Yup there seems to be a ton of new collectors that think buying everything Pokémon is like printing money. The reality is hype dies down and these cards that have 300% gains in a month is unnatural growth. Not sustainable but people keep repeating this cycle and never learn.
How hasn’t there been extreme growth either way since 2020. You and twice baked Jake should just sell all your cards and wait for the prices to drop again lol😂
I feel like hype was up during the panini - people had a little extra money, they needed a good dopamine hit, collectibles are a luxury, and if people don’t have extra money, they (generally) won’t pay big prices.
You have to have the knowledge and buy the popular pokemon. You don't lose unless you buy on release. People thought moonbreon was high at $850 and look at it now
I ended up making a hard decision recently and ended up selling my PSA 10 Moonbreon, all of my gold cards from Crown Zenith, and my Mew Vmax alt art. Got $2,400 cash for it. Decided to cash out due to personal finances, the Umbreon wasn't exactly the proudest piece to my collection anyway, since I initially bought it with money I didn't have at the time. I was always so mad that I could never pull it myself and gave into fomo. And honestly I've slowly been feeling burnt out by the hobby ever since products have been so hard to come by. At the end of the day, we obviously have to remind ourselves that collecting is a non-essential luxury that not everyone can afford.😅
Ain't no shame. I don't plan on leaving the hobby, but because of the scarcity of product, it made me really look at my collection and now I'm selling everything that I don't need to have. Either use the money for something else or save it once the bubble pops and the market cools off again.
@ Yeah, during the first bubble, something switched and everybody wanted to collect sealed. But as vetarans, over the years you quickly learn that the cards appreciate just as much too. AND IT SAVES A LOT MORE SPACE. That is my main reason for selling my sealed (maybe a month or two too early admittedly, but I still made a killing).
My friend who hasn’t collected since the 4th grade jumped into Pokémon last week and wanted to pay resell for the new hyped set and kept saying “I don’t wanna miss out everytime I look the price keeps going up” it’s legit just a bunch of resellers putting fomo and newbies having FOMO
Just copped the stained glass M&Z&A in a CGC Black Label for $110 on WhatNot. I don’t care if the market crashes again. It’s gorgeous and staying in the PC.
I've been collecting for almost 4 years now & have only ever sold bulk. I buy cheap promos, Stamped cards, cheap Japanese cards and some sealed product when i see it on sale. Probably the most I spend on single cards is about $20, never graded. I think every card I own now is up on what I paid for it, I just see it as a savings scheme & fully expect it to drop by at least 30-40% in the coming years but I cant see it going lower than what I paid. Gotta fight the FOMO once the prices get crazy & find the cheap cards ✌🏼✌🏼💗💗
@@Jason-rq1gw it’s all personal preference tbh if you’re aware of the risks when purchasing vintage, same for single packs. There is a ton of Information out there. Inform yourself and make the plays you need to make too many people relying on Poketubers to tell them what to do, and they know who they’re
Great video, but are there examples of the opposite? I mean, is it more often then not they increase? or decrease with time? I would like that review. thanks again.
I’ve been fortunate and graded 2 evo zards in 10s. I believe it will go back up eventually it’s the classic artwork and it’s very difficult to get a 10
Charizard is old news, ppl stop caring about the 3rd or 4th version of it. If you Going to invest money in a card you will go with the original, not the 4th version of it lol
@ I have the original, base 2, Legendary collection reverse, rocket & Blaine’s charizard all in PSA 9. Also there’s always gonna be a market for every charizard card printed.
Whats your opinion on getting all the full art Mega cards right now especially the more sought out ones like the shiny mega Rayquaza, shiny Primal Kyogre and Groudon? With the new legends game coming out soon I feel like these are going to sky rocket
Hi! Graded card profit margin calculation question…for COGS, how do you determine the cost of the raw card if you pulled the card from a pack yourself? Do you use raw market price when the graded card is sold? Cost of a pack when you pulled the card? Or some other calculation? Just started selling graded cards and I am not sure of how to best calculate profit for cards that I personally pulled (some years ago). Nothing seems very precise as compared to figuring out profit using purchased singles. Thanks! Really enjoy your videos!
