Pi Zero W External Antenna Mod | Supercharge Wifi

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • MalDuino! Learn More: malduino.com
    Any links I could find had very low stock, so you'll need to do some searching to find what you'll need which is... a ufl smd connector, ufl cable, antenna (2.4ghz) and of course a pi zero w!
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  • @tetsujin_144
    @tetsujin_144 7 років тому +22

    That's cool, I had no idea the Zero W had a footprint for that connector. I was expecting something much more hackish as a result.

  •  6 років тому +5

    this definitely makes sense if the RPi is in metal enclosure as I plan to do. Thanks for the tips

  • @der_pinguin44
    @der_pinguin44 5 років тому +1

    *Screws up on camera*
    "Hey, yeah, it'll be alright..."
    I like your attitude. Subbed.

  • @ali.shah.repository
    @ali.shah.repository 7 років тому +5

    Excellent work. Interesting video and great filmmaking. You had me at that transition at 0:14. Subbed!

  • @stylesoftware
    @stylesoftware 8 років тому +4

    I recommend using a 'fine tip', very common in smallish/average pcb work. Your 'monster sized' tip is frying near by planets. That girth will increase the chances of sucking up your components, a fine tip point has much less thermal reach outside the solder point area.
    Like you, I've come across the over zoom problem, it's actually impossible to tell depth, it feels like you're swinging around a large weight on a spring.. I trashed all my magnifying glass solder stations and ended up with +1.5 or +2 set of plastic glasses from the Dollar store. They work great, excellent magnification without loss of depth perception. - Give it a shot.

    • @csimon
      @csimon 7 років тому +1

      I've been trying to figure out what is considered as a fine tip soldering iron. Could you post a link to one?

  • @syfr
    @syfr 4 роки тому +6

    Those antennas are HALF an antenna (verticals). If you installed them so they had a ground plane to work against you'd see a significant difference

  • @samuelgonzalez7783
    @samuelgonzalez7783 6 років тому +2

    Nice, now if I want to put this in a metal case I can have the antenna outside and still have a good signal.

  • @jensschroder8214
    @jensschroder8214 3 роки тому +1

    Dry solder joins! You need flux!
    Cover the small resistor in flux, then de-solder it and wipe it from the iron.
    may by you can use it once more.
    Cover the connector in flux and solder it.
    After than clean everything with IPA 99% alcohol.
    A very fine tip dont transfer heat good, but a good one is a key too.

  • @Wren6991
    @Wren6991 8 років тому +2

    Dude, when you SMD solder, TWEEZERS. It'll help with components getting moved around by the iron and whatnot.
    Tweezers in one hand, soldering iron in your other hand, solder in your third hand and use your fourth to hold the board. Easy as 1 2 3 4

    • @MrMuzza008
      @MrMuzza008 7 років тому

      And use some rosin soldering flux paste, it really helps the solder flow giving you nice clean solder joints.

    • @spades898
      @spades898 6 років тому

      his soldering iron is way too hot anyway, looks like 400 C to me. Should be around 275-320 C

  • @gary5831
    @gary5831 7 років тому +25

    Antenna are not powerful or less powerful. Antenna have gain and the gain will vary based on antenna design. SO your showing not how much power an antenna has but the relative gain of each antenna.

  • @phizicks
    @phizicks 7 років тому +1

    You should have used a fine tip soldering iron. I've worked in electronics industry for many years and found easy ways to work on surface mounts like this. Also, a pcb cleaner wouldn't hurt, it'll clean any flux and dirty stuff making it clear to show any accidental shorts.

  • @ukaszwaligorski2244
    @ukaszwaligorski2244 8 років тому

    Thank you for the very descriptive and to the point video

  • @remocrapstuff5414
    @remocrapstuff5414 8 років тому +33

    I have a idea........ you could make a mini wifi pineapple with the nodeMCU or this raspberry to hack wifis with a android phone etc......would be cool!

