.308 ARMOR PIERCING Bullets - TESTED!
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Randy sent us this unique vintage stuff to launch a couple YEARS ago and we finally had the chance to try it out. What will AP do, and what is its limits?
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Every tracer I have seen begins to glow as soon as it leaves the barrel. (not at 50 yards or 100 yards etc.) Like here imgur.com/a/HWTP278
cant argue with that logic
Milspec tracers light at 100 yards so as not to give away the shooters position, do your research next time
Would like to see you guys do a penetration test with the .375 H&H Magnum. I know it's not a popular caliber in America but it is in Africa and very few (if any) penetration vids done on it.
The copper ingot looked like 2 - ³/⁸" to me
I would definitely say those were incendiary rounds, tracers start burning from inside the barrel because of the powder igniting the "pyrotechnics" in the tracer round and not on impact like in the video
If those are M25 tracers, they won't ignite until 100 yds down range - the idea was for the tracer to indicate closeness to the target and not indicate where the shooter is.
M25 would be .30-06
well, the principle of not giving away the shooter goes for all tracers, I guess?
White tip fire starter
Well i was thinking the same thing, they were shooting them too close to the target, the ignition time was never reached
Thank you!
Tracer rounds don't usually ignite until the 70 yard range
Agreed... shot many of these out of M240B machine guns.
Jason Jacques yes , to protect the bore and not give away Your specific position
between 50 and 75 is the norm and all they had to do was read the spec sheet found through google .maybe before they shoot next time they will do some research and look as if they have a clue as to what they are doing
@@thomasnakagema7239 complain a little more about the free video
Thomas Nakagema That is evidence that these guys are rather ignorant about ordnance
"This is a two pounds hammer, which is worth 17 dollars in the UK" - totally lost it :-D
@Michael Tighe yep ever one knows the best rockets, planes, cars, tanks, guns, CPUs, medical equipment ect is made in the UK.. do they make any thing there?? Other than baby boys named Muhammad
@Joe Ç r/woooosh
Its just an idiotic yank attempt at sarcasm and humour, sorry about using the word idiotic but its the best way to describe these unintelligent colonials
@@jimdevlin2138 You don't get to call any country's population "idiots" after the Brexit debacle.
@AvengeVoltaire Because the hammer weighs 2.5 pounds, which is the assumed thing he is talking about, but he swerves and makes a joke about pound to dollar conversion.
2:01 Thank you officer Gregg, for upholding the U.S. Constitution and our Bill of Rights. Great video guys.
Oh Danny, you were always a joy to see on the channel. Hope you’re teaching the things you learned at the range in the sky buddy. ❤️
Age can affect a tracer but some tracers do have a time/range of activation
they need a little time to heat up
Yeah, should tried shooting at a target from at least 100 yards away.
Most NATO 7.62 tracer ammo is designed to 'light up' at >100m. This is to stop the tracers from showing your exact position.
and possibly shoot at dusk whilst still seeing the treeline.
Tracers are DESIGNED so they don't illuminate right from the muzzle. It's bad enough tracers work both ways but having it go right to the point of aim for the enemy is a terrible idea.
Those AP rounds don’t play around.
They were beasts!
TAOFLEDERMAUS they are*
TAOFLEDERMAUS it takes tracers around 50 yards to ignite. The drag of the air heats up the bullets and ignites the tracer compound. :)
No kidding. They were very impressive.
nope
Undocumented rifle in a sactuary safe. Genius!
I'm french so I'm not that good in english and I don't get what he means, someone to explain to me please?
@@Fractalcat-Guilty He's joking about undocumented immigrants being protected by sanctuary cities
He's basically saying screw the unconstitutional laws of the government.
@@Fractalcat-Guilty we have "sanctuary" states/cities which decide they are not going to obey laws regarding immigration, they "turn a blind eye" to illegal aliens. the joke is that he has an illegal gun in a "sanctuary safe," safe as in the thing you put valuables in
@@Fractalcat-Guilty I'm glad you asked. I should have figured it out, being American and all :P
When I shoot tracers it usually takes more distance for them to get burning. In my experiences anyway
@@TallCanDan02cringe
God Bless Danny … immortalized thanks to this channel. Feels like family …. watching old family movies.
I love Outside of California! It's the best place to be, MUCH better than Inside California!