For COGS you should use the cost of the packs. Same way a restaurant uses the cost of raw ingredients in cooking. A restaurant doesn't account for the value of the finished meal, same way you shouldn't account for the value of the pulled card in cost.
I love the info jake. This is good for me as a collector I typically wait 2 years after realese to buy any psa 10s. Not that I actually have a huge PC. Keep up the good work bro GB
Yes because people feel they can't miss out, but what he is saying is buy what you enjoy and stop worrying about making a buck because today it's worth this but tomorrow it could be a piece of cardboard that no one wants.
@@baboon_baboon_baboonVery much so because there are two many into it for the quick money and they don't give a shit about the card. So either be a flipper, or a collector who buys because they love the item and don't care about the price going up or down.
Cards normally cost a fortune when new but will decline. Initial sales price is not real value, they ALL drop off and establish a realistic price once the hype dies.
Context of 2020/21 matters. PSA graded cards became a highly desired thing (PSA 10 first ed bulbasaur 30k! 😂), and COVID shut downs slowed PSA down to turn around times of 8-9 months. So getting that rainbow chonkachu in a PSA 10 when the market was booming and supply was bottlenecked rose the price to an insane number. Looking at the chart and the card obviously looks bad now compared to alt arts and SIRs but it was the perfect storm back then.
I remember a couple months at the actual bubble peak in 2021 where a small handful of PSA 10 Evolutions Charizards sold between $5,000 and $6,000. I think your chart was a little later, after the initial crash.
I have an umbreon vmax I pulled when evolving skies first came out and got it graded at a 9.5. Is it worth holding onto? Last thing I want is to hold on and have it be worthless. Definitely subbing love this content
Like i do in the sports card area as well. Dollar bins baby lol. Dollar boxes at the local card store, i have got some amazing art in Pokémon cards lately for a dollar or even 2 for a dollar, and they are beautiful! But i am a collector. I dont care for the money, i just love certain characters, sports players etc. It saves my butt 😂. Lots of money for sure.
Excellent video with examples. I got back into the hobby in early 2021 with shining fates and its wild to see how much some of these cards dropped. Fat rainbow pikachu was a huge chase at that time and its nowhere near its old price these days. Everyone loves to cite supply saying that the supply won't increase but they forget the other side of the equation with demand. As hype for specific cards dies down so will the prices.
I've never been a fan of the rainbow cards. I think if either the background or the Pokemon were to be rainbow, and not both, it might look more interesting.
Never understood the appeal. The same rainbow chase cards from older Sun and Moon sets are worthless in SWSH sets, they were no longer seen as a new exciting art but rather just another rainbow card.
When it was still the Sun and Moon era my grandma would buy me these Pokemon cards for fun and I really didn't know about them that much other than the fact that the rainbow ones were pretty cool😂. Around 2 years ago I realized that one of the cards I had gotten from maybe around ten of these sun and moon packs was a French version of the Lillie card. Unfortunately the card was pretty bad off because my 8-9 year old brain didn't think of protecting the nice looking ones. Anyways, I still got around $200 for the card so I can't say I'm unhappy.
Spot on with the video. You are showing facts. I mean I have some of these cards in 10’s. I am not concerned with the short term cause I personally like the cards I hold and will be a long term hold.
great content as usual, am i the only one though who shudders when hearing ‘the hobby’, something off about the labeling of collecting pokemon cards as ‘the hobby’
Why do you keep talking about bad investments and being “out a lot of money”? I thought this channel was about having fun collecting and buying what you like?
You know, Jake, this is very true. I, at this point, have a PSA 10 Latias & Latios, and I can't help but wonder what to do. The Evolutions Charizard was in that same boat 4 or 5 years ago. It's got me thinking...
Bro the evo charizard is a reprint lmao… psa 10 latias is 10000000% gonna rise in value over the years.. unless pokemon goes extinct which I doubt since the 30 year anniversary is around the corner as well as a new console that’s gonna change pokemon forever… soooo I would def hold onto those tbh. The cards this man is talking about here are weird cards
@bcottify good point - it's an undeniable card, of course. I set out to get 10's on all the Tag Team alts a couple years ago, didnt get too too far. But managed to get the "harder to get ones" soooo that's good.