  • @deangreenhough3479
    @deangreenhough3479 7 років тому

    Clear video, well explained. You have another subscriber 👍 thank you for sharing

  • @104d_3rr0r_vince
    @104d_3rr0r_vince 7 років тому

    Small antennas between 2-9 have no real gain although that number refers to receive rate.

  • @darkazer451
    @darkazer451 8 років тому +11

    cool videa , maybe you can do your next one on PoisonTap since you have a pi0 now?

  • @user-wp8gn4zw8d
    @user-wp8gn4zw8d 5 років тому +1

    lol that picture of crypto from DAH was probably my background at the same time this video came out

  • @briceviolette8415
    @briceviolette8415 7 років тому +3

    is it possible to have the internal antenna and the socket for the external antenna at the same time by just removing the in line jumper resistor and soldering both points

  • @jonasrid1
    @jonasrid1 8 років тому

    Can't wait to get my malduino.

  • @BlueeBubble
    @BlueeBubble Рік тому

    So wait we don't need the resistor? Can we just use solder to connect the joints? 🤔

  • @firstname5747
    @firstname5747 4 роки тому

    measured the value of resistor right on PCB....genius....

  • @SibaNL
    @SibaNL 6 років тому +25

    Use some flux and clean it with alcohol.
    Those solder-joints look disgusting.

    • @TankEpidemic
      @TankEpidemic 4 роки тому +1

      Suprised you can see those joints from up on your high horse.

  • @shivamtaras1720
    @shivamtaras1720 6 років тому +1

    I got panda pau06 wifi adapter it has 2dbi antenna, i attached 9dbi antenna to it i don't know whether that antenna is working or not, can any one tell me how to check that?

  • @Throneos
    @Throneos 5 років тому +1

    Put a smartphone camera on a box and with 8x digital zoom you got yourself a janky but workable smd recording and working setup

  • @sipa2123
    @sipa2123 8 років тому +12

    +3 dBm is doubling the received power. so change from -90dBm to -88dBm is ~60% increase, and -35dBm -> -23dBm is ~15x improvement.
    The external antenna thing can be pretty good indeed, especially if you use an external directional antenna.
    Could you test the case where you have ext-ant connector in parallel with the PCB-antenna so that both are connected at the same time, can it be just plugged in if need?

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  8 років тому +8

      Thanks for explaining the numbers, in hindsight I should've looked that up before making the video. I'll give your idea a go and report back when I have an update.

    • @dmackle3849
      @dmackle3849 3 роки тому

      I think the jumper connects only one route at any time because having both connected creates multi-path problems and/or upsets impedance matching.

  • @frien_d
    @frien_d 2 місяці тому

    but is it a resistor? are we sure it isn't a jumpwir... it was a jumpwire. It think it's there exactly for the purpose of being removed if an external antenna is needed.

  • @weirdscix
    @weirdscix 8 років тому +2

    Would you be able to do something similar with the NodeMCU Wifi development board you featured in an earlier video?

  • @remocrapstuff5414
    @remocrapstuff5414 8 років тому +1

    Yayyyyyy new videoooooo!!!!!good job!!!!!

  • @mlgmanmlg938
    @mlgmanmlg938 8 років тому

    Will you make a video about Poison Tab?
    Awesome Video, keep up the great work!

  • @Zanzubaa
    @Zanzubaa 4 роки тому

    I did this by naked eye and with larger solder iron tip. It was a mother loving nightmare. I would not attempt this operation again without the proper equipment. That resistor he removes is about the size of 2 grains of sand.

  • @timondegroot8307
    @timondegroot8307 8 років тому +1

    Great video! Could you compare the signal strength to a modern smartphone, wonder how the pi stacks up against it.

  • @An0n1m0us30
    @An0n1m0us30 10 місяців тому

    Can we just add a slide button there and switch between antenas?

