. It's high risk, high reward.
The first thing a self defense beginner needs to learn is basic wrestling and how to execute and thwart body locks, single legs, double legs, and head controls both bcs standing grappling is very very common in self defense fights and bcs the worst thing that can happen to you in a fight is that you get picked up and body slammed onto concrete. As for boxing, it has great value bcs it teaches you how to ecnoomically generate hitting power. Just make sure that you practise hitting from cover guards (chin down, shoulders up) bcs a blow to the face/head will finish things and learn to throw tight, targetted punches at close quarters (not time-wasting looping shots). Also note that you will be fighting without gloves, so learn to also makes good use of your big knuckles to the face and to hit USING THE INSIDE OF YOUR FIST against head targets, in particular for high-value targets such as behind the ear or the side of the head. For these, keep your elbow pointed down as you hit. Also, train to have a fist that closes properly so that you do not break it and strong wrists. Get a block of piece of foam, say 5 inches by 5 inches, and practise squeezing it to make a fist. Involve all of your fingers. Make sure the fingers also supprt each other as you squeeze. This is a great exercise.
Sounds like a bad gym
Top👊🏼, a very good talk👏🏼
We need to have a pair of twins who have never done martial arts, and make they take muy thai and karate for a year, and have them spare MMA style at the end.
I'd love that
Excellent, logical take on knife defence
28:00 Sensei Seth and Jesse Enkamp would like to have a word 🤣
I have had a LOT of success using Karate, but I also lucked out with my sensei, and the substyle they taught being combat-focused rather than sport focused...
Thank you bro
Seth and Jesse have both addressed that “karate” is overall very poor for self defense because most places don’t teach it very well.
It’s sad because if you look the Kata and study what the original applications were meant to be, Karate should be VERY effective for self defense. Unfortunately most Karate schools today don’t teach applications and many that do teach applications are terrible applications and don’t do any pressure testing of any kind.
Thankfully there’s a small but growing movement of practical Karate so hopefully this may change in a decade or two
@@alexanderren1097 indeed so. by pure happenstance My sensei was one that was obsessed with applicability and warring-states-period Karate/Jiu-jitsu, and also required all students (even little ones) to spar every class in order to rank passed green belt (weeding out the tryouts), and who'd been taught by an american-born japanese man who; in order to reconnect with his heritage, but also inspired by the then-new-Kung Fu Icon Bruce Lee; traveled back to japan and learned karate at a 'revivalist' school, trying to reconstruct and teach non-ritual, actual combat as it was done by the Samurai... then brought that back to (Wisconsin? IDK, we were in AZ at the time...)
It's fascinating, and wild, while researching, to see how radically the Japanese Martial Arts changed after Japan was unified, and the samurai all but stopped fighting: only a small portion participated in policing, with most considering fighting non-samurai to be beneath them (and they didn't really know how to fight without killing).
A lot of folk forget how many whole generations of Samurai never set foot on a battlefield, and before the Caste was wholly dissolved, the last generation or two didn't even fight duals to the death, which were outlawed by then, (though even those had become so ritualized by then as to be basically unrelated to actual combat. some even argued that modern kendo is more combative than some of the last duals were).
Interestingly, TKD has a traditional, combat-oriented form as well, which is hardly recognizable as TKD at all... it's a pretty common phenomenon with the older styles, really.
hey rokas, I was wondering if you could make one of your tier list videos but classify the martial arts according to danger for the practitioner. Just an idea 😅
I still say we need to separate karate into 2 categories at least, Japanese karate, and Okinawan karate. A Japanese karate *usually doesn't have close fighting, grappling, throws, etc. a traditional Okinawan karate, kept all of that (for the most part)
It's in the katas. Kyokushin and its derivatives ashihara and enshin have more attention for it than shotokan etc
Except this guy did 3 legit kinds of Okinawan karate, and it sounds like they trained just like any WKF school.
@@InGrindWeCrust2010 He probably trained in dojos focused on semi-contact fighting, but generally these three styles focus a lot on contact fighting.
28:12 - 31:12 Then how come my "Martial Arts in Street Fighting" playlist has news videos that there are Karate fighters who have successfully fend off their attacker in the street??
Why is HEMA never in this type of videos?
It would be interesting to see what people from other martial arts are thinking about our art.
HEMA is very interesting and realistic, and has many things in common with the most realistic Asian martial arts
Bcs you can't run around with a sword.
Muay thai/boxing and judo/wrestling is the best for me
It's not about the best martial arts, it's about who is the best fighter.
Maybe but again maybe not
Ive trained in a mix of taekwondo and mma with some marks of Muay Thai and I’ve been in around 10 street fights. Kicks have never failed me as if a person is expecting to have a fist fight and you train and are fast with hook, side, back, or roundhouse kicks you cant see my leg. Kicks never fail.