@ for one it’s a lot more powerful then any Nintendo console has been, which will allow for a smooth seamless open world they’ve been tryna go for.. it’s also the 30th year anniversary and it’s 10th generation.. they have something great in store I feel it.
But this time you have different factors. Illustration rares and pocket tcg are bringing a lot of new people. This hype and fomo was no where near the bubble. Will prices go down, yeah but we first need to see if the next reprint willl be enough to calm down the demand.
The cards used as examples are mostly trainer cards and in the case of the pikachu a rainbow full art card. People now are all about the alternate arts, unless something top alternate arts they probably wont crash
Stained glass and VV pika were massively impacted by the huge amount of reprints Pokemon did, surprised you didn’t mention that for people who weren’t around then
You know I just got rid of all the other Pokemon UA-camrs, because I see them as nothing more than people trying to change the market price by saying this card is going through the roof and then telling people 2 weeks later to sell. I find you to be speaking the truth about the market so I will follow for now.
I don't know whats going atm, but I went to all my local stores where I live here in Australia and EVERY single booster packs have been cleaned out. I have never ever seen this before. Not one Pokemon series from the last year was available. Have ppl really created a new Bubble for 2025? This is wild.
Yeah, I live in the US and every store I go to is completely sold out. I’ve gone several days a week since Prismatic released and literally everything gets picked up
While I agree with the sentiment, I feel like there are many factors you are not taking into consideration that make these cards different than cards like the Moonbreon.
some of the price drops imo are because other languages are coming out with copies of some cards, so anyone who missed the boat on Ultra Prism can get their hands on the Lillie for ~$100 in the s-chinese gift box.
I’m happy I traded loose packs for my Moonbreon. Card show price the week before Christmas was $2100, my total spent on the trade was under $700 for the packs!
I pulled the japanese stained glass birds trio from a booster pack live on twitch and it was one of the coolest things ever. Such a beautiful card and far more desirable in the Japanese version in my opinion.
Well said jake, Ive been seeing cards selling at insane values and can never wrap my head around why so many people are buying inflated cards. I’m proud to say that I picked up the gold Palkia Dialga and Giratina Vstar from crown for 30,33 and 80$ almost a year ago strictly on the fact that I’m subbed to you and others alike. It’s not really ab the money for me but it quickly becomes ab money when a card I want costs 2000 dollars yanno😂
Bird trio was an ETB promo. Lillie was a trainer card. Chonkachu was God-awfully ugly. I do agree with you, but I don't think these are fair comparisons to the Prismatic Evolutions cards. Mind you, Lillie is a really nice card, but the vast majority of Pokemon collectors care very little for trainers. Bird trio is gorgeous, but is most comparable to the Eevee promo (for obvious reasons). I do think the Umbreon is overhyped, but it's nowhere near as ugly as Chonkachu.
This is really just a bunch of factors. Eventually the price of some of the better cards in a set will start to increase in price. They will bottom out when a "true" market value of the card is found. Then supply and demand will take over and have prices will increase. Prices could remain neutral for years or a steady price incline. There could be another frenzy like covid where all cards just skyrocket in value. Its really a simpler form of trading in the stock market and such.
Isn’t the difference with the Umbreon Vmax and these other cards apparent though? 1.) steady and natural growth patterns since 2021. 2.) reputation. That card is known by basically everyone in the hobby. Even relatively new collectors. It’s basically the modern equivalent of the 1999 Charizard. It’s more than just a rare card, it’s been elevated to something more. 3.) eeveelutions are popular, it’s not a new phenomenon, and Umbreon is in the top 3 for sure. 4.) relative rarity. People are not ripping as many packs of ES anymore. Not at 18-23$ each. Umbreon will settle at around 15k PSA 10’s. Is the card due for a correction? Just like this entire Pokemon market; yes. But I doubt it will stay at its corrected price as long as other cards.
seems different for those cards with the raw version, they might have raging bull markets where the price goes crazy but the floor seems to always go higher. I'm talking long term here of course. The Chonkachu released when prices of everything were high, over the past couple of years it had its low and seems to be on the rise again right now. Next bear market & it shouldnt fall as low as it did in 2023>start of 24.