  • @fleshTH
    @fleshTH 7 років тому

    Well, I recently came into possession of an RC boat that's, not great. It uses 433MHz RF, but the controller board is not great. I think the relays are going bad. So I thought i'd throw in a PI Zero w and control it with wifi and add in a pi cam, it might be cool! I want to be sure though that the wifi range would be good enough.

  • @WickdPerfekT
    @WickdPerfekT 6 років тому +11

    "more powerful antenna" hmm.

  • @itayblasbalg4504
    @itayblasbalg4504 Рік тому

    I have wifi amplifier
    Do you have any experience with amplifiers?
    Will it cause any damage?

  • @doug6717
    @doug6717 5 років тому

    2 things.
    A I thought the pi zero w had dual band wifi, thus why did you only choose 2.4Ghz antenna? Please explain this one.
    B You were so close to transmitter during test that any measurable gain from your antenna would be almost nullified.

  • @EnzoM
    @EnzoM 5 років тому +1

    keep in mind a 2dBm gain is similar to 2x the signal...

    • @cLxJaggy
      @cLxJaggy 4 роки тому

      +2dB = x1.585 more power signal : (P=10^(G/10))

    • @EnzoM
      @EnzoM 4 роки тому

      @@cLxJaggy thx

  • @maximada2003
    @maximada2003 8 років тому

    i love this channel

  • @GotSkillsForaNoob
    @GotSkillsForaNoob 3 роки тому

    I’m looking to do this on a pi zero W boosting a Wi-Fi signal not wired like shown but I’m struggling to find a tutorial that is showing this specifically is this possible with routerypi

  • @abisheknagarajan87
    @abisheknagarajan87 8 років тому +6

    Yo, you forgot to put the Malduino link in the description

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  8 років тому +4

      Ah, thanks for the heads up.

  • @swapnilbsonu
    @swapnilbsonu 3 роки тому

    sir
    can you please tell me how much area we are able to increase by using this antenna ?

  • @jessev9686
    @jessev9686 7 років тому

    what was the recommended equipment? a heat table or something? going to do a portable headless (using my android phone as a monitor/keyboard/internet) pi0w build starting at the end of next month and want to have my ducks in a row.
    also, can you do a test with bluetooth please? I think bluetooth will use the same antenna as it works over the same wavelengths and the chip does both, but i'd like to check. the case I have is metal so I will need the external antenna to work for both wifi and bluetooth.

  • @ProDigit80
    @ProDigit80 5 років тому

    What if you would have soldered a large blob of solder on all 3 pins? would you be able to use external, and internal antenna?

  • @couturepeter
    @couturepeter 6 років тому

    I've heard the direction the internal antenna is facing matters. Was that something you replicated in this testing?

  • @LiveOverflow
    @LiveOverflow 8 років тому

    FYI, malduino is not badusb.

  • @swiftb0y298
    @swiftb0y298 8 років тому

    Nice Video, but Coups you do a follow up on the raspi lan turtle video? Something like using the usbplug for data and using it as an Ethernet adapter or allow it to use PoE. Thanks

  • @tinkmarshino
    @tinkmarshino 6 років тому +1

    what about your standing wave ratio?

  • @user93237
    @user93237 5 років тому

    Simply put some additional solder on the component for desoldering it.

    • @socrates_the_great6209
      @socrates_the_great6209 5 років тому

      Before?

    • @user93237
      @user93237 5 років тому +1

      @@socrates_the_great6209 Put as much solder on it such that the tip of the solder iron reaches both sides via the additional solder.

  • @MrSlartybartfast42
    @MrSlartybartfast42 8 років тому

    I have a number of questions.
    Ok you have 4 networks ... what was the distance between each network and the Pi0w?
    Did each network use the same equipment? (i.e. the same router (with the same TX/RX power))
    What TX/RX channels were the networks on and could there have been any interference from other networks?
    Were the external antennae positioned in the same orientation as the Pi0w?
    How many times did you run the 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan' command?
    How long were the external antennae? (For a 2.4 GHz signal the ideal antenna length is 125 mm)

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  8 років тому

      The test wasn't scientific, just on various networks I picked up in my area to get a feel for how beneficial having a bigger antenna was.