You're generalising there, Wiggles. Denmark (happiest place on Earth), Iceland (loads of guns and almost no murders), DC (almost no guns but a huge murder rate), England (we can have guns but they rust), the Tarn Gorge (verrrrry pretty plus French food and French girls), Oberbergtal (verrrrry pretty plus an Austrian lady like Daisy Duke if she could bench-press 220 lb), El Salvador (save us) and Honduras (beyond Salvation) are all Outside California.
If you're willing to go the pa luty route, CA is still awesome- nobody looks for a gun factory say 3Ø minutes outside downtown San Fran. 😎
Theyre trying to make az california now smh
@@Sableagle England you can just get guns anyway legal or not you can get fully automatic 7.62x39 ak47s which are highly restricted in the USA our gun laws are a shamble we have criminals as young as ten walking around with Mac 10s that's all I have to say
Outside of California beautiful, inside California is just like the Kamala Harris, a beautiful blowhard
Jeff: oh,god, they're gonna want to see it shot lengthwise.
Danny: Hold my Metamucil
I'm just glad that all of you were able to escape Californistan. These brave men tasted freedom, even if it was only for a day. Good to see the whole crew, together.
Love the FAL, used in the Reserves, long ago,
the kick gives incentive to save ammo, hence you tend to shoot straighter
Been going back and watching old videos just to see more of Danny. Miss you brother. RIP
Got an awesome idea: Line up various paint cans in front of a large canvas (or multiples smaller canvas) and blast away. Then sell the resulting art.
I know I'd buy to support the channel!
It might end up in the Getty Museum.
Can't be worse than the crap in the Tate Modern, anyway.
Bubble someone did this not.long ago....I can't remember who. Shit.
Bubble state of California might buy it. They bought a damn boulder.
Don't think that's legal in commifornia because.... "It is known to the State of Kalifornia that some ingredients in spray paint may cause cancer." But if you did that in Nevada, its cancer free. I'll take two!
As you can clearly see...the bowling ball moves BACK...AND TO THE LEFT.
BACK...AND TO THE LEFT.
BACK...AND TO THE nevermind...
For your safety wear a helment and a semen proof vest!
Joe Morrell PROBABLY OVER A LOT OF PEOPLE'S HEAD. ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER GENERATION.
Dealy Plaza?
...When is the American gladiator comes on..?
I hear some pidgeons going "Coup! Coup!"
Had to come to America to shoot this one huh?
Ui
The reasons tracers don't light immediately is to not give away your position quite as badly in combat.
You're shooting too close for the tracers. They need a little distance before they light up.
Edit: Have you done 12 ga. bird bombs? They're like an M80 stuffed into the shell with a fuse that makes it explode around 35 yards away. Fun items. I might have a few if you haven't demo'd them yet.
Why not just use birdshot? Less expensive, probably less prone to defects, can be used at ranges other than 35 yards... It sounds like a cool idea, but I've seen too many useless or defective novelty 12 gauge cartridges not to be sceptical.
Sounds like something I'd be a little scared to shoot. Also sounds like even if it worked right it'd send shot back at you at some point.
Brian Scott they are agriculture based rounds. They are used to scare birds out of a farmer’s orchard. They don’t contain shot, they are not intended to kill birds.
I've always heard it called scare shot. One hell of an explosive inside them.
@@bennettrogers7921 There are also "bird bombs" that look like the old M-80's that utilize a starter pistol looking device. These use a .22 blank to propel and ignite the "bird bomb" about 50 to 75 feet. These are much more powerful than the 12ga bird bombs. At least they were 20 years ago.
Tracers require typically 100yds to light off.
Awesome video and welcome to Wisconsin! Great state. Very desert like.
Brian Streufert
We loved Wisconsin! The drive sucked but we were home by the following Tuesday. 🤔
Brian is correct about the tracers. Loved the video!
"Sanctuary safe" pure awesomeness. OG is the man
Thanks Rabbit! 😎👍
Soon Chuck. Soon.
Chuck Finley the mere thought of OG with a tramp stamp of Danny.......gave me space aids
Chuck Finley they definitely have a good chemistry
Doesn't take much to impress you does it...
The stuff OG says makes me smirk and shake my head.
I'm over here giggling like Lee Harvey
Yep, his dinner will be in the dog again . . .
This round has always been my favorite it’s like a magic bullet it can go thru most things
do you know where i can buy some
went through that ar500 steel like it was ar500 butter
Well then......I guess my 30-06 black tips will have no problem punching a hole in a level IV plate.
@@cryhavoc9748 black tip 30-06 goes right on through most things like its butter!