Great video and I hope it helps some folks fight that severe FOMO. Should NEVER be paying triple (or more) MSRP for things like modern ETBs. That is insane. Also buying singles within 2-3 weeks of a set's release...
You can’t have new cards selling for thousands and simultaneously uphold the value of every other card in the market. People want the hottest thing and the money has to come from somewhere.
i try not to focus too much on the value of my cards there are some worth 5 dollars i like more than ones that are 100. I also pull all my cards and never pay over msrp.
Yup there seems to be a ton of new collectors that think buying everything Pokémon is like printing money. The reality is hype dies down and these cards that have 300% gains in a month is unnatural growth. Not sustainable but people keep repeating this cycle and never learn.
How hasn’t there been extreme growth either way since 2020. You and twice baked Jake should just sell all your cards and wait for the prices to drop again lol😂
@@shorty24lugzlmaoooo everyone spits this bullshit but won’t sell their cards. If they aren’t gonna maintain these prices why you holding onto them?😂😂
@@Kcpvvy15too lazy to rebuy. Not everyone is in the hobby to profit. Sometimes it’s just not the right time to sell.
I feel like hype was up during the panini - people had a little extra money, they needed a good dopamine hit, collectibles are a luxury, and if people don’t have extra money, they (generally) won’t pay big prices.
You have to have the knowledge and buy the popular pokemon. You don't lose unless you buy on release. People thought moonbreon was high at $850 and look at it now
Those vstar universe cards are just criminally underrated, beautiful art cards I can’t believe they aren’t worth more
9:28 Jake didn’t have to call all of us out like that
I thought the same thing HAHAHA caught me off guard
Hey hey hey, we’re not poor. We just have less money 😢
I ended up making a hard decision recently and ended up selling my PSA 10 Moonbreon, all of my gold cards from Crown Zenith, and my Mew Vmax alt art. Got $2,400 cash for it. Decided to cash out due to personal finances, the Umbreon wasn't exactly the proudest piece to my collection anyway, since I initially bought it with money I didn't have at the time. I was always so mad that I could never pull it myself and gave into fomo.
And honestly I've slowly been feeling burnt out by the hobby ever since products have been so hard to come by. At the end of the day, we obviously have to remind ourselves that collecting is a non-essential luxury that not everyone can afford.😅
Ain't no shame. I don't plan on leaving the hobby, but because of the scarcity of product, it made me really look at my collection and now I'm selling everything that I don't need to have. Either use the money for something else or save it once the bubble pops and the market cools off again.
Same started selling all my sealed stuff from years ago and have been buying the psa 10s I want for my personal collection
@ Yeah, during the first bubble, something switched and everybody wanted to collect sealed. But as vetarans, over the years you quickly learn that the cards appreciate just as much too. AND IT SAVES A LOT MORE SPACE. That is my main reason for selling my sealed (maybe a month or two too early admittedly, but I still made a killing).
@@irresponsible-cardboard Ah okay. Yeah, I wanted to save for a car anyway, so definitely going to make Umbreon worth the sacrifice lol.
@@irresponsible-cardboard yer the space and ease of storing is a big thing for me to
My friend who hasn’t collected since the 4th grade jumped into Pokémon last week and wanted to pay resell for the new hyped set and kept saying “I don’t wanna miss out everytime I look the price keeps going up” it’s legit just a bunch of resellers putting fomo and newbies having FOMO
More videos like this please! Love hearing you talk about the actual card values and showing graphs.
Graphs and Charts! 🌈🦄 ✨
Mario pikachu chart was missing
Just copped the stained glass M&Z&A in a CGC Black Label for $110 on WhatNot.
I don’t care if the market crashes again. It’s gorgeous and staying in the PC.