  • @xathridtech727
    @xathridtech727 2 роки тому

    should I do this if it's in an Altoids can

  • @lubibubi6380
    @lubibubi6380 4 роки тому

    Where are the Parts in the ddescription i need to do this!!!

  • @janklas7079
    @janklas7079 Рік тому

    This is especially usefull if you want to build the pi into a metal box. Otherwise, I would not bother.

  • @misaalanshori
    @misaalanshori 3 роки тому

    man, i wish they made an updated Pi zero with better specs...

  • @OthmanAlikhan
    @OthmanAlikhan 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video =)

  • @lawaver
    @lawaver 5 років тому

    Hi, great video and like you, im crap at soldering. Is it possible to cut off the plug on the end of the antenna and solder the antenna cable directly to the board rather than trying to solder on the fiddly little socket??

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  5 років тому +2

      I guarantee you that would make things more difficult to solder, the connection wouldn't be that great and it would break off real easy. The socket is worth it!

  • @aaronrussell828
    @aaronrussell828 5 років тому

    Hello, love your videos but I have a question. I have a couple esp8266s and want to know something, from most videos would I be able to solder an antenna directly to the built in one? And is there any better way than that

  • @Coldsteak
    @Coldsteak 4 роки тому

    I have a project that involves putting the pi in something that blocks the wifi, with an antenna, I can lead the antenna out of it's anti-RF coffin

  • @maximada2003
    @maximada2003 8 років тому

    how about a really cheap wifiphisher drop box to harvest wifi keys? will need 2 antennas though!

  • @niravpatel6080
    @niravpatel6080 6 років тому

    i have short to antenna any problem in my BLE DATA
    and BLE AND WIFI Antenna both work in one antenna

  • @zone2oo0
    @zone2oo0 8 років тому +6

    that soldering LOL

  • @elmariachi5133
    @elmariachi5133 5 років тому

    You really have to solder that connection diagonally? They should have made crossing that orthogonal, or even better: simply added a jumper there.

  • @systemofapwne
    @systemofapwne 5 років тому

    Modded mine too. Due to the tiny size, it was very tricky and I could not be sure, if the bridge-wire (I also wasted my 0 Ohm resistor...) was properly connected. So I had a few resolder -> reboot -> check-wifi -> repeat moments. In the end, I had decent wifi quality.

  • @zbeekerm
    @zbeekerm 5 років тому

    No links to materials in the description :-(

  • @fluffyfloof9267
    @fluffyfloof9267 7 років тому

    There's also …uhm, what's the proper / technical term?… radiation pattern …direction(-ality) …something something, mumble …the antenna design. The zero W's internal antenna, according to my laymen's understanding of RF voodoo, doesn't seem to be omni-directional, like the modded external ones. That internal one's signal strength might depend on the mounting position / orientation of the whole Pi. An external antenna should be far more flexible. Thank you, i didn't know that the Pi zero W already has provisions for this kind of mod.

  • @minege02
    @minege02 8 років тому +1

    Nice video !

  • @BryantWhite86
    @BryantWhite86 7 років тому

    What is this stuff called? Because I love this stuff and would want to work on things like this. (I have seen people modify drones with this so they can "hack" other drones) I don't know what to search up and what the possibilities are for this stuff.

  • @pandox_2420
    @pandox_2420 8 років тому

    Hee Seytonic im new to this but could you setup a kit of a few pi zero's and add ons i wil need a sort of starter kit

  • @derFleder
    @derFleder 4 роки тому

    Thank you. Is there a way to do this mod with the RPi 3B+, too?

  • @MikeRota
    @MikeRota 7 років тому

    Does anyone know where I can buy a case for my Pi Zero W that allows for a monitor?