@@cryhavoc9748 level 4 is literally rated for 30-06 AP
@@Halal_Dan for one hit though 🤷🏻♂️
@@sorenottomybuddy Most ceramic plates from reputable manufacturers will take multiple rounds of black tip even when they're not required to.
I’m happy to see that even california officers understand the California gun laws are a joke. We have room for all of you out here in Texas if you ever feel like you don’t want to hide your passion:)
Agreed
When Tx is full come on over to Kentucky there's plenty of room for all gun lovers, even the lefties lol. plus there are backstops literally everywhere cause all the hills n hollers.
@@AxeNutt94
too many people here already... but your gun oks your admission
+HotRodRay lol which gun I have a shit load?
@Richard Ensey Oaths to the constitution are a joke. We threw out the constitution a long long time ago. Also, cops don't seem to realize that even though practically all laws are retarded and immoral, they'll still happily live with a career to enforce those laws, all the while the 'officials' in government make their living by violating law.
"This is an undocumented rifle and we run a sanctuary safe"... LMFAO!!!
Only Patrons get to see the OG's Danny Tramp Stamp tattoo.
C Maugel i Just threw up in my mouth a little
1:58
And 2 years later, the same statement applies. Here's to making California a free state once again. o7 Taofladerfolks
I used to manufacture BR laminate of glass and polycarbonate. The level of protection depends on the expected threat. For military vehicles like the MRAP, we used nine layers of half inch, low iron glass with quarter inch hardened glass strike face and three quarters of an inch of polycarbonate innermost as a spall shield. This would stop .50AP. The standard was three rounds inside a 12 inch triangle with no penetration. Three round impact resistance should allow time to escape the kill box. We made THOUSANDS of them.
.308 stood no chance
I'm not sure if there are different kinds of tracers, but the ones I've used (conscript in the Swedish army) were just ordinary rounds with a small gob of phosphor stuck to the bottom of the bullet. It takes a little while before the phosphor starts reacting with the oxygen in the air, so it only ignites after travelling a few (10 or so) meters. Good thing too, cleaning the machine gun would've been even more of a b-tch with burnt phosphor all over it. :D
So yeah, it's basically like a tiny tiny incendiary round.
The tracer compound is ignited by the powder charge. It has it's own oxidizer and doesn't need exposure to the air.
Would make a lot more sense, but this was back in the 90s - and as part of the conscript army we were always training with the cheapest stuff available (i.e. old, leftover ammo). Heck, my brother that's only 6 years my elder was issued a Kpist -45 ("Swedish K").
I did some machine gun shooting with tracers back in -96 in the FDF and they pretty much lit up at the muzzle but the compound was in the tip of the bullet.. Also they did give a bit of a flash when impacting on steel as the compound was splattered all over.. My enlightened guess here is that the tracers boys had here sort of ignited on the kinetic energy of the impact.. The coolest thing however was the 12,7x109 AA-machinegun spitting 800rpm belt full of tracers and incendiery.. Shit got on fire and dirt and splinters were flying all over.. Especially vivid was to see tracers ricocheting and flying half a mile arcs and incendiery igniting 100 meters up in the air after skimming from shit.. :D
BILL SCHNEIDER I have some Russian green tracers in 54r. I forget what compound it uses. I also read that the Japanese machine gun tracers were light blue.
@@StPaul76, it is highly unlikely (as in impossible) to have a tracer round constructed with the tracer element in the tip.
How would you see it during flight and how would it be ignited and burned??
I think what you meant to infer is that your rounds were of an "incendiary" construction and, Yes, the incendiary material (powdered zirconium crystals usually) was in the forward-most part of the interior of the outer jacket.
Upon impact with any "hard" target, the internal, dense, steel or tungsten penetrator (IF also an AP round) would obviously continue forward until it crushed the zirconium crystals, causing intense (!!) heat and, thus, the "flash" which can be quite pronounced.
Depending on the kind of ordinance (but usually .50 caliber and above due to construction complexity and lack of interior real estate) rounds can include:
Armor Piercing,
Incendiary,
Tracer or a combination of some/all of these.
When assembled and the projo tip painted, the nomenclature for the round would be labeled as:
API-T
(Armor Piercing Incendiary-Tracer)
to denote what it actually was.
Tracers by their very nature are used to show where rounds are falling to ensure good target coverage.
Armor Piercing are designed to defeat (AKA Penetrate) hard or hardened targets up to a given distance, thickness and material construction.