Poor like you and I!! Hahahha love it! Low key he’s funny and drops some funny comments ! Love it! 😂
I would love a whole series on what we learned from the Logan Paul pandemic boom
I learned that Logan Paul's expert is a pillock.
great insight ! for people like me who are less than a year into the hobby this is very educational! keep them up!
I'm taking a sit back and wait approach, I cant afford to compete with scalpers but it'll all crash eventually. patience.
The stained glass birbs is my favorite card ever. I bought a PSA 10 for $75 a couple years back. It was my only graded card until recently
I've been collecting for almost 4 years now & have only ever sold bulk. I buy cheap promos, Stamped cards, cheap Japanese cards and some sealed product when i see it on sale.
Probably the most I spend on single cards is about $20, never graded. I think every card I own now is up on what I paid for it, I just see it as a savings scheme & fully expect it to drop by at least 30-40% in the coming years but I cant see it going lower than what I paid. Gotta fight the FOMO once the prices get crazy & find the cheap cards ✌🏼✌🏼💗💗
The trio birds is one of my favs, I would love to have it at that price
Great content to show people it’s not all easy and to not fall for hype and trends
This was super helpful! I would love to see more videos about Pokémon market cycles.
Great reminder that cards/markets don’t go up forever. Many WOTC cards aren’t close to their all-time highs as well
Sooooo keeps it sealed?! 😂
Yeah if you need that outside approval from a a video to keep sealed product then yes buy some and keep it sealed
Yup
@@player1966 except vintage boosters due to them scanners? Or that hasn't taken off yet?
@@Jason-rq1gw it’s all personal preference tbh if you’re aware of the risks when purchasing vintage, same for single packs. There is a ton of Information out there. Inform yourself and make the plays you need to make too many people relying on Poketubers to tell them what to do, and they know who they’re
Doesn't really matter the mew ones are sealed price isn't super high for them
This is how all collectible products work. Look at sports cards, Lego, and Hot Wheels.
Great video, but are there examples of the opposite? I mean, is it more often then not they increase? or decrease with time? I would like that review. thanks again.
I’ve been fortunate and graded 2 evo zards in 10s. I believe it will go back up eventually it’s the classic artwork and it’s very difficult to get a 10
I think the celebrations zard also hurt it, the hobby seems to always have a recency bias until something is “vintage”
Charizard is old news, ppl stop caring about the 3rd or 4th version of it. If you
Going to invest money in a card you will go with the original, not the 4th version of it lol
@@Rob-ln8mq It´s actually the fifth version (Base, Base 2, Legendary Collection, Storm Front). Look at what those cards are worth ; )
@ I have the original, base 2, Legendary collection reverse, rocket & Blaine’s charizard all in PSA 9. Also there’s always gonna be a market for every charizard card printed.
@ Nice, and true. That´s what people dissing sets like Obsidian Flames don´t understand. It´s a Charizard set. It will (probably) do fine.
“Someone who’s poor like you and I…”
Said so matter factly 😂
It’s more of a joking way of saying you don’t have funny money, generational wealth.
@ what?! Are you sure?
9:27 LOLLL
He really said that, meanwhile having a collection worth almost as much as his whole @ ss house.😂
@ ikr
Whats your opinion on getting all the full art Mega cards right now especially the more sought out ones like the shiny mega Rayquaza, shiny Primal Kyogre and Groudon? With the new legends game coming out soon I feel like these are going to sky rocket
Hi! Graded card profit margin calculation question…for COGS, how do you determine the cost of the raw card if you pulled the card from a pack yourself? Do you use raw market price when the graded card is sold? Cost of a pack when you pulled the card? Or some other calculation? Just started selling graded cards and I am not sure of how to best calculate profit for cards that I personally pulled (some years ago). Nothing seems very precise as compared to figuring out profit using purchased singles. Thanks! Really enjoy your videos!
For COGS you should use the cost of the packs. Same way a restaurant uses the cost of raw ingredients in cooking.
A restaurant doesn't account for the value of the finished meal, same way you shouldn't account for the value of the pulled card in cost.