    • @tetsujin_144
      @tetsujin_144 7 років тому

      What do you mean by "allows for a monitor"? Like something that doesn't cover up the HDMI port?

    • @MikeRota
      @MikeRota 7 років тому +1

      I was corrected, I assumed the ribbon cable connector on the W allowed you to connect a ribbon cable from a monitor. But I was told the ribbon cable connector; while the same type of connection, wouldn't work for a screen. It's only for the camera.

  • @eleanorhathaway927
    @eleanorhathaway927 8 років тому

    Does the network adaptor on the pi zero w support monitor mode or will you need a USB adaptor?

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  8 років тому +1

      I may have a video on that coming soon.

    • @br0k3nilluzion
      @br0k3nilluzion 8 років тому +1

      that would be an awesome video

  • @orionmyers9546
    @orionmyers9546 7 років тому

    What's a ufl connecter
    Dose it stand for ultra f##king long?

  • @abpccpba
    @abpccpba 2 роки тому

    When you have some free time use it to work on your soldering skills.

  • @-Apostolos
    @-Apostolos 8 років тому +1

    Please do this for the Nodemcu! :)

    • @daeusk
      @daeusk 8 років тому

      Coto 1337

  • @lilstu60
    @lilstu60 8 років тому

    Can this wifi support packet inject, I think everyone was afraid to ask

    • @cansofcoke
      @cansofcoke 5 років тому

      still the same chipset, so I'd say no.

    • @rp479
      @rp479 5 років тому

      it can.
      look up pi zero nexmon
      also look up pwnagotchi. this guy here has a video on it actually

  • @khumu9746
    @khumu9746 8 років тому

    When is there gonna be a another giveaway?

  • @greedsin555
    @greedsin555 8 років тому

    10/10 IGN

  • @Davedarko
    @Davedarko 8 років тому

    1:05 ? 45 degrees? that would be slightly off :p still a nice video :)

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  8 років тому

      davedarko How so?

    • @Crits-Crafts
      @Crits-Crafts 8 років тому +1

      -should be 90 degrees not 45 ;)-
      ignore that, i was working from the wrong side of the resistor...
      so no, I agree, about 45 degrees is right

  • @alphayun7401
    @alphayun7401 7 років тому

    will this work on pi 3?

  • @P0wnYou1
    @P0wnYou1 8 років тому

    Where can you find places to buy pi zero W's? Is there a similar site to whereismypizero.com for this model?

  • @nilz23
    @nilz23 4 роки тому

    Wow, you should never be allowed to solder ever again.

  • @quaxk
    @quaxk 8 років тому

    kinda defeat the purpose of the zero compactness...

  • @ZetkoCZ60
    @ZetkoCZ60 8 років тому

    I think if you will buy 3D printer and make videos from it, it will bring you more viewers and it will help you with some projects :D

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  8 років тому +1

      Funny you mention that, I got one last week.

    • @ZetkoCZ60
      @ZetkoCZ60 8 років тому

      Am I fortune teller ? xD

    • @psychobotLoL
      @psychobotLoL 7 років тому

      more like cpt handsight

  • @Randy-nb6fw
    @Randy-nb6fw 14 днів тому

    antenna cable is way too long

  • @keefebaby
    @keefebaby 5 років тому

    Slightly messy??

  • @KadenCartwright
    @KadenCartwright 6 років тому

    Just get some flux. Your life will be SO much easier

  • @spades898
    @spades898 6 років тому

    WTF are you soldering at 400 C, use good 60/40 Pb and Ti solder at 275-320 C... *Only novice use lead free solder*

  • @JO-sg7wk
    @JO-sg7wk 5 років тому

    use flux !

  • @MrErikoify
    @MrErikoify 8 років тому +1

  • @nickisacebeans
    @nickisacebeans 6 років тому +1

    Wow, what a mess! hahaha

  • @psk786
    @psk786 7 років тому

    a very ugly soldering!