Incendiary are designed to set fire to surrounding materials as well as to cause fuels/oils to burn when exposed to the HOT debris of the burning crystals.
There you go.
We are all more smartened up for the day.
Overnout
aWESOME video great stuff... tracers need several dozen to a hundred yards to really light up
Alaskan Ballistics I was going to comment the same thing but you beat me too it high five ✋
I've noticed they usually ignite between 50-150 meters
Yep
what he said
agree guys, range was way to short but still fun to watch
Sanctuary safe... I love it.
If cities can refuse to enforce immigration laws, can other cities refuse to enforce gun control laws??? Great video as usual Jeff and gang.
Gyppor Yep! It’s happened in places like rural Colorado. The local authorities look the other way.
The entire state of Kansas is a sanctuary state for guns. They said 5 or so years ago no new gun laws would be enforced and any fed who tried would be hit with every charge possible
Of course, knowing the state of CA they'd crack down on any city that tried to defy their criminally stupid (and illegal) gun laws. They've been threatening people with fines (at least) if they cooperated with ICE and/or reported illegal immigrants. So given that, hey'd probably have no problem with threatening to defund any city that tried to ignore CA gun laws.
That's awesome!
Gyppor In Redding, California the local law enforcement claimed that the newest gun laws were unenforceable and will not be pursued. I heard police (in person) claiming that they wouldn’t even enforce the old laws pertaining to mag size and bullet buttons due to the endless pursuit of a true gun ban
"Our governor gets to pick and choose what laws he likes to abide by, so today we get to pick and choose what laws we like to abide by"
I would love nothing more than to be in the courtroom to hear you say that to the judge. I don't think you'd like the response, but from my point of view it would be hilarious! loool
Look man. Just cause your in the boot licking business doesnt mean everyone else is.
Just because those "in charge" say something, does not make that something the right thing.
Have you seen the “you sunk my battle ship targets”? How’s about taking the show to an indoor range and showing the good folks what that’s all about? I would have never went to one if my buddy hadn’t of taken me. Great show fellas
The 51st State is named "Not California."
Somebody got it!
I love seeing O.G taking a piss on the illegal laws you have there.
Most LEO's feel the same way
I am very happy to hear that, i hope your country can ride that wave of reasonable sanity you have right now and remove these nonsensical limitations. love your content!
It’s not illegal where they are. They’re in Nevadazona, yeah that’s it!
Dang, the whole gang was there, fun!!!
It was like the Partridge Family all over again. But less incest and drugs.
I bought some surplus on gun broker. There were a few black tips in the lot. I didn't realize it.. I shot my AR500 steel. Broke the eye off, hit the target stand, went through the top of the stand the part that holds the steel, through the 2 x 4 and out the other side of the metal holder. It actually ripped the back of the steel holder out. Not much stops those.
When I shoot MILSURP ammo in my 03A3 Springfield, it just loves M2AP cartridges. At 100 yards, if I do my part, it will fire a group you can cover with a quarter. Penetration isn't an issue since it would have to shoot through a quarter mile of hillside to hit something on the other side.
Forgot to add, my bad. This stuff is just as good as match grade MILSURP ammo. Need to use handloads to beat this.
Can do this with dangerous game loads using 220 grain round nose softs. What it does at 100 yards is irrelevant since Alaska's big three (moose, buffalo, Kodiak bear) is best approached to within fifty yards.
The "OG" is a good man! I wouldn't mind building some ghost guns, I mean undocumented rifles lol
You gots to do what you gots to do!
sinformant Not really that difficult and perfectly legal to do. You just need to buy a so-called 80% lower then get a drill press and get to milling out the insides of the receiver. After that it's a simple matter of getting it blued or cerakoted and adding the guts.
Phil Hsueh LOL I know the process. And I am a machinist by trade.
What's an undocumented gun?
Michael McCall home firearms. Examples would be an 80% ar15 lower, glock, 1911. Completely legal to make yourself, depending on your state laws. Federally they are legal, you just can not sell them or give them away to anyone, personal use only.
I was taught to shoot by a retired Marine Corp officer and his buddy, retired Marine Corp Gunny. The bullshit artists would come and brag how far they could shoot and Pat would just say "great, let's go shoot and see". Nobody ever did, he was at that time professional security for some big time clients.