@@TwicebakedJake thank you!
great video jake. In Fomo times, everything spikes up..never a good time to buy
I love the info jake. This is good for me as a collector I typically wait 2 years after realese to buy any psa 10s. Not that I actually have a huge PC. Keep up the good work bro GB
Everytime, you or other UA-camrs mention a cheap card. The price jump up on eBay…
Market manipulation
influencers gonna influence
Because they have 50-100 copies by the time they mention it and we fall for it everytime.
Yes because people feel they can't miss out, but what he is saying is buy what you enjoy and stop worrying about making a buck because today it's worth this but tomorrow it could be a piece of cardboard that no one wants.
@@baboon_baboon_baboonVery much so because there are two many into it for the quick money and they don't give a shit about the card. So either be a flipper, or a collector who buys because they love the item and don't care about the price going up or down.
The bigger idiot theory has me dying 😆
Looking good bro! Excellent video
Great video. Always learn something new from you!
Calling it the Bigger Idiot Theory instead of the Greater Fool Theory is very funny to me
Cards normally cost a fortune when new but will decline. Initial sales price is not real value, they ALL drop off and establish a realistic price once the hype dies.
Interesting take on the current market. Thankyou
Context of 2020/21 matters. PSA graded cards became a highly desired thing (PSA 10 first ed bulbasaur 30k! 😂), and COVID shut downs slowed PSA down to turn around times of 8-9 months. So getting that rainbow chonkachu in a PSA 10 when the market was booming and supply was bottlenecked rose the price to an insane number. Looking at the chart and the card obviously looks bad now compared to alt arts and SIRs but it was the perfect storm back then.
Love these kind of vids! Please do more
lol so you specifically found the 5% of pokemon cards that have lost value ignoring the 95% that have skyrocketed.
Predictions on Gold VSTAR Gods? I specifically want a PSA 10 Giratina to finish the set!
This video really gave me a completely different perspective!
The Charizard XY evolutions is a competitor to base and I feel like people would rather have base
Thanks Jake. Good content
Is there a video for cards you would recommend to new collectors to get that you would if you hit back in after years?
Good video. Would like more of these types of video, where you put on your finance cap and tell us your insights
I remember a couple months at the actual bubble peak in 2021 where a small handful of PSA 10 Evolutions Charizards sold between $5,000 and $6,000. I think your chart was a little later, after the initial crash.
Yeah in the last year it's sold between $1100-$1500
I have an umbreon vmax I pulled when evolving skies first came out and got it graded at a 9.5. Is it worth holding onto? Last thing I want is to hold on and have it be worthless. Definitely subbing love this content
no
So when does the Moonbreon drop? 😅
Jake, how do you feel about the giratina alt art long term?
The xy charizard is an ez 10x in 1 year when the 30th anniversary hits
Great video, really appreciate the twice baked card wisdom
Good to show this side. People will dump as fast as they bought when the market turns
Thanks for the info Jake!
That Lillie spike must have been around that weird waifu phase that happened in the hobby.
Correct sir
Like i do in the sports card area as well. Dollar bins baby lol. Dollar boxes at the local card store, i have got some amazing art in Pokémon cards lately for a dollar or even 2 for a dollar, and they are beautiful! But i am a collector. I dont care for the money, i just love certain characters, sports players etc. It saves my butt 😂. Lots of money for sure.
Excellent video with examples. I got back into the hobby in early 2021 with shining fates and its wild to see how much some of these cards dropped. Fat rainbow pikachu was a huge chase at that time and its nowhere near its old price these days.
Everyone loves to cite supply saying that the supply won't increase but they forget the other side of the equation with demand. As hype for specific cards dies down so will the prices.
what a great video idea. some people think some current values will hold forever. please do more examples!
I've never been a fan of the rainbow cards. I think if either the background or the Pokemon were to be rainbow, and not both, it might look more interesting.
Never understood the appeal. The same rainbow chase cards from older Sun and Moon sets are worthless in SWSH sets, they were no longer seen as a new exciting art but rather just another rainbow card.
i do live your video but you are really the last one i would listen for marketing advice 😂 😂
New to collecting and this is probably gonna help me from making a big mistake, thank you
Great video. We gotta help out the new collectors. We were all there once.