Excellent 👏
One of the best self defense things you would be surprised to learn is melee fighting games. It teaches you tactics, when and where to engage and when and where to run. How to engage and disengage against 1v1 and group situation is critical. You can be the best 1-1 fighter but if you are bad at when and how to engage you will get overwhelmed.
this guy acts like the training method is synonymous with the arts themselves. Hence such a dismissive attitude.
Great video and Paul was great! Coming from Cuba 🇨🇺 the only thing I regret is not training boxing, judo or wrestling there! Instead I drank the kool aid of the taekwondo and aikido, what a waste of an opportunity. Now doing Judo, BJJ and Muay Thai in USA 🇺🇸!!!
Rokas i have a good idea for a teir list. Self defense for over 40 year olds and the disabled. Always learn what is illegal in the Sport of Fighting. It's all good in the street if you can convince the Judge.
do not tempt me ...
45, disabled... ex forces/security, judo blackbelt.
Honestly i've recently started incorporating my walking stick into my daily training (which i have to do to move well).
Snub-nosed 38 special, steel frame...plus p loads....
@@markupton1417 yeh im english.. a blunt spoon modification might get me trouble ;) It has to be something that can very obviously be not done for being a weapon.
like structural reinforcement - or a torch (flash light to the yanks).
@@markupton1417 not every country has access to guns for lawful carry. UA-cam goes out into the world not just North America.
@@sesimie I know...just sharing how I do it.
Good video with honest insight.👍Interesting comment about Japanese Ju-Jitsu not pressure testing and that you can go to a class and not break a sweat.
The Japanese based Ju- Jitsu that I took for many years would. Have you fighting everyday and you would come out of there feeling like a wet paper towel. The physical workrounds were harder than any football camp.
Personally I prefer japanese jujutsu over bjj becouse of the standing aspects in jujutsu where in bjj you only do ground work
I tend to agree with you, BJJ is great for when the fight goes to the ground but Jujutsu is better at keeping you on your feet.
JJJ has zero sparring basically.
@@pinksupremacy6076 i do not know where that misconception comes from but as a practitioner of japanese jujutsu i can say qe do spar every lesson its mostly grapling but we do spar
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 with the purpose of what? Pinning?
That’s not true. Most BJJ teach basic wrestling and Judo
Something I rarely see demontrated against an experienced opponent in striking, kickng,elbows and grappling but with the additional skill of "Sticking-hands" (someone like Erik Paulson). How would the skilled striker do against another striker whose main game is to not let you have control of your hands and feet after initial contact is made?
I would love to do boxing but the brain trauma you develop overtime with sparring whether light or hard is a throw off for me :(
I understand what you are saying about the brain trauma however I have never been in a fight were some guy was not trying to hit me in the head. yeah gotta have an answer for it..
@@Cuffsmaster the problem is, most of the average joes (not cops, soldiers, etc) won't even see the day where they will be involved in a real fight, but you risk getting brain damage preparing for something that you'll less likely to encounter in a world that has a law system. So instead of risking brain damage, I'd learn grappling arts like judo or sambo. Grappling is superior than striking anyway.
@@capricola8682grappling and striking are 2 dimensions that complement eachother. Neither one is superior because it all depends on the situation which one is suitable to use, or both.
@@Cuffsmaster taking brain damage to one day maybe avoid brain damage seems like an awful bargain
one can avoid nearly all fights simply by being armed and not congregating with stupid people
Legitimate Krav maga organisations like IKMF, KMW, and KMG are notoriously stingy about coaching badges, grading and giving out belts. Going straight to the poor quality control in the US has become a bit of a lazy trope on this topic. How would Paul like if someone were to rank "police professionalism" based on the what they know about standards in Haiti or New Delhi?
At 42:00- I believe he's talking about a Seoi Nage- the shoulder throw.
If he regularly found himself into fist fights then he was a very poor undercover cop.
How do know that?
@@petealmeida2071 outside action thrillers undercover cops are supposed to not draw negative attention, get intel and stay out of harm's way.
Then heavily armed SWAT teams do the heavy lifting.
So this guy is not supposed to know a lot about unarmed fighting in the line of duty. Unless he got caught flat footed, without access to colleagues or weapons to help him and had to fist fight his way out of a situation..... aka he messed up big time.
Perhaps he did a lot of martial arts training in his free time or he did other work that caused him to end up in lots of unarmed combat (bouncing, security, crowd control, booking officer etc).
Yet the channel of course sells it like him being an undercover cop somehow gives him expertise or experience in hand to hand combat and we now should listen to his opinion on what martial arts work best for da street.
Who's to say that was during him being undercover?
@@imperialtrooper927 than why mention him being undercover??
Best martial arts ranked by accountant.
@@Reflectionmaterial Background check, would you hire an accountant with no background in the field at all?