I managed 5 moa at 500 yards with my bedded Winchester 70 varmiter in .308 with handloaded 190 grain Sierra Matchkings and 8x Leopold with target knobs. Only because of Pat the Marine, 18 years ago. Great teacher.
Just like a co-worker who talked about what a great shot he was. I brought in my 1911 with laser trainer in it and after work in the dark parking lot, started taking shots at a telephone pole about 50 feet away. I tried to hand it to him, but he said he refuses to "dry fire" a weapon. F'ing priceless.
Ooh rah !
Did you mean 5 inches at 500 yards? 5 MOA at 500 is 25 inches from point of aim. That's pretty terrible, and wouldn't allow you to even qualify to the Marine Corps iron sight standards.
OG's Danny tramp stamp intro gave me PTSD.
A tracer round on a 308 (7.62) round will activate at 50 yards . I trained as a south african field ranger in the kruger national wildlife park . We used a fn R1 rifle that is chaimberd in 308 (7.62) round i hit at 800yards 10 out of 10 center ( dead center)
I wonder if tracers have an expiration? Maybe they're just old. When I was in US Army basic training, we had a night qualification, where we were shooting our M-16s at full auto (only time we got to do that). Our mags were loaded with every 3rd round being a tracer. The targets were at 50 yards. I still distinctly remember the tracers emitting a straight line of light from the muzzle to the target.
Heyyyy what’s happening here , how come u guys didn’t tell me ? I would have came. For a second I really thought that was me lol, jeff i think it takes way more than 20 yards for the tracer to ignite. Personal experience lol.
Edwin Sarkissian
But, personal experience, you can’t fire a flare gun under water. 😳
We’d LOVE to have you down one day Edwin. Anytime you’re free on a Friday there’s a good chance Jeff will have cameras rolling. Bring the Cabron too!
Officer Gregg ok well let me know we might come by and film with u guys . It will be fun. I’ll bring bunch of flare guns and we can shoot in the air lol. And see how long it takes for it to hit back down first person to run is the looser
@@EdwinSarkissian Roman candle fights... With flare guns. Couldn't possibly have any ill consequences!
I would have backed up TWICE or more the distance . splatter and shrapnel are dangerous.
Edwin is quite correct you need a 100 yards distance before that tracer round will ignite or at least the rounds we used in the military operations worked in that manner.
You were too close for the tracers to work
Every tracer I've seen is burning when it leaves the barrel
imgur.com/a/HWTP278
TAOFLEDERMAUS depends on the ammo some can take up to 100yrds to ignite but cool video as always
It depends on the purpose of the tracer. If it is an "over head training" tracer then it is likely to be seen immediately after exiting the muzzle. If it is a tactical round, then the subigniter and igniter chain will burn without significant signature delaying initiation of the illuminating grain until it is downrange. If it is a "dim" tracer then it can't be seen at all without light amplification. If it is an IR tracer, then it can't be seen without an IR imager.
It depends on when the rounds were manufactured, who made them, and how they are marked.
I always laugh when I see the "youtube analysts" criticizing the accuracy of you guys. It is a dead giveaway on someone who has extremely limited experience shooting a real gun. It has been quite a few years but I got qualified for both marksman and sharpshooter badges on various weapons when I was in the military. I am all too aware how difficult some of the shots you guys are shooting. Nothing but absolute respect for "OG" and Danny on controlling some of the absolutely crazy rounds you guys shoot.
Thank you sir. There will always be Fortnight special operators who know how to shoot better than those of us who run these guns daily to protect our lives.
Oh they are indeed "special".
The shots are fine, im just wondering why they know so little. Tracer rounds take a little ways before lighting up.. and a little "red paint or maybe copper jacket" no shit its jacket.
@@OGsDangerShow That guy's channel is nothing but him playing video games. When someone says shit like "it's been a few years... sharpshooter... military..." they're full of shit. You two can keep on 69-ing each other about Internet criticism and play it off like shooting at 20 yards with a rifle is difficult. The reality is that shooting at 20 yards is that you're shooting for the camera and not the practicality of the round. Anyone familiar with tracers knows ignition and burnout and anyone unfamiliar could search it on the Internet. This channel has always been amateur hour. Entertaining but, what isn't when you're shooting weird shit in slow motion?
@@enigma9789 because they're amateurs with toys.
Later tracers are set up to begin to trace at 25 yards or more. This to hopefully hide the shooters location. Old tracers leave the tracers compound exposed in the back of the bullet. Newer ones have what looks like a large domed primer in the bottom. This may be to protect the primer compound from degrading.