When it was still the Sun and Moon era my grandma would buy me these Pokemon cards for fun and I really didn't know about them that much other than the fact that the rainbow ones were pretty cool😂. Around 2 years ago I realized that one of the cards I had gotten from maybe around ten of these sun and moon packs was a French version of the Lillie card. Unfortunately the card was pretty bad off because my 8-9 year old brain didn't think of protecting the nice looking ones. Anyways, I still got around $200 for the card so I can't say I'm unhappy.
Spot on with the video. You are showing facts. I mean I have some of these cards in 10’s. I am not concerned with the short term cause I personally like the cards I hold and will be a long term hold.
Why does Jake look so dapper 🔥🔥
great content as usual, am i the only one though who shudders when hearing ‘the hobby’, something off about the labeling of collecting pokemon cards as ‘the hobby’
Amazing video!! Giving the people a reality check 👌👌
Why do you keep talking about bad investments and being “out a lot of money”? I thought this channel was about having fun collecting and buying what you like?
Look at his video list. It's an investment channel.
Just wait till it all collapsed to collect.
You know, Jake, this is very true. I, at this point, have a PSA 10 Latias & Latios, and I can't help but wonder what to do. The Evolutions Charizard was in that same boat 4 or 5 years ago. It's got me thinking...
Bro the evo charizard is a reprint lmao… psa 10 latias is 10000000% gonna rise in value over the years.. unless pokemon goes extinct which I doubt since the 30 year anniversary is around the corner as well as a new console that’s gonna change pokemon forever… soooo I would def hold onto those tbh. The cards this man is talking about here are weird cards
Youre saying the switch 2 is going to change pokemon forever? How so? @bcottify
@bcottify good point - it's an undeniable card, of course. I set out to get 10's on all the Tag Team alts a couple years ago, didnt get too too far. But managed to get the "harder to get ones" soooo that's good.
@ for one it’s a lot more powerful then any Nintendo console has been, which will allow for a smooth seamless open world they’ve been tryna go for.. it’s also the 30th year anniversary and it’s 10th generation.. they have something great in store I feel it.
Latios/Latias was a $2000 card for a few years. That's growth hype, not new set hype
But this time you have different factors.
Illustration rares and pocket tcg are bringing a lot of new people.
This hype and fomo was no where near the bubble.
Will prices go down, yeah but we first need to see if the next reprint willl be enough to calm down the demand.
Love your videos Jake!
The cards used as examples are mostly trainer cards and in the case of the pikachu a rainbow full art card. People now are all about the alternate arts, unless something top alternate arts they probably wont crash
Should I sell my Moonbreon? Seems too high.
This has to be said! Thank you
Stained glass and VV pika were massively impacted by the huge amount of reprints Pokemon did, surprised you didn’t mention that for people who weren’t around then
Yeah vivid voltage just went out of print two weeks ago
Stained glass wasn’t printed nearly as much as vivid voltage
Whoever likes that Lillie trainer card. Check their hard drives!
Even Fat Gay Pikachu Card didn't survive. LOL
You know I just got rid of all the other Pokemon UA-camrs, because I see them as nothing more than people trying to change the market price by saying this card is going through the roof and then telling people 2 weeks later to sell. I find you to be speaking the truth about the market so I will follow for now.
Any hidden fates full arts, charizard vmax, evo zards lol there is so many
The cards you showed aren't comparable to the top cards in SW&SH or S&V or even Sun and Moon. You compared Umbreon Vmax to Lillie. Cmon bro.
I love this video, do the leg work for me so I don't have to...thanks jake!
It doesn't tell you much though. All it says is the stained glass isn't cool looking and vivid voltage was available until two weeks ago
@ I love my stained glass
As it should be. No demand, no hype, prices do go down
I don't know whats going atm, but I went to all my local stores where I live here in Australia and EVERY single booster packs have been cleaned out. I have never ever seen this before. Not one Pokemon series from the last year was available. Have ppl really created a new Bubble for 2025? This is wild.