308 core lokt on deer works great to.. Last year he only ran 15 feet.
Every deer I've ever shot dropped dead on the spot. I've shot one deer.
*OG and "Deadeye" Danny* in the same video, that's just awesome!
This video was another fantastic TFM production. Love your content, and thanks for making these fantastic videos available to us. *:)*
thank you!
Thanks for the laughs chaps and thanks for the ammo matt.
Danny, OG, Sergio, Jeff, and the slow-mo camera work we all love. So much awesomeness in one video. Great video guys.
thank you!
No problem Jeff.
Rest in peace, Danny, you are missed by us all.
Tracers are like a strike match, the initial burn isnt much, and takes a split second to fully ignite. With a bullet, it travels so fast the full ignition will not happen until it travels 100 yards, depending on the type of ammo etc. Pistol rounds will travel slower and tracer will light up earlier, a rifle round travels much faster so will travel further.
When a tracer strikes before full ignition, the compound tends to splatter with the bullet breaking apart. If it passes through, it tends to lose the compound from the projectile and it will burn for 10 seconds even if submerged. A hit to a human torso tends to follow that pattern and boil out blood in a foamy goo. The rhodesians called the hit targets floppies, as theyd tend to flop around on the ground until the tracer compound burnt out.
No bullshit, Ive thrown more than a million .308 down range in a single day. I can hit a target with a 240b from 1,000 yards in bad bush and do it all day everyday. I know the sweet spot for them babies, know their drop rates, know their conical dispersion. At 150 yards, typically, depending on barrel length etc, 150 yards is the most stable with the least inertia drop and most likely to penetrate steel plates. Each weapon handles slighrly differently, just takes a few rounds to judge it. It does take some flight time to fully stabilize the.7.62x54 round. They have an odd warble out the barrel and it makes for a messy close range hit. I tend to dial my scopes in at 200 yards, but uave a few setup for longer range. Youd be surprised what stock a ptr g1 can do with a dialed in scope.
You have to make sure it gets back in its safe space. Lol
Tracer rounds can have an incendiary effect like what we saw here.
I set a range on fire with them once. They gave me 20 tracers, 40 ball and 2 magazines and told me we'd be shooting at 100m, 200m and then 300m, so I put all the tracer at the bottom of mag 2. The last shoot was 10 rounds grouping. It was a tight group, and the smoke cloud behind the target got a little bigger after each shot ...
Fortunately, the brush and straw were sparse enough to burn out fast.
"Danny JFK'd that ball" LMAO
That's wrong 😀
The tracer rounds will be hard to see at short range in bright daylight. The phosphorous blob at the tail end of the bullet is indeed ignited when the round is fired, but it takes a short time for it to start burning fully. When impacting, the phosphorous material will continue to burn and it is not uncommon that it detach from the bullet and flies around its own way. Especially at night, you can see this when target shooting and you could think it is the entire bullet ricocheting up and away - but it is just the burning material. Bright red/orange tips are indeed the marker for M62 ammo, 7.62x51 NATO tracers.
The M61 armor piercing rounds are indeed fun plinking rounds and it is amazing what it can penetrate. They are hard hitting little buggers :) They would not have any problems stopping cars and trucks by disabling their engines or penetrating some lightly armored vehicles (M113, Im looking at you!) :)
We recently started using the M80A1 armor piercing, lead free, steel penetrator ball rounds linked in our M240s. Pretty nasty velocities coming out of the 240, and absolutely devastated some of the target points we were firing on.
You guys are brilliant, you would make great gun safety advocates, good luck fan from England
haha thanks!
No need for tracers, the jokes lit the way.
Taofleter ALL STARS do perfection again.
Nothing but the best here. Love yer stuff.
thanks for the nice words!
3:50, I have projectiles that appear to be from 30-06 AP rounds. A 164 grain, flat base, boat tail, FMJ with black tip. I removed the jacket and found a steel penetrator similar to that in the video that was shaped like a boat tail projectile. These appear to be the projectile from the 30-06 M2 AP rounds.
I loaded some into 7.62mm cartridge cases with a moderate load of powder for the projectile weight. Shot AR 500 metal at 200 yards with them in the day time. Result was very big, bright, flash of sparks. The AR 500 plates only had the paint knocked off with no apparent damage to the AR 500 1/4" plate. I do not know what the bullet velocity was.
One day I might load more of these with a maximum recommended powder charge, per my Hornaday reloading manual. Especially since I now have the Garmin chronograph so I can measure bullet speed.
I love the .308 so many options for ammo!
Me too got an Armalite AR-10 it's my favorite gun and like you said very available and good variety being a military round
I promised myself long ago that I would be " non California compliant " , so far, so good ! 😊
Would be great to have a few hundred of those AP rounds, a LARGE assortment of materials to test and a full day to do it........... you know....... for science ! 😊 👍
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍 👍
If your pistol grip extends below your butt, you're not CaliCompli ... so be sure to sleep on your back if you ever visit.
For myself, I'd like to take a 16" AR15, an Enfield Competition Rifle (25.4" barrel bullpup AR180) a lot of magazines and ammunition and some building materials and tools out into the desert somewhere miles from anybody, set up a pair of 24' tall, 8' wide 0.5" plywood walls with an aiming mark on each near the top and shoot 10 rounds ball and 10 rounds tracer at one with each rifle from 100m, 200m, 300m, 400m, 500m, 600m, 700m and 800m to see how the group sizes compare, whether the two types become two separate groups and how much more spread there is after the bullets go sub-sonic, then pull back to 900m, 1000m, 1100m and so on and keep hitting them from as far back as I could to see just how far back I have to be before they won't go through.
If you do some research, you can buy "pulled down AP AND Tracer projo's to load for yourself.
Google is your friend. 😉
Hey you guys are awesome you should make a video where you have a 15$ budget at like Walmart our other stores and see what’s the best. Thank you guys
We barely have a $10 budget, and most of that goes to gas!
TAOFLEDERMAUS is there a way I can donate money to you guys ?
TAOFLEDERMAUS is there a way I can donate money to you guys ?
Phillip B patreon
Phillip B or send to me and I will do my best to make sure some of the money gets to them
I was wondering how you got the gun and bullets and I was so glad you explained it early! Welcome to free country ;)
Riiiiiiiight. Surely we weren’t in California. 🤔
Yeah. I was like "laws didn't change back to be reasonable did they?" I thought I missed an update :)
Tracers do not light until the have traveled about a hundred yards. If they did they would give up your position. There is a copper disk in the back of a tracer bullet that is heated on firing and takes just an instant to light the trace compound.
Tracers usually don't light just out of the barrel. We were taught in the military that tracers burn started on firing but bullet was moving so fast that you could not see burn until way out of the barrel, 20 to 50 meters. My own experience is 10-15 meters with 5.56. Love your channel.
og is a straight badass
With an emphasis on the “straight” part.
😎👍
Officer Gregg that's not what "she" said.
"This was a £2 hammer which is worth $17 in the UK."
Legit.
You shore you are from the UK.. Read what you have written does not make sense..
You watched the video, right?
I got you now. Just sounded funny that all..... 😂
Thank you OG for taking your oath seriously to up hold the Constitution.
Rob Goins
Until my last day.
@@OGsDangerShow So on your last day are you going to throw a massive party and have a work free drug place?
Peter Carlson, sounds awesome!
I got all warm and fuzzy at the pickin and choosin laws
@@realblakrawb I bet officer gregg gets warm and fuzzy with levies and replevins.
Just revisiting some of the back log.
I believe Red tipped from the U.K are actually incendiary.
When I was in the Marine Corps back in the 60's Tracers rounds that we had, had a orange tip like the AP have a black tip.
Agree, black tip ball ammo. orange red tracer. But we are old guys so maybe things have changed.
@@yoteoboth8449, nope.
Bare copper tip is Ball ammo.
Orange tip is Tracer.
Black tip is Armor Piercing.
And in larger calibers (.50bmg for example) Armor Piercing Incendiary Tracers are Silver over Red.
Orange black green blue diff colors diff jobs when I was in USN
You guys seem like a great bunch to hang out with, thanks for taking us along!
Yeah he's pretty cool for a cop lol!
A Danny tramp stamp? OG, I worry about you sometimes
You know you’re looking into it at the local tat shop right now.
Danny has one of himself as well. 😳
Brad Yelich are you this boring in real life as well?
Awesome & interesting vid. Something completely different ! Shame that O.G. couldn´t get his finger thru them .308 holes :-) I Was hoping that the AP-slug would do him the favor !! :-) Best regards, liked and thanks for the vid !!