Yeah, I live in the US and every store I go to is completely sold out. I’ve gone several days a week since Prismatic released and literally everything gets picked up
That's how they control the price, by holding the packs and booster
Is it a good time to sell my evolving skies alt art psa 10. Also sun and moon tag team has been climbing
While I agree with the sentiment, I feel like there are many factors you are not taking into consideration that make these cards different than cards like the Moonbreon.
Yeah Prices wre high because it was the release of a set. Moonbreon was $800-$1000 before ES went out of stock
some of the price drops imo are because other languages are coming out with copies of some cards, so anyone who missed the boat on Ultra Prism can get their hands on the Lillie for ~$100 in the s-chinese gift box.
I’m happy I traded loose packs for my Moonbreon. Card show price the week before Christmas was $2100, my total spent on the trade was under $700 for the packs!
I pulled the japanese stained glass birds trio from a booster pack live on twitch and it was one of the coolest things ever. Such a beautiful card and far more desirable in the Japanese version in my opinion.
Well said jake, Ive been seeing cards selling at insane values and can never wrap my head around why so many people are buying inflated cards. I’m proud to say that I picked up the gold Palkia Dialga and Giratina Vstar from crown for 30,33 and 80$ almost a year ago strictly on the fact that I’m subbed to you and others alike. It’s not really ab the money for me but it quickly becomes ab money when a card I want costs 2000 dollars yanno😂
With how many cards there are I just don’t know how to keep track them all and see which ones are having these types of price drops
Bird trio was an ETB promo. Lillie was a trainer card. Chonkachu was God-awfully ugly.
I do agree with you, but I don't think these are fair comparisons to the Prismatic Evolutions cards.
Mind you, Lillie is a really nice card, but the vast majority of Pokemon collectors care very little for trainers. Bird trio is gorgeous, but is most comparable to the Eevee promo (for obvious reasons). I do think the Umbreon is overhyped, but it's nowhere near as ugly as Chonkachu.
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What would you say is going to happen with surging sparks pikachu?
This tends to happen less with raw cards right? There still is volatility of course but it seems less extreme
This is really just a bunch of factors. Eventually the price of some of the better cards in a set will start to increase in price. They will bottom out when a "true" market value of the card is found. Then supply and demand will take over and have prices will increase. Prices could remain neutral for years or a steady price incline. There could be another frenzy like covid where all cards just skyrocket in value. Its really a simpler form of trading in the stock market and such.
Isn’t the difference with the Umbreon Vmax and these other cards apparent though?
1.) steady and natural growth patterns since 2021.
2.) reputation. That card is known by basically everyone in the hobby. Even relatively new collectors. It’s basically the modern equivalent of the 1999 Charizard. It’s more than just a rare card, it’s been elevated to something more.
3.) eeveelutions are popular, it’s not a new phenomenon, and Umbreon is in the top 3 for sure.
4.) relative rarity. People are not ripping as many packs of ES anymore. Not at 18-23$ each. Umbreon will settle at around 15k PSA 10’s.
Is the card due for a correction? Just like this entire Pokemon market; yes.
But I doubt it will stay at its corrected price as long as other cards.
Great video and argument Jake!
seems different for those cards with the raw version, they might have raging bull markets where the price goes crazy but the floor seems to always go higher. I'm talking long term here of course. The Chonkachu released when prices of everything were high, over the past couple of years it had its low and seems to be on the rise again right now. Next bear market & it shouldnt fall as low as it did in 2023>start of 24.
Great video and I hope it helps some folks fight that severe FOMO. Should NEVER be paying triple (or more) MSRP for things like modern ETBs. That is insane. Also buying singles within 2-3 weeks of a set's release...
There is absolutely 0% chance the moonbreon ever goes down in value, awful take.
Are you serious? 😂😂😂
You can’t have new cards selling for thousands and simultaneously uphold the value of every other card in the market. People want the hottest thing and the money has to come from somewhere.
i try not to focus too much on the value of my cards there are some worth 5 dollars i like more than ones that are 100. I also pull all my cards and never pay over msrp.
Great timing on wearing the CGC hat considering they grade counterfeit cards.
I know, I thought it was cute
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