Thanks! 😎👍
I'm no expert on ammo, but I knew that Pearson round was going through that copper like hot butter! It's been 30yrs so ammo was fresher, and I was using a ww1 Springfield, but as a teenager I prob shot 40-60rds of those through everything from old straight 6 cast iron engine blocks telephone polls.. my grandpa had a legit military arsenal and there was never any shortage of ammo.. Even those Red tip tracers (always on new yrs and the 4th July) those tracers basically had miniature road flares in the ass end... I shot one through the woods at night and saw so many ricochets I thought the round was coming back to me... I did manage to set the woods on fire, but from then on ive been nervous to go into the woods during deer season! Great video!
In my youth, my dad had a white Prinz, (not sure I spelled it right). This was in the late 60s, early 70s. We had to push start it because he couldn't figure out how to fix it. It also wouldn't shift into 3rd. We got it once. That little car could really move. Sorry just surprised to hear about such an obscure car. Dig your videos.
All the TaoFledermaus action men in one location, collect them all!
Always a lot of fun watching your channel!
thanks Paul!
Those are pretty cool. I wish I could find some.
And omg, OG is killing it in the intro.
leif52pickup how is your comment from 21 hours ago if the video was uploaded 2 hours ago? (From when o wrote this comment)
leif52pickup i*
Shrade, patrons often get to see the videos a little early.
leif52pickup ohh I see
If youre wondering why those tracer rounds didnt go off, its because they need to travel a certain distance before they "fire off" Generally around 50-75 meters is where they light up.
There’s a myth busters episode where they’re trying to shoot a gas tank to set fire to a vehicle like Hollywood does in every other movie, and nothing would work. They even tried tracer rounds and nothing was happening. Then they found out that they had to shoot a target at like 150+ yards before the tracers would light up and glow. This might be the reason why y’all weren’t seeing the tracers glow. Great video though.
With the very random ballistics you are dealing with shooting all this randomness, I say everyone is a very good shot. I am surprised at some of the hits you fellows can make with rounds that are hard to predict.
thank you Jesse!
Jesse Sisolack
I wish everyone would take this into consideration. Thank you Jesse 👍🏻👍🏻. 🇺🇸😎
Not in California?! This is clearly some sort of Taofledermaus imposter
Just pretend it was any ol’ state...
+Officer Gregg
So we can pretend it was liquid, gas or plasma?
l wilton, I can say with some authority on the topic that’s not true. Ammo can be laying next to the gun but can’t be “attached” to the gun per CA Penal Code. I recommend students don’t let it touch the gun just to be safe. I’ve never heard of the six foot thing. F&G and CHP operate in vastly different environments my friend.
In the UK, it's a firearms offence to "cause interruption to any person" with the sound of an air gun (that isn't legally a firearm) being discharged *within 50 feet of the centre line of a highway* or to have a loaded air gun on a road without due cause. This creates the silly situation that I can legally shoot from the private woodland by the stream towards the road but not from the road towards the private woodland across the stream ... and yes, we do have "four lanes and a hard shoulder in each direction" highways here and they are more than 100 feet wide.
"whats the latest game?"
"fourth night"
A different weapon type. Thanks for the show and tell Gentlemen 🏴👌🏼👍🏻🇺🇸
Officer Greg should think about doing some stand-up. I really enjoyed his comments.
FYI, an ad played at about 14:15 in the video.
amazing!
TAOFLEDERMAUS I see it too.
0:38
You're outside in California? damn I thought you were inside a large building!
I know I am trolling, but I've watched every single video you've made for the past three years. It's fun and entertaining to watch you guys blow things up, and it's like I do it vicariously through you
Thanks! Some people say it looks exactly like the same place Danny and I shoot, but... lol
funny, i thought you were out in international waters.
"Our governor gets to decide what laws he wants to obey" -- and they said this before 2020!!
Man the quick tongue-in-cheek jokes always crack me up
Rest In Peace Danny......We love and miss you!!😔 Always missed, never forgoten.
Okay, I'm going to buy one of your t-shirts because of the sanctuary safe comment and the not Dick's bucket
lol thanks!
Sanctuary safe FRW
"JFK'd that bowling ball" too soon man! too soon!
I think I have between 200-500 rounds of Lake City Arsenal black tipped 30-06 date stamp 1943, loose. Once had 1500 rnds but lots of punching holes in paper later, Never had a misfire. You all want? I'm currently in Amarillo (I RV full time). All the bullets could be pulled the brass cleaned and reloaded, reliably punch holes in 1" plate at 100 yards.